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End Times Forum / Re: That Great City, mystery Babylon
« Last post by LaSpino3 on Today at 06:49:45 AM »
Whitestone, the dispersion of the Jews after 70 A.D. was the punishment inflicted upon them by God for putting to death their Messiah. But in the end days, He promised to gather them back to their land, this began in earnest in 1948.

From that point on, God's promise to them is as follows,

Deut.30:4-5, A prophecy for the Jews, "If any of thine = (the Jews) be driven out (from their land) from thence (there) will the LORD thy God gather thee, and from thence (there) will He fetch thee: And the LORD thy God will bring thee into the land which thy fathers possessed = (Israel), and thou shalt possess it; and He will do thee good, and multiply thee above thy fathers."

Ez.37:21-28, "Thus saith the LORD God; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen = (nations) whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land (1948 to this day): I will make them one nation (we call it Israel today) they all shall have one shepherd = (future prophesy yet to be fulfilled) they shall also walk in my (God’s) judgments, and observe my statutes ... I = (God) will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant ... And the nations shall know that I the LORD do sanctify Israel, when my sanctuary shall be in the midst of them for evermore." That sanctuary is Jesus Himself.

Isa.11:10-16, It shall come to pass, the Lord, "shall set His hand again the second time to recover the remnant of His people, which shall be left ... and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth."

Most of the population in Israel lives in Jerusalem. So what you're saying is, the Lord is gathering them so He can zap them all at once. Not so, that does not line up with the verses quoted, and with many other verses besides these, and we all know God is not a liar or deceiver. 

So forget Jerusalem, his enemies are the Muslims, and those who have twisted the gospel left to us. 

Phil LaSpino
Yes Christ has Come.

 Is Christ bodily coming again FOR YOU?

Have you left behind the earthly pleasures and desires? Are you spending all your spare time with the Lord?

Not to the degree that Jesus did.  Thank God for HIM. We all struggle with our earthly, fleshly, desires, some more, some less, but all do.

Christ is coming in His body.   I praise my Lord for that.

As to struggle with earthly , fleshly desires, that we  " all"  struggle with.....

I appreciate your honestly that you struggle with this, but you can only speak for yourself, not for "all".

Scripture does not teach this....

Galatians 5, 24-25
And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.
If we live by the Spirit, let us also walk by the Spirit.

1 Peter 4, 1-2
Since therefore Christ suffered in the flesh, arm yourselves with the same thought, for whoever has
suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin;  so as to live for the rest of the time in the flesh no longer
by human passions but by the will of God.
Hi Brimariee,
 I pray God's presence and guidance for the surgeons and other medical techs and all those involved with her care, and for a good outcome to the surgery. In Jesus Holy Name. Amen.

 This is a great quote:

I am not alone at all, I thought. I was never alone at all. And that, of course, is the message of Christmas. We are never alone. Not when the night is darkest, the wind coldest, the world seemingly most indifferent. For this is still the time God chooses.
-Taylor Caldwell

Theology Forum / Re: Grace Alone Cannot Save You - Wake up, people
« Last post by doorknocker on Today at 06:18:44 AM »
I have not disappeared,  but some things are not worth responding to.

To say that the Apostles learned the gospel from Paul is just....well...

Christ taught His disciples well as it is evidenced In Acts 2 where Peter preached Christ crucified

and raised from the dead, the result 3000 souls were saved,  let me ask you this, was that the wrong gospel?

John 16,  13-14
When the Spirit of Truth comes, He will guide you into all the Truth;  for He will not speak on His own authority,

but whatever He hears He will speak, and He will declare to you the things that are to come.

He will glorify Me, for He will take what is Mine and declare it to you.

Let me ask you this Skeeter, did the apostles get their gospel from Paul?

Or from the Lord and His Spirit of Truth which they were baptized with?

Thank you

And please, if they got the gospel from Paul, please be so kind as to show the scriptures that point that out.
I see. you insult grams about her post then you just never respond about it... why is that?  If you think she's wrong,  post scripture to support it, if you can.

what 'gospel'  did the Apostles 'teach'  in Matt - John?  did they teach salvation by the death and resurrection of Christ?  Did Paul?

you can do a word search on 'death and resurrection' using biblegateway same as I can.  See what comes up in Matt - John.  Then see what comes up in letters by Paul.

in Acts they mention  Him crucified - because He had been.  The verses I find in Acts aren't telling about salvation thru His death and resurrection.

when you check it all out, you need to apologize to grams for what you posted.

then do a search in Matt- John on 'grace' and read what they say about grace vs what Paul says about it.

Thank you for responding. This has reinforced my resolve that some things are not worth responding to.

Have a great day!
I absolutely agree with you all, the Word Of God is truth, Jesus Christ the word of God come in the flesh, in Him there is no guile, even God when He speaks from Him like Christ comes rivers of living water, the words that they speak bring life to those who will listen. But my God is alive just as is Christ the risen Lord, who died once for the sins of mankind, who gave His life once as a ransom for many. He is my Lord. I walk with Him talk with Him give myself for Him and God is always with me, He is not deaf He is not dumb and His arms can reach me wherever I am, as David said, wherever I am there you are, there is no place in this universe where I can hide from Him. And His wisdom is beyond all understanding, if we where to fill books with the wisdom of God the universe could not contain them.

But mankind squeezed Him into one,

Arnt we so clever.

In all His Love
End Times Forum / Re: That Great City, mystery Babylon
« Last post by RB on Today at 05:20:50 AM »
I could continue... but these few verses should leave no doubt who the whore of Rev 17 was, and why she was burnt to the ground as prophecied in AD 70.

Not even close.  A child of God enlighten by the Spirit of God, could know WHO Mystery Babylon is, without ever hearing of 70 A.D. by using the scriptures only.

Those people who hold to Historical views, or Preteritism, must use extra-biblical source to push their theory, and even then, it has so many holes in that theory, that a season child of God, can easily refute.

Mystery Babylon, is two fold, both religious and this world system, both under the rule of the spirit of the devil.  Just a Israel of old apostate from God, so does the Gentiles as a body confessors do the same, both ended up as a whore by committing spiritual fornication with this world system.
Yeah it depends on what you use it for. I use computers for things that are usually only supported by windows, like games and music programs, etc. so I couldn't get too much use out of Linux.

There are ways around that. You can install WINE which is a compatibility layer; or install VMware and run a true WIN session in a virtual window. 

Yes Christ has Come.

 Is Christ bodily coming again FOR YOU?

Have you left behind the earthly pleasures and desires? Are you spending all your spare time with the Lord?

Not to the degree that Jesus did.  Thank God for HIM. We all struggle with our earthly, fleshly, desires, some more, some less, but all do. 
But I must assure you----there will be a Rapture--it is so clearly taught in the Bible that there is no way I can deny it.

Fish, YES there will be a catching UP of believers when Jesus returns again~in THAT SENSE all saints believe in a "rapture"~ and only in that sense can we teach a rapture, and be scriptural. The error, and corruption of God's truth comes when people labor to separate the rapture of believers to the Lord in the air, as he is coming back to destroy his enemies, with our bodily resurrection at the  last day! Paul in 1 Corinthians 15, clearly teaches us that the resurrection and us receiving a glorified body take place when Christ returns at the LAST TRUMP.  The last of seven recorded for us in the Revelation of Jesus Christ!  There are NO MORE trumpets after the LAST ONE SOUNDS!  Yet, the Premillennialist has several more when once the saints are resurrected to be with Christ.  You have a problem to deal with, which none of you have as of yet, when I gave my nine points early on in this thread.

whitestone said:
I think you are only corrupting your mind with that carnal futuristic trash.

I perceive that you are either a Historical, or Preterits in your eschatology~base on your words here and another post I just glanced over.  Both of those two views are wrong.  70 A.D. doctrine "as preached by many" is not much different than preaching a secret rapture theory, neither of which are in the scriptures.  Christ's coming IS YET FUTURE~and there will be a great tribulation just as Jesus said there will be, only we are NOW in the in it~and to what degree, is yet to be determined, and how long it will last is yet to be determined BY GOD.  Neither the Historical, or the Preterits accept this truth.  They both want to take much of end time teaching and stamp those scriptures: FULFILLED IN 70 A.D.! Leaving us a bible that has very much for us in our day to take heed to.
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