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Christian Women Forum / Re: Long Term Relationship Break up- My Story
« Last post by Jean74 on Yesterday at 11:43:18 PM »
Praying for you my friend. As that you lean on the Lord. And get back right with God. As when you ask for forgiveness and repent of your sins. And get back with God. And let Him guide your will and way and to make things right with people, from family and friends. Give it all to the Lord. All things will fall into place for you.
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Theology Forum / Re: Can animals goto heaven?
« Last post by AVZ on Yesterday at 11:20:25 PM »
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"In fact, even the hairs on your head are all numbered. Do not be afraid; you are more valuable than many sparrows."

Most  definitely man is the highest animal on the earth. We are at the top of the food chain and its because of Gods will.

Yes that is of course true. However we are all part of Gods creation.

Yes that is correct, but it is not the question at hand.
The debate is if humans are animals.
And in this specific scenario, if the only thing that divides humans from animals is the fact that humans have a choice.
In other words...if cows would have a choice, they too would be human.

The creation story teaches us something completely opposite.

A) Mankind was created on a separate day
B) Mankind was created in the image of God
C) Animals and their life were created out of nothing
D) Mankind was created (formed) from the dust of the earth
E) Mankind received life from the breath of God

Only two forms of life received the opportunity to fall: angels and humans.
Angels rebelled against God and were thrown out of heaven. They never received the opportunity to be redeemed and saved to return to heaven, even though they believe in Christ.
Humans fell, and God sent Jesus in human form to earth to redeem humans as long as they believe in Christ.

The human body cannot be redeemed. The human soul is saved, and it will receive a new body when it enters heaven.
The body of animals are equally tainted with sin and cannot be redeemed. Animals do not have a soul.
Animals, because they do not have a soul, cannot believe in Christ and are hence unredeemable.

To say that humans are animals because we pee, poop, eat and sleep the same is a fallacy.
Plants also dispose of waste material, feed and know periods of inactivity...that doesn't mean that humans are vegetables.
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Theology Forum / Re: Can animals goto heaven?
« Last post by Free Christian on Yesterday at 11:01:35 PM »
The use of the word "creature" does not imply animals as some think it does. The word creature is used in other places too like Colossians 1 v 23 and  2 Corinthians 5 v 17 as well as Mark 16 v 15, Galatians 6 v 15 and some others. Take Colossians 1 v 23, is Christ preached to all the animals in the world, cats, dogs, lizards and so on?
Ecclesiastes 3 v 21 tells us clearly the difference.
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End Times Forum / Re: Living in the end times?
« Last post by Consumingfire on Yesterday at 10:36:59 PM »
What are you talking about John?
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More money in the boys scouts than the offender. Lawyer probably got over 2 mil for doing the job.
 

Yes its sad though as it is a charity of sorts that does such good work. I will never understand why getting lots of money is the right way forward if something bad has happened to you. ::shrug:: 
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Theology Forum / Re: Can animals goto heaven?
« Last post by chosenone on Yesterday at 10:23:32 PM »
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"In fact, even the hairs on your head are all numbered. Do not be afraid; you are more valuable than many sparrows."

Most  definitely man is the highest animal on the earth. We are at the top of the food chain and its because of Gods will.

Yes that is of course true. However we are all part of Gods creation.
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Theology Forum / Re: Can animals goto heaven?
« Last post by chosenone on Yesterday at 10:22:42 PM »
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They just do it anyway because it amuses them

We have six barn cats and I have observed them many times "playing" with smaller animals such as mice, rabbits, squirrels, moles, lizards, birds,  ect.... They tourture, maim , kill and sometimes eat their playmates.

However, I have never seen them amused by smiling or laughing about it. They are only honing their hunting skills thats required for their survival- it's only in their nature of how God made them.
 

Exactly. Men know what they are doing and that they are causing pain and torture and yet do it anyway. I will never understand it. ::shrug::
  I have only had one cat(I am a dog person) and I rescued birds from him a few times as a child.  ::smile::
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Theology Forum / Re: Can animals goto heaven?
« Last post by Jd34 on Yesterday at 09:49:05 PM »
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"In fact, even the hairs on your head are all numbered. Do not be afraid; you are more valuable than many sparrows."

Most  definitely man is the highest animal on the earth. We are at the top of the food chain and its because of Gods will.

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Theology Forum / Re: One Can Fall From Grace, Be Disqualified, Fall Short
« Last post by skeeter on Yesterday at 09:34:11 PM »
skeeter,

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Then why are you continually harping on here about SS?  Do you know the difference between SS and OSAS?  Just because they both have 2 S's doesn't make them the same.
Since you agree with both maybe you can exercise that authority of scripture to which all of you are asserting but cannot prove by showing how scripture has authority and can prove OSAS is scriptural?
you can't prove that  God's word is given to us  outside of the Bible.

why should ANYONE on here answer your questions?  you don't answer any questions others ask you.

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Christian Politics Forum / Re: Who do we blame now?
« Last post by crowcamp on Yesterday at 09:24:23 PM »
I like it. A replacement party. Of course, the Repubs and Dems aren't going to just go away, so it would be a third party.

I'd think that would start with a clear and specifically drafted platform addressing any and all issues. Follow up with a clear and specific plan on how it would be accomplished and maintained. Heavy emphasis on what is to be gained and heavier emphasis on appealing to a new national pride.

The hard (maybe impossible) part would be the money. Those with the bucks have gotten said bucks in the current environment. Why would they want to change anything when it's working for them just the way it is?

As for us peons, I think the discussion should be on the platform first. Fair minded folks fed up with today might be interested in a new avenue to at least consider. We should be smart enough to come up with at least the basics, I would think.

And no worries. I'm just here to trade thoughts and consider possibilities. I don't necessarily hold out hope that it will actually lead anywhere, but good, positive change has begun from some pretty humble locations in the past, so why not here?
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