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« Reply #45 on: November 19, 2009, 06:14:15 PM »

Ms gwen,

Hey sorry about your experiences. But this lady (with her tongue ring) was fine.

Her tongue ring didn't bother me. lol.

(Would it have bothered you, then?)

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So what's the "thing" with some Christian bookstore workers?

My mother had a very bad run-in with the Christian bookstore lady a few years ago. It seems that she went to find a certain book that I had asked for, for Christmas. When the lady asked her if she needed any help, Mom said, "I don't know my way around here, can you show where to find this book?" She said the lady LITERALLY looked down her nose at her (Mom's short anyway, but most people don't look down their noses at her) and asked, "Why not?" Mom, being honest said, "I haven't been here before and don't read this kind of stuff." The lady then told her (in a holier-than-thou attitude), "Humph! Well, maybe you should!" Mom said, "Thanks, anyway, but I'll go to Border's where at least they'll be more polite." The lady had the nerve to tell her on the way out to not let the door hit her and that it was a good thing she wouldn't be back!!!

Mom did find the book at Border's, and they were more polite. I had to admit that when I first started to go to the Christian bookstore, one lady (the owner) did question me about my reasons for being there, what I was looking for and why, and she would often question the books that I purchased. As I still did business with them (the only Christian bookstore for 40 miles), she began to question my salvation, based on the books I would buy. When we finally got another Christian bookstore, I told her I wouldn't be back and I told her why. She was furious and actually told me that I was not a Christian and wouldn't be allowed in her shop anymore.

It's people like that who make it hard for everyone. Frowning There are more ways than just getting piercings that one can be "sick with infection".

I don't really have a problem with tongue/body piercings, except when they are done for satanic purposes, or if I think of one being my own (having one done to myself). To see them in other people is just one of those things that I chalk up to personal choice and expression, although I wouldn't want to do it myself. I just think it would be too much of a hassle to have one, and to keep it clean and I equate it with those "toys" that come on a horse's bit, LOL. For me, it doesn't make sense, but I won't condemn people who chose to do it.
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« Reply #46 on: November 19, 2009, 10:01:45 PM »

Ms gwen:

I see, thnx, anyway.

So I guess you feel the same about various piercings and not only tongue. (Except of course for the usual earring piercings).

Sorry about your experiences anyway, but the lady I mentioned was fine.

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Ms gwen,

Hey sorry about your experiences. But this lady (with her tongue ring) was fine.

Her tongue ring didn't bother me. lol.

(Would it have bothered you, then?)

Take care.


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from: gwen on Today at 02:36:32 PM
So what's the "thing" with some Christian bookstore workers?

My mother had a very bad run-in with the Christian bookstore lady a few years ago. It seems that she went to find a certain book that I had asked for, for Christmas. When the lady asked her if she needed any help, Mom said, "I don't know my way around here, can you show where to find this book?" She said the lady LITERALLY looked down her nose at her (Mom's short anyway, but most people don't look down their noses at her) and asked, "Why not?" Mom, being honest said, "I haven't been here before and don't read this kind of stuff." The lady then told her (in a holier-than-thou attitude), "Humph! Well, maybe you should!" Mom said, "Thanks, anyway, but I'll go to Border's where at least they'll be more polite." The lady had the nerve to tell her on the way out to not let the door hit her and that it was a good thing she wouldn't be back!!!

Mom did find the book at Border's, and they were more polite. I had to admit that when I first started to go to the Christian bookstore, one lady (the owner) did question me about my reasons for being there, what I was looking for and why, and she would often question the books that I purchased. As I still did business with them (the only Christian bookstore for 40 miles), she began to question my salvation, based on the books I would buy. When we finally got another Christian bookstore, I told her I wouldn't be back and I told her why. She was furious and actually told me that I was not a Christian and wouldn't be allowed in her shop anymore.

It's people like that who make it hard for everyone. Frowning There are more ways than just getting piercings that one can be "sick with infection".

I don't really have a problem with tongue/body piercings, except when they are done for satanic purposes, or if I think of one being my own (having one done to myself). To see them in other people is just one of those things that I chalk up to personal choice and expression, although I wouldn't want to do it myself. I just think it would be too much of a hassle to have one, and to keep it clean and I equate it with those "toys" that come on a horse's bit, LOL. For me, it doesn't make sense, but I won't condemn people who chose to do it.
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« Reply #47 on: November 20, 2009, 12:39:48 AM »

Ouch, Gwen. A combination of unchristian behavior and bad business practices makes for a painful shopping experience.

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« Reply #48 on: November 20, 2009, 06:39:31 AM »

I like tongue rings. On other people though  I agree

Think it would be a bit painful myself. It's not dangerous (potentially) apparently, unlike eyebrow rings which if put in the wrong place can cause partial paraylasis of your face. Not nice.
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« Reply #49 on: November 20, 2009, 10:48:44 AM »

I have nothing against what a person choices to do with their body, even I have two holes in each ear, but very seldom wear earrings unless I am dressing up to go somewhere. It's not the flesh God looks at anyway, but the intent of the heart is what God is concerned about. In Ezekiel 16 God was chastising Jerusalem for turning prideful an arrogant  for being Gods elect through the covenant promises he made with Abraham. God gave them the gold and jewels of the ground, but they took what God gave them and turned from God through adorning themselves and making golden images of other gods they soon worshiped and sacrificed to. Jerusalem turned prideful to the imaginations of their own thoughts and desires and caused God to reject Israel for their vanities. God stilled loved them, but was angry for what they did with what God gave them. It's not unlike some people today as they are swayed by what others do to themselves and they want the same thing as they deem it to be the "in thing" to do, but to only discover when they get older they really do not like what they did anymore. I know this one Pastor who in his youth was a Nazi activist with many tats associated with that and in his early adulthood turned to Christ and had tats associated with His faith which now draws in many youth that other churches would reject and through the Spirit of God in him is reaching out to the youth as they are coming to Christ. It's not so much as what a person does to their body as that is their choice, but it is our reaction to those who choose these things. Are we going to pick and choose who to witness Christ to or are we going to show love and compassion for all of Gods creation no matter who they are.
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« Reply #50 on: November 20, 2009, 12:51:33 PM »

Ms Debbie:

Again you have done a really thoughtful post, which you seem to be good at writing.

Yes, it's definitely classy for a lady to have 2 holes put in each ear, isn't it?

At the same time also, you're right, Ezekiel 16 and other passages do give good warnings not to put too much attention on the outward at the expense of the inward. Very true.
(Ezekiel 16, around verse 12, is of course where the Lord is even recorded as giving Zion a nose ring.)

And yes you have given an example of the way a thoughtful tattoo design can seem both enhancing to the wearer and communicative of that person's faith message.

So, yes, as always, it's a question of balance, right, Ms Debbie?

Take care.

I have nothing against what a person choices to do with their body, even I have two holes in each ear, but very seldom wear earrings unless I am dressing up to go somewhere. It's not the flesh God looks at anyway, but the intent of the heart is what God is concerned about. In Ezekiel 16 God was chastising Jerusalem for turning prideful an arrogant  for being Gods elect through the covenant promises he made with Abraham. God gave them the gold and jewels of the ground, but they took what God gave them and turned from God through adorning themselves and making golden images of other gods they soon worshiped and sacrificed to. Jerusalem turned prideful to the imaginations of their own thoughts and desires and caused God to reject Israel for their vanities. God stilled loved them, but was angry for what they did with what God gave them. It's not unlike some people today as they are swayed by what others do to themselves and they want the same thing as they deem it to be the "in thing" to do, but to only discover when they get older they really do not like what they did anymore. I know this one Pastor who in his youth was a Nazi activist with many tats associated with that and in his early adulthood turned to Christ and had tats associated with His faith which now draws in many youth that other churches would reject and through the Spirit of God in him is reaching out to the youth as they are coming to Christ. It's not so much as what a person does to their body as that is their choice, but it is our reaction to those who choose these things. Are we going to pick and choose who to witness Christ to or are we going to show love and compassion for all of Gods creation no matter who they are.
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« Reply #51 on: November 21, 2009, 02:17:07 PM »

Ms Debbie:

Again you have done a really thoughtful post, which you seem to be good at writing.

Yes, it's definitely classy for a lady to have 2 holes put in each ear, isn't it?

At the same time also, you're right, Ezekiel 16 and other passages do give good warnings not to put too much attention on the outward at the expense of the inward. Very true.
(Ezekiel 16, around verse 12, is of course where the Lord is even recorded as giving Zion a nose ring.)

And yes you have given an example of the way a thoughtful tattoo design can seem both enhancing to the wearer and communicative of that person's faith message.

So, yes, as always, it's a question of balance, right, Ms Debbie?

Take care.

I have nothing against what a person choices to do with their body, even I have two holes in each ear, but very seldom wear earrings unless I am dressing up to go somewhere. It's not the flesh God looks at anyway, but the intent of the heart is what God is concerned about. In Ezekiel 16 God was chastising Jerusalem for turning prideful an arrogant  for being Gods elect through the covenant promises he made with Abraham. God gave them the gold and jewels of the ground, but they took what God gave them and turned from God through adorning themselves and making golden images of other gods they soon worshiped and sacrificed to. Jerusalem turned prideful to the imaginations of their own thoughts and desires and caused God to reject Israel for their vanities. God stilled loved them, but was angry for what they did with what God gave them. It's not unlike some people today as they are swayed by what others do to themselves and they want the same thing as they deem it to be the "in thing" to do, but to only discover when they get older they really do not like what they did anymore. I know this one Pastor who in his youth was a Nazi activist with many tats associated with that and in his early adulthood turned to Christ and had tats associated with His faith which now draws in many youth that other churches would reject and through the Spirit of God in him is reaching out to the youth as they are coming to Christ. It's not so much as what a person does to their body as that is their choice, but it is our reaction to those who choose these things. Are we going to pick and choose who to witness Christ to or are we going to show love and compassion for all of Gods creation no matter who they are.

yes farouk it is a question of balance of what kind of statement we are making and who we are influencing through those choices we make.
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« Reply #52 on: December 02, 2009, 10:05:28 AM »

Ms yesult:

Quite a lot of ppl think they are quite classy, I think.

Do any of your friends have them?

I guess for you the potential pain (actually it's more the potential temporary swelling than pain) outweighs the fact that you really like idea of one?

Take care.

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I like tongue rings. ...

Think it would be a bit painful myself. It's not dangerous (potentially) apparently
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« Reply #53 on: December 02, 2009, 10:09:27 AM »

Ms Debbie:

Again you have done a really thoughtful post, which you seem to be good at writing.

Yes, it's definitely classy for a lady to have 2 holes put in each ear, isn't it?

At the same time also, you're right, Ezekiel 16 and other passages do give good warnings not to put too much attention on the outward at the expense of the inward. Very true.
(Ezekiel 16, around verse 12, is of course where the Lord is even recorded as giving Zion a nose ring.)

And yes you have given an example of the way a thoughtful tattoo design can seem both enhancing to the wearer and communicative of that person's faith message.

So, yes, as always, it's a question of balance, right, Ms Debbie?

Take care.

I have nothing against what a person choices to do with their body, even I have two holes in each ear, but very seldom wear earrings unless I am dressing up to go somewhere. It's not the flesh God looks at anyway, but the intent of the heart is what God is concerned about. In Ezekiel 16 God was chastising Jerusalem for turning prideful an arrogant  for being Gods elect through the covenant promises he made with Abraham. God gave them the gold and jewels of the ground, but they took what God gave them and turned from God through adorning themselves and making golden images of other gods they soon worshiped and sacrificed to. Jerusalem turned prideful to the imaginations of their own thoughts and desires and caused God to reject Israel for their vanities. God stilled loved them, but was angry for what they did with what God gave them. It's not unlike some people today as they are swayed by what others do to themselves and they want the same thing as they deem it to be the "in thing" to do, but to only discover when they get older they really do not like what they did anymore. I know this one Pastor who in his youth was a Nazi activist with many tats associated with that and in his early adulthood turned to Christ and had tats associated with His faith which now draws in many youth that other churches would reject and through the Spirit of God in him is reaching out to the youth as they are coming to Christ. It's not so much as what a person does to their body as that is their choice, but it is our reaction to those who choose these things. Are we going to pick and choose who to witness Christ to or are we going to show love and compassion for all of Gods creation no matter who they are.
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« Reply #54 on: December 02, 2009, 10:21:20 AM »

Ms gwen:

I see, thnx, anyway.

So I guess you feel the same about various piercings and not only tongue. (Except of course for the usual earring piercings).

Sorry about your experiences anyway, but the lady I mentioned was fine.

Take care.

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Ms gwen,

Hey sorry about your experiences. But this lady (with her tongue ring) was fine.

Her tongue ring didn't bother me. lol.

(Would it have bothered you, then?)

Take care.


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So what's the "thing" with some Christian bookstore workers?

My mother had a very bad run-in with the Christian bookstore lady a few years ago. It seems that she went to find a certain book that I had asked for, for Christmas. When the lady asked her if she needed any help, Mom said, "I don't know my way around here, can you show where to find this book?" She said the lady LITERALLY looked down her nose at her (Mom's short anyway, but most people don't look down their noses at her) and asked, "Why not?" Mom, being honest said, "I haven't been here before and don't read this kind of stuff." The lady then told her (in a holier-than-thou attitude), "Humph! Well, maybe you should!" Mom said, "Thanks, anyway, but I'll go to Border's where at least they'll be more polite." The lady had the nerve to tell her on the way out to not let the door hit her and that it was a good thing she wouldn't be back!!!

Mom did find the book at Border's, and they were more polite. I had to admit that when I first started to go to the Christian bookstore, one lady (the owner) did question me about my reasons for being there, what I was looking for and why, and she would often question the books that I purchased. As I still did business with them (the only Christian bookstore for 40 miles), she began to question my salvation, based on the books I would buy. When we finally got another Christian bookstore, I told her I wouldn't be back and I told her why. She was furious and actually told me that I was not a Christian and wouldn't be allowed in her shop anymore.

It's people like that who make it hard for everyone. Frowning There are more ways than just getting piercings that one can be "sick with infection".

I don't really have a problem with tongue/body piercings, except when they are done for satanic purposes, or if I think of one being my own (having one done to myself). To see them in other people is just one of those things that I chalk up to personal choice and expression, although I wouldn't want to do it myself. I just think it would be too much of a hassle to have one, and to keep it clean and I equate it with those "toys" that come on a horse's bit, LOL. For me, it doesn't make sense, but I won't condemn people who chose to do it.
                                                   ::frown::tired of it yet?
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« Reply #55 on: December 02, 2009, 10:25:53 AM »

BB:

Nothing off limits? Well I think you would draw the line somewhere anyway.

(But I guess ears are quite 'tame'...)

Take care.

Nothing is off limits to pierce.
                               ::frown::still not tired of it i guess ..take care.
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« Reply #56 on: December 02, 2009, 10:30:32 AM »

Ms yesult:

Quite a lot of ppl think they are quite classy, I think.

Do any of your friends have them?

I guess for you the potential pain (actually it's more the potential temporary swelling than pain) outweighs the fact that you really like idea of one?

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I like tongue rings. ...

Think it would be a bit painful myself. It's not dangerous (potentially) apparently
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« Reply #57 on: December 02, 2009, 10:36:29 AM »

B:

Do you have direct experience of it, maybe?


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                                       Like Mr Farouk I can keep this up all day  take care    Frowning
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« Reply #58 on: December 02, 2009, 09:49:19 PM »

Ms Debbie / Ms gwen:

It's a matter of personal choice and enhancement and expression (done - one hopes - in a tasteful way, anyway).

We need to think of ppl inwardly, anyway, in terms of spiritual things, right?

Fact is, at 18 so many young ppl like to get little rings and studs; it's seeing beyond them that is the main thing; but I guess some can be done tastefully, right? it's for them to work out for themselves, anyway.

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I have nothing against what a person choices to do with their body, even I have two holes in each ear.. It's not the flesh God looks at anyway, but the intent of the heart is what God is concerned about.... It's not so much as what a person does to their body as that is their choice, but it is our reaction to those who choose these things. Are we going to pick and choose who to witness Christ to or are we going to show love and compassion for all of Gods creation no matter who they are.

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I don't really have a problem with tongue/body piercings.. To see them in other people is just one of those things that I chalk up to personal choice and expression..I won't condemn people who chose to do it.
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« Reply #59 on: December 02, 2009, 10:00:22 PM »

The topic of body art has been covered multiple times.  This thread will be locked.
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