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Theology Forum / Re: On eternal security.
« Last post by Thaddaeus on Today at 06:49:24 AM »
skeeter,

Quote
the same claim on another idea isn't actually the same claim...
Could you exlain why not?
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Devotionals / Re: Gen 9:3-29 devotionals
« Last post by clark thompson on Today at 06:22:32 AM »
Genesis 9:15 King James Version (KJV)
15 And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh

Genesis 9:15
KJ2000 15 And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh.

These are my thoughts.
God keeps His covenants and when need to do our part by remembering this.
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Christian Marriage Forum / Re: Marriage help, new to reformed faith
« Last post by chosenone on Today at 05:34:21 AM »
Just to address a couple other issues mentioned-
Regarding the weight issue, I know why I have gained weight. Partly due to a medical disorder I have, partly due to stress eating, partly due to meds that I have to take for my medical condition. He knows that. He encourages me when I try to lose weight. He has never said anything to me to make me feel like he doesn't like to be with me anymore. I think it is that we have let other things get in the way. I internalize that as meaning he doesn't like me anymore. After talking this weekend, we have renewed our commitment to each other.

As far as attending different churches, as I mentioned just in my previous post, I can appreciate that some couples are able to do that, but that would not work for us.
Especially because we do have children. Back before we changed churches he said that if I wanted to that I could keep attending the church I wanted, but he wanted the kids to go to the church he is attending. I think that would cause a whole lot more strife. I don't see that as a good example to set for my kids. It would send a message that I don't trust my husband well enough in deciding our church home. I am speaking for my family, not necessarily others. I trust his decision. I just don't enjoy it. The issue is that we are in different places spiritually. We used to be more in sync spiritually. He has grown in a different way that I haven't. Learning how to be together when we are in different places spiritually is what we have to work on (realizing this just this weekend as we talked).
Again, thank you for all the input.

Sounds very positive Stacie.  ::smile::
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Christian Politics Forum / Re: One more prediction
« Last post by Jaime on Today at 05:09:23 AM »
Yeah I think there will be sizable defections in the Democrat party away from Hillary.
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General Discussion Forum / Re: Which Bible version/s do you read?
« Last post by RB on Today at 05:02:11 AM »
I'll let this one scripture (among man I could use) answer my question of this thread:
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Ist Peter 3:21 from the KJV~"The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ."
"The like figure"~ teaches the true mode of baptism is immersion, for baptism must be a figure of the resurrection of Jesus Christ. Immersion symbolizes the burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ. "Not the putting away of the filth of the flesh"~teaches the true design of baptism. It does not save from sin or regenerate. It is rather the symbolic answer of a conscience already saved. "But the answer of a good conscience toward God"~ teaches the true subject of baptism. Only those old enough to believe and answer God with their conscience should be baptized.

Revised Standard Version (1952)
 Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a clear conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

New American Standard Version (1971)
 And corresponding to that, baptism now saves you - not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience - through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

New International Version (1978)
 And this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also - not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a good conscience toward God. It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

New Revised Standard Version (1989)
 And baptism, which this prefigured, now saves you - not as a removal of dirt from the body, but as an appeal to God for a good conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

CAN YOU IDENTIFY THE CORRUPTION OF . . .

MODE: They deny baptism is a figure of resurrection and instead make the ark (3:20) a figure of baptism.

DESIGN: They allow baptism to put away sins and regenerate by only denying it cleans dirt from the body.

SUBJECT: They make baptism the appeal for a good conscience rather than the answer of a good conscience.

All versions are not the same, and neither are they the true word of God.
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End Times Forum / Re: The False Doctrine of the "Secret Rapture".
« Last post by TonkaTim on Today at 05:00:07 AM »
Beameup, for a little while the ancients thought it might be Julian the Apostate. He was antichristian. Was financing the rebuilding of the earthly temple in earthly Jerusalem. But through miraculous events & great earthquakes that came to a sudden stop. He died young & was only Emperor for couple of years.

The upside to Julian the Apostate was it pretty much put an end to paganism. The miraculous events pretty much illustrated it was failed & powerless to the One True God.
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And scripture is clear what happens  to those who worship idols...

Hosea 13:2-3 King James Version (KJV)

"2 And now they sin more and more, and have made them molten images of their silver, and idols according to their own understanding, all of it the work of the craftsmen: they say of them, Let the men that sacrifice kiss the calves.
3 Therefore they shall be as the morning cloud and as the early dew that passeth away, as the chaff that is driven with the whirlwind out of the floor, and as the smoke out of the chimney."


Zechariah 13:2 King James Version (KJV)

"And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord of hosts, that I will cut off the names of the idols out of the land, and they shall no more be remembered: and also I will cause the prophets and the unclean spirit to pass out of the land."

Revelation 9:20 King James Version (KJV)

"And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:"
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Perhaps you would be interested to know that Israelite cultic practices looked a lot like those of the other nations. The psalms use images and terms that were used by the surrounding nations when worshiping their gods.


Humans have chanted in worship; humans have had temples; humans have venerated their famous religious heroes; humans have met together to worship their gods; humans have made sacrifices to their gods; humans have had a priest class for their cults; humans have claimed their gods for their lands; humans have based their gods' like or dislike of them on whether things were going well or not.



The point? That the People of God are human and have always, apparently, included in their practices ideas "borrowed" from their neighbors. Human worship practices are rather limited and common among all religions. Clearly there are some exceptions (child sacrifice and sexual impurity come to mind), but the general look and feel is pretty predictable.


The issue isn't whether anyone else does the same things, or whether Christian practice looks like or originates from someplace else. The issue is, who are you worshiping?
If you have idols, just like the Jews back in Israel, the scripture tells us:

"Ezekiel 14 King James Version (KJV)

1 Then came certain of the elders of Israel unto me, and sat before me.

2 And the word of the Lord came unto me, saying,

3 Son of man, these men have set up their idols in their heart, and put the stumblingblock of their iniquity before their face: should I be enquired of at all by them?

4 Therefore speak unto them, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Every man of the house of Israel that setteth up his idols in his heart, and putteth the stumblingblock of his iniquity before his face, and cometh to the prophet; I the Lord will answer him that cometh according to the multitude of his idols;

5 That I may take the house of Israel in their own heart, because they are all estranged from me through their idols.

6 Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord God; Repent, and turn yourselves from your idols; and turn away your faces from all your abominations.

7 For every one of the house of Israel, or of the stranger that sojourneth in Israel, which separateth himself from me, and setteth up his idols in his heart, and putteth the stumblingblock of his iniquity before his face, and cometh to a prophet to enquire of him concerning me; I the Lord will answer him by myself:

8 And I will set my face against that man, and will make him a sign and a proverb, and I will cut him off from the midst of my people; and ye shall know that I am the Lord.
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Christian Politics Forum / Re: One more prediction
« Last post by TonkaTim on Today at 04:50:56 AM »
Red, I believe he will be the next President too.

If he is I say we all pray for him. He will need it.
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