Charles,

I, nor you, and or anyone here or alive is either Paul, Jesus, or Isaiah of Jeremiah, etc.

We are human, first, then saved by Grace.

We will and do kill at the sake of war, defense or defeating the ides of darkness, roaming the wasteland, to then witness, love and live another day.

Robert

Then you know what I speak.  And I laughed so hard at your statement above, "Would Christ carry a gun or would he turn to prayer", as it is so amazing.

ANSWER:  No, he would not. Since he is GOD in the flesh, he would kill all the people on Earth by water in the flood and save 6, then tell them, I'll do it again, watch the fire next time.

Such silliness.

And lo, how possible could I "know who you are"?

And your tale, as a journalist, yes, I know exactly what you were seeing and doing and feeling, and it was not your time as the Lord protected you, perhaps as a journalist, with maybe numbers and not you just by yourself.  Who knows, but the Lord does.  You came out on the other side with no harm.

I will say if I had been there and someone would have started shooting, as a fellow American, I would grabbed a weapon, tackled you, held you down with me as protection and started "shootin' and lootin'" till it was over, then introduce myself to you and ask,  "You okay, partner......?"

Then, we would have discovered we were both in Jesus Christ.  Would you then say, "you shot all those people and saved me......You are a murderer and filled with hateful sin......."

Consider?

Robert



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Charles,

This one here above I have re-posted, mostly.  And Anchorman's initial post also, in retort to me.

I am intrigued for you to address this as you see things.

Robert

Should Christians own guns, Charles?

Robert

You guys are twisting the word for the sake of argument....  Charles I did give you a scripture ... Mark 3:37

And there is a BIG difference in being martyred for the Kingdom and the WORD of God, than defending the innocent lives of your children in your home.

IF you are preaching the gospel, and someone takes hold of you and kills you for doing that, you have no reason to fight, you have done well.  As the apostles did.

If you are in your home, and someone is breaking in to rob you, rape your wife or even your child, and you shoot them, you have not done anything wrong.
MARK 3:37 

They are different.  Really.   But, of course... continue the pee contest.... as you were. 

Numerous, and repeatedly throughout this thread.

I haven't seen one.

gary I have been wondering where you have been all day on this issue. Here is my sciputral arguement against using a gun for protection.  I am reposting this from earlier because I want you to way in
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Rams- in the eyes of God there is no difference between a slap on the cheek and someone pointing a gun in your face. How does that passage start off; "do not resist an evil person." What does resist mean; fight back.

Christ is telling you: Do not fight back.

Now what is really amazing to me is that anyone on this board would use Mathew 26:52 as an arguement for guns...in fact it's a clear cut arguement against guns and specfically against using guns for protection.

The context- and try as you might you cannot take it out of context- is one of an invasion- not unlike someone breaking into your home. Here comes Judas with the army- which under 25:47 clearly says the army has its swords drawn. "47While he was still speaking, Judas, one of the Twelve, arrived. With him was a large crowd armed with swords and clubs" Not unlike an armed robber.

So what does Peter do- he pulls out a sword- just like a homeowner running for his gun. And Christ publically rebukes him. Telling him not to fight back- that violence breads more violence; "Put your sword back in its place," Jesus said to him, "for all who draw the sword will die by the sword"

But don't stop there. On the next line of scripture- Jesus tells Peter where his faith should invested,---not in guns but in God. VS 53 "Do you think I cannot call on my Father, and he will at once put at my disposal more than twelve legions of angels? 54But how then would the Scriptures be fulfilled that say it must happen in this way?"

In the eyes of Christ you can only live by the cross- living by the gun is not an option- not a Christian option anyway. To even buy a gun is to not have faith in God's plan