Feministic Commericials and Media

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I've complained about this for some time and heard a radio DJ talk about it this morning. I'm wondering if anyone else can see this as plainly as I.

In commercials now days, men are presented as total idiots. They are mocked and presented as the one who doesn't get it. The female is most always presented as the brilliant, enlightened one who has to explain to the "dumb male" what product is more advanced and smarter.

And if you look at sitcoms (Everybody Loves Raymond, King of Queens, etc.)  the smart, enlightened woman often calls the man "idiot!" and he is always bumbling around, making goofy mistakes and making a total buffoon of himself.

It's with both commercials and sitcoms--pretty much anything on TV. My wife disagreed with me with I first began complaining about it to her. But after we counted the number of commercials one night where the guy was the unenlightened idiot and took note of how Debra treated Raymond...well...she admitted it was obvious. We've done other such experiments with the exact same result. When she put herself in my shoes she actually told me how sorry she was that society had become so anti-male.

And if it was flipped, I imagine that Hillary Clinton and the N.O.W. gang would be holding press conferences and buying commercial space to complain about it.

Has anyone else noticed this?!

Lee

[ConnieLard]

What I've noticed about sitcoms is that everyone is so mean to each other.  For instance, in "Everybody Loves Raymond", though Raymond is portrayed as insensitive and rather bumbling, his wife Deborah is a nagging shrew.  It seems to be pretty much the same in other shows of this ilk.  I just don't watch them any more.

I haven't noticed the commercials being the way you described, maybe because I haven't been looking for it.  I'll have to be more observant.

[Mere Nick]

I've complained about this for some time and heard a radio DJ talk about it this morning. I'm wondering if anyone else can see this as plainly as I.

In commercials now days, men are presented as total idiots. They are mocked and presented as the one who doesn't get it. The female is most always presented as the brilliant, enlightened one who has to explain to the "dumb male" what product is more advanced and smarter.

And if you look at sitcoms (Everybody Loves Raymond, King of Queens, etc.)  the smart, enlightened woman often calls the man "idiot!" and he is always bumbling around, making goofy mistakes and making a total buffoon of himself.

It's with both commercials and sitcoms--pretty much anything on TV. My wife disagreed with me with I first began complaining about it to her. But after we counted the number of commercials one night where the guy was the unenlightened idiot and took note of how Debra treated Raymond...well...she admitted it was obvious. We've done other such experiments with the exact same result. When she put herself in my shoes she actually told me how sorry she was that society had become so anti-male.

And if it was flipped, I imagine that Hillary Clinton and the N.O.W. gang would be holding press conferences and buying commercial space to complain about it.

Has anyone else noticed this?!

Lee

In country music the guys are the bad ones, too.

My guess is that since women do most all of the shopping, they are going to be the ones portrayed favorably.  

However, I do hear some ads where the woman is the dumb one.

Why someone needs to be the dumb one, though, escapes me.

[Nevertheless]

Then there are the "natural male enhancement" commercials where everyone looks like an idiot . . .

[Perry from the COCN Board]

I've noticed it and everytime I mention it to someone I get called a woman hater.  A woman hater for just seeing the obvious.

Perry

[boringoldguy]

First of all,  commercials appeal to us at a pretty low level.
Second,  every commercial is aimed at a specific target audience.
Most commercials are aimed at women because for most products,  it's women who are going to be buying the product.

So,  the advertisers are trying to sell a product to women,  and they're trying to do it by appealing to their baser instincts.

No surprise.   Just turn off the tube.   You'll be happier and have more money.

[Mere Nick]

What I've noticed about sitcoms is that everyone is so mean to each other.

Another reason that the Andy Griffith Show is so awesome.

In Mayberry they look out for each other.

[James.]

Bog, this is not just to tweak your beak, so be nice. :;):

But...James Dobson actually did write a pretty good analysis of this phenomenon in "Bringing Up Boys".

[tidbit]

What I've noticed about sitcoms is that everyone is so mean to each other.

Another reason that the Andy Griffith Show is so awesome.

In Mayberry they look out for each other.[/color]

Andy Griffith's approach to 'family violence' would receive howls of disapproval from the feminists today, but it is still one of my favorite episodes:

"Good mornin', dear."

"Mornin', honey."

[WileyClarkson]

I don't watch sit-coms.  While some are extremly funny and really relate to life in general, I don't like shows that make others or call others idiots, etc, regardless of gender or put an enphasis on sexual content, especially the free sex-sleep with anyone attitude that seems to exist in many of these shows.

I have seen this particular trait (the male idiot) on sit-coms that my wife and kids have watched and I have seen it in commercials, just not quite as in-your-face as many of the sit-coms.  One has to remember that most sit-coms and commercials will play to what is "politically correct" at the time, whether it is openly putting men down, putting women down, race, sexuality, etc.  It is driven by the bottom line dollar profits, just like any other commercial enterprise.  Even "Home Improvements", which actually had more life reality in it than most sit-coms (and was a good "clean" show) had the male put-downs.  However, in their favor, any wife with a husband who is true handy-man/do-it-yourselfer/own every tool on the market as soon as it comes out/I can do it cheaper than the pro's attitude can probably relate to many of the situations that were in the show, and that show did build into the script some good moral values/lessons.

It has described me and my wife to a Tee many times :doh:   :help:

[tidbit]

BOG wrote:

No surprise.   Just turn off the tube.   You'll be happier and have more money.

I heard the other day (on the radio, btw) that a study concluded that people spend an average of $8 more per hour of television watched.

I have finally found the solution to this stuff in my household.  My wife got me a TiVo for Christmas, and now we pick the shows we watch.  We have two shows that we watch regularly--'Survivor' and 'The Amazing Race'.  (Used to watch '24' also, but it got cheesy in a hurry.)  We TiVo both programs and watch them on our schedule--after the kids are in bed--and we fast forward through the commercials.  My life is much better, the kids are better-behaved, and I spend more time on the important things:  trolling the Grace-Centered Message Board!  Thank you, TiVo.[/color]

[James.]

So was ENTP your alter-ego?

[tidbit]

So was ENTP your alter-ego?

I didn't mean trolling in the bad way, ha.  I usually have to surf the web fully clothed.   :blush:

[James.]

On behalf of everyone here....thank you. :)

[david johnson]

does anyone here really believe ANY of the stuff they watch on tv??...other than the x-files?  they're probably for real :headscratch:

dj