Again, can you show me in the New Covenant that God sends sickness to teach us a lesson?
Why do you think a lesson taught means something bad? Everything we face has a lesson in it.
James tells us to count it all joy when we face trials of every kind. You don't believe illness can be included in that, but I think there isn't much greater a trial than facing your own mortality.
Whatever we rely on that keeps our heart fully sold out to God, He, if He sees fit, can remove. He doesn't want us to worship idols, and we can make them out of just about anything.
Jesus died not just that we could have eternal life but have it more abundantly...we are under a better covenant, right?
You have yet to explain why healing is in the atonement, and yet you say we can not be healed/or that he denies healing to some? Same as saying he will deny some to be saved, right?
There was healing in looking at the brass snake! Was there any sickness in the wilderness that He would not heal?
I am speaking of scriptures to show this.
I know God's ways are higher than ours...but I would never put sickness on one of my children, would you?
But, God isn't just a fluffy teddy bear. He sometimes tests our faith, grace.
What person on this planet wouldn't want healing? None of us want to lose someone we love! NONE! Its our will that illness be wiped off the face of the earth, because illness hurts and its scary and it robs us of loved ones. I understand wanting to believe that God will not allow it, will always heal it, etc...
but He is not us. Not even a little bit. He is higher, and greater and sees things with far greater distance than we do.
So you can not show me in the New covenant where God put sickness on people?!?
Even in speaking of the patience of Job...He healed him, right?
If you go on down in James He tells us to go to the elders for prayer... and what prayer is it that saves the sick?
You keep telling me it is God's will and there is no difference...But His Word tells us in James and Mark 16 to lay hands on the sick and they will recover.
I am not saying that we will never get sick...but He is our healer!
I never said God was a fluffy teddy bear...but He is not for child abuse either! If you were able to put a sickness on one of your children today...wouldn't they accuse you of child abuse? But you are wanting me to believe my heavenly Father would do that to me. He draws us through love doesn't he?
We are just going to have to disagree on this one MeMyself! Because His word contradicts what you are telling me.
Healing is part of the New Covenant!
Don't dodge these questions...just answer them honestly yes or no....
1. Is physical healing part of the atonement?
2. Does he tell us to pray for and go to others to pray for us...and we will recover from illness?
3. All through the gospels Jesus performed more healing than any other miracle, right?
4. When the woman with the issue of blood touched his garment for healing...was it her faith that healed her?
5. God is committed to a blood covenant and that covenant operates by faith, right?
6. When you were saved, did you ask God if it was His will before you were saved...or did you know it was his will?
Matthew 8:17, Isaiah 53:5, 1 Peter2:24 (notice the change of tense in Peter...ye WERE healed, right?) Our healing occurred at the cross (just like salvation). When we enter into the blood covenant by faith...we receive, right?
My conclusion is that you can not make divine healing conditional upon God's will when He has already told us plainly what His will is. He wants us to walk in healing!