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Christian Politics Forum / Re: Waco shootout...
« Last post by Jaime on Yesterday at 06:07:41 PM »
Too many Baptists!  ::smile::
Theology Forum / Re: 5 Atheist Questions The Christian Can't Answer?
« Last post by Jd34 on Yesterday at 05:25:21 PM »
We set traps for ourselves all the time with questions like those. But one thing to keep in mind is that Gods ways and our ways are not the same. Gods thoughts are not our thoughts...

Isaiah 55:8

For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.

Theology Forum / Re: Rev 20:3 WHY?
« Last post by fish153 on Yesterday at 05:11:49 PM »
Star of David said----

>>>I apologize to some of you for repeating my oft-stated and consistent position, but I am using the minimum of words to defend my firm belief that Rev. 20:3 is meaningless.<<<

Professor Lexington: "Let us proceed with our reading of Revelation chapter 20...."

Professor (clears throat and begins):"And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain.   
He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a thousand years

The professor takes a sip of water, and then continues his reading:

"Now, continuing our reading, we go to verse four...."

"I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years".

Snyder: "Ex..Excuse me Professor Lexington, excuse me! But you have forgotten to read verse three sir. It has to do with..."

Professor Lexington: "Snyder, must you interrupt me once again? Star of David has informed all of us that verse three is meaningless--so what is the point of even reading that verse my boy? If Star of David says the verse is meaningless, that's good enough for me".

Snyder: "With all due respect sir, once again I must ask, who the heck is Star of David?

"He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time". (Revelation 20:3)

Is verse 3 meaningless my friends?  Hardly. It is a very valid piece of scripture.
1. Firewood.
2. He doesn't.
3. The Bible is a book.  "God's Holy Word" is not a book, but a Person.
4. Disobedience is still disobedience, even if you don't know WHY dad told you not to do it.
5. God designed Himself.

Christian Politics Forum / Re: Waco shootout...
« Last post by Johnb on Yesterday at 04:34:36 PM »
Must be something in the air or soil Waco seems to attract Wackos. ::smile::
General Discussion Forum / Re: Earning Your Living From the Gospel
« Last post by MeMyself on Yesterday at 04:28:56 PM »
It is a job for some, just like Pastoring.  They are dedicating their lives to the service of the Lord, ministering to others and God is providing their pay through their work.

There are a lot of people in this world who should not be in he position they are in. A leaders role is a calling not a job, when they demand money than it is not Christ providing and certainly not faith. They should be treading warily but they dont. If a person chooses to be a pastor because its a nice job, they are ricking the wrath of God upon themselves, for every one they lead astray they will be held accountable for. A piece of paper form mens schools doe not a pastor make. They are playing a dangerous game.

In all His love

Respectfully disagree.
General Discussion Forum / Re: Earning Your Living From the Gospel
« Last post by Johnb on Yesterday at 04:20:34 PM »
The whole thing is silly.  I attend a house church where no one is paid and we have no bills.  However, Paul said an evangelist had the right to be supported by the assembly.  As to selling "anointed music"  I have no idea how the music got anointed but one who performs and dedicates their to that has as much right to earn a living from that as anyone else.  Last time I looked God had not given us a list of "anointed music".  Why not help feed the poor visit those n jail help the hurting etc instead of worrying about silly opinions?

The real question we should be asking our self is am I the rich young ruler of Mark 10?  Do I love my things of this life more than Christ and would I walk away from Him if ask to sell all and follow Him?  When you look at the rest of the world we (most Americans) are the rich.
Theology Forum / Re: Rev 20:3 WHY?
« Last post by Star of David on Yesterday at 03:43:50 PM »
I'd be more than glad to, 4WD.

As you likely believe, John of Patmos was instructed by God to record ALL details of the bizarre vision that he had. And I think that we can all agree that John of Patmos did a pretty good job of doing that. As a result of the Church fathers deciding to include the Book of Revelation as the End Times book of the Christian Bible, the Book of Revelation has become, perhaps, the most confusing and controversial book of the Christian Bible to interpret as far as its intended meaning.  In fact, in March, 1989, with my knowledge of the fulfillment of Matthew 24:29 in 1999, I decided to open up the Book of Revelation to see what "bad" things were supposed to take place before the fulfillment of Matthew 24:29 in 1999 and I quickly stopped and became fixated on Chapter 11 of Revelation and intuitively realized that the 1,260 days mentioned in Rev. 11:3 would take place between, roughly, September, 1992 through March, 1996. And, of course, at least one of those Two Witnesses necessarily needed to be an informed Christian astronomer living at that time in March, 1989.

The following May, 1990, I was frustrated with God and I asked a very learned man a question out of great anger, "WHY......was Revelation WRITTEN??!!!"

And this man told me, "It was written for certain person(s) to interpret."

My response was, "Huh!  I wonder who it was written for?"  And my thought at the time that it was written for some kind of 'church people'.

It would be one month later, in June, 1990, when I was asked the life-changing question, "If you are this person, what are you worried about?" when I, as a result, began to once again try to make sense of the Book of Revelation. And six months later, on December 13, 1990, this Antichrist, Armageddon, Seven Years of Tribulation (1992 - 1999) scenario, which I had firmly embraced up to that point in time, began to show some serious cracks. And I began to consider that person's statement that the Book of Revelation was written for certain persons to interpret, which meant, to me, that the Book of Revelation is subject to interpretation.

And with the passage of the following 25 years, today it is very clear to me that my interpretation of Revelation makes, by far, the most sense of any interpretation that I have ever come across. But all of those apparent prophecies in Revelation, save two, that I determined to be meaningless as far as having any predictive value regarding that Last Days, DID serve the very great value of serving as 'placeholders' for ~1,900 years with the Bible (with the Book of Revelation in tow) being recorded and rerecorded down through the centuries until the Bible of Discovery landed in the hands of one of the Two Chapter 11 Witnesses in December, 1988, about 3 months before he opened it up the pages of the Book of Revelation in March, 1989.
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