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Re: Luther standing up for the bibles teaching on total depravity .
« Reply #45 on: January 16, 2010, 08:31:51 AM »
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we can even choose to go to a bible teaching christian church

 yet its by Gods grace Alone is why one would  believe its greatest message  about Gods  forgivness of sin only through faith in Jesus .
Agreed.  That's why, when I was discussing how I would talk to someone who is curious about Christ, I pointed out that I can only do so much.  The actual conversion and coming to faith of said person will be the work of the Holy Spirit.
Even so, Scripture points out that Paul used reason to try to get the Athenians started....

Acts 17:22Paul then stood up in the meeting of the Areopagus and said: "Men of Athens! I see that in every way you are very religious. 23For as I walked around and looked carefully at your objects of worship, I even found an altar with this inscription: TO AN UNKNOWN GOD. Now what you worship as something unknown I am going to proclaim to you.

 24"The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by hands. 25And he is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything, because he himself gives all men life and breath and everything else. 26From one man he made every nation of men, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he determined the times set for them and the exact places where they should live. 27God did this so that men would seek him and perhaps reach out for him and find him, though he is not far from each one of us. 28'For in him we live and move and have our being.' As some of your own poets have said, 'We are his offspring.'

 29"Therefore since we are God's offspring, we should not think that the divine being is like gold or silver or stoneā€”an image made by man's design and skill. 30In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent. 31For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to all men by raising him from the dead."


We have to start somewhere, us feeble Christians, and then trust the Spirit will do His work.
Suppose there were a physician who had such skill that people would not die, or even though they died would afterward live forever. Just think how the world would snow and rain money upon him! Because of the pressing crowd of rich men no one else could get near him. Now, here in Baptism there is brought free to every man's door just such a priceless medicine which swallows up death and saves the lives of all men.

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Re: Luther standing up for the bibles teaching on total depravity .
« Reply #45 on: January 16, 2010, 08:31:51 AM »