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Christian Men Forum / Re: Work place anger
« Last post by Carey on Yesterday at 04:37:36 PM »
Hi David,

It is very trying to deal with people such as you describe, I will offer two points of advice.

First, you mention praying for a peaceful mindset, nothing wrong with that and it should be encouraged, but pray for the coworker also.

Second, I understand how being talked down to can strain one's patience and breed anger, another's pride can be extremely annoying.  CS Lewis once said, I paraphrase, that another's pride most angers the prideful.  In my own experience I know this to be true.  When I feel anger or annoyance at being talked down to, the solution is often to recognize it is my own pride that is at the root of such feelings, and peace can be found by letting go of that pride.  I know people that have remarkable humility, and in such situations have remarkable patience and peace.  In praying for a peaceful mind, pray also for humility.

Prayers brother,

Theology Forum / Understanding the Love of God
« Last post by Chrislifted on Yesterday at 04:35:45 PM »
1Corinthians 13:1-3 NKJV: Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I have become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal.  (2) And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing.  (3) And though I bestow all my goods to feed the poor, and though I give my body to be burned, but have not love, it profits me nothing.
So it is essential to find out what love really is and how to CONSISTENTLY WALK OR CONDUCT OURSELVES IN LOVE.
Love is discerning by DIVINE wisdom; desiring by DIVINE compassion and doing by DIVINE power what God would do in every situation.
The scripture says GOD IS LOVE AND NOT LOVE IS GOD!
1John 4:8 NKJV: He who does not love does not know God, for God is love.
1John 4:16 NKJV: And we have known and believed the love that God has for us. God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God in him.
Proverbs 2:6 NKJV: For the LORD gives wisdom; From His mouth come knowledge and understanding;
Ephesians 1:17 NKJV: that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give to you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of Him,
1John 2:5 NKJV: But whoever keeps His word, truly the love of God is perfected in him. By this we know that we are in Him.
Proverbs 4:7 AMP: The beginning of Wisdom is: get Wisdom (skillful and godly Wisdom)! [For skillful and godly Wisdom is the principal thing.] And with all you have gotten, get understanding (discernment, comprehension, and interpretation). [James 1:5.]
Philippians 1:9 AMP: And this I pray: that your love may abound yet more and more and extend to its fullest development in knowledge and all keen insight [that your love may display itself in greater depth of acquaintance and more comprehensive discernment],
Divine compassion is NOT HUMAN SYMPATHY: it is being SPIRITUALLY (NOT EMOTIONALLY, THOUGH IT CAN AFFECT YOUR EMOTIONS; IT ORIGINATES FROM THE HOLY SPIRIT NOT YOUR EMOTIONS), touched with the feelings of the infirmities of men, moving you to help them by divine wisdom and power.
Hebrews 4:15 AMP: For we do not have a High Priest Who is unable to understand and sympathize and have a shared feeling with our weaknesses and infirmities and liability to the assaults of temptation, but One Who has been tempted in every respect as we are, yet without sinning.
Divine compassion is exercised by the fruits of the Spirit of longsuffering, gentleness and kindness:
Galatians 5:22-23 NKJV: But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,  (23) gentleness, self-control. Against such there is no law.
Divine compassion motivates us to exercise longsuffering, gentleness and kindness towards men who are suffering some affliction or problem and so pray for and minister unto them by the wisdom and power of God.
1John 3:17-18 KJV: But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?  (18) My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth.
Divine power FOLLOWS divine wisdom and compassion to administer divine love to men in action and deeds.
Acts 1:8 KJV: But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
James 5:16 AMP: Confess to one another therefore your faults (your slips, your false steps, your offenses, your sins) and pray [also] for one another, that you may be healed and restored [to a spiritual tone of mind and heart]. The earnest (heartfelt, continued) prayer of a righteous man makes tremendous power available [dynamic in its working].
So, we see that to walk in DIVINE love (not just human emotion and sympathy), we need the Word of God, the compassion and power of God through effectual fervent prayer; so we NEED the blood (Heb. 13.20-12); the Word (1 Jn.2.5) and power of the Holy Spirit (1 Jn.4.12-13) to PERFECT the love of God in us.
Christian Women Sexual Topics / Re: Single and Pregnant
« Last post by Jean74 on Yesterday at 04:35:07 PM »
Praying for you. As God will take care of you. As hope you have a supportive and understanding families. Just remember God is in control. Give him that control in you.

Having a baby is a huge responsibility. Never had one myself but heard it takes a lot of work. Just lean on the Lord. As He will give you the way.
Theology Forum / Re: God actually chooses who will be drawn to Jesus.
« Last post by Chrislifted on Yesterday at 04:32:32 PM »
Hi Rella,

Interesting topic you have here. I believe God predetermines CONDITIONS but He does NOT predetermine persons. That is why He searches to and fro the earth so He can show Himself strong on behalf of those whose heart are turned to Him (in His direction). He sees the heart of that person who isn't a Christian yet and sees some good there. He will move mountains to get to such a person, to draw him or her to Christ.

Cornelius (in the book of Acts of the Apostles) is a good example of this. God saw his heart, which overflowed in his good deeds (though he wasn't a Christian) and God moved on his behalf, bringing salvation to him and his household. The eyes of God are searching to and fro the earth as we speak, looking into the hearts of men, to see the smallest iota of good, which will serve as a basis for him to move on behalf of that person to draw him or her to Christ.

His conditions are predetermined, but NEVER persons. All those in whose heart the conditions are met, he draws close to Himself. He said of David: "I have found in David a man After my own heart". Believe me, David wasn't predetermined. He fulfilled the condition. It could have been Eliab or any of David's other Elder brothers.
people often blame others for not wanting to hear truth, but aren't real good at seasoning speech with grace so they make their message hard to hear.  Its the clanging gong syndrome...no love, so their voices are useless.

Then there are the people that think they should be listened to, their truths are of utmost importance, but don't want to be spoken truthfully to.

I have several relatives (very personal situations) who do exactly what you have explained in your post above. Should I tell them the truth? If they do not want to listen to what I have to say, is it because they do not want to know the truth no matter how severe the consequences? Does this mean I have to expect all my relatives will go to hell who do not love the truth? Is this really fair on God's part?
Theology Forum / What did God do with all the angels that sinned?
« Last post by Curtis on Yesterday at 04:29:36 PM »
 4* For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

Is Satan a angel? yes, Did he sin? yes. what did God do to Satan and all the angels that sinned according to this scripture?

How can he be roaming the earth and yet be in hell?
Remember you can not say he is not in Hell when scripture clearly says he is.
How can you reconcile these things together and make sense of it?
Theology Forum / Re: God actually chooses who will be drawn to Jesus.
« Last post by Star of David on Yesterday at 04:26:18 PM »
Rella, look closer at part of your original post:

John 6:44 (KJV)

(44) No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up at the last day.

I have read this many times over my life and it still confuses me.


Please note that the Scripture that you posted, Rella, is found ONLY in the Christian Bible and, therefore, holds no sway with non-Christians.

As I have told a few, it doesn't make any sense to me, at all, that a loving God would 'look down' on non-Christians simply because they were born in a non-Christian part of the world.

I know that this does not sit well with many of the Christians who are reading this, but they are simply incapable of being able to stand back and see The Big Picture.


You didn't anaswer the question Mike asked.  Do you believe Protestants are condemned because we do it "in remembrance" with the "presence" being the Holy Spirit, rather than believing it is actually flesh and blood?

Mike didn't ask the question to me, and if I choose not to answer a question, I won't answer. 
But know this, that God alone is the judge.  And Mike's question was bait.

Mike >You are right that God is the judge.  Nice dodge Cath

News from Around the World / Re: Today Scotland is Voting
« Last post by BondServant on Yesterday at 04:21:35 PM »
They would be mad to leave, but I think that it would financially benefit us, the English, as we subsidize them greatly at the moment.  Apparently they have £1600 a head more spent on them than the English. Also they get free tuition fees  at their universities(our students have to pay £9,000 a year) and also they get free prescriptions which we dont. We dont get a say though sadly.I predict that 54% will say no and 46% yes because people will come to their senses at the last minute.

I hope you are right. Scotland breaking away would adversely affect NATO as well.  NATO would lose vital bases as a result.  Also, all the military re-organization y'all would have to do would adversely affect missions in Afghanistan and Iraq as well.  There are some pretty serious global security concerns.
people often blame others for not wanting to hear truth, but aren't real good at seasoning speech with grace so they make their message hard to hear.  Its the clanging gong syndrome...no love, so their voices are useless.

Then there are the people that think they should be listened to, their truths are of utmost importance, but don't want to be spoken truthfully to.

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