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The Christian landman is at the apex of intelligence. I can say without reservation Christ's return will occur after August 22, 2016. So I have written, so it shall be done.
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Star, I don't believe in the end times scenario like some here do either, but it has nothing to do with astronomy or the lack thereof. The pre-Trib scenario popularized by the Left Behind books is not scriptural in my opinion. And whether the meteors fell in 1999 or 1899 or any other year does not matter to the truth that Jesus is coming soon.

I hope that you realize, Jaime, that you're actually saying that Christ was not truthful when He said in Luke 21:25a, "There will be signs in the sun, the moon, and the stars........."
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Star, I don't believe in the end times scenario like some here do either, but it has nothing to do with astronomy or the lack thereof. The pre-Trib scenario popularized by the Left Behind books is not scriptural in my opinion. And whether the meteors fell in 1999 or 1899 or any other year does not matter to the truth that Jesus is coming soon.

The Christian engineer is superior to the Christian astronomer.  I can definitively state that the Lord will return sometime after 2015.  The astronomer says 1999.  That is way in the past.   ::eatingpopcorn:
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You know, everyone, at one time, I thought that it was really difficult for me to live in a world of nearly all non-astronomers. Since the mid-1990s, however, it is just very amusing to me.

Why is that?

You would need to be a Christian astronomer living at this time to be able to understand why this is, MeMyself.

I don't think so...my question is why its very amusing to you?

There are many reasons for me to be justified in being amused as a Christian astronomer living today. I assume that all members of this Internet board call themselves followers of Christ, and yet, at the same time, everyone here (besides myself) see Christ's statements recorded in Luke 21:25a & Matthew 24:29-30a as being utterly meaningless. But that is really no big surprise to me as over 99% of the general population has little or no basic knowledge of astronomy.

Does that answer your question? It does, but you probably cannot understand my answer, again, because you're not an astronomer, MeMyself.


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Star, I don't believe in the end times scenario like some here do either, but it has nothing to do with astronomy or the lack thereof. The pre-Trib scenario popularized by the Left Behind books is not scriptural in my opinion. And whether the meteors fell in 1999 or 1899 or any other year does not matter to the truth that Jesus is coming soon. The pre-Trib thought is really fairly recent. Most of church history, this was foreign. You ain't the blind hog that found the acorn. The real blind folks just have gotten louder and louder over the past few decades.
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After Christ returns, you shall all see that I will be borne out by Him to be correct. Be patient, my doubters.

When John the Baptist was heralding Christ's First Coming, no doubt many did not believe him at that time, particularly the 'high society' Jewish people who looked down their noses at the common man.

I am just glad to know that I have Christ's astronomy-based instructions recorded in Luke 21:25a & Matthew 24:29-30a to wrap around myself for assurance that I am correct. And by virtue of my living at the right time, my deriving the fulfillment of Matthew 24:29 in 1999 was quite actually Child's Play for me to do.


John the Baptist was leading people to repentance, he was offering people a new chance, not by following him but by following God. You OTOH are simply lording over people with nothing to offer or even substantiate your claims other than your prideful rhetoric of "I'm right and you're wrong, just because I say so".


There is no astronomy necessary here, you are completely off kilter.

Those who believe that there will be this Antichrist, Armageddon, Seven Years of Tribulation, Rapture, Mark of the Beast, '666' scenario prior to Christ's return are the ones who will shown to be deceived. I can easily promise you that, Alan.


As I have shared on End Times prophecy boards a few times for the past 10 years:
 
I express a decidedly minority view here, but it's been my firm expectation since 1992 that history will repeat itself regarding the fulfillment of prophecy from a holy book:  It is my understanding that 2000 years ago in Israel, the Jewish religious authorities believed that the Messiah promised to come spoken of in their holy book (what Christians now refer to as the Old Testament) would come as a powerful Jewish warrior who would liberate Israel from the domination of Rome's rule over them. Instead, Christian today believe that this Jewish Messiah came in the form of Jesus as a Sacrificial Lamb who died for the sins of all mankind by dying on the cross.

Fast forward to today, and tens of millions of Christians are told by so-called End Times prophecy "experts" to expect God to unleash His wrath for a seven year period of time, complete with an evil Antichrist who will rule the world, etc., etc.  It is my understanding that Internet discussion boards are also set up so that these End Times prophecy enthusiasts can discuss these things that will never actually come to pass.

 But once again, today's prophecy "experts" will be shown to be wrong (as their counterparts of 2000 years ago were shown to be) when Jesus returns to a world very much like the one that we inhabit today, with no Antichrist, Armageddon, Seven Years of Tribulation, Rapture, etc., etc.


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I agree Alan. No astronomy necessary to confirm what we already believe. Christ is coming back very soon. It would be similar to someone haughtily coming here and saying. I know something you don't know. Jesus Christ is the son of God.
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You didnt answer my question. Are you on medication and are you still under the doctors?

Well, chosenone, you haven't answer my previous questions, which were:


Just out of curiosity, chosenone, prior to your and my "meeting" each other, honestly tell me how much thought you had previously given to Luke 21:25a & Matthew 24:29-30a?

 And you probably still haven't given any serious thought to these instructions from Christ, obviously intended for the Last Generation of Christian astronomers, have you?



You know, everyone, at one time, I thought that it was really difficult for me to live in a world of nearly all non-astronomers. Since the mid-1990s, however, it is just very amusing to me.


Are you on medication, what is your diagnosis, and are you still seeing doctors for you condition? Its not a hard question.

Neither are mine.


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Churches of Christ Forum / Re: The Lord's Supper
« Last post by Jaime on Today at 12:28:02 PM »
jamie the point on the day is not worth the effort and can't be proven either way.


I hear ya. My only reason to keep harping is that this verse is NOT a good prooftext for Sunday anything in my opinion.

I don't see any validity in those who defend NOT taking it every time we gather (Saturday, Sunday or whatever day) because what is the point of gathering as Christians if not to commemorate the death, burial and resurrection of Christ? No one thinks praying, singing, and preaching the word gets stale with regular repetition, why communion? No one is going to hell over it, but I just think it's easier and more reasonable to justify doing every time we meet rather than rationalizing why we wouldn't do it.   
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Churches of Christ Forum / Re: The Lord's Supper
« Last post by mommydi on Today at 11:21:58 AM »
Snargles said
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Nothing like building a whole doctrine around 5 verses that can be taken several different ways.

Well, maybe it is easy if it is early in a movement and you are loud and pushy.

Yep, that's it. +1
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