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Theology Forum / Re: Scriptural evidence that God chooses who will believe
« Last post by 4WD on Yesterday at 11:33:36 »
God knows everything however He's not basing Election on what an individual does after they are born. He makes that clear. You ignore it!
Nothing to ignore.  You're wrong.
Theology Forum / Re: Christ's redemptive death only for some !
« Last post by Jaime on Yesterday at 11:33:04 »
Her question IS the pertinent and relative to the OP. Do YOU want to discuss the OP?
Theology Forum / Re: Christ's redemptive death only for some !
« Last post by beloved57 on Yesterday at 11:24:00 »
So in your opinion, which people are lost without hope? Apart from those who reject Jesus Christ?

Do u want to discuss the Op ?
Yup, AMO,  so long as the members keep paying the country club fees/tithe it doesn't matter much what they believe so long as they keep it to themselves.    When they start to speak out, then it's so long - just like they did back when Ellen was alive.

Just like every single denomination that has ever existed has done and does, and very often rightly so. Every denomination has doctrinal standards which must be maintained in order to establish denominational distinctness. Which is more tenable in such cases, that everyone of said denomination bow to their new beliefs, or that they leave the denomination they no longer agree with? Though the former may be attempted, the latter is of course the only logical conclusion when the former is not accomplished. Quit crying about the natural processes involved within denominations when members change their minds about what they believe.

Are you a former SDA crying about the same? 
The comments about Mark 16:16 ARE pertinent and not unscriptural. Next?
God knows everything however He's not basing Election on what an individual does after they are born. He makes that clear. You ignore it!
Homie said: "we turn aside from doing our own ideas and self and on the Sabbath come into communion with God and "delight thyself in the Lord;" you receive Gods blessing."

It is evident that Hobie hasn't been listening to the potluck and saturday afternoon conversation he has been having with his fellow SDA's...

Apparently you are saying that you have. Are you a former SDA? Or do you frequent SDA churches? If not, how do you judge such a thing?
Seventh Day Adventist Forum / Re: "Happy.........."
« Last post by Amo on Yesterday at 10:49:51 »
Yea, that's the ticket, SDA's invented the seventh day Sabbath and our round world refutes its significance. Of course, the same must apply to Sunday sacredness as well. At least those who observe the seventh day do so according to the command of the God who created this round world, and still established the seventh day Sabbath on it. You are not calling SDA's liars, you are calling God and the bible liars, based upon your truly ignorant observations and assumptions.

Nothing scriptural about it, not even close!
Theology Forum / Re: The Law of Moses Has Not Been Abolished
« Last post by Kenneth Sublett on Yesterday at 10:40:17 »
Gerhard Ebersöhn
One should be able to see <<changes in the letter of application>> of the Law, if there were. But there are none.
Now Jesus clearly taught that He did not come to destroy the Law, but to BE the Law destroyed, abolished, put away, be nailed to the cross and be killed and buried ... AND THE THIRD DAY RISE ACCORDING TO THE LAW!

Christ would rise according to the Law; it had never been destroyed or abolished or put away because Jesus rose from the dead in obedience to the Law, THE LAW!

The Law of Moses was not destroyed: you can still read it.  However, The Book of The Law was added because of Transgression and Israel was sentenced to captivity and death.  There was no SEED to drop when the nation was sieved and dispersed.  Only a small REMNANT of Israel as a remnant was left in the land.   Abraham was not a Jew.

Deut. 26:5 And thou shalt speak and say before the Lord thy God, A Aramaean ready to perish was my father, and he went down into Egypt, and sojourned there with a few, and became there a nation, great, mighty, and populous:

In the Old Testament the Aramaeans are represented as being closely akin to the Hebrews and living in northern Syria around Harran from about the 16th century bc. The Aramaeans are also mentioned often in Assyrian records as freebooters.
In religion, though their pantheon included Canaanite, Babylonian, and Assyrian gods, the Aramaeans had deities of their own. Their chief god was Hadad, or Ramman (Old Testament Rimmon), equated with the Hurrian storm god, Teshub

Abraham was a GENS of the Aramaeans.  If you keep track of "Gobekii Tepi" which would be just away from Mt. Ararat, you will see the oldest temple which was covered up as the people continued on their way into Babylon and God sent Abraham a GENTILE to be a blessing to ALL GENTILES because there were no "Jews.".

Jesus came to FULFILL:  Peter said that Jesus CERTIFIED the PROPHETS or made them more certain.  When a prophecy is fulfilled or filled full it is not to be observed.  The Law of Moses was CARNAL for CARNAL people whom God abandoned if you read Samuel's account.

Matt. 16:21  From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples,
        how that he must go unto Jerusalem,
        and suffer many things of the ELDERS and CHIEF PRIESTS and SCRIBES, and be KILLED, and be raised again the third day.
Luke 9:22 Saying, The Son of man must suffer many things,
        and be REJECTED of the ELDERS and CHIEF PRIESTS and SCRIBE, and be slain [MURDERED], and be raised the third day.

Luke 24:19 And he said unto them, What things? And they said unto him,
        Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people:
Luke 24:20 And how the chief priests and our rulers delivered him to be condemned to death, and have crucified him.
Luke 24:21 But we trusted that it had been he which should have REDEEMED Israel:
        and beside all this, to day is the third day since these things were done.

Holy Scriptures concerning the Kingdom of Christ are the PROPHETS and other pprophecies ABOUT MESSIAH.

Luke 24:44 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you,
        that all things must be fulfilled,
        which were written in the law of Moses,
        and in the prophets, and in the psalms,

REDEEMED is Latin luo similar to loutron.  Isaiah 1 prophesied baptism and Mark repeated the command for the REMISSION OF SINS without which no Jew can be REDEEMED.

Luke 24:46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
Luke 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins
        should be preached in his name among all NATIONS,
        beginning at Jerusalem.
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