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« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2009, 08:53:48 AM »
"Hope" in the Bible does not contain the element of uncertainty the word carries in English - as in "I hope it doesn't rain" which means "I don't want it to, but it just might - or maybe it won't."

"Hope" in the Bible is absolute confidence in something that has not been seen or fully realized yet.

Either way, the Bible is not my hope - it expresses my hope, reveals my hope, and builds up my hope.
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« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2009, 09:13:04 AM »

Jesus said

Jn 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

here is the words that will get a person eternal life strait from the Word of God

Mt 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? 17: And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.18: He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
19: Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
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Jn 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Jn 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

Jn 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
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« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2009, 10:15:35 AM »
Jesus Himself said that the scriptures are only a testimony of Life and not the source. The scriptures also tell us that our hope is justified by HolySpirit.  Putting hope of life into the bible only, reduces the hope to a mere theory with no practical reality.  
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« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2009, 10:23:14 AM »
It also sounds very much like the tact that the Pharisees used during Jesus time... and we know that didn't work out to well for them.
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« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2009, 10:40:12 AM »
Quote from: Tantor on November 03, 2009, 10:23:14 AM
It also sounds very much like the tact that the Pharisees used during Jesus time... and we know that didn't work out to well for them.


Yep, not too well at all.
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« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2009, 11:16:25 AM »
Nevertheless,   that song says it for me!     I love it!!!!!    Smile Clapping up high
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« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2009, 04:52:12 AM »
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Calvanists don't have hope. They are either saved or not whether they like it or not.

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well they think they are anyway


oh and as an interesting aside. Did you know that Calvin preached the death penalty for prostitutes. Because hey, if the temptation is gone, then the men won't stray.

Another reason why I'm not a fan. (One of quite a few actually.)
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« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2009, 04:56:49 AM »
Mind you if the prostitutes converted, they'd still be more saved then their customers even if they didn't give up the trade. (I mean once saved always saved right.)

Maybe he should have just preached to them instead. If their customers accepted christ too, then they'd be saved as well. Could have been a flourishing mission field.
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« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2009, 04:33:29 PM »
The bible is not my hope, but it tells me of my hope, which is in Jesus Christ. For as the disciples said to Jesus after the rest left Him, " and to whom can we go, for only you have the words of eternal life".

Oh not to forget, " the letter killeth".

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« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2009, 05:08:49 AM »
 
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The bible is not my hope, but it tells me of my hope, which is in Jesus Christ. For as the disciples said to Jesus after the rest left Him, " and to whom can we go, for only you have the words of eternal life".

Oh not to forget, " the letter killeth".


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« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2009, 08:59:22 AM »
Quote from: jiggyfly on November 03, 2009, 10:15:35 AM
Jesus Himself said that the scriptures are only a testimony of Life and not the source. The scriptures also tell us that our hope is justified by HolySpirit.  Putting hope of life into the bible only, reduces the hope to a mere theory with no practical reality.  


Your theology doesn't make a bit of sense. Where in the Bible are these things said?

Jesus is the Word, the living Word, the Bible is the written word therefore the two agree on all matters.  You know Jesus through and by his written word.
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« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2009, 10:23:30 AM »
The hope of God is a direct result of justification by grace. Not only does the hope of God save, it is a substantive thing far deeper in meaning than English language is able to satisfactorily describe.

The hope of God purifies (see 1 John 3:3), and becomes the precursor to eternal life that comes by the knowledge of God. That is how come the phrase "hope of eternal life" (see Titus 1:2, 3:7).

We don't get that hope of God from reading the Bible, but from the very heavenly gift of grace. Pharisees and Jews searched the scriptures thinking that from them comes eternal life... but, Christ Jesus told them that it is by coming to Him that eternal life can be obtained.
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« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2009, 01:57:36 PM »
Quote from: Bonnie on November 05, 2009, 08:59:22 AM
Quote from: jiggyfly on November 03, 2009, 10:15:35 AM
Jesus Himself said that the scriptures are only a testimony of Life and not the source. The scriptures also tell us that our hope is justified by HolySpirit.  Putting hope of life into the bible only, reduces the hope to a mere theory with no practical reality.  


Your theology doesn't make a bit of sense. Where in the Bible are these things said?

Jesus is the Word, the living Word, the Bible is the written word therefore the two agree on all matters.  You know Jesus through and by his written word.

Wow you don't know where in the bible Jesus said that? 
 Jhn 5:39&40  "You search the Scriptures because you believe they give you eternal life. But the Scriptures point to me!  Yet you refuse to come to me so that I can give you this eternal life. 



I know Jesus by the HolySpirit so please don't assume that you know anything of how I personally know Jesus, you only make yourself look foolish.
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« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2009, 01:58:34 PM »


Quote from: Glorious on November 05, 2009, 10:23:30 AM
The hope of God is a direct result of justification by grace. Not only does the hope of God save, it is a substantive thing far deeper in meaning than English language is able to satisfactorily describe.

The hope of God purifies (see 1 John 3:3), and becomes the precursor to eternal life that comes by the knowledge of God. That is how come the phrase "hope of eternal life" (see Titus 1:2, 3:7).

We don't get that hope of God from reading the Bible, but from the very heavenly gift of grace. Pharisees and Jews searched the scriptures thinking that from them comes eternal life... but, Christ Jesus told them that it is by coming to Him that eternal life can be obtained.

Good Post.
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« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2009, 05:18:11 PM »
Quote from: jiggyfly on November 05, 2009, 01:57:36 PM
Quote from: Bonnie on November 05, 2009, 08:59:22 AM
Quote from: jiggyfly on November 03, 2009, 10:15:35 AM
Jesus Himself said that the scriptures are only a testimony of Life and not the source. The scriptures also tell us that our hope is justified by HolySpirit.  Putting hope of life into the bible only, reduces the hope to a mere theory with no practical reality.  


Your theology doesn't make a bit of sense. Where in the Bible are these things said?

Jesus is the Word, the living Word, the Bible is the written word therefore the two agree on all matters.  You know Jesus through and by his written word.

Wow you don't know where in the bible Jesus said that? 
 Jhn 5:39&40  "You search the Scriptures because you believe they give you eternal life. But the Scriptures point to me!  Yet you refuse to come to me so that I can give you this eternal life. 



I know Jesus by the HolySpirit so please don't assume that you know anything of how I personally know Jesus, you only make yourself look foolish.


No, I don't know where in the Bible it says that the Holy Spirit justifies. Apparently you don't either.
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