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Theology Forum / Re: Sola scriptura
« Last post by TruthScientist on Yesterday at 08:59:42 PM »
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Does the Scripture explain Avogadro's number?

6.02e+23 as in the number of atoms that any mole of anything contains. Lol- surprises me to see that in a thread like this but I understand what you are saying.



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Posted by: Wycliffes_Shillelagh
« on: Yesterday at 11:14:30 PM » Insert Quote
Quote from: LexKnight on Yesterday at 05:29:46 PM
From what I understand, Sola Scriptura is the term to describe the belief that the written Scriptures are the sole Authority of Truth on this earth, and it came after they broke away from the roman church, or thought they did at least. A "solution" in response to men adding their own opinions as God breathed.

What the Pontiff did was surely an extreme in regards to truth, yeah, but I posit Sola Scriptura is another extreme. There needs to be balance, and the command is to not add to, nor to take away, from His Words.

If God is still speaking today, surely He's still revealing Truth to His people. You may say we have the Bible and that's enough. We have the most accessibility to the Scriptures mankind ever had, and we have 40k different denominations and different interpretations and teachings of the Scriptures, from the nature of apostles to the rapture of the believers, even if women are allowed to wear pants. We still need Him like mankind always has.

The Bible is definitely the measuring standard of Truth, I'd say, like the speed of light in a certain time is the standard of a kilometer, and it's also the most Complete collection of The Truth and revelation of God's Will we have, but we can't forget the Spirit of God, prophecies and prophets, revelations given to His people today.

In short, I honestly believe Sola Scriptura is bologna, but I can't blame someone for wanting to stick with the Bible, because it really does have all you need to grow well, provided you don't read things in it.
This.  Just this.  Very well said.

This sums it it perfect for me as well.

yes God is still revealing truth today as He always has... but not some new truth... we have all we need to get out of this mess and where He has promised us we can go...  He reveals personal truths about personal situations, He reveals things about current events and even will warn when things are coming but not one things will be revealed that is needful that has not been revealed... anyone who gives serious study to the bibe knows that it is inexhaustible...  the knowledge can not be presumed, he can it is like Jesus did with the little boys basket, He takes it and pulls meat out of meat and bread out of bread to feed times the perceived worth and have abundance left over...
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Theology Forum / Re: Sola scriptura
« Last post by Jd34 on Yesterday at 08:55:55 PM »
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Does the Scripture explain Avogadro's number?

6.02e+23 as in the number of atoms that any mole of anything contains. Lol- surprises me to see that in a thread like this but I understand what you are saying.



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Posted by: Wycliffes_Shillelagh
« on: Yesterday at 11:14:30 PM » Insert Quote
Quote from: LexKnight on Yesterday at 05:29:46 PM
From what I understand, Sola Scriptura is the term to describe the belief that the written Scriptures are the sole Authority of Truth on this earth, and it came after they broke away from the roman church, or thought they did at least. A "solution" in response to men adding their own opinions as God breathed.

What the Pontiff did was surely an extreme in regards to truth, yeah, but I posit Sola Scriptura is another extreme. There needs to be balance, and the command is to not add to, nor to take away, from His Words.

If God is still speaking today, surely He's still revealing Truth to His people. You may say we have the Bible and that's enough. We have the most accessibility to the Scriptures mankind ever had, and we have 40k different denominations and different interpretations and teachings of the Scriptures, from the nature of apostles to the rapture of the believers, even if women are allowed to wear pants. We still need Him like mankind always has.

The Bible is definitely the measuring standard of Truth, I'd say, like the speed of light in a certain time is the standard of a kilometer, and it's also the most Complete collection of The Truth and revelation of God's Will we have, but we can't forget the Spirit of God, prophecies and prophets, revelations given to His people today.

In short, I honestly believe Sola Scriptura is bologna, but I can't blame someone for wanting to stick with the Bible, because it really does have all you need to grow well, provided you don't read things in it.
This.  Just this.  Very well said.

This sums it it perfect for me as well.

the scripture does not tell you what color to paint your house or what toilet paper to buy...free will... if one wanted to know that number the scientist or astronomer who got it did because God allowed it so you could get it...  what does it have to do with our salvation, that is the purpose of the bible... to witness Him and His plan for us...  that number has nothing to do with that does it...  the bible does not say how tall God is or what He likes to eat, you can ask when you get to heaven...

No, but the Holy Spirit puts you in your place- where you stand in the world that we know!

"I pray that all that entertains this message board can know that God is a part of their life's"
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Theology Forum / Re: Sola scriptura
« Last post by TruthScientist on Yesterday at 08:51:07 PM »
I can not read Hebrew, Aramaic or Greek - the original language of our scripture in which I can consider to be the infallible word of God. But when we speak in terms of scripture, all I know is our modern day translations in English and given the fact that there are soooo many different translations which many word things differently should tell you something.

The majority of the time, the message is the same but the impact is different.

I choose the KJV  but it is inconceivable for me to think that it is perfect in every way in the same way that I know God to be.  However, it is the most perfect thing that I can hold in my hand.

So can any of you say that the modern bible that you read is perfect in every way? Even a misplaced comma in the editing process can change the meaning of things.  In my mind, in order for the word to be perfect, then God would have had to write it Himself or turn the authors into robots and hand pic every word. Jesus Himself wrote nothing.

As far a I am concerned, Sola Scriptura is nonsense.

this is why it has to be the bible and Holy Spirit...  they support each other and they point to God the father and God the son...
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General Discussion Forum / Re: The Bible - The Canon of 66 Books
« Last post by fish153 on Yesterday at 08:49:23 PM »
notreligus--

Not heretical at all. I've shared this before because for me it is kind of a confirmation of the 66 book canon.  I know that the Chapters and verses of the Bible are not supposed to be inspired---as the original manuscripts did not have chapters or verses.  But I find this fact extremely interesting:

The Bible has 66 books-- 39 in the Old Testament, and 27 in the New Testament.

Very close to the middle of these 66 books lies a book called Isaiah which has 66 chapters.

The first 39 chapters of this book deal mostly with wrath and judgment.  The next 27 chapters deal almost exclusively
with Grace and Mercy, and the promise of the coming Messiah.  In fact Chapter 40 starts with the words "Comfort ye, Comfort ye
my people saith the Lord
". (Is. 40:1)

It seems to me to be more than a coincidence that there are 66 books in the Bible, divided into 39 and 27 books, and that within those books lies a book with 66 chapters, divided into 39 and 27 chapters.

God is truly amazing!
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Theology Forum / Re: Does God owe us Salvation?
« Last post by e.r.m. on Yesterday at 08:49:18 PM »
TruthScientist,
                           I agree.
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Theology Forum / Re: Sola scriptura
« Last post by TruthScientist on Yesterday at 08:47:48 PM »
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Does the Scripture explain Avogadro's number?

6.02e+23 as in the number of atoms that any mole of anything contains. Lol- surprises me to see that in a thread like this but I understand what you are saying.



Quote
Posted by: Wycliffes_Shillelagh
« on: Yesterday at 11:14:30 PM » Insert Quote
Quote from: LexKnight on Yesterday at 05:29:46 PM
From what I understand, Sola Scriptura is the term to describe the belief that the written Scriptures are the sole Authority of Truth on this earth, and it came after they broke away from the roman church, or thought they did at least. A "solution" in response to men adding their own opinions as God breathed.

What the Pontiff did was surely an extreme in regards to truth, yeah, but I posit Sola Scriptura is another extreme. There needs to be balance, and the command is to not add to, nor to take away, from His Words.

If God is still speaking today, surely He's still revealing Truth to His people. You may say we have the Bible and that's enough. We have the most accessibility to the Scriptures mankind ever had, and we have 40k different denominations and different interpretations and teachings of the Scriptures, from the nature of apostles to the rapture of the believers, even if women are allowed to wear pants. We still need Him like mankind always has.

The Bible is definitely the measuring standard of Truth, I'd say, like the speed of light in a certain time is the standard of a kilometer, and it's also the most Complete collection of The Truth and revelation of God's Will we have, but we can't forget the Spirit of God, prophecies and prophets, revelations given to His people today.

In short, I honestly believe Sola Scriptura is bologna, but I can't blame someone for wanting to stick with the Bible, because it really does have all you need to grow well, provided you don't read things in it.
This.  Just this.  Very well said.

This sums it it perfect for me as well.

the scripture does not tell you what color to paint your house or what toilet paper to buy...free will... if one wanted to know that number the scientist or astronomer who got it did because God allowed it so you could get it...  what does it have to do with our salvation, that is the purpose of the bible... to witness Him and His plan for us...  that number has nothing to do with that does it...  the bible does not say how tall God is or what He likes to eat, you can ask when you get to heaven...
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Theology Forum / Re: Does God owe us Salvation?
« Last post by TruthScientist on Yesterday at 08:42:21 PM »
God owes us nothing. Everything He gives us is because He loves us and is gracious to us. Him expecting certain responses to dispense salvation is part of His love and grace.

You can't expect God to dispense salvation to some who is disobedient.

disobedient people are the only ones who can be saved so that they can become obedient to salvation...  He already saved you, have you disobeyed since being saved, I have...  repent and He is faithful to forgive you...
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Theology Forum / Re: Does God owe us Salvation?
« Last post by TruthScientist on Yesterday at 08:39:22 PM »
He definitely owes us salvation, not according as deserving it , but because HE promised it. And God does not lie.

Salvation is only for people who are obedient.

obedience evolves from love...if a person never learns to love according to God his works are in vain...  works that are not of faith are dead...a person who does not love will not get much for all his works because much of them may be to be seen, for the ulterior sake of gain and other things that the imagination contrives... which is why the bible tells us to not judge because we can not see the intent of the heart...  this is what counts to God, not a multitude of works as some will have done in the church but were never saved but came...  they may have even confessed but God saw it not as being from the heart and accepted it not as under the blood...

you have to be careful relying on works my friends the works of man are shaky at best if not sent under the guidance of God...  And there are secret works and God even uses us sometimes without our knowing it, these are accounted to our account that will be judged at the bema...

Prove your church has apostolic succession. You don't love God if you refuse to be near him in apostolic succession.

where does the bible say I need more than to be joined together with to or three others and He will be with us...  where does it say that salvation is necessary to do what ever you say up above?
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Theology Forum / Re: Sola scriptura
« Last post by Jd34 on Yesterday at 08:38:30 PM »
c'mon man, stop cherry picking...when you quote a scripture at least quote the whole thing, then put the part you want to stand out in bold.

If you desire for me to speak with you on any subject, then use speech that is appropriate when addressing an elder, or any man as far as that goes.  This is not ESPN, where men do not think soberly, and with godliness.  At least I use scriptures, more than I can say concerning men like you. Now, if you desire to talk soberly, then let us to do so on any subject, if not, then do not address me, for I have no time for people who not desire to follow examples left for us by holy men and women of old.

What do you say Red Baker?  Are the words that you quote the actual  scripture that you quote from your bible perfect? Perfect as God?

Just asking is all  ::giggle::

Lol lol lol
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Theology Forum / Re: Does God owe us Salvation?
« Last post by TruthScientist on Yesterday at 08:36:58 PM »
God owes us nothing. Everything He gives us is because He loves us and is gracious to us. Him expecting certain responses to dispense salvation is part of His love and grace.

you are right He actually does not owe us ANYTHING...but of course He is God and a good God...  he is merciful and gracious... 

that being said He is also righteous, faithful, no liar and a convent keeper...  had He not provided a savior He would have been a liar and we on our way to the lake that burns forever maybe... how would we know?  if He is not true?  it is hard to see but He "watches over His word to perform it"
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