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Pope Trying to Appease the Orthodox and the Lutherans
« on: Mon Jun 13, 2011 - 21:19:36 »

Individually, the Orthodox Must Reject Unity with the Roman Catholics.  And so should the Lutherans as the Bible warns about such a future confederation (Revelation 18:4).


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Re: Pope Trying to Appease the Orthodox and the Lutherans
« Reply #1 on: Mon Jun 13, 2011 - 21:36:08 »

Individually, the Orthodox Must Reject Unity with the Roman Catholics.  And so should the Lutherans as the Bible warns about such a future confederation (Revelation 18:4).


read whole thing
http://www.cogwriter.com/news/prophecy/pope-trying-to-appease-the-orthodox-and-the-lutherans/


Protestants like the COG Christian who wrote this article should mind their own business, especially when they don't know what they're talking about and clearly twisting the words of people more involved in the struggles of Christianity than themselves.

Patriarch Bartholomeuw I did not say he wanted to unite with Rome. He said that he wanted to all Christians to be united. Period. Stop expounding on his words like snakes! The Orthodox Catholics, Roman Catholics and Coptic Catholics have been speaking of unity for all christians for centuries. This doesn't always mean assimilating under the title of "Roman Catholic" for the fulfillment of the cry of unity.

From the Orthodox perspective in order for there to ever be a reunion of the two lungs the Holy Father would have to renounce the filioque, mandated celibacy, papal infallibility and papal universal jurisdiction. This would not take away from the Primacy of Peter's Chair which resides in Rome because the Orthodox believed that Peter was prime while never having the distinction of universal overseer or weilding infallibility in the first place.

From our perspective unity under Christ means to accept the ones Christ sent out. We believe Peter was at the head of that ministry and unity is under that stewardship. If there is to be unity again it will be under that ministry of Apostolic Successors with Peter's Chair being the prime overseer.

I don't know the Assyrian position so I am not at liberty to discuss such.

Your words are devious and twisting. Patriarch Bartholomeuw I is a proud Orthodox. I'm sure he would find your lie in regards to him wanting to assimilate himself with Rome to be repulsive.

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Re: Pope Trying to Appease the Orthodox and the Lutherans
« Reply #2 on: Mon Jun 13, 2011 - 23:41:48 »

Individually, the Orthodox Must Reject Unity with the Roman Catholics.  And so should the Lutherans as the Bible warns about such a future confederation (Revelation 18:4).


read whole thing
http://www.cogwriter.com/news/prophecy/pope-trying-to-appease-the-orthodox-and-the-lutherans/


Protestants like the COG Christian who wrote this article should mind their own business, especially when they don't know what they're talking about and clearly twisting the words of people more involved in the struggles of Christianity than themselves.

Patriarch Bartholomeuw I did not say he wanted to unite with Rome. He said that he wanted to all Christians to be united. Period. Stop expounding on his words like snakes! The Orthodox Catholics, Roman Catholics and Coptic Catholics have been speaking of unity for all christians for centuries. This doesn't always mean assimilating under the title of "Roman Catholic" for the fulfillment of the cry of unity.

From the Orthodox perspective in order for there to ever be a reunion of the two lungs the Holy Father would have to renounce the filioque, mandated celibacy, papal infallibility and papal universal jurisdiction. This would not take away from the Primacy of Peter's Chair which resides in Rome because the Orthodox believed that Peter was prime while never having the distinction of universal overseer or weilding infallibility in the first place.

From our perspective unity under Christ means to accept the ones Christ sent out. We believe Peter was at the head of that ministry and unity is under that stewardship. If there is to be unity again it will be under that ministry of Apostolic Successors with Peter's Chair being the prime overseer.

I don't know the Assyrian position so I am not at liberty to discuss such.

Your words are devious and twisting. Patriarch Bartholomeuw I is a proud Orthodox. I'm sure he would find your lie in regards to him wanting to assimilate himself with Rome to be repulsive.




they are not my words ---they are from a cog fellow ..

you really are truthfully challanged ..

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Re: Pope Trying to Appease the Orthodox and the Lutherans
« Reply #3 on: Tue Jun 14, 2011 - 00:41:11 »

Individually, the Orthodox Must Reject Unity with the Roman Catholics.  And so should the Lutherans as the Bible warns about such a future confederation (Revelation 18:4).


read whole thing
http://www.cogwriter.com/news/prophecy/pope-trying-to-appease-the-orthodox-and-the-lutherans/


Protestants like the COG Christian who wrote this article should mind their own business, especially when they don't know what they're talking about and clearly twisting the words of people more involved in the struggles of Christianity than themselves.

Patriarch Bartholomeuw I did not say he wanted to unite with Rome. He said that he wanted to all Christians to be united. Period. Stop expounding on his words like snakes! The Orthodox Catholics, Roman Catholics and Coptic Catholics have been speaking of unity for all christians for centuries. This doesn't always mean assimilating under the title of "Roman Catholic" for the fulfillment of the cry of unity.

From the Orthodox perspective in order for there to ever be a reunion of the two lungs the Holy Father would have to renounce the filioque, mandated celibacy, papal infallibility and papal universal jurisdiction. This would not take away from the Primacy of Peter's Chair which resides in Rome because the Orthodox believed that Peter was prime while never having the distinction of universal overseer or weilding infallibility in the first place.

From our perspective unity under Christ means to accept the ones Christ sent out. We believe Peter was at the head of that ministry and unity is under that stewardship. If there is to be unity again it will be under that ministry of Apostolic Successors with Peter's Chair being the prime overseer.

I don't know the Assyrian position so I am not at liberty to discuss such.

Your words are devious and twisting. Patriarch Bartholomeuw I is a proud Orthodox. I'm sure he would find your lie in regards to him wanting to assimilate himself with Rome to be repulsive.




they are not my words ---they are from a cog fellow ..

you really are truthfully challanged ..


Take a break and seek forgiveness from God, ex cathedra. You have misquoted and consistently applied false meanings contrary to people's actual words to make fit your own pathetic bias. Any Orthodox Catholic on this site would be down right insulted by your claim of Patriarch Batholomeuw I.

Unity for all Christian is completely different from uniting with Rome in Orthodoxy.

Shame on you for false propagations. I expected more even from a protestant.

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Re: Pope Trying to Appease the Orthodox and the Lutherans
« Reply #4 on: Tue Jun 14, 2011 - 00:55:04 »

Individually, the Orthodox Must Reject Unity with the Roman Catholics.  And so should the Lutherans as the Bible warns about such a future confederation (Revelation 18:4).


read whole thing
http://www.cogwriter.com/news/prophecy/pope-trying-to-appease-the-orthodox-and-the-lutherans/


Protestants like the COG Christian who wrote this article should mind their own business, especially when they don't know what they're talking about and clearly twisting the words of people more involved in the struggles of Christianity than themselves.

Patriarch Bartholomeuw I did not say he wanted to unite with Rome. He said that he wanted to all Christians to be united. Period. Stop expounding on his words like snakes! The Orthodox Catholics, Roman Catholics and Coptic Catholics have been speaking of unity for all christians for centuries. This doesn't always mean assimilating under the title of "Roman Catholic" for the fulfillment of the cry of unity.

From the Orthodox perspective in order for there to ever be a reunion of the two lungs the Holy Father would have to renounce the filioque, mandated celibacy, papal infallibility and papal universal jurisdiction. This would not take away from the Primacy of Peter's Chair which resides in Rome because the Orthodox believed that Peter was prime while never having the distinction of universal overseer or weilding infallibility in the first place.

From our perspective unity under Christ means to accept the ones Christ sent out. We believe Peter was at the head of that ministry and unity is under that stewardship. If there is to be unity again it will be under that ministry of Apostolic Successors with Peter's Chair being the prime overseer.

I don't know the Assyrian position so I am not at liberty to discuss such.

Your words are devious and twisting. Patriarch Bartholomeuw I is a proud Orthodox. I'm sure he would find your lie in regards to him wanting to assimilate himself with Rome to be repulsive.




they are not my words ---they are from a cog fellow ..

you really are truthfully challanged ..


Take a break and seek forgiveness from God, ex cathedra. You have misquoted and consistently applied false meanings contrary to people's actual words to make fit your own pathetic bias. Any Orthodox Catholic on this site would be down right insulted by your claim of Patriarch Batholomeuw I.

Unity for all Christian is completely different from uniting with Rome in Orthodoxy.

Shame on you for false propagations. I expected more even from a protestant.




  im not the COG FELLOW

YET


I happen to know their are orthodox catholic priests that want nothing to do with The  Roman papacy .

and confessional Lutheran don't either.



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Re: Pope Trying to Appease the Orthodox and the Lutherans
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Re: Pope Trying to Appease the Orthodox and the Lutherans
« Reply #5 on: Tue Jun 14, 2011 - 01:07:20 »

Individually, the Orthodox Must Reject Unity with the Roman Catholics.  And so should the Lutherans as the Bible warns about such a future confederation (Revelation 18:4).


read whole thing
http://www.cogwriter.com/news/prophecy/pope-trying-to-appease-the-orthodox-and-the-lutherans/


Protestants like the COG Christian who wrote this article should mind their own business, especially when they don't know what they're talking about and clearly twisting the words of people more involved in the struggles of Christianity than themselves.

Patriarch Bartholomeuw I did not say he wanted to unite with Rome. He said that he wanted to all Christians to be united. Period. Stop expounding on his words like snakes! The Orthodox Catholics, Roman Catholics and Coptic Catholics have been speaking of unity for all christians for centuries. This doesn't always mean assimilating under the title of "Roman Catholic" for the fulfillment of the cry of unity.

From the Orthodox perspective in order for there to ever be a reunion of the two lungs the Holy Father would have to renounce the filioque, mandated celibacy, papal infallibility and papal universal jurisdiction. This would not take away from the Primacy of Peter's Chair which resides in Rome because the Orthodox believed that Peter was prime while never having the distinction of universal overseer or weilding infallibility in the first place.

From our perspective unity under Christ means to accept the ones Christ sent out. We believe Peter was at the head of that ministry and unity is under that stewardship. If there is to be unity again it will be under that ministry of Apostolic Successors with Peter's Chair being the prime overseer.

I don't know the Assyrian position so I am not at liberty to discuss such.

Your words are devious and twisting. Patriarch Bartholomeuw I is a proud Orthodox. I'm sure he would find your lie in regards to him wanting to assimilate himself with Rome to be repulsive.




they are not my words ---they are from a cog fellow ..

you really are truthfully challanged ..


Take a break and seek forgiveness from God, ex cathedra. You have misquoted and consistently applied false meanings contrary to people's actual words to make fit your own pathetic bias. Any Orthodox Catholic on this site would be down right insulted by your claim of Patriarch Batholomeuw I.

Unity for all Christian is completely different from uniting with Rome in Orthodoxy.

Shame on you for false propagations. I expected more even from a protestant.




  im not the COG FELLOW

YET


I happen to know their are orthodox catholic priests that want nothing to do with The  Roman papacy .

and confessional Lutheran don't either.





We couldn't careless.

Everyone likes to talk smack about the Papacy as if the Papacy cares what the world thinks of it. All this talk about the Antichrist because the relationship between Rome and the Church is ridiculous.

Before the 11th century most of the political involvement on the Church's part was more up the alley of the Bishop of Constantinople because thats where the captial of the empire was. For those of you who know jack squat about history, Rome wasn't even the capital of the empire after the 4th century and thats when most of you confused history flunkees claim that the Bishop of Rome and the Emperor got tight. Really? Please.

The Lutherans have no room to talk about political involvement. Let's not forget the role the German congregation played in aiding and endorsing Adolf Hitler. However Lutherans and SDA's are quick to upload a picture of a Roman Catholic minister meeting with Nazi's. Those same snakes always 'conveniently' like to leave out the part that those meeting were held to try and persuade an end to the world war and the holocaust. Its funny because the Lutheran Church in Germany backed Hitler more than anybody.

I have no problem with Orthodox Catholics because they are like the only papacy haters who actually keep it 100. However the Orthodox can't talk about Antichrist due to political involvement because the Russian Orthodox Church has been involved in political endeavors more than Bishop of Constantinople who also went into schism on the Orthodox side.

I could tear you Antichrist heresy to shreds a thousand times over but it wouldn't make a difference. Beliefs like those are not rooted in objective reality but in the projection of what the individuals want to believe onto reality.

Its sad.
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Re: Pope Trying to Appease the Orthodox and the Lutherans
« Reply #6 on: Tue Jun 14, 2011 - 01:44:29 »
Antuchrist  rofl  have you been taking spellin lessons from me ..On THE SLY




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Re: Pope Trying to Appease the Orthodox and the Lutherans
« Reply #7 on: Tue Jun 14, 2011 - 02:02:47 »
Antuchrist  rofl  have you been taking spellin lessons from me ..On THE SLY






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Re: Pope Trying to Appease the Orthodox and the Lutherans
« Reply #8 on: Tue Jun 14, 2011 - 06:57:21 »

Individually, the Orthodox Must Reject Unity with the Roman Catholics.  And so should the Lutherans as the Bible warns about such a future confederation (Revelation 18:4).


You do realize that, a thousand years ago, the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox were already one Church?  What difference would it make if the schism ended?  It's not going to fulfill any prophecy.  The Church was one for a thousand years.

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Re: Pope Trying to Appease the Orthodox and the Lutherans
« Reply #9 on: Tue Jun 14, 2011 - 13:21:44 »

Individually, the Orthodox Must Reject Unity with the Roman Catholics.  And so should the Lutherans as the Bible warns about such a future confederation (Revelation 18:4).


You do realize that, a thousand years ago, the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox were already one Church?  What difference would it make if the schism ended?  It's not going to fulfill any prophecy.  The Church was one for a thousand years.

I did not write that ... A cog preacher did ..

as for me

I Hardly see any difference between orthodox catholic and roman catholic teaching .. They both point to works they must do to help themselves into heaven .

which is like-- spitting in Christ face..
we all spit in his face though  ,,, every time any of us give into sin..
yet  the sin of work rigteousness rejects the true faith in Jesus ..
just as much as judas betrayal did..


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Re: Pope Trying to Appease the Orthodox and the Lutherans
« Reply #10 on: Tue Jun 14, 2011 - 13:29:29 »

Individually, the Orthodox Must Reject Unity with the Roman Catholics.  And so should the Lutherans as the Bible warns about such a future confederation (Revelation 18:4).


You do realize that, a thousand years ago, the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox were already one Church?  What difference would it make if the schism ended?  It's not going to fulfill any prophecy.  The Church was one for a thousand years.

I did not right that a cog preacher did ..

as for me

I Hardly see any difference between orthodox catholic and roman catholic teaching .. They both point to works they must do to help themselves into heaven .

which is like-- spitting in Christ face..
we all spit in his face though  ,,, every time any of us give into any other sin also..
yet  the sin of work rigteousness rejects the true faith in Jesus ..
just as much as judas betrayal did..

You are funny to pick such strange teachers and post their articles.   Is this what Lutheranism is about, listening to any preacher and if it in any way supports anything that you partially agree with, even if you think some of it is false, you promote his work?

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Re: Pope Trying to Appease the Orthodox and the Lutherans
« Reply #11 on: Tue Jun 14, 2011 - 17:27:52 »

Individually, the Orthodox Must Reject Unity with the Roman Catholics.  And so should the Lutherans as the Bible warns about such a future confederation (Revelation 18:4).


You do realize that, a thousand years ago, the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox were already one Church?  What difference would it make if the schism ended?  It's not going to fulfill any prophecy.  The Church was one for a thousand years.

I did not right that a cog preacher did ..

as for me

I Hardly see any difference between orthodox catholic and roman catholic teaching .. They both point to works they must do to help themselves into heaven .

which is like-- spitting in Christ face..
we all spit in his face though  ,,, every time any of us give into any other sin also..
yet  the sin of work rigteousness rejects the true faith in Jesus ..
just as much as judas betrayal did..

You are funny to pick such strange teachers and post their articles.   Is this what Lutheranism is about, listening to any preacher and if it in any way supports anything that you partially agree with, even if you think some of it is false, you promote his work?

you listen to funny talking and looking popes  with FUNNY DOCTRINES AND FUNNY IDEAS and  funny hats and funny clown cars and funny clown suits. and who live in a funny place and you begrudge me what you think is --one funny Post  with a COG  preacher...   ::smile::
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