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« Reply #60 on: April 20, 2005, 11:24:04 AM »

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« Reply #61 on: April 20, 2005, 11:34:01 AM »

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I find it strangely amusing that whenever a male talks along these lines as has Admin done, there seems to be a knee jerk response to avoid the actual point under review and immediately start analyzing the person to see what is causing this "complex".  

Actually, to be fair, the point itself was discussed immediately. Did you see the posts on the first two pages about Everybody Loves Raymond, country music, the target audience of TV and commercials, Andy Griffith, sitcoms in general, old-time TV shows, etc. All of the posts that I saw on the first two pages at least were about the topic, not attacking Lee or accusing him of having a complex.

To return to the topic, Lee and Perry, you are in good company. Marilyn Vos Savant said something along these lines (about women being portrayed as smart and men portrayed as bumbling) in her Parade column this past Sunday. I tried to find it online to show you but they don't post it until seven days after the fact. But if you saved your Parade section from Sunday's newspaper it's in there.[/color]
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« Reply #61 on: April 20, 2005, 11:34:01 AM »

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« Reply #62 on: April 20, 2005, 12:01:32 PM »

Winky thank you for being open minded.  
If anyone is interested here is a link to some sociological stuff that has been done on where we are headed:
Upstream: The Garbage Generation
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« Reply #63 on: April 20, 2005, 12:18:05 PM »

White men have run the world in every conceivable way for millenia.  So sad that with all that power, you can't take a little razzing on TV.
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« Reply #64 on: April 20, 2005, 12:30:15 PM »

Quinn, do you really think it's limited to white men?
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« Reply #65 on: April 20, 2005, 01:34:44 PM »

I've noticed a similar phenomenon at worship services.  Mother's Day rolls around and we hear how a godly womans price is far above rubies and that their husbands and children should keep that in mind.  

Father's Day comes by and men better striaghten up and do better.
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« Reply #66 on: April 20, 2005, 05:25:27 PM »

Very true getting older.  We are scum?
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« Reply #67 on: April 20, 2005, 05:26:58 PM »

I was responding to this comment:

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Why is it that when white men complain about being mistreated they are "whiney" but when it is ANYONE ELSE they are doing some great civil service?!
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« Reply #68 on: April 20, 2005, 08:09:45 PM »

Ah, got ya.  Sorry I didn't catch that.
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« Reply #69 on: April 20, 2005, 08:20:49 PM »

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I've noticed a similar phenomenon at worship services.  Mother's Day rolls around and we hear how a godly womans price is far above rubies and that their husbands and children should keep that in mind.  

Father's Day comes by and men better striaghten up and do better.
Nothing new, though.  During the Civil War, the men used the ideal of "Southern Womanhood" as one of their prime motivations for fighting.  Our culture's always elevated women to the point of sainthood, often by demonizing men a bit beyond what is necessary.

But in the end, men are the ones who do it.  Particularly southern men.  Take the whole genre of Redneck humor.  The purpose of the whole thing is to show how stupid and uncouth men are.  The culture has evolved to the point where men are often proud of their assumed stupidity, and a hint of intelligence or breeding is equated with a hint of femininity.  

So yes, this trend is real, but no, I don't blame women.  I think the lowest-common-denominator culture so many of us have bought into is to blame.[/color]
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« Reply #70 on: April 20, 2005, 09:54:52 PM »

Should I state the obvious and point out that Lee's poor pitiful man stance is just delicious fodder for the position that yes, men are stupid and should be made fun of?Confused :confused:

As for his experience on the golf course I have a different story. Over the next few weeks as you go into various stores notice the ratio of male to female cashiers. If you find 10% male I'd be surprised. The worst job in retail is cashier and it is almost always the lowest paid (unless some one has put years in at the job). Most guys, like Lee's girl on the golf course, don't do well at it and quickly find some other work.

Of course, Lee could care less about something like that. At all costs we have to save the endangered white male!!
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« Reply #71 on: April 21, 2005, 11:44:37 AM »

Um, Jim Abb, takes a lot of courage to attack like that. And yes, that is a veiled attack.
As far as the whole cashier thing goes, have you ever worked in a grocery store?  If not, then you are probably not familiar with the special treatment young females get from the managers.  The young boys are usually(much more so in times past than today) the ones sacking groceries and bringing them out to the car and stocking groceries while the young ladies are the ones working in the office or being the cashier.  I spent my high school time workingin a grocery store and I still see this attitude displayed at the stores here in town.
Ya want to attack me as being whiney I don't care.  I have courage because making a statement that might get me sneered at for making takes some back bone while standing with the crowd as you have done DOES NOT.

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« Reply #72 on: April 21, 2005, 12:13:46 PM »

I think it is fascinating....just fascinating that a man on the 7th thread actually: (a) admitted that men are portrayed as ugly and stupid in today's society and the (b) said it was their own fault!

Talk about being conditioned! "There's a double standard and men are portrayed as idiots....and it's our own fault!"

Sounds like brainwashing to me. Men have been conditioned to think that EVERYTHING bad is somehow our fault.

In my state (Tennessee) it is perfectly legal for a woman to get an abortion without her husband (or boyfriend) having any knowledge or say. Yet for me to get a vasectomy, legally, I have to actually have my wife's signature on a "waver." I'm not joking, because I am actually going to get the procedure, but they are literally forbidden by law to do the procedure on me without my wife "okaying" it.

That's right....when it comes to killing a baby, in our culture, it's a "woman's right to choose what happens to 'her' body." But a man...heck...the woman is in charge according to the government!

With her body, it's her decision. With a man's body....it's STILL her decision.

If you can't see something wrong with that, you are truly brainwashed and need...help.
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« Reply #73 on: April 21, 2005, 02:07:17 PM »

I'm so glad this thread got started. I'm going to go home and kick my pregnant wife in the mouth before she corrupts me any further.
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« Reply #74 on: April 21, 2005, 02:10:19 PM »

Make her cook biscuits, too.   Tell her to

"Get out in that kitchen and rattle those pots and pans!"
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