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Theology Forum / Re: Jesus, John, Paul, and Peter all preached righteousness!
« Last post by Johnb on Yesterday at 03:37:50 PM »
Quote MOH

Grace and mercy will be present. It is not upon us to take any for granted and live as irresponsible believers.

No one is saying that we should live irresponsible.  Paul said should we continue in sin that grace may abound?  God forbid...
No one is denying that we should fight sin and live as best we can but our salvation is not based on our righteousness or the good works we do or do not do.  "There is none righteous NO NOT ONE." 
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Willie-  While I would have reacted more inline with your mother as opposed to your step father (Surprise) I can respect what he did by showing you the consequence of constantly cursing.   But my question to you is would he have elected this “assimilation” tactic had you boys been discovered with say pornography,  Cigarettes, or alcohol.   And this has been the point I have struggled to get through in this forum.  While you may view this book as an opportunity to open dialogue  I do not.   I see it as a gross,  cancerous, and mind numbing.   Just imagine you step father finding you with all 3,  because that is the level of concern this book generated in me.
I would say the reaction would be about the same for any of it.  My mother got a call at work from my grandmother telling her I was "puffing" a cigarette at around 8 or nine.  Mom told me how proud she was of me that I was becoming her little "man", and sat me down to teach me how to smoke a whole pack when she got home.  I didn't make it through one cigarette.  And I have always thought smoking is stupid, from that day forward.

My step dad caught me with a girl (not really doing anything) when I was 15.  Just his gentle look of, "this is not how men act", was all it took to keep me from that kind of foolishness for at least a year more.

Sex was never a deal with me because my mother really taught me, in quite some detail, all about the whole process from very early on... starting about 7 or 8.  So it was just a natural thing by the time I got to really noticing.

The point is that nothing was treated as "taboo", and I was never shamed for normal inclinations.  It is the basic tools of Satan, guilt and shame, with which we tend to warp our kids, and make them do what Adam and Eve did... hide from God, instead of seeking Him out for understanding of these new issues in our lives.

If we force them into the position of keeping secrets from us because we shame them for their feelings, then how in the world do we think they are going to ever turn to God for anything..... let alone ever begin to understand a relationship with Jesus?
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Theology Forum / Re: Its a shame...
« Last post by TruthScientist on Yesterday at 03:14:56 PM »
No matter what anyone says,does or has ever done or not done,no matter what anyone thinks is irrelevant,the fact remains that it is the will of God for us to live above sin 1 John 3:6-9 rather we do or not,even if none ever have or ever do is totally immaterial.The power to do so was purchased for us on the cross by His own blood which is now His own life and nature given to us but its up to us to learn how to receive and appropreiate it into our lives.When we truly trust Him of course we are just starting out and we are given grace to learn to follow and will continue in that forgiveness 1 John 1:7 but this is not an exuse to sin and verse 8 not a statement to be taken out of context to say that everyone continues to be under sin,it simply means when you do sin.Its a lie to say that God has simply left us at the mercy of the power of sin,not so.When it says Jesus Christ is come in the flesh it means my flesh and your flesh not just His,that was the whole purpose.Whatever denies this truth I believe is the AntiChrist spirit talked about in 2Thessalonians and in 1 John. Satan has one goal and that'
s to stop or minimize the power of God in the believer, to steal kill and destroy,to make you believe you must accept sin as a fact of life and looks for all who will buy into it. ::giggle::
have you heard anyone say on here that God does not expect us to overcome sin Dougie?

that was why he prompted adam as to the method satan would try him...  God did not invent or create sin, He had not part in it's inception...it was satan's who first disobeyed and then brought the challenge to man...  God gave man the answer to the test and we failed the first time...  Dougie I am not sure how many years past from Gen. 3 till...

Genesis 6:5 (KJV)
5  And GOD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.


but you can see the progression of sin up even to the cross...  I don't have to go to specific scripture to prove that the power of sin is great upon the flesh of men who are not obedient to God.  Also remember Israel had the law (the do's and don'ts) and still they ignored them and went whoring after other gods that are not gods even with the testimony God had given them along the way.  and them when Jesus came...He set the example of righteousness in humanity and was still sought out and killed of His own people. 

and you are very correct that God still desires us to live righteously.  and he has equipped us with armor, weapons, tools, graces with all things that pertain to life and godliness and yet we fail.

that is not an excuse dougie, that is reality...  by saying we sin I give no excuse to anyone to sin.  are you suggesting that I not admit that as Paul says sometimes when I desire to do the right thing sin is present and sometimes I can over come the desire to commit sin and sometimes i miss it either knowingly or in ignorance.  did paul lie dougie was he kidding with us or was he being honest and telling us that we need to know that sin is never for from us in the form of the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes and the pride of life... 

as long as man is alive these three issues will be used against him again and again by satan and his minions...  the attack against the mind's imagination while you sleep or day dreaming dougie...  The death of Jesus at the cross did not take our flesh out of the game of life.  we have the the necessities to live perfect but the flesh is a bit of a bother and most of us are have to sanctify ourselves daily to keep from taken by sin.

No God did not leave us hear to be overtaken with sin. 

who on here has denied Christ coming in the flesh...  my only point in all this is that we are not saved from sin...  it is still trying you and me daily...  the salvation that we have through the justification...  we no longer have to worry about the wages of  sin which is death...  now in this world that scripture teaches where they that live godly shall receive persecution...  is that sin or the power of sin working against us...  the power of sin is still works against us...  this is why i have trained myself to hate satan every time I see the evidence of sin in this world.  and I use those things that God has given to work against them and as Paul says to first pray without ceasing, then act...  you are not saved from sin dougie but the penalty of it and soon the power and presence also...  till then occupy till he comes...
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Grace and mercy will be present.
It is not upon us to take any for granted and live as irresponsible believers.

Twice, I believe, Paul used as an example FOR US TO HEED ...
God's chosen people were left strewn all over the desert floor for their ______________.
You fill in the blank.



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But to bring glory to God, the effort ought to be brought forth.
The change needs to be done in your heart and mind.
 No one can force you to change otherwise.

IMO, it's all about the attitude of the heart.
And this speaks to the person who asked about dying suddenly.
If one's heart is right with God, he/she will be sincerely repenting of sin.
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I do not view any words spoken carelessly. This topic is not a careless one.

twisting and turning deflecting to keep from answering...

as usual.

Your mindset is NOT you, mindsets can be changed and transformed.  Words can be careless and arrogant in moments of unguarded speaking before thinking.  Doesn't mean that person is arrogant.



I am not viewing any careless words when speaking about scriptures.
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Being a slave to righteousness is a daily process that we ought to strive for.


"Cease striving and know that I am God; I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted in the earth." Psalm 46:10


Luke 13:23–24

23 Then one said to Him, “Lord, are there few who are saved?”

And He said to them, 24 “Strive to enter through the narrow gate, for many, I say to you, will seek to enter and will not be able.

The narrow gate is Jesus Himself. 

As stated, "strive to enter".

Clearly, some effort is required.

The effort, or work that is required is to believe the One God sent.  The Door, the Narrow Gate, the Christ.

Man's response does not cease.
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Christian Marriage Forum / Re: Marriage advice
« Last post by Laurel on Yesterday at 02:58:20 PM »
While it's true that the Bible tells us not to deny one another our conjugal rights, it doesn't say we need to be having sex into old age when neither person is desperate for it.

I think this sounds like a lovely marriage.  It's natural that her first, young marriage was very sexual.  We are designed to have a very active libido during the child bearing years, but it's also natural to enjoy our marital closeness in other ways as we get older.

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Jesus paid it all. In full. I find my righteousness in Him alone.
OUR righteousness is as filthy disgusting rags before Him.

Why do you insist on ignoring dozens of Scripture verses in the OP?
Don't all verses somehow have to fit together into our belief system?
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Theology Forum / Re: Jesus, John, Paul, and Peter all preached righteousness!
« Last post by MeMyself on Yesterday at 02:50:46 PM »
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Being a slave to righteousness is a daily process that we ought to strive for.


"Cease striving and know that I am God; I will be exalted among the nations, I will be exalted in the earth." Psalm 46:10


Luke 13:23–24

23 Then one said to Him, “Lord, are there few who are saved?”

And He said to them, 24 “Strive to enter through the narrow gate, for many, I say to you, will seek to enter and will not be able.

The narrow gate is Jesus Himself. 

As stated, "strive to enter".

Clearly, some effort is required.

The effort, or work that is required is to believe the One God sent.  The Door, the Narrow Gate, the Christ.
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