Obama bashing, should Christians participate?

[Hobie]

     Sorry have to disagree with you if you are speaking historically.  I seriously doubt that GOD set Mr. Hitler up, I think most people give Satan credit for that.  As for taking him down;yes  that was GOD'S work, he sent brave men to go and take him out.
 I certainly hope it won't become necessary for GOD to do the same in the case of Mr, Obama.

The Caesers and Roman Empire did more persecution and torture than Hitler and the Nazi, yet Christianity spread and flourished in the stability of the infrastructure during the Pax Romana. Remember the time that Paul used the fact he was a Roman citizen by birth, it shows the power and influence  of the Empire.


Then some may say why and how did the Nazi have a influence in the flow of history, well you can look and clearly see the affect they had on the Jewish diaspora and the creating of the Jewish state, and if you check you will find scripture shows the many times that God remembered and restored them starting with Moses bringing them out of Egypt.

Evil is all around us and will be till the end, yet God still does His work according to His purpose and the plan of salvation that was prepared before any of us including Caeser, Hitler, Castro or Obama were born ....

[Jaime]

I don't see that much of an increase in the vitriol than would be expected toward any Democrat president in light of it's the Republican's turn to be ever increasingly nasty.

Besides I have much more disdain for Harry Reid, a white male than I ever could against Obama. I would think most Republicans would agree. And I imagine there are some racists on the Democrat side that aren't all that thrilled with Obama being in office.

[Hobie]

Hobie, we disagree on many things, but not this one - an emphatic "NO" Christians should not be engaging in bashing President Obama as a person.

We may disagree with his policies, decisions, and positions, but when we engage in personal attacks, we sin.

I'm a conservative, and I seethed through 8 years of paranoid, deranged Bush bashing by liberals - the truth is I wasn't too crazy about him or some of the things he did either, but the invective unleashed against him was just vile.  Conservative Christians, every single one I know, decried this unfair and unseemly treatment of the POTUS.

Then Pres. Obama was elected, and WE began to act just like THEM - it is shameful.

Influenced by a pastor from Nashville named David Foster, I made these 7 "presidential promises" on Inauguration Day:

1. I promise to pray for the President each and every day that God would give him wisdom and favor and that He would protect him from those who are evil.

2. I promise to respect the President because of the fact that he fulfills the role of President of my country, an office worthy of respect.  Though the men who have occupied it have been imperfect, its ideal still abides; a Democracy ruled over not by a King, but by a President elected by the people.

3. I promise to support the President where I can and to reserve judgment over those things I disagree, believing that he just may know more about the subject than I do.

4. I promise to believe the best about the President.  I won’t listen to conspiracy theories and throw him under the bus at the first sign that he may not be doing something the majority of the people agree with.

5. I promise to do my best to be the kind of American worthy of a great President.

6. I promise I will not expect the President to do for me what I should be doing for myself.  I’m glad I don’t live in a Socialist state.  I live in a Democracy driven by Capitalism, the idea that I am personally responsible for my actions.  So I’ll not ask the President to pay my house payment or feed me unless I have a catastrophic disability.  I’m willing to pay my taxes and my fair share and fully take responsibility.

7. I promise to remember that the President is a human being; that he occupies an office that no human can be expected to perform flawlessly.  I’ll try to put myself in his place even though it would be hard to do.

OldDad, Gods truth is unchanging, its mans understanding that evolves as he is drawn to Christ, and the Holy Spirit guides. So I have no doubt we will all come together at the end for those who follow the path to God.

[phoebe]

Should Christians participate? Heck, Christians are driving the irrational hate bus.

Prove it.

[avenger]

What's your definition of "bashing"?

 

[jonmower]

Should Christians participate? Heck, Christians are driving the irrational hate bus.

Prove it.

A good example (in my opinion) is Focus on the Family's hypothetical letter from 2012: link

[phoebe]

Should Christians participate? Heck, Christians are driving the irrational hate bus.

Prove it.

A good example (in my opinion) is Focus on the Family's hypothetical letter from 2012: link

FoF ≠ represent all Christians

Whatever FoF thinks of themselves, they do not represent all of Christendom. There IS no one who represents all of Christendom, except Christ.

I doubt that very many people are going to bother reading 16 pages of FoF drivel. I know I am not going to waste my time reading it.

[kristinaf]

We should not be "bashing", but in my opinion, some of the beliefs that he holds are wrong and unbiblical.  Like, for example, his support of abortion and partial-birth abortion.  I think we can disagree with those beliefs politely, and rebuke him if necessary without bashing him.  We should not be rude or nasty when talking about him.  But there is nothing that says we can't disagree with his unbiblical, anti-Christian beliefs.  The ironic and to me, annoying, thing is that he 'calls himself" a Christian.  How can one be a Christian and yet believe in aborting babies?  I personally don't understand that at all.  But there are some "Christians" who do.  I think they are ...umm...well I have words for them but I'm not going to say them!!! 

Kristina 

[kendra]

We should not be "bashing", but in my opinion, some of the beliefs that he holds are wrong and unbiblical.  Like, for example, his support of abortion and partial-birth abortion.  I think we can disagree with those beliefs politely, and rebuke him if necessary without bashing him.  We should not be rude or nasty when talking about him.  But there is nothing that says we can't disagree with his unbiblical, anti-Christian beliefs.  The ironic and to me, annoying, thing is that he 'calls himself" a Christian.  How can one be a Christian and yet believe in aborting babies?  I personally don't understand that at all.  But there are some "Christians" who do.  I think they are ...umm...well I have words for them but I'm not going to say them!!! 

Kristina 

I completely agree with this post.  Criticism is healthy and not forbidden.  I don't think empty bashing is acceptable or ad hominem attacks are good things.  But, our country was founded on judeo christian ethics and our culture is this way because of Judeo-Christian ethics (and failing because of our abandonment of this).

God loved the Israelites and said that all countries would be judged on how they treated Israel during the End Times.  And, although Obama just said the other day it would not be helpful if the United States was seen by the world as "meddling", he feels free to meddle when it comes to Israel and force them to give away more land. 

I can't help but strongly criticize him. 

You know, my husband said yesterday that all presidents in the past seemed to understand that they were filling a great role-- that they understood they were just men filling a Great Role and understood the magnitude of this role.  Obama, on the other hand, seems to believe he himself is a Great Man who is just filling a role.

[phoebe]

[...all  presidents in the past seemed to understand that they were filling a great role-- that they understood they were just men filling a Great Role and understood the magnitude of this role.  Obama, on the other hand, seems to believe he himself is a Great Man who is just filling a role.

I agree with this.

I will continue criticizing his principles and politics, and will not tolerate being called a racist for that criticism. It is so offensive, it is beyond words.

[Jaime]

[...all  presidents in the past seemed to understand that they were filling a great role-- that they understood they were just men filling a Great Role and understood the magnitude of this role.  Obama, on the other hand, seems to believe he himself is a Great Man who is just filling a role.

I agree with this.

I will continue criticizing his principles and politics, and will not tolerate being called a racist for that criticism. It is so offensive, it is beyond words.

Amen!

[the J Man]

It's amazing that many criticize Obama and say little or nothing about other presidents and world leaders who conspire to bring us into a one world government. The Illuminati controls the government itself. Wolrd leaders, the golbal elite are doing the will of their father the devil, subtly bringing us into a new world order. Even the American dollar bill has symbology of the one world government, yet people scream at Obama?

The Illuminati plotted 9/11, they plotted wars that have happened and the coming third world war that is obviously going to happen soon. They plotted this econimic crash that were headed to. Why do people not speak out against these leaders? They raise our taxes as a way to keep people in financial bondage. That is a way to control people when they are in debt and financial bondage.

They would need order of chaos in order to bring in a one world government. World warfare, poverty, debt and no jobs along with desensitizng people morally, the break down of marriages, and getting the church itself to be lukewarm people who are asleep spiritually. You can see all this going on and it's been going on for years, but people blame Obama? That's ridiculous.

[Hotrod]

Should Christians participate? Heck, Christians are driving the irrational hate bus.

Prove it.

Already sent you a personal messsage with two recent incidents done not by your average citicizen, but GOP officials.

[phoebe]

It's amazing that many criticize Obama and say little or nothing about other presidents and world leaders who conspire to bring us into a one world government. The Illuminati controls the government itself. Wolrd leaders, the golbal elite are doing the will of their father the devil, subtly bringing us into a new world order. Even the American dollar bill has symbology of the one world government, yet people scream at Obama?

The Illuminati plotted 9/11, they plotted wars that have happened and the coming third world war that is obviously going to happen soon. They plotted this econimic crash that were headed to. Why do people not speak out against these leaders? They raise our taxes as a way to keep people in financial bondage. That is a way to control people when they are in debt and financial bondage.

They would need order of chaos in order to bring in a one world government. World warfare, poverty, debt and no jobs along with desensitizng people morally, the break down of marriages, and getting the church itself to be lukewarm people who are asleep spiritually. You can see all this going on and it's been going on for years, but people blame Obama? That's ridiculous.

We didn't vote in those other world leaders, have no say-so over what they do, what they uphold, how they plan to destroy the United States.

Obama IS our choice, our "leader", the one we have say-so over. Obama is SUPPOSED to be on OUR side.

Can't prove it by me.

[phoebe]

Should Christians participate? Heck, Christians are driving the irrational hate bus.

Prove it.

Already sent you a personal messsage with two recent incidents done not by your average citicizen, but GOP officials.

This is so old. Why did you bring it to the front?

(BTW, "staff"/"activists" ≠ "officials")