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Theology Forum / Re: Victory over satan at Calvary... yes!!!
« Last post by TruthScientist on Today at 10:30:13 AM »
how did the best inside of us get eve to disobey God by partaking of the forbidden fruit?  that is what the bible says...

 Says the serpent tempted....i already see where this is going yhough, go to the other thread if youcwant to ask other questions about this topic plz.

you can't or won't answer?  why are you here?  to impart???
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Theology Forum / Re: Victory over satan at Calvary... yes!!!
« Last post by TruthBeTold on Today at 10:29:23 AM »
  go to the other thread if youcwant to ask other questions about this topic plz.

What an odd reply! You didn't start this thread, HE did.  ::juggle::

Lol i didnt even notice, op if you dont mind me taking the thread a lil off topic ull proceed?
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Theology Forum / Re: Victory over satan at Calvary... yes!!!
« Last post by MeMyself on Today at 10:23:36 AM »
  go to the other thread if youcwant to ask other questions about this topic plz.

What an odd reply! You didn't start this thread, HE did.  ::juggle::
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Theology Forum / Re: Victory over satan at Calvary... yes!!!
« Last post by TruthBeTold on Today at 10:21:40 AM »
how did the best inside of us get eve to disobey God by partaking of the forbidden fruit?  that is what the bible says...

 Says the serpent tempted....i already see where this is going yhough, go to the other thread if youcwant to ask other questions about this topic plz.
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Again people dont seem to ynderstand just because weve worked does not mean weve earned.

A guy picks up a homeless kid off the strwet...adapts him and calls him son......the gives him his entire business and says you must do this this this and that to keep the busoness running....the adapted son does everything required? Because he did work did he earn the business? No. But works were required. Theres a difference. I bet the same people against being required to do something for God also believe in rewards in heaven based off works ( which the bible says specifically there are) yet have a hard time believing that something is required of us to get into heaven in the first place. Because we get rewards based off our works on earth does that mean we earned them? No no no. It means it was given by Gods grace. Basically by grace there is a system. The bible says ask and te shall recieve. Asking is a work, so by the logic people are using sinced asked and had faith we deserved whatever we got because asking and faith is a work. I can say " i got this opportunity or job or whatever because i prayed....i got it because i prayed...and had faith....does that mean i earned it? No it means i met the requirments to obtain whatever i had which is not earning.
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Theology Forum / Re: Victory over satan at Calvary... yes!!!
« Last post by TruthScientist on Today at 10:05:58 AM »
how did the best inside of us get eve to disobey God by partaking of the forbidden fruit?  that is what the bible says... 
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Theology Forum / Re: Victory over satan at Calvary... yes!!!
« Last post by TruthBeTold on Today at 10:02:22 AM »
Because satan is yhe beast inside us, for those in christ he is being overcome and will completely overcome him when we get our glorified forms. Jesus overcame satan because he never sinned and thus overcame the penalty of sin to those who have faith in him
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Theology Forum / Re: God's grace and the criminally insane
« Last post by MeMyself on Today at 09:55:05 AM »
I believe we ALL need grace.

I do too...in fact, as I thought about this further, I wondered if it isn't true that those that can't fathom God or sin or even the simplest things of life may need His beautiful grace all the more?  God's grace is just breathtaking.


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I also believe that when we find out what He does about all those people we will recognize the justice, mercy, love, and utter rightness of His action. We will probably also think something like, "Oh, of course! Why didn't I think of that?"

True!  We see through a mirror darkly, but one day we will see clearly.
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Charlie24,
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Gal. 5:4-5
"Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.
For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith."

Sounds like a warning to me! Your "doing" is not going to get you there.
Works of the law is not synonymous with "doing". Works of the law are only works of the actual law, in this case, specifically circumcision, since the verse before the ones you quoted says
Galatians 5:3 Again I declare to every man who lets himself be circumcised that he is obligated to obey the whole law.

The idea with circumcision was not to earn salvation, but to fulfill the old covenant. No one ever spoke about earning.

So you are saying the "works of the law" is not the "doing of the law."
All the "works of the law" had to be done, as in "doing."

Paul is pointing to circumcision as it was the immediate problem. They were making the ceremony of circumcision a must for salvation. Concerning salvation, as Paul was addressing with the Galatians, the "works of the law" is anything other than faith.

Paul is plainly telling the Galatians they cannot earn salvation by the law, which is doing. He says it is by faith.

You are trying to confine "works" to only be the law, not so. Works is doing anything other than faith for salvation.

Rom. 11:5-6
"Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
 
And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work."

If you add any type of works with grace, it is no more grace. It's the same thing Paul is saying to the Galatians.


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Theology Forum / Victory over satan at Calvary... yes!!!
« Last post by TruthScientist on Today at 09:43:01 AM »
then why are we yet having to deal with him here on earth...?

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