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« on: August 10, 2009, 05:49:17 PM »

 I feel led to take it, what is it good for?
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« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2009, 07:44:47 PM »

you feel led to take it without knowing anything about it?
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« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2009, 08:41:33 PM »

 yes I do.
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« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2009, 11:12:55 PM »

So many things - off the top of my head without looking it up -heart comes to mind, mental clarity,  anti-inflammatory, also.
I prefer Omega 3s - I suggested a man with gout use it and the pain was gone the very next morning.  Omega 3s is a great anti-inflammatory -which "they" are just now finding out what some others have written papers on in the 50's  --that most all problems start out with inflammation first ---cancer, heart disease -the works.

Inflamation is the enemy.
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« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2009, 01:02:58 AM »

Studying Omega 3 oils will reveal some fantastic things about nutrition they don't teach in schools.  I highly recommend the book, "The Queen of Fats."  There are other books on the subject also.

By understanding the real science behind how good the right fats are and how bad the wrong fats are, a person can make good diet decisions.

Fish oils that are Omega 3 are great.  However, like most things in the modern world, there are farmed fish products that are not a healthy product to eat and do not have high Omega 3 oils.  Chile and Norway send us farmed salmon.  Because the fish do not eat foods that make the good oils, eating the farmed fish does not give us the good nutrition that wild fish does.

Be sure to not waste money on worthless product.
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« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2009, 02:37:55 AM »

Not only that re farmed fish ---but after seeing a 20/20 special it is probably the worst food we could put into us - never ever buy fish from another country - only Wild Caught.
 And even the inspectors said they would not order fish in a restaurant - it's all farm raised.

So many horrors they showed on 20/20. Antibiotics, swimming in fecal matter...ick.

They even went so far to say that years down the road we are going to have health problems show up bec of this new food.
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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2009, 10:41:32 AM »

 Thanks guy's, I hate regular fish, even fish sticks and tuna. So the vitamins here in US, are tainted?
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« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2009, 12:30:26 PM »

Wild fish oil is available, read labels and research.

Flax oil is another great source of Omega 3.  Grass fed beef and dairy is also good, but much more difficult to find.  Vegetables, especially dark green vegetables (NOT iceberg lettuce), are a good source of Omega 3, but a person needs to eat a lot of them (which we should be anyway).


Fats are fantastic and required for healthy living.  However, it will require some study to understand good -vs- bad fats and why bad fats are so very bad. 

Grass fed beef is very good nutrition, corn fed beef is not.  We're told to eat chicken, but corn fed chicken is about as bad a food as can be purchased, but natural chickens eating grass and bugs is about as good a food as can be had.  The same with eggs and milk.

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« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2009, 01:51:43 PM »

Ahh, and why are corn fed animals so bad?

One major reason is that there is not a silo in North America that is not infested with mold. I've heard from a nutritionist that even if you are growing organic corn the seed itself has mold in it -it is so embedded in all corn now. (He explained  -sorry it isn't more scientific from me.  Blushing)

It was mold that killed the doggies in the Northeast - their food had corn!  It is a specific mold, I have it written down somewhere---it's only in corn.

Cattle's natural food are grasses on the plains. Not moldy corn weakening our immune systems.
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« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2009, 11:54:10 PM »

Well, I don't know anything about mold.

Cattle are not built to eat grains.  Their multiple stomachs are built for grass.

From a fats standpoint, almost all grains are very high in Omega 6 oils, very low in Omega 3 oils.  The fat the cattle produce from such feed is an unhealthy fat for us to eat.  In this sense, the popular notion of eating less red meat is probably good advice to follow.  The fat of corn or grain fed or silage fed beef not only does not contain significant Omega 3 oils (which is what is missing in the American diet), the cattle do not make CLA.  (I'm going to probably spell this wrong!)  Conjugated linoleic acid.  This is a very good and healthy fat to eat which causes the person to burn fat and build lean tissue, rather than gain fat and have problems associated with corn fed beef.

Cattle fed corn or grain have an upset digestive system.  I once lost a heifer I bought that was being fed corn and tried to get her to eat grass.  I was ignorant as to the affects of grain on the cattle as I had never heavily grained any cattle.  800 pound heifer, dead.  What a shame.

Corn feeding causes a highly acidic condition in the cattle which makes a perfect host for bacterial and viral infections.  Needing to use antibiotics is almost a given when feeding corn.  The cattle are sick.  You're eating sick cattle.

Basically all corn grown in the US for commercial (including human) production is hybrid corn.  Hybrid corn cannot reproduce because it cannot draw out of the soil proper nutrition to make a viable seed.  Anything that eats hybrid product is malnourished.  Rats will die if fed only hybrid corn and water.  While every strain of hybrid corn has its own list of minerals  it is not able to take up from the soil, all strains of hybrid corn have in common the inability to take up cobalt, which is the basis for Vitamin B.  No hybrid corn has any vitamin B.

So, we come to the same problem for chickens.  Chickens, whether commercial or raised by the neighbor with "chicken feed" are fed grain, not grass and bugs.  This is also what makes chicken such a problem with carrying disease, people needing to really clean the counter tops, massive use of antibiotics needed.  Fed grains, they are a very dirty bird and have one of the lowest concentration of healthy fats.  The modern mantra to eat more white meat is misguiding.  Commercial chicken is worse for human consumption than feed lot beef.

The same goes for the reason commercial milk is pasteurized... the cattle are very often sick because of their feed and care.

However.... properly fed animals are healthy and healthy to eat.  Grass fed dairy cattle produce safe and healthy milk and milk products such as butter and cheese.  Imagine, butter that is actually good for you and won't cause fat gain!  Eat beef without guilt knowing it is actually GOOD for you!  And the first time you eat a real grass and bug fed chicken, you'll think you went to paradise!!  Oh yes, grass and bug chicken fat is fantastic flavoring and, of course, not harmful like the normal stuff in the store.

The only problem is education and limited availability of quality products.

BTW:  Farmed fish from Chile and Argentina and many other sources are fed corn and grains and various wastes.  Their actual meat color is gray, died red (salmon) for market appeal.  That is why they are a total waste of the family food dollar.  Want sick kids?  Feed farmed fish.

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« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2009, 10:35:49 AM »

That is the most informative post I have ever read.
I will be printing it and giving it to friends.
I had no idea!!

Mr. J -someone recently asked a question about vegetarianism in Gen Disc.

If possible I'd love it if you found the topic a couple pages back and copy and pasted this post there.   You and I both know not many come to this fish oil topic.

People need to know this, imo.   You don't have to, of course.  :)
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« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2009, 01:46:42 PM »

lightshineon, you don't have to worry about the Omega 3 oil being fishy.  As has been noted, you can get it from flax seed and other sources.  And even if you get it from good quality wild-caught deep sea cold water fish -- if it's sealed up in a gelatine capsule you won't taste it.

If we had the time and space and money, we could all raise up our own meat animals in a more natural way.  Unfortunately, it's not going to happen for most of us.  So we're left with research and with trying our best.  That's all we can do, try to find the best foods.
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« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2009, 04:27:19 PM »

lightshineon, you don't have to worry about the Omega 3 oil being fishy.  As has been noted, you can get it from flax seed and other sources.  And even if you get it from good quality wild-caught deep sea cold water fish -- if it's sealed up in a gelatine capsule you won't taste it.

If we had the time and space and money, we could all raise up our own meat animals in a more natural way.  Unfortunately, it's not going to happen for most of us.  So we're left with research and with trying our best.  That's all we can do, try to find the best foods.

 Yes, thankyou, my goal is trying to eat more healthy, be more healthy. A balanced diet besides ricecakes (LOL)
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« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2009, 06:17:38 PM »

After this healthcare thing goes through, we will all be eating soylent green.
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« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2009, 06:59:30 PM »

Flax is not nearly as good for Omega 3 as high quality fish oil because of the conversion process in our body. Once our bodies convert the Flax Omega 3 to what it usable for us we get very, very little. But Omega 3 fish oil doesn't require conversion.

I started taking Omega 3 Fish Oil (Carlson's brand which is straight from the ocean) close to a year ago and it helped my aching knees and an old back injury I had. Medical research says it's extremely good for the body's heart, eyes and brain.
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