Polygamy

[fenton]

i cant keep up with the wife i have now..     


two of them 

[MeMyself]

i cant keep up with the wife i have now..     


two of them 

   I know right?  WHO would want all that extra stress, and hassle...just doesn't seem to be worth it. 

[Cally]

i cant keep up with the wife i have now..     


two of them 

   I know right?  WHO would want all that extra stress, and hassle...just doesn't seem to be worth it. 

Well, and that's part of the point. If people just wanted to be sexually immoral, they'd just have a fling--why would they fight to bear the burden of TAKING CARE of another wife?

[fenton]

i cant keep up with the wife i have now..     


two of them 

   I know right?  WHO would want all that extra stress, and hassle...just doesn't seem to be worth it. 

Well, and that's part of the point. If people just wanted to be sexually immoral, they'd just have a fling--why would they fight to bear the burden of TAKING CARE of another wife?

ego's

[JohnDB]

Its the hypocrisy of the situation that bothers me the most.

But most likely it is "the squeaky wheel" syndrome at work here. Activism usually entails jail time for the activists. A Homosexual really has nothing to lose in going to jail. Only the possibility of reward.

A polygamist has everything to lose. His kids & wives to be torn away. Bone of his bones. & flesh of his flesh and with no one to provide for them.

I can see why they have no activists.   

[chosenone]

i cant keep up with the wife i have now..    


two of them  

   I know right?  WHO would want all that extra stress, and hassle...just doesn't seem to be worth it.  

Well, and that's part of the point. If people just wanted to be sexually immoral, they'd just have a fling--why would they fight to bear the burden of TAKING CARE of another wife?

ego's

 you know fenton, I think you are right. The ego of being to say 'look at me, I can get all these women and I have all these kids, aren't I wonderful and attractive, virile and fertile and amazing' I suppose its arrogance and self promotion as well as immorality.A bit like these rich old guys who want the young blond bimbo on their arm to make them feel that they still have 'it', even though they havent got 'it'and everyone knows that its their money that is attracting the gold diggers.

I once spoke to a guy on line who believed in this stuff, and apparently most of the men that he knows who live this way, think they need all these ''wives' because one wife would not be able to satisfy them sexually . What arrogant nonsense. I suppose that's why they need to have all these young girls. Sheesh. Maybe they haven't heard that women are at their sexual peak in their 40's and not in their teens.

[chosenone]

Its the hypocrisy of the situation that bothers me the most.

But most likely it is "the squeaky wheel" syndrome at work here. Activism usually entails jail time for the activists. A Homosexual really has nothing to lose in going to jail. Only the possibility of reward.

A polygamist has everything to lose. His kids & wives to be torn away. Bone of his bones. & flesh of his flesh and with no one to provide for them.

I can see why they have no activists.    

 So why cant the ladies go out to work? If there are a few of them, one can mind the kids while the others get a job. Thats what most wives/mothers have to do today.Three ladies can bring in 2 incomes. More than enough to live on. If we break the law then we must face the consequenses.
Many of the families in the programmes that I have seen about polygamy, all live on welfare anyway, so you guys are all supporting these men in their wrong lifestyle and all of his dozens of kids and single mums.

[chosenone]

i cant keep up with the wife i have now..     


two of them 

  Thats funny.

 I was talking recently to my daughter and her fiance about ths subject of more than one wife. I said to them that if my DH bought another lady home he would still only have one wife, because I would be out the door(or he would!). She said, dont worry mum, you are MORE than enough for him. Cheek!

[Bitter Sweet]

i cant keep up with the wife i have now..     


two of them 

  Thats funny.

 I was talking recently to my daughter and her fiance about ths subject of more than one wife. I said to them that if my DH bought another lady home he would still only have one wife, because I would be out the door(or he would!). She said, dont worry mum, you are MORE than enough for him. Cheek!

Ok, I got a story too. My husband is a truck driver and in the middle of the night, toothless women, aka lizards, knock on his door and ask to come in. He asked if I would mind if he allowed one in (he was jesting), I asked him and what if you get her pregnant? Then you will have to bring her home to live with us and raise the baby. He tried so hard to hold in his laughter, he didn't expect me to say that, but I think the image of a "lizard" living at home with us made it funny to him.

[DaveW]

There is nothing in scripture to prohibit more than one wife. (in either testament) That said, there are certain (rare) conditions where under the Mosaic covenant it was commanded. (levirite marriage - childless death of a brother) But as has been pointed out, it can be seen clearly that it was not God's first choice.

The only prohibition is the requirement for congregational leadership being the "husband of one wife." So a polygynist is prohibited from being an elder (including pastor) or a deacon.

And again you have the issue of obeying the law of the land - which is in the USA - one spouse.   But I do expect that to change.  If gay marriage can go thru, I see nothing stopping multiple/complex marriages.

Do I think that is a good thing? No.

[Debrah]

"2 But because there is so much sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife (NOT WIVES), and each woman should have her own husband (NOT HUSBANDS)" 1 Corth. 7
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Hollywood is trying desensitize us like Cally suggested.  Just about every show I watch has a gay couple, couples living together, couples watching porn, couples who never mention God...

we should not be wasting our time entertaining our minds with such garbage, me included.

It has been the Conservative argument against homosexual marriage, that if it is allowed, then why not polygamy, or how about marrying your dog?  This is what happens when we do not follow Gods ways, but what happens when we follow man's disgusting perverted ways.

Jesus sermon on the mount taught us that much of what was done int the OT, (Moses laws), were created for the people, they were not of God, but now Jesus said did you know you can not follow the ways of Moses, for even divorce under the laws of Moses is not Gods ways but divorce  is only granted if one commits adultry.

God allowed polygamy, some theologians belive for the sake of women, because they were not allowed all the benefits to provide for themselves as men were, man was to care for women, many were thought of as no better than cattle.

When Jesus came Jesus and the Apostles taught the new ways to the church.  We do not live by the old, but the new, the New Covenant, to say God allowed it in the OT, so it must be ok, is not reading scripture correctly.

Renew your minds in Christ.

[DaveW]

I do agree with the desensitizing part.

But I submit that you have an erroneous understanding of the Sermon on the mount.

Notice Jesus said "You have heard it SAID....But I say ...."  He did not say "It is WRITTEN..."

In other words He was dealing with the Oral extensions and not the actual text of the Mosaic covenant.  The commands were right and from God but the intrepretations were not.

And women were NEVER considered property or "cattle" in Jewish society - ever.  While that was true of most of the surrounding cultures, it was NOT true there.

[JohnDB]

Some of you think that the conservative polygamist is all about sex. Nothing could be further from the truth. From what I see it is about being surrounded by family. Ego? No time for one. These guys are so busy caring for the wives and kids that he doesn't even have time for golf or fishing. Much less a dinner at a friend's house.

[musician_for_God]

My wife found a show called "Sister Wives" on netflix.

These people are living out their life on national television.

Granted I can't really understand why the prosecutor came after them. What they were doing that is such a detriment to society. Since homosexuality is legal but a definite sin how is polygamy a punishable crime? Many of the patriarchs practiced it and some had concubines. (Solomon & David)

 

That is one hypocrisy I've noticed.  That is, if one imagines that actual morals, not just societal will, are still a significant influence on the things which are legal and illegal.  I guess one could argue that since gay marriage is still illegal in most states, polygamy is treated no differently.  Just as homosexual fornication is legal and so are polygamous sexual encounters.  But as time goes on, it's more and more of a fantasy to believe that actual morality effects laws, rather than a variety of other factors.  That's way the law is filled with hypocrisy, because it's not based on anything but societal and governmental preferrences, not a clear moral code.

That said, my finances and difficulty dealing with groups of money preclude me from ever needing to consider polygamy's moral foundations!     I wouldn't even qualify in those two most basic of factors, so it's a non-issue to me.

[musician_for_God]

i cant keep up with the wife i have now..     


two of them 

Seriously!!