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The day has come which will make many quite glad.

One of the people many of you regard as being an adversary is going away.

That would be myself.

When I click post on here I will immediately go and delete my membership.

If you are wondering why you will need to ask either mommydi or RB. Both know exactly why.

Have a great life.

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I’m not glad.

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 ??? Having disagreements does not an adversary one make. I hope offenses was not the cause?!?  ::shrug::

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I'm very sad you left, in fact quite upset because you were so lovely. But we have to make difficult decisions based on what we feel is right and go do. I remember being staff in a support forum where many didn't want me leaving, but after thousands of posts I knew the time had come.

Whatever you do, be strong in the Lord, Ginger Rella. Never give up reading the Bible; pray when feeling down and feeling joyful and then pray even more.

May the Lord bless you and keep you; The Lord make his face shine upon you, And be gracious to you; The Lord lift up his countenance upon you, And give you peace.

-Number 6: 24-26

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Noooooooo!!!!!!  ::frown::   ::cryingtears::

This place won't be the same without you, Rella.

At least come back for mid-terms.  ::nodding::



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Rella has not kept her location a secret, so who here lives near her and would like to help her get this done?








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NorrinRadd is in her state but not sure if he could give her what she wants.

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I want the same kick butt take names Rella that was in the political threads. The emotionally vulnerable Rella is not familiar to me.

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Great text there!

Philippians says a lot about rejoicing also.  ::smile::

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Great text there!

Philippians says a lot about rejoicing also.  ::smile::

Philippians is also comfort when you can't sleep like tonight.  ::smile::

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Noooooooo!!!!!!  ::frown::   ::cryingtears::

This place won't be the same without you, Rella.

At least come back for mid-terms.  ::nodding::
I think she needs to get her fanny right back here where she belongs right now. I thought she was a much tougher woman then let anyone's hard speeches cause her to leave, ESPECIALLY SO if she truly believed she was right, why leave? Do not give up, you stop when God stop you, not when you want to stop. When you stop, then your opponents win, even though he may be wrong, and you are right~yet by leaving you truly lose all efforts you have put into the battle.

Let me say this~I'm not 100% sure why she left, she knows more than anyone, I know a little based on what she pm me, but she caught me off guard and really surprised me by up and leaving. Debates will get very heated at times, and if anyone feels uncomfortable with any subject of not fully knowing it, then do not go there and debate those who have the full confidence of what they believe is the truth, especially experience debaters. If anyone gets their feelings hurt very easily, then debating scriptures is not for that person. You must have tuff skin, be able to rule your spirit/tongue; debate with the spirit of meekness considering one's own weakness and slow of heart which we all have by nature; and a true desire to help others to see what you believe is the truth and for them to enjoy the blessedness of being set free from the bondage of false doctrines which every person that has ever lived has been in bondage to accept Christ. When you see Paul asked how did it feel to go from profiting in the Jews' religion to being prisoner of Jesus Christ and suffering for the TRUTH in his religion ! It seems like a paradox, but when one looks into this, they quickly learn that Paul was truly FREEMAN in Christ.

Soldiers do not run away, they stay and fight the battles, come hell and high waters. If God is for us, who can possibly be against us to defeat us. Hirelings flee from battles~so if you read this...get back to your post.
Quote from: Your sister  Reply #4 on: Yesterday at 14:46:49
At least come back for mid-terms.
Not good enough, you have a post to fill.   RB
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Amen Red.

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I am here only to respond to a few people.

I have not come back as the old Ginger Rella as that account was deleted, and according to Grace Centered, that  user name does not exist.

I had to re-register that name but no matter, I only want to respond to a few before I am gone, yet again

Most of the repliers in the theology forum are glad they will not have to put up with me again, simply because by this time, they know it is a lost cause.I will not change my position of when one is saved and forgiven, therefore they consider me to be damned.

Though never specifically stating it as such, much has been said by forum and PM to indicate those thoughts.

That is fine. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs.

Red, you said..."
if she truly believed she was right, why leave? Do not give up, you stop when God stop you, not when you want to stop.

I believe it was God inspired for me to stop. The God of our father's, maker of heaven and earth, who sent His only begotten Son to the Cross to shed His blood for my sins, and that believing on Him has made the way for my salvation.  That God. The one who tells us these things in His Holy Book.

I acknowledge that immersion after one believes is biblical. And should be done as soon after one believes ( for me believing is unwavering faith that Jesus died for MY sins and shed His precious blood for me) when possible.

I know, as in my case, soon is not possible, until you actually come to that understanding.  And then it will only happen when it can.

I fault not only the churches and the clergy who do not teach this, but also every single Theological Seminary, Divinity School, Bible College and Bible Institute
that does not teach immersion after.

Now, I truly, as God is my witness, have no idea why I ever even ventured into that forum. It was as if it was pulling me there. I have no business being there. But I was helpless to stop myself from reading, and further was helpless to stop myself from replying to what my mind and gut were telling me was wrong.

I knew and know  and no one would hear what I was saying because I am female, and certain people on there have very little regard for females other then what they perceive the "little woman's" role to be. 

Red, you said "If anyone gets their feelings hurt very easily, then debating scriptures is not for that person"

It is beyond feelings being hurt.  Everyone here knows if that was the case I would never have been tin the political forum.

When someone sets their aim to malign an individual belief, rather then constructively show why they believe they are wrong I do not know how to fight that.

But what made me remove myself  permanently was this from Kenneth

Ginger when you rely on CARM and Ginger you have picked a fight with the wrong GOD: God is never slow about slapping contenders with STRONG DELUSIONS

Now you won't see this but I see it as he believes that my God is not his God.

and he followed up with

Isaiah 1 inspired by God as the Spirit OF Christ is parallel to what Jesus FULFILLED and COMMANDED. Are you sure that you are trained enough to contradict the Holy Spirit OF God?

That is beyond common decency.

I am not fighting God. I certainly an not contradicting the Holy Spirit, but I am unable to say and express what I know in my heart is correct. BECAUSE I have read it with my own eyes. But... they will only counter and tell me my eyes were lying and I should ... Matt 5:29

And he is not unlike the other blowhard that stopped me from posting for a while. And stopped me again when I came back.......

He continues....

In our bound volume just after the Great Comission, Mark begins with the "arche" which is the most important part of the gospel. He quotes Malachi 3 about the "fuller" washing our garments as white as snow. Then, he launches into the baptism of John and the disciples of Jesus.  It would seem natural that the ARCHE would be restated.

Sometimes not finding something in a manuscript which means someone's old Bible can be AMENDED by what the theologians and historians wrote.

Say what???? "which means someone's old Bible can be AMENDED by what the theologians and historians wrote"

That is, provided whoever "ADDS" to the word, which amending can be considered of doing... as long as it agrees with what your beliefs are. Or perhaps your beliefs were originally formed by the amended???

But  you are off  to heck in a handbasket if someone who has a different belief offers an opinion on the amended. As what I had posted.
There were a lot, A LOT, that could have been posted from differing sources..... not just from Carm.... Theirs was just the most concise.

And this clearly tells me that ... well, I will not use those words here.

Now...What has caused me to even post this today is a reply from Buff.

GINGER RELLA:

   I might add that immersion [not “baptism”] in water does not finalize one’s initial salvation, but simply confirms it, as you indicated.

    However, if a person deliberately and knowingly rejects being immersed in water after being exposed to the command, such as Jesus’ last words in Matthew 28 before He ascended back into heaven, his “faith” is in question and his initial [spiritual] birth could be in jeopardy.

Just a thought or two,

Buff

2nd paragraph , the italicized area is directed at me. If not, it would not have been emphasized with the italics.

Jaime, I appreciate your kind words.

Mommydi, I will see you in emails.

Red, No... I have no post to return to. Most likely was Satan who kept me coming back daily for my rump to be kicked. I, in error, had thought it was God, but as the others will tell you, that could not be the case.... as they believe He will likely not have anything to do with me... an unsaved, unbaptised, un Holy Spirit filled
whatever.

Quoting you again

"I think she needs to get her fanny right back here where she belongs right now. I thought she was a much tougher woman then let anyone's hard speeches cause her to leave, ESPECIALLY SO if she truly believed she was right, why leave? "

I left because my beliefs and way of thinking were always wrong.... and the insinuated comments  that I am wrong with God.

I cannot fight that. I do not know how. 

Again you said.....

"If anyone gets their feelings hurt very easily, then debating scriptures is not for that person."

I never thought I was debating. I thought that when I posted something from the bible and  it was a accurate as it came from the bible...

Post from the bible, I am wrong... Post from my interpretation, I am wrong... Post some articles I read that said things that I believe that I could not say as well as they do and oh my Lord,....

 "If God is for us, who can possibly be against us to defeat us"

Well, speaking as a defeated one, guess God is not for me.

"Not good enough, you have a post to fill."

That would be in my kitchen and doing housework. Period.

Final word.

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Horse Hockey Rella, no one on this forum is or has been wronger to more people than me being of the “cofc sect”. And those that opposed your views were not against you because you are a woman anymore than all those are against me because they might think I am a woman. I have found that no matter where one stands, there will always be opposition. Same with politics. You didn’t mind kicking men in the groin in the political forum when they opposed you. And to get verklempt over what Kenneth says is like, WHAT in the name of Waylon Jennings?!! to me. If you hadn’t taken offense no one would know what he said because no one reads his posts and certainly doesn’t take them seriously. I have been highly offended by Kenneth for years here and before with his piney.com website. He is and always will be “contentious for the faith”. It would be like me being finally and forever offended by one of our resident cofc-phobes, who is  also a Hillary fan. Ain’t happenin’.
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Rella, I don't know if you will see this but here goes.

I am crying and upset that you have chosen to leave. I for one really liked discussing topics with you. Yes we might disagree but I was hoping we did it in loving caring faith that we could maybe come together on what the bible was really teaching. I hope I had no part in your decision to leave and hope I did not add to the hurt you are feeling. I loved discussing with you. Yes I may think your view is wrong but you thought the same of mine and I thought we were trying to come to common ground but if my opinion hurt you I am sorry and had no intention on that being the outcome.

I do hope you see this and we can still discuss even if it has to be by email. I understand lot more than you think and we have lots of areas we agree but yes there are a few we need to work on. Just know that I really loved your part in the discussion and yes I am sorry some came down hard but I thought you were holding your own. I will miss your input but understand if you feel it is in your best interest to step out. Hope you have a very blessed life and will miss your input.

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Rella, I'm not quite sure why you became so offended here. There is a plethora of members here that hold opposing views that also take much criticism for their charges but they seem to move forward either holding their feet firm in place or by simply turning the page, either way works and neither hold you in contempt for disregarding previous discussions that you no longer wish to engage in. You are free to speak your piece and move on or to dig your heels in and fight. I myself do not often participate in lengthy theological discussions since I find it exhausting to keep going around in circles, repeating the same thing over and over, add to that, some members will resort to personal attacks when they are repeatedly challenged.

None of us has all the answers and the ones that seem to think they do are the least likely to be of any assistance or show any compassion.


The discretion of a man makes him slow to anger, And his glory is to overlook a transgression.


I've found some of the best people to fellowship with are those people that have learned to tip the scales in favor of filling their cup with the glory of the Lord rather that debate about His will.

I hope you find it in your heart to remain with us, you are a valuable and well loved member here.

Alan

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I agree Alan. As I have told Rella, me, 4WD, Yogi and Soterion are by FAR in the minority opinion on baptism here at this forum. Most like Fish153, and scores of others no longer participate in those debates. The mirage that my side is in the majority here is completely laughable. We are simply the most persistent.
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Uncle
Just be glad that you are 540 miles from me or I'll be knocking on your door tonight. Uncle should not be in your vocabulary. Get some much-needed rest, and then refuel.  These things do drain a person, I know. There's a few here that takes all I can muster to deal with, but deal with I will so help me God. I have eternity to rest, but now we all must work while it is today. You are seeking the truth, you cannot find it in the kitchen doing just housework Miss Martha you need to be a Mary.  Much love to you.  RB

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I understand, When you feel like you are always wrong that can be discouragement. But please don't leave because u r offended, that is never the right reason. Sometimes you just need to egnore someone rather than get caught up in "futile arguments" Whatever you decide. God bless you!

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Rella, I woulda thought Ted Cruz would have pre-emptively surrended to Robert Francis (Beto) O’Rourke than I would have bet on you hollerin’ UNCLE on any topic. Heck I woulda given better odds on Trump surrendering to Mueller before hearing you say UNCLE.
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Ginger, I tried to fill in the blanks or finish the passages.  I will leave you alone.  I regret that I offended you.

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Noooooooo!!!!!!  ::frown::   ::cryingtears::

This place won't be the same without you, Rella.

At least come back for mid-terms.  ::nodding::

You "spiced things up"  for us all "Ginger Rella" -  by introducing new interesting topics.  Sad how we sometimes come across as harsh, insensitive to others, etc, in topic replies! Perhaps we all ought to consider the "tone" of what we write - will it cause hurt to others - instead of helping them to "grow", or see things from a different perspective?  If all "goes well for us" - we shall all be part of one great family with the Lord - no bickering allowed!

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Ginger, I tried to fill in the blanks or finish the passages.  I will leave you alone.  I regret that I offended you.
This should be acceptable, and if not, then God will not forgive us when we offend others.
Quote from: James
James 3:2~For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body.
We ALL have offended others, the key is who will admit this and ask forgiveness and forgive when it is done toward us when sin is confess with sorrow.
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To everyone,

I cannot send PMs. I received two that I will reply to here because I also cannot reply to PMs.

Regarding regular threads,

Kenneth,

Yes, it was not so much that I was offended, but hurt. It is alright. Not your fault because you had no way to know
why anything said would have any effect on me. I prefer to view it as a wake up call. I,and no one else ,or anything they say is accountable. You, nor anyone could know why and how I arrived at this point in my life.

God bless,and take care.

As to the PMs.

No one need fear that I am going to barrage anyone with any.  I received 2 and according to the bright red bar across the top I am 200% full with no ability to reply.Nor to PM anyone if I click on your name in a thread.

Yogi,

You have no reason to apologize . I m certain no one intended to hurt me, directly . It is the short circuit in me and
and my life circumstances, and yes , I guess fear, that made me leave. There is nothing to forgive you for, but I do.

Jaime,

Same also. No ability to contact you.I am being restrained whether directly or because I do not have  the proper number of posts, or just being watched  ::shrug::

So, what I was going to share as to my reason why I am at this point will remain with me,for the moment. It just is not for an open forum.

But thank you for trying.

Finally.

As I have no plans to increase my posts by very much,and since I am incapable of replying to any PM, AND
since there is no way for me to put an email in the profile.... just in case....

gingerellaemail@gmail.com

God Bless you everyone.


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I think one lesson for all of us is, If someone posts something that is met with negativity, or disagreements... if there is those that agree with the original post then we need to speak up, if for no other reason just the encourage the poster.   ::hug::

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IMO we ought to be careful what we write that others may read"  I had a "salutatory" lesson about that some time ago.  When we talk to others, the words come and go - although any hurt they cause may be long-lasting. That reminds me of the proverb "Even a fool, if he holds his peace, may be thought wise; keep your mouth shut and show your good sense." Another of my favourite proverbs on this matter of "talk" is "When men speak much, evil is not far away." - so much for our legislative assemblies!

 What a different matter it is with the words we write - they may come back much later to "haunt" us!  At one time I used to post on a popular, now locked-down, swimming forum, and posted on the subject of doing "underwater body dolphin" at the dive-in and turns when swimming pool lengths.  Years later to my horror when reviewing some of the current thoughts on this subject - I happened to do a "Google" search, only to discover that muggin's "very non-expert" posts had been "hoovered up" by Google, and was available/promulgated as if coming from an expert!!!  So watch out folks - your words may come back to "bite" you!
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Philippians is also comfort when you can't sleep like tonight.  ::smile::
It's a wonderful Epistle! Joy... joy in suffering ...joy nevertheless...

The Person and Work of Christ in chapter 2 comes over so clearly and wonderfully...

In chapter 4 of Philippians, joyfulness, prayerfulness and thankfulness are linked... ::smile::

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I will miss you.   Thanks for all the communications we've had.    Take some time, think about it, and come on back when you're ready.   It's a better forum with you.

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I think one lesson for all of us is, If someone posts something that is met with negativity, or disagreements... if there is those that agree with the original post then we need to speak up, if for no other reason just the encourage the poster.   ::hug::
We all need encouraging!  ::smile::