latest wels Q & answer reply to some one questioning Baptism of infants

[ex cathedra]

                        One only hopes he or she  conciders the bibles passages and the appropiate  question's asked back at him or her.Yet most often these type of person though they want to be heard, dont want to hear what others say, they dont want to  even hear what God has to say on the matter.


this link no longer available for now -------do to the upgrading of  wels.net
http://www.wels.net/cgi-bin/site.pl?process&procID=1518&cuQA_qaID=1&cuTopic_topicID=9&cuItem_itemID=28140

[Stucky]

                       One only hopes he or she  conciders the bibles passages and the appropiate  question's asked back at him or her.Yet most often these type of person though they want to be heard, dont want to hear what others say, they dont want to  even hear what God has to say on the matter.

http://www.wels.net/cgi-bin/site.pl?process&procID=1518&cuQA_qaID=1&cuTopic_topicID=9&cuItem_itemID=28140

I went to your link and there was nothing there.  I am a Lutheran (Missouri Synod) and was baptised as an infant, however, I was baptized again in 2005 as an adult because I  believe the baptism of infants does nothing for the infant and only makes the parents feel good.  I believe that infants below the age of accountability go to Heaven when they die.

[ex cathedra]

                       One only hopes he or she  conciders the bibles passages and the appropiate  question's asked back at him or her.Yet most often these type of person though they want to be heard, dont want to hear what others say, they dont want to  even hear what God has to say on the matter.

http://www.wels.net/cgi-bin/site.pl?process&procID=1518&cuQA_qaID=1&cuTopic_topicID=9&cuItem_itemID=28140

I went to your link and there was nothing there.  I am a Lutheran (Missouri Synod) and was baptised as an infant, however, I was baptized again in 2005 as an adult because I don't believe the baptism of infants does nothing for the infant and only makes the parents feel good.  I believe that infants below the age of accountability go to Heaven when they die.

They are in beta mode as they are updating wels.net. So the old links are not working  now.


are you saying your LC-MS Pastor went along with all this ?

no one called the circuit pastor on him?

i dont want your name .

BUT I THINK SOME LC-MS

Members that visit here .

should

What his name  and what church  he is pastoring. Because he needs to be removed.


LC-MS BELIEFS ON THE MEANS OF GRACE

http://www.lcms.org/pages/internal.asp?NavID=572

[Stucky]

                       One only hopes he or she  conciders the bibles passages and the appropiate  question's asked back at him or her.Yet most often these type of person though they want to be heard, dont want to hear what others say, they dont want to  even hear what God has to say on the matter.

http://www.wels.net/cgi-bin/site.pl?process&procID=1518&cuQA_qaID=1&cuTopic_topicID=9&cuItem_itemID=28140

I went to your link and there was nothing there.  I am a Lutheran (Missouri Synod) and was baptised as an infant, however, I was baptized again in 2005 as an adult because I don't believe the baptism of infants does nothing for the infant and only makes the parents feel good.  I believe that infants below the age of accountability go to Heaven when they die.

They are in beta mode as they are updating wels.net. So the old links are not working  now.


are you saying your LC-MS Pastor went along with all this ?

no one called the circuit pastor on him?

i dont want your name .

BUT I THINK SOME LC-MS

Members that visit here .

should

What his name  and what church  he is pastoring. Because he needs to be removed.


LC-MS BELIEFS ON THE MEANS OF GRACE

http://www.lcms.org/pages/internal.asp?NavID=572

No dear, I was baptized in a Southern Baptist church in 2005 because I became a member when there were no Lutheran churches in the area.  Now are you going to say I'm going to hell because I was baptised by two different Christian denominations? 

Now you are showing your true colors, you are more interested in the doctrine of a particular denomination than the Gospel of Jesus Christ.  You are being the same as the pharisees in Jesus time that felt their doctrines were more important than the Word of God.  You should be ashamed of yourself.  All you are doing here is placing stumbling blocks in the path of believers.  Do you also believe there will be no Catholics, Mormons, JW's, AoG, SDA or other Christian denominations believers in Heaven because the hierarchy of those organizations have errors in their doctrines?

Don't you believe in Grace Through Faith alone?  Do you want to slap Jesus in the face for dying on the cross for the forgiveness of our sins?

You are free to believe whatever you wish but please don't take doctrines in your church and tell others they are not saved because they believe another doctrine.  God did not place you as judge over the people of the earth.

[ex cathedra]

                       One only hopes he or she  conciders the bibles passages and the appropiate  question's asked back at him or her.Yet most often these type of person though they want to be heard, dont want to hear what others say, they dont want to  even hear what God has to say on the matter.

http://www.wels.net/cgi-bin/site.pl?process&procID=1518&cuQA_qaID=1&cuTopic_topicID=9&cuItem_itemID=28140

I went to your link and there was nothing there.  I am a Lutheran (Missouri Synod) and was baptised as an infant, however, I was baptized again in 2005 as an adult because I don't believe the baptism of infants does nothing for the infant and only makes the parents feel good.  I believe that infants below the age of accountability go to Heaven when they die.

They are in beta mode as they are updating wels.net. So the old links are not working  now.


are you saying your LC-MS Pastor went along with all this ?

no one called the circuit pastor on him?

i dont want your name .

BUT I THINK SOME LC-MS

Members that visit here .

should

What his name  and what church  he is pastoring. Because he needs to be removed.


LC-MS BELIEFS ON THE MEANS OF GRACE

http://www.lcms.org/pages/internal.asp?NavID=572

No dear, I was baptized in a Southern Baptist church in 2005 because I became a member when there were no Lutheran churches in the area.  Now are you going to say I'm going to hell because I was baptised by two different Christian denominations?  

Now you are showing your true colors, you are more interested in the doctrine of a particular denomination than the Gospel of Jesus Christ.  You are being the same as the pharisees in Jesus time that felt their doctrines were more important than the Word of God.  You should be ashamed of yourself.  All you are doing here is placing stumbling blocks in the path of believers.  Do you also believe there will be no Catholics, Mormons, JW's, AoG, SDA or other Christian denominations believers in Heaven because the hierarchy of those organizations have errors in their doctrines?

Don't you believe in Grace Through Faith alone?  Do you want to slap Jesus in the face for dying on the cross for the forgiveness of our sins?

You are free to believe whatever you wish but please don't take doctrines in your church and tell others they are not saved because they believe another doctrine.  God did not place you as judge over the people of the earth.

In the baptist church all you did was get wet and have a good cry.There was no christian baptism at all since you were already baptized as a infant.
God does not walk away from what he promises people are the ones who walk away from what God promises..
Just because you turn your back on God as you grew older and out of infancy  does not mean God who is always faith ful  turned his back on you.

You should  to talk to your LC-MS  pastor  

Many baptist reject Gods grace alone in conversion, their  worship services are  delibertly set up to manipulate your emotions .
ask your lcms pastor how this goes along  with their make  a decision theology.

by the way no one said your going to hell .

why not copy what you wrote and i wrote and discuss it with your LC-MS Pastor.

And yes JESUS HIS DOCTRINES DO MATTER.
thats why the book of concord   the Lutheran confession's Christ his doctrines are their master.
  


http://bookofconcord.org/

[Stucky]

                        One only hopes he or she  conciders the bibles passages and the appropiate  question's asked back at him or her.Yet most often these type of person though they want to be heard, dont want to hear what others say, they dont want to  even hear what God has to say on the matter.

http://www.wels.net/cgi-bin/site.pl?process&procID=1518&cuQA_qaID=1&cuTopic_topicID=9&cuItem_itemID=28140

I went to your link and there was nothing there.  I am a Lutheran (Missouri Synod) and was baptised as an infant, however, I was baptized again in 2005 as an adult because I don't believe the baptism of infants does nothing for the infant and only makes the parents feel good.  I believe that infants below the age of accountability go to Heaven when they die.

They are in beta mode as they are updating wels.net. So the old links are not working  now.


are you saying your LC-MS Pastor went along with all this ?

no one called the circuit pastor on him?

i dont want your name .

BUT I THINK SOME LC-MS

Members that visit here .

should

What his name  and what church  he is pastoring. Because he needs to be removed.


LC-MS BELIEFS ON THE MEANS OF GRACE

http://www.lcms.org/pages/internal.asp?NavID=572

No dear, I was baptized in a Southern Baptist church in 2005 because I became a member when there were no Lutheran churches in the area.  Now are you going to say I'm going to hell because I was baptised by two different Christian denominations? 

Now you are showing your true colors, you are more interested in the doctrine of a particular denomination than the Gospel of Jesus Christ.  You are being the same as the pharisees in Jesus time that felt their doctrines were more important than the Word of God.  You should be ashamed of yourself.  All you are doing here is placing stumbling blocks in the path of believers.  Do you also believe there will be no Catholics, Mormons, JW's, AoG, SDA or other Christian denominations believers in Heaven because the hierarchy of those organizations have errors in their doctrines?

Don't you believe in Grace Through Faith alone?  Do you want to slap Jesus in the face for dying on the cross for the forgiveness of our sins?

You are free to believe whatever you wish but please don't take doctrines in your church and tell others they are not saved because they believe another doctrine.  God did not place you as judge over the people of the earth.

In the baptist church all you did was get wet and have a good cry.There was no christian baptism at all since you were already baptized as a infant.
God does not walk away from what he promises people are the ones who walk away from what God promises..

Copy what you wrote and  i wrote you here . Show it to your lcms pastor . IF YOU HAVE THE GUTS TO.
IF HE REALLY IS A LUTHERAN PASTOR HE WILL HAVE TO BACK ME UP though he may not like the harsh way i put it.

Actually, ex cathedra,    I didn't cry at my second baptism.  I probably did at my first though.  Show me the SCRIPTURE that says my second baptism was null and void.  Your statement about God walking away, while true, is not relative to the topic under discussion.

I don't have an LC MS  pastor since I don't go to any Lutheran church now.   You are  mistaken about my guts and you are in violation of forum rules for making a personal attack against me.

If you know that what you are saying is harsh, why do you  bother to say it?   Where is your Christian love?  If a Lutheran pastor agreed with you it wouldn't make one iota of difference because I am bound by the gospel, not the doctrines of a particular denomination.

From the wild threads I've seen you post on here I doubt if a preacher of any denomination would back you up on anything.  Use Scripture to strengthen your arguments, not Lutheran doctrine.  Scripture is of God, Lutheran doctrine is of man.

[ex cathedra]

                       One only hopes he or she  conciders the bibles passages and the appropiate  question's asked back at him or her.Yet most often these type of person though they want to be heard, dont want to hear what others say, they dont want to  even hear what God has to say on the matter.

http://www.wels.net/cgi-bin/site.pl?process&procID=1518&cuQA_qaID=1&cuTopic_topicID=9&cuItem_itemID=28140

I went to your link and there was nothing there.  I am a Lutheran (Missouri Synod) and was baptised as an infant, however, I was baptized again in 2005 as an adult because I don't believe the baptism of infants does nothing for the infant and only makes the parents feel good.  I believe that infants below the age of accountability go to Heaven when they die.

They are in beta mode as they are updating wels.net. So the old links are not working  now.


are you saying your LC-MS Pastor went along with all this ?

no one called the circuit pastor on him?

i dont want your name .

BUT I THINK SOME LC-MS

Members that visit here .

should

What his name  and what church  he is pastoring. Because he needs to be removed.


LC-MS BELIEFS ON THE MEANS OF GRACE

http://www.lcms.org/pages/internal.asp?NavID=572

No dear, I was baptized in a Southern Baptist church in 2005 because I became a member when there were no Lutheran churches in the area.  Now are you going to say I'm going to hell because I was baptised by two different Christian denominations?  

Now you are showing your true colors, you are more interested in the doctrine of a particular denomination than the Gospel of Jesus Christ.  You are being the same as the pharisees in Jesus time that felt their doctrines were more important than the Word of God.  You should be ashamed of yourself.  All you are doing here is placing stumbling blocks in the path of believers.  Do you also believe there will be no Catholics, Mormons, JW's, AoG, SDA or other Christian denominations believers in Heaven because the hierarchy of those organizations have errors in their doctrines?

Don't you believe in Grace Through Faith alone?  Do you want to slap Jesus in the face for dying on the cross for the forgiveness of our sins?

You are free to believe whatever you wish but please don't take doctrines in your church and tell others they are not saved because they believe another doctrine.  God did not place you as judge over the people of the earth.

In the baptist church all you did was get wet and have a good cry.There was no christian baptism at all since you were already baptized as a infant.
God does not walk away from what he promises people are the ones who walk away from what God promises..

Copy what you wrote and  i wrote you here . Show it to your lcms pastor . IF YOU HAVE THE GUTS TO.
IF HE REALLY IS A LUTHERAN PASTOR HE WILL HAVE TO BACK ME UP though he may not like the harsh way i put it.

Actually, ex cathedra,    I didn't cry at my second baptism.  I probably did at my first though.  Show me the SCRIPTURE that says my second baptism was null and void.  Your statement about God walking away, while true, is not relative to the topic under discussion.

I don't have an LC MS  pastor since I don't go to any Lutheran church now.   You are  mistaken about my guts and you are in violation of forum rules for making a personal attack against me.

If you know that what you are saying is harsh, why do you  bother to say it?   Where is your Christian love?  If a Lutheran pastor agreed with you it wouldn't make one iota of difference because I am bound by the gospel, not the doctrines of a particular denomination.

From the wild threads I've seen you post on here I doubt if a preacher of any denomination would back you up on anything.  Use Scripture to strengthen your arguments, not Lutheran doctrine.  Scripture is of God, Lutheran doctrine is of man.

Stop representing your self as a lutheran when your beleifs are southern baptist   be a little more honest to your self and other's.

[Stucky]

                       One only hopes he or she  conciders the bibles passages and the appropiate  question's asked back at him or her.Yet most often these type of person though they want to be heard, dont want to hear what others say, they dont want to  even hear what God has to say on the matter.

http://www.wels.net/cgi-bin/site.pl?process&procID=1518&cuQA_qaID=1&cuTopic_topicID=9&cuItem_itemID=28140

I went to your link and there was nothing there.  I am a Lutheran (Missouri Synod) and was baptised as an infant, however, I was baptized again in 2005 as an adult because I don't believe the baptism of infants does nothing for the infant and only makes the parents feel good.  I believe that infants below the age of accountability go to Heaven when they die.

They are in beta mode as they are updating wels.net. So the old links are not working  now.


are you saying your LC-MS Pastor went along with all this ?

no one called the circuit pastor on him?

i dont want your name .

BUT I THINK SOME LC-MS

Members that visit here .

should

What his name  and what church  he is pastoring. Because he needs to be removed.


LC-MS BELIEFS ON THE MEANS OF GRACE

http://www.lcms.org/pages/internal.asp?NavID=572

No dear, I was baptized in a Southern Baptist church in 2005 because I became a member when there were no Lutheran churches in the area.  Now are you going to say I'm going to hell because I was baptised by two different Christian denominations?  

Now you are showing your true colors, you are more interested in the doctrine of a particular denomination than the Gospel of Jesus Christ.  You are being the same as the pharisees in Jesus time that felt their doctrines were more important than the Word of God.  You should be ashamed of yourself.  All you are doing here is placing stumbling blocks in the path of believers.  Do you also believe there will be no Catholics, Mormons, JW's, AoG, SDA or other Christian denominations believers in Heaven because the hierarchy of those organizations have errors in their doctrines?

Don't you believe in Grace Through Faith alone?  Do you want to slap Jesus in the face for dying on the cross for the forgiveness of our sins?

You are free to believe whatever you wish but please don't take doctrines in your church and tell others they are not saved because they believe another doctrine.  God did not place you as judge over the people of the earth.

In the baptist church all you did was get wet and have a good cry.There was no christian baptism at all since you were already baptized as a infant.
God does not walk away from what he promises people are the ones who walk away from what God promises..

Copy what you wrote and  i wrote you here . Show it to your lcms pastor . IF YOU HAVE THE GUTS TO.
IF HE REALLY IS A LUTHERAN PASTOR HE WILL HAVE TO BACK ME UP though he may not like the harsh way i put it.

Actually, ex cathedra,    I didn't cry at my second baptism.  I probably did at my first though.  Show me the SCRIPTURE that says my second baptism was null and void.  Your statement about God walking away, while true, is not relative to the topic under discussion.

I don't have an LC MS  pastor since I don't go to any Lutheran church now.   You are  mistaken about my guts and you are in violation of forum rules for making a personal attack against me.

If you know that what you are saying is harsh, why do you  bother to say it?   Where is your Christian love?  If a Lutheran pastor agreed with you it wouldn't make one iota of difference because I am bound by the gospel, not the doctrines of a particular denomination.

From the wild threads I've seen you post on here I doubt if a preacher of any denomination would back you up on anything.  Use Scripture to strengthen your arguments, not Lutheran doctrine.  Scripture is of God, Lutheran doctrine is of man.

Stop representing your self as a lutheran when your beleifs are southern baptist   be a little more honest to your self and other's.

Wow, you have a lot of hate inside you.  I am allowed to represent myself as anything I please dear.  I am still a Lutheran and still a Baptist.  I was baptised and confirmed Lutheran and baptised Baptist.  The bottom line is that I am a Christian.  My beliefs are based o n the Bible not on any particular denomination.  How dare you question my honesty.  One more personal attack and I will report you to the moderators.

[ex cathedra]

                       One only hopes he or she  conciders the bibles passages and the appropiate  question's asked back at him or her.Yet most often these type of person though they want to be heard, dont want to hear what others say, they dont want to  even hear what God has to say on the matter.

http://www.wels.net/cgi-bin/site.pl?process&procID=1518&cuQA_qaID=1&cuTopic_topicID=9&cuItem_itemID=28140

I went to your link and there was nothing there.  I am a Lutheran (Missouri Synod) and was baptised as an infant, however, I was baptized again in 2005 as an adult because I don't believe the baptism of infants does nothing for the infant and only makes the parents feel good.  I believe that infants below the age of accountability go to Heaven when they die.

They are in beta mode as they are updating wels.net. So the old links are not working  now.


are you saying your LC-MS Pastor went along with all this ?

no one called the circuit pastor on him?

i dont want your name .

BUT I THINK SOME LC-MS

Members that visit here .

should

What his name  and what church  he is pastoring. Because he needs to be removed.


LC-MS BELIEFS ON THE MEANS OF GRACE

http://www.lcms.org/pages/internal.asp?NavID=572

No dear, I was baptized in a Southern Baptist church in 2005 because I became a member when there were no Lutheran churches in the area.  Now are you going to say I'm going to hell because I was baptised by two different Christian denominations?  

Now you are showing your true colors, you are more interested in the doctrine of a particular denomination than the Gospel of Jesus Christ.  You are being the same as the pharisees in Jesus time that felt their doctrines were more important than the Word of God.  You should be ashamed of yourself.  All you are doing here is placing stumbling blocks in the path of believers.  Do you also believe there will be no Catholics, Mormons, JW's, AoG, SDA or other Christian denominations believers in Heaven because the hierarchy of those organizations have errors in their doctrines?

Don't you believe in Grace Through Faith alone?  Do you want to slap Jesus in the face for dying on the cross for the forgiveness of our sins?

You are free to believe whatever you wish but please don't take doctrines in your church and tell others they are not saved because they believe another doctrine.  God did not place you as judge over the people of the earth.

In the baptist church all you did was get wet and have a good cry.There was no christian baptism at all since you were already baptized as a infant.
God does not walk away from what he promises people are the ones who walk away from what God promises..

Copy what you wrote and  i wrote you here . Show it to your lcms pastor . IF YOU HAVE THE GUTS TO.
IF HE REALLY IS A LUTHERAN PASTOR HE WILL HAVE TO BACK ME UP though he may not like the harsh way i put it.

Actually, ex cathedra,    I didn't cry at my second baptism.  I probably did at my first though.  Show me the SCRIPTURE that says my second baptism was null and void.  Your statement about God walking away, while true, is not relative to the topic under discussion.

I don't have an LC MS  pastor since I don't go to any Lutheran church now.   You are  mistaken about my guts and you are in violation of forum rules for making a personal attack against me.

If you know that what you are saying is harsh, why do you  bother to say it?   Where is your Christian love?  If a Lutheran pastor agreed with you it wouldn't make one iota of difference because I am bound by the gospel, not the doctrines of a particular denomination.

From the wild threads I've seen you post on here I doubt if a preacher of any denomination would back you up on anything.  Use Scripture to strengthen your arguments, not Lutheran doctrine.  Scripture is of God, Lutheran doctrine is of man.

Stop representing your self as a lutheran when your beleifs are southern baptist   be a little more honest to your self and other's.

Wow, you have a lot of hate inside you.  I am allowed to represent myself as anything I please dear.  I am still a Lutheran and still a Baptist.  I was baptised and confirmed Lutheran and baptised Baptist.  The bottom line is that I am a Christian.  My beliefs are based o n the Bible not on any particular denomination.  How dare you question my honesty.  One more personal attack and I will report you to the moderators.

I think your going to have to report me.   Because i ALSO dont believe you can see inside me .


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