A Christian Contradiction

[The Third One]

I have yet to meet any self-proclaimed Christian who has accepted one hundred percent with no "if,

[MeMyself]

Are you a Christian?

[Cally]

Romans
7:19 For the good which I desire, I don't do; but the evil which I don't desire, that I practice.
7:20 But if what I don't desire, that I do, it is no more I that do it, but sin which dwells in me.
7:21 I find then the law, that, to me, while I desire to do good, evil is present.
7:22 For I delight in God's law after the inward man,
7:23 but I see a different law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity under the law of sin which is in my members.
7:24 What a wretched man I am! Who will deliver me out of the body of this death?
7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ, our Lord! So then with the mind, I myself serve God's law, but with the flesh, the sin's law.

[Lively Stone]

I have yet to meet any self-proclaimed Christian who has accepted one hundred percent with no "if,

[Kindle]

Why struggle? Sin has already lost.    

[The Third One]

Am I a Christian? That depends on what you mean by "Christian." Do you mean am I a follower of the letters of Paul to the letter? Then, the answer is no. If you are asking me if I Am a follower of Jesus Christ, then the answer is yes. As I previously stated, I have yet to meet a Christian who has truly accepted that their sins have been taken away by what was done for them on the cross. They all still see their sins in their lives. So, it is difficult for me to include myself as a member of such a contradicting belief-system. I, myself, HAVE accepted 100% with no "if,

[Lively Stone]

Am I a Christian? That depends on what you mean by "Christian." Do you mean am I a follower of the letters of Paul to the letter? Then, the answer is no. If you are asking me if I Am a follower of Jesus Christ, then the answer is yes. As I previously stated, I have yet to meet a Christian who has truly accepted that their sins have been taken away by what was done for them on the cross. They all still see their sins in their lives. So, it is difficult for me to include myself as a member of such a contradicting belief-system. I, myself, HAVE accepted 100% with no "if,

[MeMyself]

Am I a Christian? That depends on what you mean by "Christian." Do you mean am I a follower of the letters of Paul to the letter? Then, the answer is no. If you are asking me if I Am a follower of Jesus Christ, then the answer is yes. As I previously stated, I have yet to meet a Christian who has truly accepted that their sins have been taken away by what was done for them on the cross. They all still see their sins in their lives. So, it is difficult for me to include myself as a member of such a contradicting belief-system. I, myself, HAVE accepted 100% with no "if,

[The Third One]

Paul himself IS the classic contradiction. Romans 7:19-25 is a clear indication of Paul's own non-acceptance.  Certainly, it is Jesus Who can deliver Paul from Paul's sin, Paul's evilness and Paul's death. But PAUL is the one who has to accept it 100% with no "if,

[The Third One]

Well then, Lively Stone, I am happy I came to this room.  You said a key sentence that would indicate that, indeed, I HAVE found one.  I hope to find more. 

"We must learn to see ourselves as God (the Father) sees us."   

I would caution you, however, as SEEING your sins as only being "as far (away) from (you) as the east is to the west.

[Beta]

It takes time for 'man' to shed sin....
that is why Paul says what he says in Rom.7.

If ALL our sins were forgiven and forgotten at a stroke why do we need to repent and stop sinning  It does not make sense.

True , Jesus dealt with all our sins on the cross ...but not for us to continue in sin.
When we first come to Christ all PAST sins are forgiven and forgotten Rom.3v25.
But from then on we also have a part in dealing with them through repentance.

[gbzone]

Romans
7:19 For the good which I desire, I don't do; but the evil which I don't desire, that I practice.
7:20 But if what I don't desire, that I do, it is no more I that do it, but sin which dwells in me.
7:21 I find then the law, that, to me, while I desire to do good, evil is present.
7:22 For I delight in God's law after the inward man,
7:23 but I see a different law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity under the law of sin which is in my members.
7:24 What a wretched man I am! Who will deliver me out of the body of this death?
7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ, our Lord! So then with the mind, I myself serve God's law, but with the flesh, the sin's law.

7:25  I thank God through jesus Christ .....is imissing  God gives us the victory.

"if we walk in the light as he is in the light  the n we have fellowship one with the other  and the blood of Jesus Christ cleanses us from all sin"

We cannmot say we have no sin  for the body is still subject to sin and death.
But even as the natural body is clansed with the blood as it continualy circulates it.

So also the spiritual body even hsi church is continualy cleansed from sin as we so walk .

The condition is a continual walk IN Christ in obedience to the Spirit of Christ.

Thus  a child of God cannot sin
but IF we sin we have an advocate with the Father.

The promise then of continual victory is there.but it is on the condition of  a walk and life of faith .

[The Third One]

Aaaahhh....I see...?

[p.rehbein]

 

[JohnDB]

I have peace with God but I am at war with sin in my life.

Unlike what things used to be which was to be at peace with sin and struggle with trying to have peace with God.

[candy]

Dear Third one,
Have you ever sinned after accepting the Lord Jesus into your heart?

[p.rehbein]

Am I a Christian? That depends on what you mean by "Christian." Do you mean am I a follower of the letters of Paul to the letter? Then, the answer is no. If you are asking me if I Am a follower of Jesus Christ, then the answer is yes. As I previously stated, I have yet to meet a Christian who has truly accepted that their sins have been taken away by what was done for them on the cross. They all still see their sins in their lives. So, it is difficult for me to include myself as a member of such a contradicting belief-system. I, myself, HAVE accepted 100% with no "if,

[Talking Donkey]

Am I a Christian? That depends on what you mean by "Christian." Do you mean am I a follower of the letters of Paul to the letter? Then, the answer is no. If you are asking me if I Am a follower of Jesus Christ, then the answer is yes.

It seems you follow Jesus but not the Holy Spirit, for the HS is the one that inspired the Apostle Paul to write most of the NT.  It is written:

1 Cor 14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.

Please forgive me for my next statements, ....

But you also come across as someone that thinks he knows more than the rest... implying that after years of looking for someone as knowledgeable as you, you have now finally found one in this thread.

You were successful at impressing me with extreme immaturity.  Prov 26:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.

Sorry ...

[Lively Stone]

Paul himself IS the classic contradiction. Romans 7:19-25 is a clear indication of Paul's own non-acceptance.  Certainly, it is Jesus Who can deliver Paul from Paul's sin, Paul's evilness and Paul's death. But PAUL is the one who has to accept it 100% with no "if,

[Lively Stone]

Am I a Christian? That depends on what you mean by "Christian." Do you mean am I a follower of the letters of Paul to the letter? Then, the answer is no. If you are asking me if I Am a follower of Jesus Christ, then the answer is yes.

It seems you follow Jesus but not the Holy Spirit, for the HS is the one that inspired the Apostle Paul to write most of the NT.  It is written:

1 Cor 14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.

Please forgive me for my next statements, ....

But you also come across as someone that thinks he knows more than the rest... implying that after years of looking for someone as knowledgeable as you, you have now finally found one in this thread.

You were successful at impressing me with extreme immaturity.  Prov 26:5 Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit.

Sorry ...

Amen. You took the words out of my mouth! Anyone who disses Paul cannot understand or receive from God, or the word or receive the teachings about Holy Spirit, and so remains as ignorant as a babe..

[MeMyself]

Has SOMBODY else out there actually accepted 100% with no "if,

[Lively Stone]

Has SOMBODY else out there actually accepted 100% with no "if,

[The Third One]

Hi Lively Stone,

If you're not impressed by "someone that thinks he knows more than the rest

[The Third One]

Has SOMBODY else out there actually accepted 100% with no "if,

[Lively Stone]

Hi Lively Stone,

If you're not impressed by "someone that thinks he knows more than the rest

[Lively Stone]

Has SOMBODY else out there actually accepted 100% with no "if,

[MeMyself]

Has SOMBODY else out there actually accepted 100% with no "if,

[The Third One]

Dear Third one,
Have you ever sinned after accepting the Lord Jesus into your heart?

I have "sinned

[MeMyself]

What is this concept of "sin

[GaryMac]

I have yet to meet any self-proclaimed Christian who has accepted one hundred percent with no "if,

[The Third One]

What is this concept of "sin

[p.rehbein]

Dear Third one,
Have you ever sinned after accepting the Lord Jesus into your heart?

I have "sinned

[The Third One]

Dear Third one,
Have you ever sinned after accepting the Lord Jesus into your heart?

I have "sinned

[MeMyself]

What's wrong with honkiedorri? (Actually, only the way it's spelled.) Hunky-dory is a very good place to be with God. Copasetic. Cool. On good speaking terms. I'm talking about perfect fellowship, with not anything standing in the way of that fellowship like "sin,

[The Third One]

What's wrong with honkiedorri? (Actually, only the way it's spelled.) Hunky-dory is a very good place to be with God. Copasetic. Cool. On good speaking terms. I'm talking about perfect fellowship, with not anything standing in the way of that fellowship like "sin,