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Theology Forum / Re: An important question for today in our society
« Last post by th1b.taylor on Today at 07:33:25 AM »
"Nuter copper huh?
I served 22.5 years before being disabled with broken back #4.
3 concussion, both hands broken, 3 gun fights, poisoned in chemical fires,................................
ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww.
I'm glad your home, have you gotten your belly full of the "Thank you for your service freaks yet?"  It took until, just, recently for me not to embarrass them, not a godly thing to do but very hard to resist.  Yeah I was a senior crew-chief in 'Nam and did thirty months there.  I served eight before I grew sick of seeing those kids give their lives while LBJ everything back to them so we could go loose more good Soldiers.

It's good to meet another nut that flew with no hope of a parachute.  And did you know that Helicopters do not fly?  They're just so ugly the Earth repels them.
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The nation, jn who's service I flew and lost so many of my men to, kids really is in the middle of deep, deep, manure.  Ic knew we were in trouble when the liar, LBJ, micromanaged the war and he kept giving the territories gained right back to Papa Ho.  And when I got out of that taxi at the Frisco airport and a Hippie spit on my forehead as I was placing my Cover, I knew then that my nation had gone crazy.

It has not gotten any better, today!  It has all been prophecied and he that will read the Word of God through, to study has it revealed to him.
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The Roman Coliseum was one of the main centers for entertainment and, on this day, it was not gladiators or sports competitions, but a different type of crown was being competed for. Rows upon rows of circular seating, with humanity throbbing inside. Fifty thousand faces fixed their attention on the scene below. The noise at times was deafening with cheers of the crowd, anticipating what was to come. To whet the appetites of the onlooking romans, gladiators were sent out to fight. Then wild animals who were starved were released, and a skillful gladiator would kill each one. But all of this is just to prepare the crowd for the main event and attraction. It was the Christians that were competing today for a heavenly crown following the way of Christ in the noble way of martyrdom.

What happens next, The Martyr of the Catacombs, details the sad scene well for us:

“An old man entered upon the scene. His form was bowed, and his hair silver white with extreme old age. His appearance was hailed with shouts of derision, although his majestic face and dignified manner were only calculated to excite admiration. As the shouts of laughter and yells of derision came down to his ears he raised his head and uttered a few words.

“A loud outburst of yells and execrations from the fierce mob drowned his voice. Before it was over three panthers came bounding toward him. He folded his arms, and looking up to heaven, his lips moved as if murmuring prayers. The savage beasts fell upon him as he stood, and in a few minutes he was torn in pieces. “Other wild animals were now let in. Into the midst of this a helpless band of prisoners were rudely thrust. They were chiefly young girls, who were thus sacrificed to the bloodthirsty passions of the savage Roman mob. The sight would have moved to pity any heart in which all soft feelings had not been blighted. But pity had no place in Rome.

Cowering and fearful, the poor young maidens showed the weakness of human nature when just confronted with death in so terrible a form, but after a few moments faith resumed its power, and raised them above all fear. As the beasts became aware of the presence of their prey and began to draw near, these young maidens joined hands, and raising their eyes to heaven, sang out a solemn chant which rose clear and wondrously sweet upward to heaven: “Unto Him that loved us, To Him that washed us from our sins. In his own blood; To Him that made us kings and priests, To God and the Father; To Him be glory and dominion Forever and ever. Hallelujah. Amen!”

“One by one the voices were hushed in blood, and agony, and death; one by one the shrieks of anguish were mingled with the shouts of praise; and these fair young spirits, so heroic under suffering and faithful unto death, had carried their song to join it with the psalm of the redeemed on high.”


This is an excerpt from the free Christian ebook, The Following of Christ by Greg Gordon
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LOL. a little closer and I would go with you....

I love to support good causes like this.


Rella, I do believe we'd have a blast if we lived near one another. (((Rella)))





I am sure we would.... ::giggle::
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What I found most interesting is that he identified himself as an AstroBiologist;  as if there was actually a scientific field of astrobiology.  After all, no such thing has ever been identified or ever shown to exist.
https://www.britannica.com/science/astrobiology
WRITTEN BY: Seth Shostak
LAST UPDATED: 3-16-2012

Astrobiology, also called exobiology or xenobiology, a multidisciplinary field dealing with the nature, existence, and search for extraterrestrial life (life beyond Earth). Astrobiology encompasses areas of biology, astronomy, and geology.

Although no compelling evidence of extraterrestrial life has yet been found, the possibility that biota might be a common feature of the universe has been strengthened by the discovery of extrasolar planets (planets around other stars), by the strong suspicion that several moons of Jupiter and Saturn might have vast reserves of liquid water, and by the existence of microorganisms called extremophiles that are tolerant of environmental extremes. The first development indicates that habitats for life may be numerous. The second suggests that even in the solar system there may be other worlds on which life evolved. The third suggests that life can arise under a wide range of conditions. The principal areas of astrobiology research can be classified as (1) understanding the conditions under which life can arise, (2) looking for habitable worlds, and (3) searching for evidence of life.

Well as I said, with all the knowledge and facilities available to the scientific community thinking what might happen spontaneously that can't be produced or that has never been observed here on earth, the prize of the prize with respect the possibility of spontaneously generated life, is nothing short of foolish.  And to invent an entire field of study devoted to it seems even sillier.  They are looking for spontaneously generated life on another planet and they have never seen it here.  They think or want to say that life here on earth was spontaneously generated but they have no evidence of that whatsoever.
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Prayer Requests Online and Praise Reports / Re: Pray for my daughter
« Last post by chosenone on Today at 06:21:06 AM »
Sometimes children want to be independant and move away from parents, and that is a good thing. It helps them mature and learn about life.
I have a friend whose daughter lives in SA and I have a step-son in OZ, another friend whose daughter lives in the USA(we are British).

Be thankful that you bought her up well, to be independant and self sufficient. She wants to make her own way in life and that's positive.
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Theology Forum / Re: What is death?
« Last post by Michael2012 on Today at 06:16:28 AM »
Once again you are mixing and matching physical death, spiritual death and eternal death.  You need to begin again and deal with each separately.

4WD,

This thread is anything about death, in the context of scriptures. You can cite scriptures that speak about death and tell what it tells you about what death is.

You speak of physical death, spiritual death and eternal death. That's good, for they are about death. No matter how you want to call them, still they are all what death is. So, if you will be kind enough to tell us what these deaths are in the context of the Bible, that will be very much appreciated.

Thank you.
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What I found most interesting is that he identified himself as an AstroBiologist;  as if there was actually a scientific field of astrobiology.  After all, no such thing has ever been identified or ever shown to exist.
https://www.britannica.com/science/astrobiology
WRITTEN BY: Seth Shostak
LAST UPDATED: 3-16-2012

Astrobiology, also called exobiology or xenobiology, a multidisciplinary field dealing with the nature, existence, and search for extraterrestrial life (life beyond Earth). Astrobiology encompasses areas of biology, astronomy, and geology.

Although no compelling evidence of extraterrestrial life has yet been found, the possibility that biota might be a common feature of the universe has been strengthened by the discovery of extrasolar planets (planets around other stars), by the strong suspicion that several moons of Jupiter and Saturn might have vast reserves of liquid water, and by the existence of microorganisms called extremophiles that are tolerant of environmental extremes. The first development indicates that habitats for life may be numerous. The second suggests that even in the solar system there may be other worlds on which life evolved. The third suggests that life can arise under a wide range of conditions. The principal areas of astrobiology research can be classified as (1) understanding the conditions under which life can arise, (2) looking for habitable worlds, and (3) searching for evidence of life.
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Theology Forum / Re: 1 Corinthians 13:8
« Last post by NorrinRadd on Today at 06:02:49 AM »
Sorry for the delay in replying.  I'd meant to get to this days ago, but lost track of it.

Gift of tongues was a sign gift.  It was exclusively human dialects too.


Here is a passage from Acts 2:4-11:

4And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues(GLOSSAIS #1100), as the Spirit gave them utterance.

5And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven. 6Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language (DIALEKTOS #1258). 7And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans? 8And how hear we every man in our own tongue(DIALEKTOS #1258), wherein we were born? 9Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia, 10Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, Jews and proselytes, 11Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues(GLOSSAIS #1100) the wonderful works of God.

That proves that human languages were spoken.  It does not prove ONLY human languages were spoken.

Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.

2 And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

3 And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, and have not charity, it profiteth me nothing.

1 Corinthians 13:1-3

Paul is using rhetorical hyperbole in this passage:

Can one understand all mysteries?

Can one possess all knowledge?

Of course not. 


Why not?  The context is abilities given by God, so one could have whatever amount of knowledge and understand God enabled him to have.  To say that could not include "all" is to put a limit on God.

When Jesus talked about faith to remove mountains or trees, He on one occasion showed it was not necessarily hyperbole, because he withered a fig tree.

But even if we assume those particular ones -- mysteries, knowledge, faith -- are hyperbole, there is no reason to interpret giving all his goods to the poor, or martyring himself in fire, as necessarily hyperbole.

So there is no internal reason in the context to assume all of the items constitute hyperbole, if indeed *any* of them do.

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Likewise neither does one speak with the tongues of angels.  Let's not forget pagan religions practice speaking in tongues too. Voodoo and hindu practioners for instance.

So?  The existence of counterfeits does not negate the existence of the real.  That's specious.

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21 In the law it is written, With men of other tongues (heteroglóssos #2084) and other lips will I speak unto this people; and yet for all that will they not hear me, saith the Lord.
22 Wherefore tongues are for a sign, not to them that believe, but to them that believe not: but prophesying serveth not for them that believe not, but for them which believe.

1 Corinthians 14:21-22


Tongues is a sign gift to unbelievers. Nothing more,  nothing less.

I have addressed those assertions in other posts, in some cases multiple times.

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Those with the gift of tongues were ordered to keep silent if they had no interpreter available.  Likewise all prophecy was to be carefully weighed and evaluated.
1 Corinthians 14:29-33.

Instead, Charismatic churches have conducted pandemonian in the pews contrary to the orders by  Paul under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. 1 Corinthians 14:32-33,40.

IMHO,  alot of reckless immature nonsense!

It may be contrary to the instructions Paul gave under the inspiration of the Spirit to the disorderly and schismatic Corinthians, but it is not contrary to the never-repudiated behavior recorded by Luke under the inspiration of the Spirit in Acts 2, 10, and 19.  It also seems to be consistent with the instructions given by Paul under the inspiration of the Spirit to the churches in Asia Minor in Eph. 5 and Col. 3 ("speaking to one another" and "admonishing one another" via means including "Spiritual songs").

So Scripture is not unambiguously clear on this.
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General Discussion Forum / Re: 66.6 beast
« Last post by 4WD on Today at 05:56:54 AM »
660 -- Approximate number of The Beast

-666: Negative number of the Beast

DCLXVI -- Roman numeral of The Beast

666, 1332, 1998 -- Years of the Beast

666.0000000000 -- Number of the High Precision Beast

0.666 -- Number of the Millibeast

/ 666 -- Beast Common Denominator

0.005015 -- Reciprical of the Beast.

666i -- Imaginary number of The Beast

1010011010 -- Binary number of The Beast

-0.80902 -- The Sine of the Beast

443556 -- Square of the Beast

25.807 -- The Root of all evil

295408296 -- Cube of the Beast

0.58779 -- Cosine of the Beast

-1.37638 -- Tangent of the Beast

2.8235 -- Log of the Beast

6.5913 -- Ln Beast

1.738E289 -- Anti-log of the Beast

6.66E2 --Scientific number of the Beast

29A -- Hexadecimal number of the Beast

666! -- Factorial of the Beast

2, 3, 111 -- Factors of the Beast

2 x 3^2 x 37 -- Prime Factorization of the Beast

665.5-666.5 -- Range of the Beast

660: Beast rounded down

670: Beast rounded up

6, uh... what was that number again? -- Number of the Blonde Beast

1-666 -- Area code of The Beast

00666 -- Zip code of The Beast

665.95  Wal-Mart Price of the Beast

I don't care who you are; that was funny.   And very imaginative.  Thanks.
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