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The Supreme Court used to only interpret existing law. Now we have to be concerned with a 9 person board that is content and INTENT on legislating from the bench thereby really destroying the balance of power and even using foreign precedent to interpret our constitution.

And yes, God is in control. He gave us minds to govern this 200 plus year old experiment. It may be time for a pause or a ceasing in His mind.
Theology Forum / Re: What is Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit?
« Last post by Amo on Today at 07:10:18 AM »
If you know what is true, such as keeping the Sabbath on the Seventh Day as given in the Commandments, and the Holy Spirit brings you this truth and you reject the Holy Spirit and trample what it gives you, then you are in danger of Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.

Need to think that one through..........

Sin is the condition, or state of living a lie. It is allowed by God until its true nature is fully matured and revealed in and throughout humanity as corporate body. That is until its harvest is fully matured in one generation on a global scale and thereby ready to be reaped. Concurrent to this of course, is the maturation of the harvest of God to prepare for its reaping as well. These two harvests are reaped at the same time as described in the book of Revelation chapter 14. After specific messages of truth are given to the world, and all have decided regarding these messages, both harvests will be ripe for the reaping.

While calling humanity back to remembering God’s seventh day Sabbath is part of that message, choosing to live a lie or not involves quite a bit more than this one point, fundamental as it is. No one will be lost because they are a sinner, we are all sinners, though we may choose not to sin. If we sin, “we have an advocate with the Father”, and can repent and be forgiven. It is not possible though, for those who reject truth to repent or be forgiven. Who will ever repent or seek forgiveness for that which they will not acknowledge as sin? Therefore, those who reject truth blaspheme the Holy Spirit of God. For they neither acknowledge their sin before God, nor are capable of repenting or obtaining forgiveness for it because of this condition of living a lie.

God is, and there is no other. All that exists outside of Him is a lie, and only exists as long as He allows for it in relation to saving as many as possible caught in the trap. Fundamental to all salvation then, is the acknowledgment of truth. Thus the scriptures declare the damnation of those who reject the same, because it is the equivalent of the rejection of the Holy Spirit if God who convicts the world of the truth. This is the unforgivable sin. It creates a condition which cannot be redeemed. As is obvious, those who reject the truth, are left with nothing but deception.

2 Th 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Jn 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. 8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 Of sin, because they believe not on me; 10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more; 11 Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged. 12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. 13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

Jn 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments. 16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. 18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you. 19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also. 20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you. 21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
Christian Politics Forum / Re: Will Trump blow it?
« Last post by Jaime on Today at 06:51:04 AM »
Crow, I am absolutely confident you will not vote. Electoral votes are determined on Popular vote. A state can swing. It happened in Texas and it is likely to swing again soon with demographic changes. This time around is like no other. If you prefer Hillary over Trump then own it. But that is the choice unless. If The idiot GOP mucks up their own process and steal it from trump which will absolutely guarantee Their forever demise and Hillary's victory. If you try to be neutral at the polls, see if it will translate here at the forum. Voting to me is the very minimum a citizen should do. A small small price to honor a BIG BIG price paid by a bunch a brave people.
General Discussion Forum / Re: GOD'S WORLD !
« Last post by Jd34 on Today at 06:50:22 AM »
Many people say "Christ is the Sabbath rest for all those in covenant with God in Christ", but what does that mean. '

Well lets start with what it tells us, "Remember the Sabbath day," in the Ten Commandments and it continues. "For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, but he rested on the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and made it holy" (Exodus 20:8, 11). So here the Law given to Moses sends us back to the creation of the world. The Sabbath goes back to what God did at creation.

John 1:1-3.”In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.2 The same was in the beginning with God.3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.”
Then further at verse 10 we have “He [Jesus] was in the world, and the world was made by Him, and the world knew Him not.” John 1:10

We find in Colossians,: “For by Him [Jesus] all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. Col. 1:16

Thus Jesus Christ is our Creator. The One who created the world, made the animals and birds and sea creators and Adam and Eve and rested. So we see He is our Creator there at the beginning  and He declares that the Sabbath was created or made at Creation for man.

Now keep in mind merely refraining from work is not God’s idea of Sabbath-keeping. It may be Sunday-keeping or Friday-keeping or Monday-keeping; but it is not Sabbath-keeping. It is not Sabbath-keeping, because the idea of Sabbath is spiritual rest. And the Creator set aside one day of the week for spiritual rest and He wants us to come to Him for rest. The reason why we cease from our labor on the seventh day, the Sabbath of our Lord Jesus Christ, is that we may  be free to contemplate God as manifested to us in Jesus Christ. Christ our Creator wants to commune with us, He made and gave us the gift of the Sabbath so we have a time to rest not only from our work and daily labor but to have spiritual rest in Christ on the day He made for us.

Now at the burning bush we have the identification of who gave Moses the Law. Exodus 3:13-14 “13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?14 And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you” 

Now compare John 8:56-59  “56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.59 Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.”

The New Testament also is clear that Jesus created all things, He was there at the begining. So now we begin to understand who Jesus is and what John 1:1-3 means.
“1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.2 The same was in the beginning with God.3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made..” (John 1:1-3)
“13 Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:15 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.” (Colossians 1:13-17)
“27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.” Mark 2:27-28 So we see that Jehovah, the great I AM, our Redeemer and Saviour, “ Who is the image of the invisible God”,  “the Angel in whom was the name of Jehovah,” the Lord of the Sabbath, He is the One who gave us the Sabbath and the Ten Commandments.

General Discussion Forum / Re: GOD'S WORLD !
« Last post by grams on Today at 06:38:42 AM »

Quote from: grams on June 23, 2016, 10:29:29 AM

Why would the air force be spraying  crops ?   ::eek::

Good question. Why would the Air Force be spraying anything?


          That is  what I am  asking !!!!!!!!! 
Street gang violence ... such as is a daily occurrence in Chicago... or dissatisfaction violence like in Baltimore
would not be helped by a lesser government which would include lesser police.

Non- political violence.... even looting after major disasters... would not decrease.

That being said...

I would be happy with 1/2 of what we have..... the country would be run less complicated.

I also would be a happy isolationist.
Christian Politics Forum / Re: Will Trump blow it?
« Last post by Rella on Today at 06:31:24 AM »
It's Hillary or Trump. There are no other choices. Choose wisely and vote. Nothing else to talk about. And nothing you can a oid doing that will be neutral to the result of the election. Just vote. Don't assume staying home is a neutral action because it is NOT. If Hillary is your least worst of the only two that can possibly win, then own it with a vote.

Hate to break it to ya, but what I personally do is absolutely neutral to the result of the election. In this state I can vote for Trump, or Clinton, or Mickey Mouse, or not vote at all and Trump gets the 4 electoral votes. That's about as neutral as it gets. Like one of our senators said the other day (definitely not a Trump supporter), "A sage rat named Hitler with an 'R' by their name would win the Idaho vote".

But for you, as I did in 2012, I will vote- just to show you once again how meaningless it is. If you don't have a horse in the race that can win, kinda pointless to wager on them.

I understand what you are saying but .....

You are assuming that Trump will win in your state.

However... if there are 9 people voting.....and 4 vote for Hillary, and 4 vote for Trump.... but you vote for
Donald Duck...... No one wins.

You would be the deciding vote.

That is why with SCOTUS on the line majorly...... this time.... It has to be for one or the other for Potus

Someone appears to be playing tricks in my state... PA

My mom..... a registered Republican for 50 or 60 years.... and has lived in the same house and has voted at the same location for 46 years... just received a  voter registration card that says she is registered and
this is her new voting location. Which is just exactly where we have gone for 46 years.
And yes... she voted in the primary, in May.... so it is not that it has been a long time between.
Something seems odd.

Theology Forum / Re: What is Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit?
« Last post by Hobie on Today at 06:00:37 AM »
If you know what is true, such as keeping the Sabbath on the Seventh Day as given in the Commandments, and the Holy Spirit brings you this truth and you reject the Holy Spirit and trample what it gives you, then you are in danger of Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.

Need to think that one through..........
Seventh Day Adventist Forum / Re: Roman politics
« Last post by Amo on Today at 05:37:11 AM »
Here is another site addressing Concordats.


The following quote is from the above site, all emphasis mine.

1. Concordats are agreements between a church and a state. The Roman Catholic Church tries to make concordats with any state wherever and whenever this becomes politically possible. However, other powerful churches also enter into concordats, such as the Lutheran Church in Germany and the Orthodox Church in Georgia and if a future concordat is signed between the Vatican and the Czech Republic, even the Seventh Day Adventists have said that they want one, too. [1]

As a Seventh Day Adventist, I do not agree with my denomination seeking accords with the governments of this world at all. It is my conviction that denominations which seek the power, approval, or support of the state, do so because they have or are in the process of losing the power of the Holy Spirit of God. While I intend to look into the matter, I would appreciate any input from anyone who has any information regarding the highlighted claim in the above quote.
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