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Theology Forum / Re: Forgiveness is Not Enough
« Last post by RB on Today at 08:16:39 AM »
One last thing, you got the Blasphemy of the Spirit wrong there...
That he did, but, much more than that~his whole post is incorrect, and against the testimony of the holy scriptures.
No greater act of love can you do for a person is to see that person has the guarantee of salvation
I love my children and grandchildren, yet it is not in my power to guarantee salvation for them, or even move them toward that end. The only power I have  is to live the truth before them, so that "if" God regenerate them, then they will be  able come to the knowledge of the truth, so that they can be saved in a practical sense of having the true understanding of the truth, overall considered.  1 Corinthians 7:16; 1st Peter 3:1; etc.
Just think of the horrors of hell that last forever and sometimes I feel eternity is too great a price to pay for any sin. Think of it of what eternity means--FOREVER WITHOUT END!
Really? ONLY the righteous have eternal life, the wicked shall be cast into lake of fire, which IS the second DEATH. Even Jesus taught plainly that the wicked and unbelievers shall PERISH, That well known scripture of John 3:16, and others as well. Do word search on the word perish, then we shall talk more, if you desire to do so.  Also, prove to me that there is a burning hell at the moment, where the wicked go according to Roman Catholicism doctrine, that many have embraced with out knowing they have done so.
People such as Kat Kerr whose spirit is regularly taken up to Heaven to receive revelations from God.
Really? prove it. Someone has a lying spirit speaking through them. The ONLY revelation Christians receive now, come directly from hard studying of the scriptures, trusting God to open our eyes in doing as we do so. Other than that, there are NONE. I'm stopping for sake of time. 
Christian Politics Forum / Re: Republicans uniting against Trump
« Last post by Jaime on Today at 08:15:15 AM »
No it's just a stupid foreign policy for the world we are in. That foreign policy might have prevented where we are 60 years ago, but however we got here, Pandora's box is open. We can't pretend it was never opened.  His foreign policy would be disasterous and usher in a speedier worldwide caliphate. A preview would be Obama's foreign policy.
And if you think Rand Paul's foreign policy is sane, then you can wear the same sign.

No doubt whatsoever that any of the GOP field will be much better than Hillary. Even Rand.

Rand's foreign policy WAS sane 50 or 60 years ago. Not even remotely sane with what we have today. However we got here, we ARE here. Like Burgess Meridith said in Grumpy Old Men, "you can wish in one hand and crap in the other."

His foreign policy is sane.  If you have been trained by neo-cons, it's like suggesting 2+2=4 when you have been taught it is 5.
Christian Politics Forum / Re: Republicans uniting against Trump
« Last post by Jaime on Today at 08:07:45 AM »
 He wants to withdraw from the trouble spots. We can't. We HAVE to get them over there. Playing nice will not endear us to the terrorists. This is a long long slog we are in.

And yes we should not give money to people that hate us. That is not what is troublesome about his foreign policy. He somehow thinks that us retreating from the world acene will satisfy the terrorists. Absolutely not! It will embolden them.
Apologetics Forum / Re: I am muslim, if you allow me the access
« Last post by LexKnight on Today at 08:06:41 AM »
Yet Islam is... The religion itself is founded in the goal for global conquest, pushing Sharia Law among the nations, all in the name of Allah. Muhammad demonstrated such thinking by his life, raiding villages and converting by the sword, Islam or death. It's a militaristic religion, and Isis, as well as others of these terrorists, are simply following commands of Muhammad.

Yeshua claims to have been the Messiah, Bahous, directly and indirectly. You see it with the woman at the well, you see it when interrogated, you even see Him claiming to be God in John 8. His apostles, those who were with him from the beginning, were not vague at all in saying He is indeed the Messiah and Son of God (and I'm not speaking of Paul per say). The earliest records we have are dated within a couple centuries of the original writings, thus saying such. You have no standing here, Bahous.

I understand why you are here, you're simply trying to convert, but I don't understand why they allow you to be here even to now. It's been done with, and AVZ did a good job in wielding, so it's time for him to move on.
Christian Politics Forum / Re: Republicans uniting against Trump
« Last post by LexKnight on Today at 07:57:40 AM »
I just did a refresher course on Paul's foreign policy, they seem reasonable. It's basically stop aiding countries that hate the US, limit foreign aids, and put a lot more focus on domestic issues. Bush sought to police the world and Obama seeks to guide the world, both neglecting the nation in the process. We can honestly do with less of that.
Apologetics Forum / Re: I am muslim, if you allow me the access
« Last post by bahous on Today at 07:52:55 AM »


So far you have had your fun trying to decapitate Christianity of Christ by disputing parts if Biblical scripture.
Well, even if you were to succeed, that would at best discredit Christianity...but that would not at all validate Islam.

it is Islam that is your religion . you must believe your true Messiah Muhammed ( SAWS) .
actually you follow Paul and not Jesus

Since that is not leading you anywhere, why not swing this discussion the other way?
I would like you to make a point why Muhammad is a better "Messiah" than Jesus.

Muhammed (SAWS) is the Messiah ; Jesus is who has announce Muhammed (SAWS) and his temple and book , kingdom . Muhammed (SAWS) is the univesel  prophet. Jesus is sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel

The Christian Messiah was born miraculously, healed people, did miracles, died on the cross, arose from the dead and was a sinless person.
He was peaceful, loving and settled His disputes with words..

because Jesus was not the Messiah; he had no power or authority. he was romain citizen. your statement demonstrates that jesus was only a prophet

The followers of Christ do not blow up planes, buildings and people and don't go out on a killing spree in villages, theaters, concerts, hotels, shopping malls and concerts. They do not execute journalists or decapitate those who disagree with their believes..

terrorism has no religion.

Why would any Christian exchange the love of Christ for the hate and violence of Islam?

you are absolutely not . i am from a country which has suffer I am of a nation that has suffered from terrorism Christians for over 150 years ( Christianity is not violent

Apologetics Forum / The Single Eye
« Last post by Netchaplain on Today at 07:49:37 AM »
When the world put the Lord Jesus to death, the sentence of death was put on all that is in it; but we have complete deliverance out of it. The Lord Jesus took me down into death on the Cross. In Him I came out the other side, as dead to the flesh and the world*. I have got a new position where He is. Where do I get my life from (Col 3:4)? The Lord Jesus in heaven! I am “accepted in the Beloved.” 

Death must be written on all, that only the Lord Jesus may be manifested. How wonderful to be called to walk through the world, and be the epistle of the Lord Jesus Christ (2Cor 3:3)! We are chosen to manifest the character, ways, spirit and temper of the Lord Jesus—“that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh” (2Cor 4:11). I am placed before my Father in all the perfectness of the Lord Jesus Himself; and He, in all His perfectness, is placed before me. Do you shrink from this? I do not ask, do you realize it? Paul would say, “Not as though I have already attained.”

If I cannot say, “to me to live is Christ,” as my object, my eye is not single. Paul could say, “This one thing I do . . .” He had no other object; he reckoned all else but refuse. It did not cost him much to give that up. If the Lord Jesus has such a place in our hearts the rest is easy (Mat 11:30—NC), though such a life passes us through trials and exercises*. If we reckon ourselves dead and risen*, we get a free, open channel between us and heaven for divine consolation to flow. As a child of God, my place is in the Lord Jesus, and there is no end to my blessing.

The Cross has settled my place in the old Adam. Will you be before God in the “day of Judgment” to answer for what you have done, or have you believed the fact that the Lord Jesus has come into this world, and taken the whole question up for you, and set you before the Father in virtue of what He has done, instead of what you have done—good or bad?

He disciplines us that we may be separated from the reign of sin, and find everything in the Lord Jesus, and Him everything to us—our all in all. But He begins the lesson with the assurance, I love you perfectly. I bring you into the desert to learn what I am, and what you are; but it is as those I have brought to Myself! He gives us a place with the Lord Jesus, but then He shows us what He is and what we are. The discipline of the way teaches this; but if He, in His love, strikes the furrows in the heart, it is that He may sow the seed which shall ripen in glory.

Are you content to be in the wilderness with nothing but the manna? Or are you saying, “We see nothing but this light food? If we want it for our journey, we shall find it every morning, and find it adequate; but if we want to settle down, it will never satisfy us. Are you content to have the flesh crucified*? Have you so tasted the love of the dying Lord Jesus, and His risen glory, as to wish for nothing else? He creates a void in order to fill it with Himself.

We learn to prove His love in the wilderness, in a way we never can in heaven: our very need brings it out to us. This world is a terrible house to live in, but an excellent school to learn in. May the Lord give the distinct consciousness that we are redeemed out of the place of sin and condemnation, and that we have a position above with our Father! That is peace and rest; then we shall have the joy of fellowship. We are as white as snow (Isa 1:18)—we are “accepted in the beloved” (Eph 1:6).

- Wm Kelly

Poster’s Opinion:
*”the flesh and the world”: the sinful nature and those who are ruled by it, which has always consisted of the general populous of mankind (Mat 7:13, 14)—hence the often scriptural phrase, “the world” (i.e. John 15:18, 19; Jam 4:4; 1John 4:5).

*”trials and exercises”: which are always for the Christian’s good, because regardless the situation (excluding willful sin, which indicates absence of rebirth), God not only foreknows all occurrences but ensures they benefit the believer (Rom 8:28). Hence the command, “Let not your heart be troubled” (John 14:1, 27).

*”reckon ourselves dead and risen”: Even if we do not consider (reckon) this so, we are still “dead and risen” with Him. The reckoning does not bring about this truth but provides mental strength and peace within our faith when reckoning. To reckon on something is to realize it and therefore walk in it.

*”the flesh crucified”: not the physical but the spiritual flesh (old man; sinful nature – Greek “sarx”, definition IV: https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/Lexicon/Lexicon.cfm?strongs=G4561&t=KJV ). In the NT when “flesh” is in reference to the physical body it is identified as being “mortal,” (Rom 8:11; 1Cor 15:53, 54; 2Cor 4:11); “vile body” (Phl 3:21), etc.
Christian Politics Forum / Re: Republicans uniting against Trump
« Last post by Jaime on Today at 07:40:46 AM »
And if you think Rand Paul's foreign policy is sane, then you can wear the same sign.

No doubt whatsoever that any of the GOP field will be much better than Hillary. Even Rand.

Rand's foreign policy WAS sane 50 or 60 years ago. Not even remotely sane with what we have today. However we got here, we ARE here. Like Burgess Meridith said in Grumpy Old Men, "you can wish in one hand and crap in the other."
General Discussion Forum / Re: Should we pray for Muslims?
« Last post by chosenone on Today at 07:37:55 AM »
Do you pray for Muslims to find Jesus?
No, and why should I? Do you have a scripture(s) exhorting me to do so? There were certain men Jesus did not pray for, and neither do I. Beside, Jesus is not lost; and, men cannot find Jesus on their own! God's Spirit come to us and speak, and said: Lazarus, "COME FORTH"~ and those who are dead in trespasses and sins, come forth, by HIS mighty power. Proof texts: John 17:9; 5:25; 11:43; Ephesians 1:19; etc.

As it happens I have a verse that says just that Red.

timothy 2 v 1-6
 2 I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people— 2 for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. 3 This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4 who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all people. This has now been witnessed to at the proper time.
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