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I can throw away my glasses now. I've seen it all!

Do you have verses to share?  Do you disagree with the premise?  Is there a perspective in relation to the subject?  Please show me where you find error in my argument for rebirth being literal. 

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Theology Forum / Re: A study on the nature of eternal life
« Last post by Charlie24 on Today at 01:37:29 PM »
Charlie24,

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Justification by faith is God declaring us innocent of all charges of sin by faith in Jesus Christ and His finished work at Calavary. When God looks at the true believer He sees the blood of Jesus Christ, we are perfect and righteous in His sight.
A  perfect statement for Aselm's forensic theory of atonement. Taken right out of the Medieval legal roman law. Has nothing to do with scripture.  Justification means to be put into a correct relationship.  Justification by faith has no forgiveness of sin implied in it.  Once one believes, being justified by faith, repentance is the first requisite. Baptism must follow, then one has entered into Christ, but you are still not saved. You may possess it but it is being tested and one must be vigilant and endure to the end.

He sees you as a sinner and expects you to repent of your sins or be held accountable for them.  Sin separates one from God. It is the returning to sin and not confessing them that removes one from Christ.  I Tim 5:8 even states that one sin is the loss of faith and puts one with unbelievers.

Our relationship is not a legal one. It is a personal one and ontological, not external.  God has no interest in just declaring you innocent. He want us to be healed, to become like Christ, to be perfected in Christ,  to endure, not succumb to sin and the wiles of the devil.  When we do sin  and we confess our sins, He is able to forgive us our sins.

You need to jettison all those man made theories that can lead one astray.

Thad. said,

Justification by faith has no forgiveness of sin implied in it.


No doubt Thad. has never read Acts 13:39.

Through him everyone who believes is set free from every sin, a justification you were not able to obtain under the law of Moses.

How long are going to carry on with this nonsense Thad?

Let me add to this Thad.

I'm growing very weary of your direct and indirect attempts to demean the Cross of my Saviour!!!
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Theology Forum / Re: How To Get To Heaven When You Die
« Last post by Van0o on Today at 01:36:22 PM »
Where is heaven?

Up and far above all. 

Acts 1:10

  .
  And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went UP, behold, two men stood by in white apparel:"

Ephesians 1:20,21

  .
  " Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:

But our promised inheritance is the world to come~which shall be created after the resurrection and judgment of the last day.
When does this take place?
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Apologetics Forum / Arrested Development
« Last post by Netchaplain on Today at 01:33:38 PM »
“Of whom we have many things to say, and hard to be uttered, seeing ye are dull of hearing.  For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again the first principles of the oracles of God, and are become such as have need of milk; and not of solid food” (Heb 5:11, 13).

Those to whom the Apostle was writing were not simply ignorant of the truth, nor young in the faith—which are things that would not necessarily make it difficult to understand the teaching of Scripture.  The real problem was they had “become dull of hearing.”  Their spiritual growth had been arrested.  The time had come when they should have been teachers.  Alas, they needed to be again taught the elementary truths of the beginning of the oracles of God.  They had become such as had need of milk instead of solid food.  The Apostle does not at all slight the use of milk; but he says if milk is the proper diet it is clear proof that the soul is spiritually a babe needing to be established in the righteousness of God.

The Apostle proceeds to show the hindrances to spiritual growth.  The Corinthian saints were hindered by the wisdom and philosophy of men (1Cor 1-3).  These Hebrew believers were hindered by clinging to their traditional religion.  As Darby said, “There is no greater hindrance to progress in spiritual life and intelligence than attachment to an ancient (or modern) form of religion which, being traditional and not simply personal faith in the truth, consists always in ordinances, and is consequently carnal (Heb 10:9) and earthly.”

As with the Hebrews believers, so in Christendom today, nowhere is the darkness and ignorance of God’s Word greater that amongst those who cling to tradition and religious ritual*.  Occupied with mere forms and dazzled by a sensuous religion* that stirs the emotions, and ministers to the natural mind, people are blinded of the Gospel of grace* God unfolded in His Word.  In order to meet this snare the Apostle’s exhorting is, “Wherefore, leaving the word of the beginning of the Christ, let us go on to what belongs to full growth” (Heb 6:1).

He then refers to certain fundamental truths known in Judaism before the Cross, and suited to a state of spiritual infancy.  In contrast to these truths the Apostle presents the full truth of the Person and work of the Lord Jesus Christ, now revealed in Christianity, which he speaks of as perfection.  By clinging to truths which were for the time before Christ’s coming, these believers hindered their growth in the full revelation of Christianity—that which is heavenly.

The Apostle speaks of repentance from dead works*, faith in God, of the doctrine of washings, of imposition of hands, of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.  These things were all known before the incarnation of Christ.  The faith he speaks of is faith in God, not personal faith in our Lord Jesus Christ.  The washings refer to Jewish purifications, not Christian baptism.  The laying on of hands refers to the way by which the Israelite identified himself as the offerer with the victim he presented.  Resurrection is of the dead, not from among the dead as in Christianity.

The Apostle does not ask us to deny any of the OT truths, but to leave the partial light and go on to the full light of Christianity—perfection (completeness).  To go back to these things would be laying again “a foundation.”  Not, indeed, “the foundation,” as if it were the foundation of Christianity, but rather “a foundation” of Jewish things.

- Hamilton Smith


Poster’s notes may or may not be of the author’s conclusion and are intended to promote understanding and correspondence in sharing the “Word of Truth”:

* “those who cling to traditional and religious ritual”: the issue concerning the practical use of the prior dispensational doctrines containing ordinances and statutes deriving from the “Law” are not necessarily attempted out of disregard to Scripture, but are rather out of ignorance concerning present doctrine related to its discontinuance (Heb 10:9).  It should also be realized that even Israel, to whom only was the Law ever given, cannot presently practice its contents rightfully, it being “taken away.”  Of course this does not include Jewish traditions which are not of the Law itself.

* “sensuous religion”: that relating directly to the senses (physical flesh) but not to the spirit or soul; not that this was wrong when in accordance with the Law’s statues and ordinances, which was required of the Jew at that time.  That which existed in the prior dispensation (conditional forgiveness according to man’s works) was intended to promote that which is in the present dispensation (unconditional forgiveness according to God’s works); thus contrasting the two Covenants for clarification and understanding.

* ”blinded of the Gospel of grace”: the often attempts of the Judaizers to mix the Law of Moses and the Gospel of Christ produced confusion (“bewitched” i.e. Gal 3:1), which is often evidenced even in today’s Christendom (Judeo-Christian doctrine is a concept which attempts to produce an admixture of the two dispensations).

* “repentance from dead works”: that is, works of death for repentance, “a repentance which arose from and was signified by the sacrifices of slain beasts.” John Gill
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By Chris Isidore and Peter Valdes-Dapena   @CNNMoney

It's the new super hybrid Regera that Swedish car maker Koenigsegg unveiled at the Geneva Auto Show on Tuesday.

Regera means "to reign" in Swedish and the car is due to go in production later this year. Deliveries are expected to start next year.

But only 80 of the cars expected to be built over the next five years, and the price tag is expected to be about $1.9 million each. The company has already started taking orders.

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Theology Forum / Re: How To Get To Heaven When You Die
« Last post by Red Baker on Today at 12:41:05 PM »
Where is heaven?

Up and far above all. 

Acts 1:10

  .
  And while they looked stedfastly toward heaven as he went UP, behold, two men stood by in white apparel:"

Ephesians 1:20,21

  .
  " Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come:

But our promised inheritance is the world to come~which shall be created after the resurrection and judgment of the last day.
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Theology Forum / Re: A study on the nature of eternal life
« Last post by Red Baker on Today at 12:29:11 PM »
No one has to be perfect in obedience, that is what Christ's obedience being imputed to our account is all about.

I would like for you to enlarge upon upon this doctrine concerning the imputed righteousness of Christ to us. 

Mainly~ Is this what gives us the right to eternal life?

SwordMaster this was for you~a few post back. Maybe you missed it by accident.  You and Thaddeus both can answer it.  But, I see that Thaddeus has for the most part after I just went back over and read several post.  I will comment after you answer this post.   
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Theology Forum / Re: How To Get To Heaven When You Die
« Last post by Luke2427 on Today at 12:01:17 PM »
ARE YOU 100% SURE THAT IF YOU DIED TODAY THAT YOU WOULD GO TO HEAVEN?

There are some things that you should know:

1. Realize that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior:

Ro 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"

Ro 3:10 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"

This all began with the story of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. God created them perfect, there was no death or sorrow. God told them not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. They disobeyed God and as a result, sin entered into the world. The pain which this world sees is the result of sin.

2. Because of our sins, we die both spiritually and physically, but God sent His Son to die so that you can have a chance not to have to go to hell by accepting what He did on the cross for you:

Ro 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

Ro 5:8 "But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. for us."

Every person who has ever lived is a sinner and is not righteous because we do bad things. A sin is a crime against God, just as if you steal something at the store, it is punishable by going to jail. It's the same thing with sin. Even if we lie one time, the punishment is hell, which is a prison for those who commit crimes against God.  That’s because you must be perfect in order to get to heaven. No matter how well you live your life from then on, you have already committed a sin which will be punished if you are not pardoned. If you commit a crime, and then live as a good citizen you still will go to jail for the crime you committed. Right? Just as the president can pardon a crime so you won't go to jail, Jesus can pardon your sins so that you do not go to hell, and can go to heaven when you die.

3. If you will Admit to Jesus Christ that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior, Believe in your heart that He died on the cross and rose from the dead and Accept Him as your Lord and Savior and you will be forgiven and taken to heaven to be with Him when you die.

Joh 1:12 “But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name”

Ro 10:9,10 "that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.."

You cannot get to heaven by being a good person, going to church, baptism or any other way other than by turning to Jesus, believing in your heart that He died on the cross and rose from the dead for your sins and placing your trust in Him. While these are good things to do, some people believe that they will get to heaven if they do these things, but the bible says that there is only one way to heaven and that is through receiving what Jesus Christ did on the cross for you.

Will you do that today? If you will, you can be 100% sure that you will go to heaven when you die.

DO YOU BELIEVE THAT JESUS CHRIST DIED ON THE CROSS AND ROSE FROM THE DEAD FOR YOUR SINS?

ARE YOU WILLING TO TURN TO JESUS CHRIST FOR SALVATION?

4. If you are willing to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and believe it with all of your heart, you could pray something like this to God from your heart:

"Dear Lord Jesus, I believe that You died on the Cross and Rose from the dead for my sins. I ask you to come into my heart and forgive me for my sins, save me, take me to be with You when I die. I now receive You as my Lord and Savior. Thank You for saving me.  In Jesus holy name, Amen."

If you have placed your faith in Jesus Christ and meant it with all of your heart, you are now a child of God and will go to heaven. 

Now that you are on your way to heaven, you should attend a bible believing church and follow in baptism.
Where is heaven?
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Theology Forum / Re: How To Get To Heaven When You Die
« Last post by arold10 on Today at 11:42:35 AM »
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Guys, before you take this post seriously. Frodo is a serial spammer. He was banned from Newgrounds some time ago for this same post. If you read the Google hits on this first post you'll see he's trolling to the choir here and everywhere that he can. He's not serious he's spamming.

Just so you know. He has a history.

It's quite inconceivable that somebody would go around and do this kind of thing with an issue that's so important. This type of behavior reminds me of spammers who are using forum posting as a way to get back-links, they'll post the same stuff over and over through various forums.
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Catholic Forum / Re: Papal Infallibility - for Bill Velek
« Last post by winsome on Today at 11:38:57 AM »
Thanks, winsome.  You've given me a lot to think about and many scriptures to look up.  I'll do that as soon as I can, and will get back to this thread later if I have any further questions.

Your brother in Christ,

Bill Velek

You're welcome.

I will be away for a few days but I will catch up with any questions when I return.

God bless
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