You claim you're not knowledgable but loosely throw around the names Irenaeus and Tertullian.lol I appreciate the humiliy but when you mentioned stoicism you entered a world of knowledge that is pretty much forgotten by the norms that fill our forums here.
I only claimed I wasn't an expert, never said I was entirely bereft of knowledge on the subject
I've got a passing familiarity with stoicism because I've had a ton of Humanities classes and I've got a small collection of philosophy books, but I am in no way proficient and as I've said, I don't think I know enough to carry out a lengthy historical discussion.
I will say that I understand your frustration when it comes to not being called Christian for not adhering to the traditional Trinity. Our site is very diverse and you don't have to pass a history test to come in and fellowship with us. Many who do fellowship here are not well-versed in Christian history mainly because most of them are Protestants who come from church homes who focus more on the living of the faith rather than the study of it. You don't need to know the historic background of the Christian faith to lead good and wholesome Christian lives so most people do not.
This is good to hear. I've actually found this site to be quite tolerant of other viewpoints. I've been on others before who moderate individuals differently merely because of the faith to which they subscribe. I don't see too much of that here.
The frustration part is mostly born of the fact that, by at least most Protestant definitions, Mormons would be Christians. I've been told over and over that all you need to do is believe Christ to be the Savior, repent of your sins and accept him into your life. We do that, but then the goal posts are moved on us and we must now accept these doctrines, understand this passage in such a way and reject this teaching or that teaching. People can think we are Christians or not, but I'd appreciate it if they were at least consistent with their definition.
Though, if you ever want to get into Sacred Scripture in depth when it comes to the Trinity I'd love to dialogue with you. I bunked with a Mormon at Army basic training in Oklahoma a few years back. I understand you guys have a special preference for the KJV Bible. Maybe we can do a compare and contrast with the KJV and the Doctrine and Covenants and Pearl of Great Price sometime.
Sounds cool. I've debated dozens of times on the concept of the Trinity, and I don't know if I'm any closer to understanding it than I was in 2002 when I first found out that this was a widely held Christian belief. I am better, though at realizing the difference between modalism and trinitarianism. For the longest time, I thought the latter was the former.
But yeah, I don't mind exploring this concept with others in a more friendly environment. I'm not particularly great at debates, nor do I actively seek them out. So if this sounds like something you'd like to do, I'm all for it.