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« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2005, 10:25:37 AM »

Jessica Simpson has crafted herself that way, similar to people like Monroe, Fawcett, etc.  It's an act that's making her millions.
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« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2005, 11:19:00 AM »

The reason men are so often ridiculed is because, in most cases, they are mature enough to take it with grace and not be so whiney. Some of you act like this is the first time in history that women have been shrews, and that the TV is opening the floodgates on all this behavior.

Yeah, Debra is mean sometimes. And Ray is childish sometimes. That's how they're written. It's fiction based on reality.

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Jessica Simpson is seen as sexy when she is dumb.  Not so with the dumb men in the commercials.  
Ya wanna know what takes real courage?  What admin has done by bringing this topic up.
No, Jessica Simpson is seen as sexy when she shows her cleavage. And by the way, her IQ is actually about as high as Lee's, and, as he will tell you, that's pretty high.

I think real courage is just doing your best at being a man and proving the commercials wrong.

They should make a commercial about whiney men who can't take being made fun of.

How about we spend some time talking about how the couples in most shows and commercials are an average-looking man and a gorgeous woman. Shall we see where that road leads us?[/color]
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« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2005, 11:25:20 AM »

Everyone should watch commercials, sitcoms and movies and when a woman says something disrespectful, sarcastic, or just plain mean or insulting to a man, FLIP IT. See how it would sound if it was applied back the other way (the man saying it to a woman).

Our society has been conditioned to take great offense if a woman is insulted. Notice that in movies, etc. the male who does that is almost always the villain. Yet it has been conditioned to be OK with attacks on men.

And how many times in movies and on sitcoms do we see women just haul off and smack a male? Over and over? What if a man smacked a woman in the face like that? I've had girlfriends slap me. But if I slapped her back I swear I would have been in handcuffs. Right?

And women (and impressionable children) see it over and over. Men can be the target of insults and physical abuse and it's even considered humorous!

John Bobbett. Remember him? His wife used a knife to cut off his penis. Jay Leno still jokes about it. It was a circus! But what if a male took a knife and cut off a woman's breast? Or a part of her genetalia? You think there'd be jokes about that? If there were, the public outcry would be great.

Sure, there are women who feel sexy acting like airheads. But it is self humor. They make fun of themselves. And they do it because they feel sexy by appearing that way. People don't openly insult them. It's not the same thing.

I work for a marriage ministry, and one of the biggest problems we see is that many women are EXTREMELY disrepectful to their husbands (yes, men do awful things to, but this problem is increasing). They role their eyes (a sign of contempt) at their husbands for hobbies he enjoys. They openly mock him for things he's done. But if a guy did that he would be viewed as the bully.

It's just not right.

...the wife must respect her husband. Ephesians 5:33

Is that principle being followed in society?

Absolutely not.

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« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2005, 11:31:21 AM »

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Our society has been conditioned to take great offense if a woman is insulted. Notice that in movies, etc. the male who does that is almost always the villain.
That's called chivalry.

It's the mark of a gentleman and one of the glories of western civilization.
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« Reply #34 on: April 15, 2005, 11:37:50 AM »

:amen: Bog. Thank you.
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« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2005, 12:10:06 PM »

Why don't we save getting our panties in a wad for something important.

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If you don't like TV, don't watch it.  If you don't like the commercials on the radio, do what I do--listen to NPR.

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« Reply #36 on: April 15, 2005, 12:36:36 PM »

I agree admin.  To take the spotlight off our teenagers for a moment (2hours of sunday morning is competing with the rest of the weak for our kids minds)  I wonder if our own "2 hour sunday morning" experience is not enough to break our hearts to witness people suffering the effects of unbridled and unleashed anger and frustration.  Where will our society learn what God's will is for our lives if we do not care enough to share what we know?
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« Reply #37 on: April 15, 2005, 01:10:34 PM »

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I work for a marriage ministry, and one of the biggest problems we see is that many women are EXTREMELY disrepectful to their husbands (yes, men do awful things to, but this problem is increasing). They role their eyes (a sign of contempt) at their husbands for hobbies he enjoys. They openly mock him for things he's done. But if a guy did that he would be viewed as the bully.
I know what you are talking about from personal experience.
Also, every sermon having to do with marital relations seems to focus on telling the husband how he can be better, more affectionate and respectful of his wife.  I never hear this mentioned to the wives.  And that is what Promise Keepers is all about.  Men getting together trying to figure out how they be more worshipping of their wives.  
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« Reply #38 on: April 15, 2005, 02:21:38 PM »

I agree, bog, and I agree with Lee that the respect should flow both directions.
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« Reply #39 on: April 15, 2005, 03:12:44 PM »

I don't watch any of it.  I stick to sporting events.  Then when the commercials come on I do something else.
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« Reply #40 on: April 18, 2005, 10:15:49 AM »

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How about we spend some time talking about how the couples in most shows and commercials are an average-looking man and a gorgeous woman. Shall we see where that road leads us?

Bingo! It's all part of the same politically correct extreme feminism that dominates the media -- that men are big, ugly idiots and women are brilliant, enlightened goddesses of desire.

If a black person was presented as stupid, would they be "whiney" if they complained about it? Or what about women? If women were presented as weak and stupid, would they be "whiney" if they complained?

Were the civil rights leaders of the 60s and 70s "whiney?" Is it "whiney" to point out when one gender/race is being mistreated?

Why is it that when white men complain about being mistreated they are "whiney" but when it is ANYONE ELSE they are doing some great civil service?!

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« Reply #41 on: April 18, 2005, 12:37:50 PM »

Lee,

Go read Sir Gawain and the Green Knight.
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« Reply #42 on: April 18, 2005, 05:50:26 PM »

Lee,
You might be stepping on some toes here.  That could be why you're being called whinney.  I grew up in a house where my mom would speak to my father like he was a child, because she thought she was smarter.  He hates it when someone points it out to them, because he wants to be in denial.  

I did the same thing when I was first married.  It should never matter what I.Q. someone has, for you to show respect.  I see husbands doing the same thing to wives.  Sometimes, it seems like it is the more educated spouse that talks down to the other.  Although in my case, James I.Q. is much higher.  I just did in my marriage what I saw in others.

I had a teacher one time have my class of boys and girls, take a sponge and wring the water out of it.  He wanted to see who could get the most water out.  We of course thought it would be the biggest guy.  It wasn't it was me.  I couldn't figure out how that was possible.  The teacher asked me if I did chores like dishes.  I did.  He said in all the years he did that with kids, it was almost always the girls who would win, because they were the ones doing dishes.  A female teacher heard him say that and told me not to put up with that, because it was sexist.  I thought, what may be sexist is the fact that the girls were doing chores and the boys were not.  :)
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« Reply #43 on: April 18, 2005, 07:39:00 PM »

Wow, I declare.  I never thought that a conversation like this would ever take place on this board.  
Talking about all of this exposes the feminists and in the long run will hopefully stop all of this misandry.  

I am so glad you brought this up admin.  And I'm surprised no one has called you a misogynist yet.  
Feminism has infiltrated the schools, the judicial system(family courts in particular), the entertainment industry, the Church, the military, etc.  God only knows where it will end.  

I'm no longer afraid of being called a woman hater.  When the family courts got done with me, I said enough is enough.

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« Reply #44 on: April 18, 2005, 07:46:27 PM »

Annie,
my aunt had to do most of the housework when she was a little girl.  She had four brothers that did very little in the house.  Do you think that is sexist?  Of course, the four boys were out in the hot sun all day walking behind a mule plowing fields, bailing hay, loading watermelons, and digging wells.  She wasn't out there doing that.  Was that sexist as well?
Just curious as to what you think.

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