But I don't get it.
I'll keep this simple for skeeter!don't blame me for you convoluted posts and misinformation! (red above)
One of the problems that Protestants have with images is that they have split the first Commandment into two and thus distorted the command.
First, two definitions from the Concise Oxford English Dictionary:
Idol: an image or representation of a god used as an object of worship..
Worship: the feeling or expression of reverence and adoration for a deity.
The First Commandment.
Dt 5:7 You shall have no other gods before me.
Dt 5:8-9 You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them or serve them;
Dt 5:7 lays out the command.
Dt 5:8-9 expands that into what it means to have another god before the one true God.
But Protestants erroneously split the command into two and create misunderstanding over what the command is prohibiting.
It‘s prohibiting having another god before the one true God by worshipping an image as a another god.
The Catholic Church clearly teaches that there is only on true God.
The Creed which we say every Sunday at Mass starts “I believe in one God…”
Images & Statues not condemned by the Bible. God commands them to be made in certain circumstances:
But they were not to be worshipped
God commanded the bronze serpent to be made. When the Israelites looked at it, as God commanded, then God healed them of the serpents bite. When they looked at the serpent they were really looking to God for healing. (Num 21:6-9)
Later they started worshipping the bronze serpent so Hezekiah destroyed it. (2Kg 1:18).
That's when things went wrong.
Catholics do not worship statues.
MeMyself , you say : " The only place I have seen such spouting about Protestants from Catholics is here...and a lot of it comes from you, Paulus, if I am to be honest.
I look very much forward to posts here focusing on our unity in Christ in the future! (on both sides) . "
I too look forward to such posts .
However such posts are made well nigh impossible by the blatant anti-Catholicism of a few who come on this Catholic forum .
I will continue to fiercely oppose in the way I choose this anti-Catholicism which is here simply to mock , scorn , scoff at , treat with contempt ( call it what you will , but it is here ) anything Catholic .
As I am continually saying , they are few in number , but they are not here to focus on our unity in Christ .
They are not here to dialogue .
They are not here to share in a discussion , and I accept that discussions can get heated . But these have no intention to discuss .
They are here with one agenda . That agenda is to be anti-Catholic , and nothing you or I or anyone else may say to these few will deter them .
That unfortunately is the sad situation . And I will deal with it in a way I feel fitting .
QuoteNo I dont want to find out about it, but why is it that you are being attacked in this way and not others? How do you know for sure that its what is happening?
When you get to a level of knowledge and understanding of things.
And you post stuff on certain webpages that was before the curve` And bring things to The light.Which Gods has used you for.
Give all glory to God.
And you meet The wrong people in life and cross paths.Or maybe the Right people only God knows the outcome.Who am i to Say what is His way is for me and the people I meet in Life..
Anyways..You get attacked by alot of angles.People dont want to hear the TRUTH of the HOLY SPIRIT.And they will attack you even more .When you speak truth.Plus they know who is of God and they attack people even more.
Im trying to get away from that stuff.
And trying to go back to church .And find the right church.
Ok, give a scripture for your definition of works.
It says by faith, not by faith alone.
No I dont want to find out about it, but why is it that you are being attacked in this way and not others? How do you know for sure that its what is happening?
QuoteWell, if all you were wanting was prayer, perhaps next time just ask for it without all the details.
Its ok to do so, God knows where your need is.
The things you brought up are going to make people ask questions...
No in prayer you want to be specific as possible and especially in spiritual warfare prayers.
So if you getting attacked ,the more specific the prayer the better.
Ask, Seek, Knock
7"Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 8"For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened.
Im sure some people can provide more bible verses on the matter.
Yea ,im sure people want to know more about.that stuff.But has Christians we shouldnt dwell to much in that stuff.Says so in the bible.And anybody can look that up on the internet.
So i dont want to share to much about it.Its magic,Thats all as christians we need to know.
I dont want to be the person. That have people look into and may even open doors for people in that technology.Who crave power or revenge.
So This is a christian site,We need not get into that stuff here.But here is a bit about it,
Its electronic magic that deals with the Ether and electronic waves..Black magic or White magic.But its magic none the less.The will and the intent with the Spirit realm.
Basically it is casting a spell over and over and over and over again and depends how strong you want to do it.Which comes back to the will and intent.You use a imprint of somebody hair or picture ect. and then use that to tune to the target and either cause harm or good. What even your intent your gonna put in the machine to manifest your will on the target.
Im not and expert in by no means and you can read alot about it online,but as christians we dont get involved in it.
QuoteSo why have you in particular been targeted for their faith, and not any of the hundreds of believers I have know who are serving him in many different ways? I honestly dont know how you are sure that the things you describe are real and are being used against believers. I have never heard of it before.Certain people in the occult and new age sites use these devices and other groups.
Most people on The new age forums know about this stuff.Its nothing new.People in the occult have alot alot of knowledge.And how the world works.
Well if you search on the web and youtube.There is plenty of info on the subject if you want to get more informed on Radionics and other such related technology.
My advice is stay away from such stuff.
So why have you in particular been targeted for their faith, and not any of the hundreds of believers I have know who are serving him in many different ways? I honestly dont know how you are sure that the things you describe are real and are being used against believers. I have never heard of it before.Certain people in the occult and new age sites use these devices and other groups.