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What It's Like To Believe Everything The Media Tells You
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« Reply #1 on: Thu May 07, 2020 - 09:09:04 »
Speaking of...

CNBC runs a serious article - not satirical - that the Chinese people were actually given a poll on how they feel about their government's handling of the virus and the people ranked them top of the list.
Anyone who still thinks there's a shred of integrity and truth in MSM reporting deserves what they get from it.


https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/07/coronavirus-china-vietnam-uae-top-list-as-citizens-rank-government-response.html?__source=twitter%7Cmain

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« Reply #2 on: Thu May 07, 2020 - 12:21:24 »
Speaking of...

CNBC runs a serious article - not satirical - that the Chinese people were actually given a poll on how they feel about their government's handling of the virus and the people ranked them top of the list.
Anyone who still thinks there's a shred of integrity and truth in MSM reporting deserves what they get from it.


https://www.cnbc.com/2020/05/07/coronavirus-china-vietnam-uae-top-list-as-citizens-rank-government-response.html?__source=twitter%7Cmain

In China the other 14% will probably end up in re-education camps.

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« Reply #3 on: Sat May 09, 2020 - 16:28:28 »
China is an example of a country where the media is not permitted to criticize the government.   That is exactly what Trump wants the United States to become.

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« Reply #4 on: Sat May 09, 2020 - 18:16:27 »
BS, he would just like FAIR reporting. The left leaning media is the big problem with the Left’s obcession with getting rid of Trump at any cost including the Russia, Russia, Russia hoax, which the liberal media could have easily exposed and enjoyed a scoop on the biggest story in decades, but chose to drink the Koolaid. It IS media’s job to be EVERY POLITICIAN’s worst nightmare GOP AND DEM, in the fashion of Sam Donaldson, fair yet unflinchingly tough on EVERY politician, not these cackling bozo’s we see that are only after gotcha for for one side. And this applies for the conservative gotcha  meisters in the media. If a reporter is going to be an ass, he needs to be an ass to both sides. We don‘t see that today, because as we all know journalism died 30 or so years ago. Politicians DO  NOT need or deserve apologists in the media. They need free lance proctologists in the media!
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« Reply #5 on: Sat May 09, 2020 - 18:17:39 »
China is an example of a country where the media is not permitted to criticize the government.   That is exactly what Trump wants the United States to become.

You cannot possibly believe that the criticism that has gone on since 2015 by the media
is warranted when most everything that has been said can be proven as false.

You must enjoy the 24/7 brainwashing of lies. ::shrug::

Fair reporting of the facts Trump encourages.




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« Reply #6 on: Sat May 09, 2020 - 20:23:21 »
China is an example of a country where the media is not permitted to criticize the government.   That is exactly what Trump wants the United States to become.

Your mind reading skills are lacking.

BTW, there's a big difference between criticizing and propagandizing.


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« Reply #7 on: Sat May 09, 2020 - 21:40:36 »
So long as the media are divided, with right, left, and center sources, we have a free press.   Which is what Trump fears.    Fox and Breitbart and scores of other far-right sources are balanced by far left sources and in the middle are all sorts of other sources.    So long as we have free press, that's how it will be. 

The press gets on every president's nerves. 

Most of them understand the Constitution well enough to respect a free press.

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« Reply #8 on: Sun May 10, 2020 - 06:05:26 »
Trump doesn’t fear dishonest media, he uses it against them. Their dishonesty is obvious to anyone if they pay attention. The only difference in Trump and other politicians is he has the guts to callout those that are dishonest. This is what people on the right have wanted for decades, ever since joirnalism died. People lament the existence of Fox, but they would have no reason if the rest of media was just honest and did their job of rectally probing EVERY politician rather than choosing idealogical sides. People like Schiff, Pelosi and Schumer couldn’t function with a media that performed rhe way it should. The impeachment fiasco or the Russian collision hoax wouldn’t have been possible if the dishonesty had been pursued. Fox tries to counter the MSM’s dishonest, but if people are entrenched with the Left wing media and think they are moderate, there is no hope of convincing those news consumers of any dishonesty. Journalism should exist ONLy to make EVERY POLITICIANS LIFE A LIVING HELL. Media ceases to function properly, and even CAUSES division when it’s component people take up idealogical crosses on either side. Let’s agree on THAT.

Also, Trump is not hated for wanting to be a dictator, he is hated because he wants to expose the evil of the establishment machines functioning as a uniparty in both parties. The illusion of a two party system is being exposed and MANY have a lot to lose from that exposure.

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« Reply #9 on: Sun May 10, 2020 - 07:20:53 »
So long as the media are divided, with right, left, and center sources, we have a free press.   Which is what Trump fears.    Fox and Breitbart and scores of other far-right sources are balanced by far left sources and in the middle are all sorts of other sources.    So long as we have free press, that's how it will be. 

The press gets on every president's nerves. 

Most of them understand the Constitution well enough to respect a free press.

Anyone who claims Fox is right wing is either ignorant or dishonest. I stopped watching a long time ago except for Tucker's show - and he doesn't toe the party line in certain areas. To pretend mass media is equally divided between left, centrist, and right is also dishonest.
BTW, none of the networks are "free press" at all. They're all owned, and follow orders from the top on which stories to push and which to ignore.

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« Reply #10 on: Sun May 10, 2020 - 07:24:27 »
Same with print media like NY Times. News IS now agenda driven. They should be sifting and tearing apart agendas, if journalism still existed.
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« Reply #11 on: Sun May 10, 2020 - 07:28:51 »
Same with print media like NY Times. News IS agenda driven. They should be sifting and tearing apart agendas, if journalism still existed.

Exactly. I don't understand how people can sit down and turn on the tv news or pick up a newspaper and think they're getting truth. It's beyond me how gullible the masses are.

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« Reply #12 on: Sun May 10, 2020 - 09:09:16 »
Exactly. I don't understand how people can sit down and turn on the tv news or pick up a newspaper and think they're getting truth. It's beyond me how gullible the masses are.

No, we stopped subscribing to any newspapers and the only :newspaper" comments I get are the freeby NYT that started to show in my inbox.

I turn onto AM news local for 30 min at 6 AM just for weather and if anything important is going on. That early they rarely mention any political stuff.

I only watch some of Fox.  The Outnumbered at noon,  The Five, And Laura Ingraham at 10 for 30 min then off to bed.

Saturday I watch Jessie Watters and Judge Jeanine. I try never to miss her.

I fill in with whatever pops up on the computer through the day.

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« Reply #13 on: Mon May 11, 2020 - 22:34:50 »
If you don't check a variety of sources for news, you're asking to be misled.   Always see what's being presented on different viewpoints.    And when someone tells you something you really want to be true, be especially skeptical; that's when you're easiest to fool.


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« Reply #14 on: Tue May 12, 2020 - 11:44:27 »
If you don't check a variety of sources for news, you're asking to be misled.   Always see what's being presented on different viewpoints.    And when someone tells you something you really want to be true, be especially skeptical; that's when you're easiest to fool.

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« Reply #15 on: Tue May 12, 2020 - 15:59:48 »
America's MSM has become an enemy of the people.  True journalism has been lost.  Probably it will never be about truth, facts ever again.

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« Reply #16 on: Mon May 18, 2020 - 12:50:02 »
I personally believe almost nothing the main stream media says.  What a shame that in the USA the media has become so biased and opinionated.  True journalism is dead.

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« Reply #17 on: Tue May 19, 2020 - 10:13:26 »
Every wannabee dictator attacks the media.   So long as the press remains free, a dictatorship is impossible.   We have a much more diverse media now than in the past.    And that's a good thing.   And people have a good idea which media slant the most and in which direction.   

Americans are smarter than their would-be masters hope they are:

Among all adult Americans surveyed:

    On average, 55% of adults found the nine outlets in the survey credible. 
    63% of adults said CBS is credible.
    61% of adults said NBC is credible.
    60% of adults said ABC is credible.
    59% of adults said The Wall Street Journal is credible.
    53% of adults said CNN is credible, the same percentage as The New York Times.
    51% of adults said Fox News is credible.
    49% of adults said NPR is credible.
    48% of adults said MSNBC is credible.

https://www.businessinsider.com/most-and-least-trusted-news-outlets-in-america-cnn-fox-news-new-york-times-2019-4

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« Reply #18 on: Tue May 19, 2020 - 19:57:13 »
Every wannabee dictator attacks the media.   So long as the press remains free, a dictatorship is impossible.   We have a much more diverse media now than in the past.    And that's a good thing.   And people have a good idea which media slant the most and in which direction.   

Americans are smarter than their would-be masters hope they are:

Among all adult Americans surveyed:

    On average, 55% of adults found the nine outlets in the survey credible. 
    63% of adults said CBS is credible.
    61% of adults said NBC is credible.
    60% of adults said ABC is credible.
    59% of adults said The Wall Street Journal is credible.
    53% of adults said CNN is credible, the same percentage as The New York Times.
    51% of adults said Fox News is credible.
    49% of adults said NPR is credible.
    48% of adults said MSNBC is credible.

https://www.businessinsider.com/most-and-least-trusted-news-outlets-in-america-cnn-fox-news-new-york-times-2019-4

Well, at least FOX beat out MSNBC,

The rest of the list shows exactly what is wrong with the minds of the American people.

The intelligenceof the American people is in deep trouble and too easliy swayed


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« Reply #19 on: Wed May 20, 2020 - 04:21:08 »
Americans are smarter than their would-be masters hope they are:

Among all adult Americans surveyed:

    On average, 55% of adults found the nine outlets in the survey credible. 
    63% of adults said CBS is credible.
    61% of adults said NBC is credible.
    60% of adults said ABC is credible.
    59% of adults said The Wall Street Journal is credible.
    53% of adults said CNN is credible, the same percentage as The New York Times.
    51% of adults said Fox News is credible.
    49% of adults said NPR is credible.
    48% of adults said MSNBC is credible.

https://www.businessinsider.com/most-and-least-trusted-news-outlets-in-america-cnn-fox-news-new-york-times-2019-4


Barbarian, you are true to your name spiritual speaking. IF these numbers are correct it actually proves just how much of a fool the American people are, it certainly does not prove that they are wise!
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Exactly. I don't understand how people can sit down and turn on the tv news or pick up a newspaper and think they're getting truth. It's beyond me how gullible the masses are.
Agreed....Except..... that it is not beyond me, it is the SIGN of the TIME that our Lord Jesus' apostles spoke of~see and ponder: 2nd Timothy 3:1-4:5 The only TRUE light in this world are godly with truth from heaven and when these folks are few, then you have what we now see not only around the world, but even in America at one time one of the last shinning lights left in this world, but shinning no more!
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Anyone who claims Fox is right wing is either ignorant or dishonest. I stopped watching a long time ago except for Tucker's show - and he doesn't toe the party line in certain areas. To pretend mass media is equally divided between left, centrist, and right is also dishonest.
The term rightwing is a misnomer in our day, only born again children of God would be considered by all news channels as cancer to our society that needs to be killed and done away with IF these born again children of God would be true to God's words in every word of it~which they should if they truly love God more than desiring to be accepted by man. I learned a long time ago that you cannot say or do enough to make God-haters accept you until you agree with them on EVERYthing and then you truly mean nothing to them other than the self-gratification they got from YOU agreeing with them!
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It only proves just how simple-minded you are, and there is not a wise bone in your body!
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Proverbs 14:15~The simple believeth every word: but the prudent man looketh well to his going.
Skepticism is a virtue. Caution is a sign of nobility. Demanding proof is wisdom. Only the foolish and stupid believe all they hear or read. Simple-minded folks believe every word that is FALSE. and has no profit in believing, but what DOES serve to their good, they reject every word! Go firgure~ and if you cannot, then maybe I can help you out a little more, but most likely it would be totally rejected~so then, the words of Red are ended! Job 31:40

 
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« Reply #20 on: Thu May 21, 2020 - 15:40:57 »
The only media I ever look at is Fox and Friends in the mornings and sometimes on Saturdays.  They have the best commentators in my opinion.  I mostly research everything being thrown out on TV.  It is a sad state of affairs that in this day and time in the USA at least, truth from the media is difficult to come by.

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« Reply #21 on: Fri May 22, 2020 - 06:58:19 »
Every wannabee dictator attacks the media.   So long as the press remains free, a dictatorship is impossible.   We have a much more diverse media now than in the past.    And that's a good thing.   And people have a good idea which media slant the most and in which direction.   

Americans are smarter than their would-be masters hope they are:

Among all adult Americans surveyed:

    On average, 55% of adults found the nine outlets in the survey credible. 
    63% of adults said CBS is credible.
    61% of adults said NBC is credible.
    60% of adults said ABC is credible.
    59% of adults said The Wall Street Journal is credible.
    53% of adults said CNN is credible, the same percentage as The New York Times.
    51% of adults said Fox News is credible.
    49% of adults said NPR is credible.
    48% of adults said MSNBC is credible.

https://www.businessinsider.com/most-and-least-trusted-news-outlets-in-america-cnn-fox-news-new-york-times-2019-4

If 63% of people think that CBS is credible, that proves that a majority of Americans are stupid.

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« Reply #22 on: Sat May 23, 2020 - 07:55:34 »
If 63% of people think that CBS is credible, that proves that a majority of Americans are stupid.

Just goes to show what the poster follows or reads . These are in line with their belief.

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« Reply #23 on: Thu May 28, 2020 - 21:33:30 »
There is only truth and lies. Varied has nothing to do with most of the main stream media. They have no shame. Joe Scarborough and Mika B are prime examples. Joe was a freaking Republican congressman for God’s sake. He is as disingenuous as they come, groveling around in the muck with all the Democrat pigs.

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« Reply #24 on: Fri May 29, 2020 - 06:53:29 »
There is no middle ground in this debate, the right dismisses all of the left wing media as fake and left does exactly the same. In my experience it has come down to the narrative that suits you best will be the media outlet that you adhere to.

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« Reply #25 on: Sat May 30, 2020 - 12:35:42 »
In my opinion and from what I have watched in media, they are most definitely left leaning. 

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« Reply #26 on: Sat May 30, 2020 - 16:42:34 »
In my opinion and from what I have watched in media, they are most definitely left leaning.


Most are, but what you see depends on what kind of feeds you subscribe to. On social media, algorithms will dictate your preferences and if you're left leaning you will see a lot of anti-Trump jargon, if you're right leaning you may experience quite a bit of Breitbart or Daily Wire types of articles. 

 

     
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