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Theology Forum / Re: Are prophets still among us today?.......
« Last post by TruthScientist on Yesterday at 04:01:12 PM »
do you know that the word of God is "settled in heaven"...  He is immutable, He changeth not... 

what is it that you think is a mystery about what this bible is all about redemption...  What else do you think He needs to tell us?
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Christian Politics Forum / Re: How many examples does it take?
« Last post by TruthScientist on Yesterday at 03:58:08 PM »
just had a good laugh... 

http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2015/05/02/403865824/texas-governor-deploys-state-guard-to-stave-off-obama-takeover

Obama is not the best president we have had but he is not stupid either... what man in his right mind would want to stay in charge of the USA in the condition it is now for 12 years...  I wonder about even candidates but I know that it is mainly the parties who are being prostituted by big business...

you think the last 8 years were badd...  hang around for the next 4 after '16 regardless of who wins...



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Theology Forum / Re: Does God talk to you?
« Last post by Alan on Yesterday at 03:54:12 PM »
There are a few good topics here today but do you think God speaks to us personally in a very supernatural way. We have heard the song " I come to the garden alone and walks with me and talks with me. I am sure that many of do come to the garden alone,  but I wonder if any one here  can attest that he makes His presence know to them so real it is as he Is the  room with you talking to about our needs not in some general way but in a direct way so that your jaw drops . If am talking in riddles I don't meant to. I believe the Lord wants to be a personal friend and Lord that even in a moment of our weaknesses he can speak to us  and deal directly with what you did the night  before and he has done this many times through my devotions that I only read once a day according to the date of lesson.  He knows exactly what you are struggling with and will address it so you cannot deny how much a deeply cares for us individually.

Yes, the Lord speaks to His children. I hear Him in His word, and within my spirit, and I have heard him audibly, also...what a miracle that was!


Amen  ::nodding::
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Christian Politics Forum / Re: How many examples does it take?
« Last post by TruthScientist on Yesterday at 03:52:45 PM »
LBJ's slave masters con seems to have worked. It was perfectly orchestrated. When the GOP complained about the truth of what was happening, they were successfully pigeon holed as racists. An ingenious AND exceedingly insidious plan.

Black conservatives that have overcome their circumstances and remained conservative are labeled as "not black enough". More of the slave master's con gone to seed.

racial biasness has seldom been along political lines... no one party can lay claim to doing anything for blacks except what was politically expedient as it is today...  not all the blame, not even most of it can be laid with one party...  it was and always has been systemic...

you can not legislate racism or racial hatred...  you can sit a person in a chair underneath a banner that says anything you want, but the it is the mind of that person that makes the difference...  there is not a lot of motivation for bigots to change...  certainly not politics...
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Theology Forum / Re: Are prophets still among us today?.......
« Last post by Alan on Yesterday at 03:48:15 PM »
I agree wholeheartedly that the scriptures must not be taken as the wisdom of men, hence my last reply. We have already concurred as of recent that Paul does not contradict himself, so if we look at 1 Cor 14:5 it says: Now I want you all to speak in tongues, but even more to prophesy. The one who prophesies is greater than the one who speaks in tongues, unless someone interprets, so that the church may be built up.


So if Paul is encouraging the church to prophesy, when did that come to an end, after the church of corinth?

If it has not come to an end, then why is nobody here able to give examples of prophets and their prophesies?
How difficult can it be? After 2000 years church development our records should flow over with examples.
What new revelation did the church fail to pick up in the last 2 millenia?


Why are you so bent on prophecy being about new church revelation?


1 Cor 14;3 But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men edification, and exhortation, and consolation.


Prophecies can be a very personal thing to each individual for the purposes of edifying, exhorting, and comforting, not necessarily about foretelling future events but still prophecies nonetheless.

Ah diluting the term "prophesy".
Well, obviously we are talking about prophets and prophesies here.

Sure pastors and social workers too edify, exhort and comfort. Perhaps you do the same.
But that doesn't mean you are a prophet or should call yourself one.
This topic is about if prophets are still among us today.
The topic is not about if people who edify, exhort and comfort are still among us.

Clearly the topic is talking about prophets in the likes of Eliah, Jeremiah, Nehemiah, Daniel, Amos, etc.
They are called prophets because they were messengers of God, through whose mouth God spoke to people, predicting future events, humble and holy men in both words and deeds, often not seeking the position of prophet, sometimes performing miracles and never ever bringing a prophesy that did not come true.

So where are all these prophets you claim are among us today, or the prophets and their prophesies over the past 2000 years?


Is one that prophecies not a prophet?


I was not attempting to water down the meaning of prophet, I was simply referring to the gift of prophecy. If you are referring to the office gift of prophet, or calling of the prophet to the church then we may be talking about two different things, but I would also not reject that their are 5 five ministers active in these days.

My husband is used a fair amount in giving prophecies to people, and has been told more than once that he will be used more in the future, but I wouldnt say he is a prophet, and I have never met anyone who seemed to be a prophet as in he gave predictions for the future.  I suppose the only way to tell would be if their predictions constantly came true. I dont mean wishy washy ones either that could mean anything if you made them, but specific ones that predicted specific events.
 

 All I am saying chosen is that God has made known all mysteries and there will be no prophets that will come and give any thing that supersedes present doctrine
How do you know that?
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Catholic Forum / Re: PURGATORY
« Last post by skeeter on Yesterday at 02:58:03 PM »
It's about people when they are judged.

 16 “Do you not know that you are God's temple and that God's Spirit dwells in you?”
 17 “If any one destroys God's temple, God will destroy him. For God's temple is holy, and that temple you are.”
1Cor 3:10-17 covers the three types of people and their destinations on judgement (for the Day will disclose it, because it will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test what sort of work each one has done.”)

See also Mt 25:31-46 and James 1:19-4:12
How many destinations are there?
Immediately - three - heaven hell & purgatory
Ultimately - two - heaven & hell
And when are these destinations applied?
Before or during judgment?
Sentences are normally applied after judgement. Do you think it would be different in this case?
Then how many judgments are there?
Two.

There is a particular judgment for each individual when they die. Scripture induicates there will be  an immedate reward or punishment at death. (Lk 16:22, 22:43, Mt 16:26 2Cor 5:8, Phil 1:23, Heb 9:27, 12:23)

Then there will be a last judgment & the resurrection at the end of time when Christ returns in glory (Jn 5:28-29, Mt 25:31-46)
have you looked up each of these verses (in bold) and know how they relate to a particular judgment for each individual and a reward or punishment?

Can you explain it on here for each verse you quoted?  Most I find no connection.  They make me wonder if I'm reading the bk/chpt/vs you meant to post.  You do know that Luke 16 below relates to pre-crucifixion and resurrection, right?


luke 16
22 So it was that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels to Abraham’s bosom. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.

luke 22
43 Then an angel appeared to Him from heaven, strengthening Him.

matthew 16
26 For what profit is it to a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul? Or what will a man give in exchange for his soul?

2 Corinthians 5
8 But Jesus, being aware of it, said to them, “O you of little faith, why do you reason among yourselves because you have brought no bread?

Philippians 1
23 For I am hard-pressed between the two, having a desire to depart and be with Christ, which is far better

hebrews 9

27 And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment,

hebrews 12
23 to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect

matthew 25
33 And He will set the sheep on His right hand, but the goats on the left

john 5
28 Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming in which all who are in the graves will hear His voice


I thought I'd pop in this verse -

note John 5:24

24 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.
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Christian Politics Forum / Re: How many examples does it take?
« Last post by Jaime on Yesterday at 02:38:23 PM »
LBJ's slave masters con seems to have worked. It was perfectly orchestrated. When the GOP complained about the truth of what was happening, they were successfully pigeon holed as racists. An ingenious AND exceedingly insidious plan.

Black conservatives that have overcome their circumstances and remained conservative are labeled as "not black enough". More of the slave master's con gone to seed.
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Theology Forum / The Court Room Scene
« Last post by Reformer on Yesterday at 02:33:04 PM »
REFORMATION RUMBLINGS
BUFF SCOTT, JR.
_______________________________
 The Court Room Scene
 
    It was almost like a scene out of the movies when the Judge gave his ear to the stranger’s request. The stranger suddenly appeared in the Court Room while the trial of a man accused of murder was being held.

   The accused had a colorful history. He was raised in a large family and in the poorest part of town. Physically and verbally abused by his father, he grew up with low self-esteem. His mother turned to prostitution. Education was not encouraged. Illiteracy among his class was common.

    Having no place to turn and no one to place his hopes in, he associated himself with the scurvy class of his neighborhood. Being influenced by the only friends he had, he turned to drugs, alcohol, robbery, general law-breaking, and finally murder.

     He had lost any chance of hope. At this moment, standing before the Judge, his whole life reappeared before him. He felt nothing but despair. Before the Judge pronounced the sentence, the stranger who had entered the Court Room earlier rose to his feet and said, “Your Honor, please, I beg to speak a few words in defense of the accused.” The Judge, set back by the stranger’s request, replied, “Sir, this is legally unusual. I don’t know who you are or where you came from, but I’m curious as to what you have to say. So speak your peace.”

     “Your Honor,” the stranger said, “I know this man, and I’m personally acquainted with his life’s history and why and how it lapsed to the point it now rests. He deserves the sentence you’re about to place upon him.” The Judge’s interest in the stranger’s remarks grew stronger, and he added, “Yes, I’m still listening, continue.”

     “Your Honor, while my words may seem baffling, I love this man. I love him so much, in fact, I want to die in his stead. I beg you, Your Honor, take my life for his. Let this man live.” The whole Court Room stood at attention. The Judge wiped tears from his eyes, hesitated a few moments, and then replied, “This Court honors and approves your request, Sir. Release the murderer and arrest the stranger. Court dismissed.”
______

     “For this is how God loved the world: He gave His beloved Son that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life” (John 3:16).

     “Greater love has no one than this, that someone lays down his life for his friends” (John 15:13).
 _____

     BELIEVERS IN NEPAL— According to a diversity of Christian sources, including a Christian evangelist I’m personally acquainted with, many Christians in NEPAL have died in the earthquake, and many more are without “daily bread”—food, water, adequate shelter. Most of their meeting places have been demolished.

    Please consider sending financial help to the destitute believers. Reuben Rai is an evangelist and Christian leader I and another Brother helped support early in his efforts to reach the unreached and establish house meetings. His efforts have been quite successful. He is truly a man of God. Please consider sending financial help to the destitute believers there through him. He is fully trustworthy. Send your help via Western Union to REUBEN RAI, Kathmandu, Nepal. His email address is: tankrai@gmail.com .—Buff.   
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Christian Politics Forum / Re: How many examples does it take?
« Last post by TruthScientist on Yesterday at 02:31:38 PM »
Equality of opportunity- Yes, T.S., that is the need. Not imposed opportunity that angers and divides. Not handouts creating dependency. This "progressive" program denies opportunity. Those that maintain said program are worse than drug dealers. They have folks hooked, needing their "fix". It's all as evil as evil gets, IMO.

yes that is true...  but democrats alone can not be blamed for the problem that welfare has caused... 

remember in 1860 something when the emancipation proclamation was given, many blacks left the plantations and after a few days realized that they had no where to go and no way to get substance...  so they turned around and walked back down those dusty roads with they heads down begging massa to be let back into the fold...  the freeing of black people was and has always been paperwork and lip service...  even in the 60s when the war on poverty was stated...  the first thing that should have been down was to educate blacks... to bring them up to the standard of this nation.  but the old adages; like keeping them ignorant, barefoot and pregnant and others kept things at status quo
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Catholic Forum / Re: Hellish good works !?
« Last post by Buster D Body Crab on Yesterday at 02:31:18 PM »
 
seeing as the majority are on the broad road to hell are good works wasted or will the heat and flames be turned down in compensation - wincam
Good works here on earth by the living are what will lessen the time served by the poor souls in purgatory.
What's your point then about works generally?
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