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Sex in Marriage Discussions and Topics / Re: New need help
« Last post by planetshaker on Yesterday at 08:18:42 PM »
I've myself researched and study biblical grounds for divorce. You can divorce if adutry, abandonment  from non believer, or one's spouse dies. Church doctrine may vary church to church. The biggest problem is who is right? The problem is not doctrine but implementing them in real life situations. This is not advice this is giving someome prison time for making an unwise choice.

If there is no love in this marriage no amount of good christian advise no matter how well intended is going to make a difference.

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Theology Forum / Re: So why do you think some churches are...
« Last post by gr8gracethrufaith on Yesterday at 08:17:54 PM »
gr8gracethrufaith,
                                 You're speaking out reformation rhetoric as if from a script. Think scripturally. No one's faith is in being dunked in a tank. That's a straw man argument. Our faith is in God who uses baptism for forgiveness of sins, just like the Israelites faith was not in the bronze serpent, but in God who used the serpent.

Numbers 21:8-9.

God is every bit as gracious (which is what grace is, God's graciousness toward us) with Him using baptism,  than under your paradigm. You believe grace = lack of participation on our part. That's not scriptural.  Before you run to Ephesians 2:8-9 to use works, look up what works means scripturally.
You are reciting reformation ideology. 1st century Christianity was not affected by the reformation and saw things differently.

No, I am speaking doctrine and not from a script, but from the word,. God does not "make us believe." God does not " make us be dunked in a tank."

God asks us to believe to be saved. He has done the work and He asks us to believe the work that He has done. The thief on the cross( which we can't use because it proves your religion) was never dunked in water. Just explain it away.....Grace has always been the way God saves people.
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Devotionals / Re: Trusting & Resting In God Alone
« Last post by Barnabas93 on Yesterday at 08:05:01 PM »
I find it hard to trust God after I've sinned. It says in 1 Jn if we confess and repent, He will forgive us. I have a hard time accepting His forgiveness. It seems like that barrier is still there. I've been told to accept God's forgiveness and to forgive myself.
The above was a wonderful devotional. I'll keep praying for myself and others to trust God more fully.
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End Times Forum / Re: Rapture is a no-brainer!
« Last post by kaoticprofit on Yesterday at 08:00:03 PM »
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Today there remains "one stone upon another," in the Wailing Wall.
I've used this argument myself, but I stopped because:

1) The Wailing Wall was never part of the temple.  It was only ever a retaining wall.
2) Recent archaeological findings show that it may have been build after the destruction of Herod's temple.

Jarrod

I don't believe the wall was built after Herod's temple was destroyed.  People aren't sure if it's the retaining wall of Herod's or Solomon's temple.  In any case, the stones are still, "one upon another."
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Theology Forum / Re: So why do you think some churches are...
« Last post by e.r.m. on Yesterday at 07:53:54 PM »
gr8gracethrufaith,
                                 You're speaking out reformation rhetoric as if from a script. Think scripturally. No one's faith is in being dunked in a tank. That's a straw man argument. Our faith is in God who uses baptism for forgiveness of sins, just like the Israelites faith was not in the bronze serpent, but in God who used the serpent.

Numbers 21:8-9.

God is every bit as gracious (which is what grace is, God's graciousness toward us) with Him using baptism,  than under your paradigm. You believe grace = lack of participation on our part. That's not scriptural.  Before you run to Ephesians 2:8-9 to use works, look up what works means scripturally.
You are reciting reformation ideology. 1st century Christianity was not affected by the reformation and saw things differently.

Paul spent a good amount of time making sure people understood that circumcision is not salvific. Paul left baptism completely alone. He had the opportunity and the verbal skills discredit baptism from being salvific, as he did with circumcision, but he didn't.
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Theology Forum / Re: So why do you think some churches are...
« Last post by Jaime on Yesterday at 07:43:23 PM »
Unmerited favor. We merit none of our salvation.

Oh yeah, almost forgot. ** warning charlie24 and gr8gracethrufaith think I am a heretic, proceed at your own risk.
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Theology Forum / Re: So why do you think some churches are...
« Last post by gr8gracethrufaith on Yesterday at 07:37:43 PM »
**Warning, chrlie24 and gr8gracethrufaith believe I am a heretic. Proceed at your own risk**

I said we are saved by grace through faith. Do we disagree? It is absolutely all by the grace of God.

And baptism is NOT a work anymore than confessing with our lips. I do not believe we earn any part or work for our salvation. Your assessment is wrong about my beliefs. Or innmy vernacular, horse hockey. Again,Jesus did NOt say he that believes and is saved shall be baptized. Just sayin'.

What is your definition of Grace?
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Theology Forum / Re: So why do you think some churches are...
« Last post by Jaime on Yesterday at 07:26:55 PM »
**Warning, chrlie24 and gr8gracethrufaith believe I am a heretic. Proceed at your own risk**

I said we are saved by grace through faith. Do we disagree? It is absolutely all by the grace of God.

And baptism is NOT a work anymore than confessing with our lips. I do not believe we earn any part or work for our salvation. Your assessment is wrong about my beliefs. Or innmy vernacular, horse hockey. Again,Jesus did NOt say he that believes and is saved shall be baptized. Just sayin'.
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Theology Forum / Re: So why do you think some churches are...
« Last post by gr8gracethrufaith on Yesterday at 07:23:26 PM »
I will gladly add the words "most here" if most agree with you and Charlie, and yes that is sad indeed. The broad and erroneous way IS popular.

It is why most will not agree to,"Faith alone in Christ alone." Your safe Jamie, most will not agree with me. Most will agree with you and the religion. Faith alone in Christ alone is the most attacked and hated belief there is.

We basically have 2 theologies in Christiandom today.

1. "If you don't have works, you will lose salvation."

2. "If you don't have works, you were never really saved."

Which basically is one theology, just saying it in a different way...semantics.

Eternal security, and faith alone in Christ alone is the most attacked and antagonized belief around. Which is part of the reason I believe it.
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Catholic Forum / Re: Why would anyone become Catholic?
« Last post by mclees8 on Yesterday at 07:23:23 PM »
Then it is noted on this day you have heard the truth and seen it.




All I have heard this day from you, Mike, is pure opinion that has no basis in any revelation from God, and an echo of the iconoclast heresy.
 

Well I guess I can accept the Iconoclast part,  but there is no heresy based on all that the Lord taught of the Holy Spirit making our relationship personal and not religious shows. This film is typical of promoting Catholicism but outward religion does not promote Christ. It is the Holy Spirit in us that promotes Christ. It is the Holy spirit that compels us to seek His righteousness.
 
The apostles should always be our first and foremost examples of personal faith. I am not some heretic promoting lies but the truth.


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