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Christian Politics Forum / Re: Self decevied
« Last post by MeMyself on Yesterday at 05:54:47 PM »
  Sure the President can serve Christ. Just like I do in my secular job and everyone else that has a secular job. Can a Christian subvert his faith in his job? Yes, but it's not any more likely for a President than it is for a janitor or plumber, or an oil company employee. If you don't want to participate in the political process, then don't. I thank God for those that DO. I would hate to leave it all to Godless people. Though I'm sure we have some.

AMEN!


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Just an aside, I don't think you have any scriptural authority to be using a computer device, Babylon's invention and tool of iniquity obviously!  IF YOU'RE COMING OUT OF BABYLON, COME ALL THE WAY OUT, McLeese.

Exactly, and what I said to him in an earlier post...
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Messianic Judaism Forum / Parasha "Mishpatim" EX 21:1-24:18
« Last post by Jacob Ben Avraham on Yesterday at 05:53:00 PM »
SHABBAT SHALOM: PARASHA: MISHPATIM (ordinances/judgments)

EX 21:1-24:18...................JEREMIAH 33:25-26.....................MATT 5:38-42

In this Parasha, we see many different mitzvoth/commandments that Adonai has given to Moshe to relay to Am Israel. If we read through them all, we can see that many are still for today, unfortunately, many people do not consider this, many were given to curb or discourage crime, theft, especially if the thief were caught, would have to pay double.

Another unfortunate mind-set, many, even Christians, believe that these commandments were "only" for Israel, that under the "New Covenant" we would not have to live under these. yet obedience to these has nothing to do with our "salvation" relationship with God. that issue is separate. "by faith in the sacrifice of Yeshua we are saved" the commandments were given so that, as believers, we might walk in a holy, life-style before Adonai, and our fellow man,. and many of these commandments have to do with our fellow man.

The first part deals with the issue of slavery. The type of slavery that Adonai talks about is NOT the slavery that we in America have learned about; The fate of thousands of Africans that were imported to the colonies, and lived in bondage for life. Slaves under the rule of Israel were only slaves for 7 years, afterwards, they were set free, and the master had to give them food, grain, oil, wine, etc so that the slave could begin a new life. The master had to treat them well, NOT mistreat them, there were consequences for mistreatment of slaves.

However, some slaves loved their masters and did not wish to leave, then, a ring was placed in their ear, indicating that, under their own free will, they were bonded to their masters, for "life" that would be until the year of Jubilee, "life" was 50 years. But looking at this in a derashic sense, Yeshua paid our price, and thus we were "released" from our slave master, Satan, before we come to Yeshua, we are slaves to sin, after we are released from the curse of sin, we now follow a new master. Do we really, would we really seek to be released from HIM? ....or... like Rav Shaul says, "we are bond slaves to Yeshua" by our own free will, we are willing to follow in his footsteps, obey his voice through the Torah and the Ruach Ha Kodesh (Holy Spirit) his rewards are worth it.

But there is another type of slavery, slavery to materialism, the love and pursuit of money, things, fame, importance, etc, and putting those thing ahead of our relationship with Adonai, makes us "slaves" to those things. Material things do have their place in our lives, but we should never become "slaves" to those things.

EX 21:18,19 Read these verses, they make sense even for today. If someone loses his or her temper and hurts someone, the least that person should do is pay the Doctor bill, pay his lost wages, maybe that way, the person will think twice before losing it and striking out and knocking the other person into the middle of next week.

EX 21:24,25 "Eye for an eye, Tooth for a tooth" doesn't mean that if you knock out my tooth, I get to knock out yours, it means I have to take you to the dentist and pay for a dental implant, (refer to verses 18, and 19 above) or "just and equal compensation for damage done"

EX 21:33. Makes sense even for today. It is probably a rule on construction sites, it is only a safety precaution to prevent accidents. If not, then we are inadvertently, "standing idly and allowing our brother's blood to be shed " or causing loss of property, limb, wound, etc

EX 22:18 "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" now THAT is a strict commandment, yet we live in a country that promotes freedom of religion, that commandment is not for today, rather we should reach out to those who follow Satan and pray for them, that they might come out of darkness and into the light of Yeshua

EX 22:21; 23:9 "Thou shalt not vex a stranger...." twice it is mentioned, Adonai considers this very important, that ALL people are treated right, both natural born and immigrants alike. We live in a country of immigrants, our ancestors were immigrants, yet today, many are "vexed" and are being sent back, separating families, harassment, etc, this nation is looking for judgement, unless Bible/Torah based values are returned to.

Adonai wants us to remember his feasts (23:14) since ALL point to Yeshua and illustrate Messiah in different ways.
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JEREMIAH 33:25,26

 What a statement when we read this, "If my covenant is not.......then I will cast away the seed of Jacob" But we can see that HIS covenant is Permanent, His covenant is valid day and night, The Torah is for today as well as for yesterday, Just as Israel Lives, His Torah, his covenant lives, His "Living Torah" lives,

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MATTHEW 5:38-42

Yeshua is teaching some strong points. At times, difficult to follow through with, yet he points out that if someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the left. Many think this as a sign for passifism, to not defend yourself if attacked, but I believe this could be in

response to verbal insults or verbal abuse, to "turn the cheek" would be to ignore the insults and/or verbal abuse and not seek retaliation, to "strike back" with equal insults, rather to "pray for the person and forgive the person" (who knows, the person might have had a bad day, cat might have died)


Shabbat Shalom..................Rabbi Ben Avraham
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Christian Politics Forum / Re: Self decevied
« Last post by Jaime on Yesterday at 05:34:54 PM »
Sure the President can serve Christ. Just like I do in my secular job and everyone else that has a secular job. Can a Christian subvert his faith in his job? Yes, but it's not any more likely for a President than it is for a janitor or plumber, or an oil company employee. If you don't want to participate in the political process, then don't. I thank God for those that DO. I would hate to leave it all to Godless people. Though I'm sure we have some.

Just an aside, I don't think you have any scriptural authority to be using a computer device, Babylon's invention and tool of iniquity obviously!  IF YOU'RE COMING OUT OF BABYLON, COME ALL THE WAY OUT, McLeese.
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History Forum / Re: Why???
« Last post by Jd34 on Yesterday at 05:33:43 PM »
Check this out:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sLErPqqCC54

I bet they have a language that we don't fully understand if any at all.  I wonder where they fall into the  tribes that the bible speaks of????
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Catholic Forum / Re: Born again......adults
« Last post by LexKnight on Yesterday at 05:19:25 PM »
Winsome isn't far off, though I wouldn't word it like he did. The facts are the Lord clearly stated it's the one who does the Will of God who enters, and James already said we're not justified before God by faith alone. However, they're not works ad much as they are simple obedience. If the Lord tells one "Move to San Francisco, I have work for you there," and one refuses to because they're "saved by faith alone," you really expect that person to have favor from the Lord? Yes the obedience must come by faith, but nonetheless there are expectations.


excuse me - what has all this got to do with the original post re born again - wincam

It's related to where the topic digressed. The idea of born again adults explained this way is... silly.
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http://www.foxnews.com/science/2016/01/25/mini-t-rex-welsh-dragon-may-be-earliest-jurassic-dinosaur.html
LIVESCIENCE By Laura Geggel ∙ Published January 25, 2016

Two brothers hunting for ichthyosaur fossils along the coast of the United Kingdom came across something far more astounding: The bones of what may be the earliest known dinosaur from the Jurassic period in the U.K., and possibly even the world, a new study finds.

After finding the bones in 2014, Rob Hanigan contacted his brother, Nick. The two scoured the coast, located just south of Wales, for more of the fossils, taking careful geological notes along the way.

Later, they reached out to paleontologists at the University of Portsmouth, who confirmed that the bones belonged to a theropod, a group of mostly meat-eating dinosaurs. Moreover, the paleo-beast lived at a key point of dinosaur diversification at the beginning of the Jurassic, said study co-author Steven Vidovic, a doctoral researcher of paleontology at the University of Portsmouth.
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http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/no-quit-famed-nypd-whisteblower-frank-serpico-article-1.1226101
BY Larry Mcshane / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS / Updated: Sunday, December 23, 2012, 2:00 AM

GHENT, N.Y. — If you’re searching for the Frank Serpico of the ’70s, the whistle-blowing hippie cop of cinematic renown, pay a visit to Netflix.

The real thing is now 76, his famous beard close-cropped and gray. Wiry and fit, Serpico sports tinted glasses and a Keith Richards-style skull ring with ruby red eyes.

He lives alone in the woods upstate, far from his Greenwich Village haunts of yore. But despite the distance and the decades, Serpico is never too far away from his NYPD past.

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Catholic Forum / Re: Born again......adults
« Last post by wincam on Yesterday at 05:06:56 PM »
Winsome isn't far off, though I wouldn't word it like he did. The facts are the Lord clearly stated it's the one who does the Will of God who enters, and James already said we're not justified before God by faith alone. However, they're not works ad much as they are simple obedience. If the Lord tells one "Move to San Francisco, I have work for you there," and one refuses to because they're "saved by faith alone," you really expect that person to have favor from the Lord? Yes the obedience must come by faith, but nonetheless there are expectations.


excuse me - what has all this got to do with the original post re born again - wincam
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Theology Forum / Re: The greatest unused power in the world today....
« Last post by grace on Yesterday at 04:23:08 PM »
My question: When do you believe the "church age will end"?
Please wrap you answer around Ephesians 3:21. "Unto him be the glory in the church by Christ Jesus throughout all ages, world without end."
Love you grace---keep a punching....:)
Will the church be functioning in the same way from age to age?
Chapter 4 of Ephesians says that we are not perfect yet, we are not in unity of the faith yet, we are not the fullness of Christ yet? When will this be?
It is when Jesus returns for His bride! Then we will know as we are known and then face to face.
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Philosophy / Re: Can a Christian support evolution?
« Last post by Jd34 on Yesterday at 04:21:19 PM »
Dear S.M.

The use of the term "spontaneously create" is a reference to the omnipotence of the Creator. Either we accept that He made this creation - or we go with the scientists and their crazy "big bang" idea.  If the latter then we need to embrace the concept that physical matter can create itself somehow.  This would negate the basic principle of all belief in His omnipotence, that sentience can create insentience but not the other way around. 

For example - your deeper skin layers and your blood carry the sentient force of life in them.  If there is damage to any part with which they come in contact then they can create a repair or a new part.  This power to repair comes from sentience.

On the other hand your finger nails and any hair on your body, although they are created by the sentient life force in the body, they are not in themselves sentient (i.e. they do not carry a sentient life force) or in common language 'they are dead matter' even though they are still an essential part of your body.  Nails and hair cannot repair themselves if damaged, neither can they repair any other part with which they come into contact.  This is an imperfect analogy -  which is an attempt to explain the principle that sentience can create insentience but not the other way around. 

Hence the 'big bang' idea is flawed because it involves only insentient matter which could never become alive in the way we see all living things.  Dead matter cannot create living creatures. And since we see that there are living creatures - then we must come back to rely on the omnipotent Creator.

So if we accept that the Creator is the principle and omnipotent (all powerful) sentient force in the universe, then He has no limits to what He can do.  He has delegated this mundane function to Mother Nature - so that He can sit back 'as it were' and keep a watchful eye over all that goes on while She gets busy with all the detailed running of things.  Hence She must carry that omnipotence as an inheritance from Him.  So She can create from air, fire, water and earth any form which she wishes spontaneously. There is no doubt about it.  Creatures do not have to change from one form into another.  If we go down the route of doubt about this we end up with the unsolvable "which came first the chicken or the egg".  i.e. was it a microbe or amoeba which came as the first living creature.

In Genesis 11 & 12 it says - And God (the Creator) said (Willed) let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself; and it was so. And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind. And God saw that it was good.

This is a statement of a basic principle. That first life forms are spontaneously created (by Him or Him in the form of His secret agent), after that they reproduce with their seed (or sperm or whatever).  It does not say that He created the seeds and planted them. So the answer to the question, "which came first the chicken or the egg?" is that the Creator came first with the knowledge of how to create a chicken  (i.e. not an egg).

We should not fall in to the limiting idea that the Creator has created all this and retired from it all.  He still has the power to do anything He wishes at any time.  He was not made less by bringing this creation into being.  He is here and now with us.  (The Kingdom of God is at hand) i.e. is right here now.

We must accept the authority of the scripture.  Because it has originated from the perfect minds of those great and holy human beings who have seen with their own intellect the things which they have attempted to describe for us.  Any human language will show up deficiencies when it tries to explain the unexplainable - so we must allow for that when we read scripture.  And remember all we ever read in English has been through the mill many times with translation and language change, word meaning change etc. So the original power in some scripture has been a bit lost.

Sorry its a bit of a drawn out answer - but your query was a very important one and very relevant . I have tried my best to explain.

Best wishes

Science tell us that something can come from nothing..

I don't have a problem with a Big Bang when God spoke the world in to existence. Let there be light - and POW!! 
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