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« on: August 27, 2009, 08:58:03 PM »



question and  answer about the Nephilim
http://www.wels.net/cgi-bin/site.pl?process&procID=1518&cuQA_qaID=1&cuTopic_topicID=810&cuItem_itemID=28156
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« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2009, 03:24:07 PM »

IMHO, the Nephilim (translated Giants in some Bible versions) were offspring that resulted from fallen angels having sexual relations with human women.   
It is stated in Genesis 6:1 It happened, when men began to multiply on the surface of the ground, and daughters were born to them, 
6:2 that God's sons saw that men's daughters were beautiful, and they took for themselves wives of all that they chose.
6:3 Yahweh said, "My Spirit will not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; yet will his days be one hundred twenty years."
6:4 The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when God's sons came in to men's daughters. They bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.

Jude alludes to these fallen angels:  1:6 Angels who didn't keep their first domain, but deserted their own dwelling place, he has kept in everlasting bonds under darkness for the judgment of the great day.
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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2009, 07:02:57 PM »

IMHO, the Nephilim (translated Giants in some Bible versions) were offspring that resulted from fallen angels having sexual relations with human women.  
It is stated in Genesis 6:1 It happened, when men began to multiply on the surface of the ground, and daughters were born to them, 
6:2 that God's sons saw that men's daughters were beautiful, and they took for themselves wives of all that they chose.
6:3 Yahweh said, "My Spirit will not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; yet will his days be one hundred twenty years."
6:4 The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when God's sons came in to men's daughters. They bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.

Jude alludes to these fallen angels:  1:6 Angels who didn't keep their first domain, but deserted their own dwelling place, he has kept in everlasting bonds under darkness for the judgment of the great day.


Confessional  Lutheran theologians  believe differently.
i dont know of any confessional Lutherans theologians who believe these were angleic beings . that is not taught in our circles .
though what you say is  taught in some protestant circles --but not as far a s i know . by the  conservative reformed presbyterians     http://www.reformed.org/
but you are welcome  i think to  ask them ..

again here is what our lutheran theologians believe.

http://www.wels.net/cgi-bin/site.pl?process&procID=1518&cuQA_qaID=1&cuTopic_topicID=810&cuItem_itemID=28156

or here


http://kretzmannproject.org/home.htm
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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2009, 08:51:22 PM »

IMHO, the Nephilim (translated Giants in some Bible versions) were offspring that resulted from fallen angels having sexual relations with human women.   
It is stated in Genesis 6:1 It happened, when men began to multiply on the surface of the ground, and daughters were born to them, 
6:2 that God's sons saw that men's daughters were beautiful, and they took for themselves wives of all that they chose.
6:3 Yahweh said, "My Spirit will not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; yet will his days be one hundred twenty years."
6:4 The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when God's sons came in to men's daughters. They bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.

Jude alludes to these fallen angels:  1:6 Angels who didn't keep their first domain, but deserted their own dwelling place, he has kept in everlasting bonds under darkness for the judgment of the great day.


I have to agree with Harry.  I am including a paragraph from an article written by Jack Kelley of www.gracethrufaith.com about the Days Of Noah:

What Planet Are You From?
We’ve also made mention of the mysterious people in Genesis 6:4 called the Nephillim, offspring of crossbreeding between angelic beings and earthlings (See ). Would these beings with super natural strength (origin of the titans or demi-gods in mythology) be called aliens today? In many documented alien encounters there seems to be a great interest on their part in our reproductive system. Are aliens using humans to breed a super race again? In the King James rendering of Daniel 2:43 there’s a curious reference to someone “mixing themselves with the seed of men” in the last days. Is the antichrist part alien or in command of beings that are part alien and part human? As it was in the days of Noah.
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39neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
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« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2009, 09:57:21 PM »

IMHO, the Nephilim (translated Giants in some Bible versions) were offspring that resulted from fallen angels having sexual relations with human women.   
It is stated in Genesis 6:1 It happened, when men began to multiply on the surface of the ground, and daughters were born to them, 
6:2 that God's sons saw that men's daughters were beautiful, and they took for themselves wives of all that they chose.
6:3 Yahweh said, "My Spirit will not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; yet will his days be one hundred twenty years."
6:4 The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when God's sons came in to men's daughters. They bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.

Jude alludes to these fallen angels:  1:6 Angels who didn't keep their first domain, but deserted their own dwelling place, he has kept in everlasting bonds under darkness for the judgment of the great day.


I have to agree with Harry.  I am including a paragraph from an article written by Jack Kelley of www.gracethrufaith.com about the Days Of Noah:

What Planet Are You From?
We’ve also made mention of the mysterious people in Genesis 6:4 called the Nephillim, offspring of crossbreeding between angelic beings and earthlings (See ). Would these beings with super natural strength (origin of the titans or demi-gods in mythology) be called aliens today? In many documented alien encounters there seems to be a great interest on their part in our reproductive system. Are aliens using humans to breed a super race again? In the King James rendering of Daniel 2:43 there’s a curious reference to someone “mixing themselves with the seed of men” in the last days. Is the antichrist part alien or in command of beings that are part alien and part human? As it was in the days of Noah.




if your LC-MS  why dont you have any LC-MS SOURCE TO QUOTE ??
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« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2009, 10:46:41 PM »

IMHO, the Nephilim (translated Giants in some Bible versions) were offspring that resulted from fallen angels having sexual relations with human women.   
It is stated in Genesis 6:1 It happened, when men began to multiply on the surface of the ground, and daughters were born to them, 
6:2 that God's sons saw that men's daughters were beautiful, and they took for themselves wives of all that they chose.
6:3 Yahweh said, "My Spirit will not strive with man forever, because he also is flesh; yet will his days be one hundred twenty years."
6:4 The Nephilim were in the earth in those days, and also after that, when God's sons came in to men's daughters. They bore children to them. Those were the mighty men who were of old, men of renown.

Jude alludes to these fallen angels:  1:6 Angels who didn't keep their first domain, but deserted their own dwelling place, he has kept in everlasting bonds under darkness for the judgment of the great day.


I have to agree with Harry.  I am including a paragraph from an article written by Jack Kelley of www.gracethrufaith.com about the Days Of Noah:

What Planet Are You From?
We’ve also made mention of the mysterious people in Genesis 6:4 called the Nephillim, offspring of crossbreeding between angelic beings and earthlings (See ). Would these beings with super natural strength (origin of the titans or demi-gods in mythology) be called aliens today? In many documented alien encounters there seems to be a great interest on their part in our reproductive system. Are aliens using humans to breed a super race again? In the King James rendering of Daniel 2:43 there’s a curious reference to someone “mixing themselves with the seed of men” in the last days. Is the antichrist part alien or in command of beings that are part alien and part human? As it was in the days of Noah.




if your LC-MS  why dont you have any LC-MS SOURCE TO QUOTE ??

 Smile I'm not allowed to quote from other sources?   Confused
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