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« Reply #30 on: January 03, 2009, 10:00:01 AM »
Quote from: xzander on January 03, 2009, 01:50:43 AM
If I didn't is that a good enough reason for you?

I have no idea what you are trying to say?  Please elaborate.
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« Reply #31 on: January 03, 2009, 10:46:52 AM »
Of course we are always going to feel unworthy, because we know who we are, but that is where the
change must occur, it does not matter what others think, it only matters what God thinks.
He went to death for us, and it was no pleasant death.  And we can't even stop drinking,
or smoking, or doing drugs, or lying.  God expects and requires us to stand up for everything right.
And your only excuse is, "well I'm weak, and imperfect" then ask God for help,
really how complicated is that.  We all know our short comings, and each has his own vice,
but God is the constant he does not change for each individual soul, he wants the same
effort from us all.  There is only one way into heaven, the rules are not different for each soul.
Sin is wrong, and cannot be justified.
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« Reply #32 on: January 03, 2009, 11:50:14 AM »
I find it hard to comprehend that I have to debate sin with so called christians.
What bible do you read, cause really I find no basis for the things you are  trying
 to get me to believe.  All I feel is the devil working with you to change my mind, which is his job.
But it is not going to happen. How can you not see that you are trying too convince me,
that sin is unavoidable, that is just so baffling.  For a christian knows that when saved, sin is
nolonger acceptable. That is why Jesus died for it. It was not so you could continue in it,
thats for sure, and a true christian knows that.
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« Reply #33 on: January 03, 2009, 06:28:18 PM »
Quote from: xzander on January 03, 2009, 10:46:52 AM
Of course we are always going to feel unworthy, because we know who we are, but that is where the
change must occur, it does not matter what others think, it only matters what God thinks.
He went to death for us, and it was no pleasant death.  And we can't even stop drinking,
or smoking, or doing drugs, or lying.  God expects and requires us to stand up for everything right.
And your only excuse is, "well I'm weak, and imperfect" then ask God for help,
really how complicated is that.  We all know our short comings, and each has his own vice,
but God is the constant he does not change for each individual soul, he wants the same
effort from us all.  There is only one way into heaven, the rules are not different for each soul.
Sin is wrong, and cannot be justified.

Believing in the risen Christ is the way to heaven, not rules.  Romans 10:8-10

Sin can certainly make your life here less than Heavenly while you remain here, but the blood of Christ has cleansed us from all sin.  We can receive this cleansing when ever we choose to confess our sins to the Father in Jesus name.
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18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
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« Reply #34 on: January 25, 2009, 12:28:31 PM »
Well... I have read your ramblings, I have followed through the discussion here, and I'm not sure what you think makes you an extreme christian over others.

You seek to evangelise, that is good. It may look like you're into some kind of judaistic christianity, but I'm not certain of that.

You say you believe the Bible, and that it is your authority, that is good.

You're into extremes, but I'm not sure they all reflect Jesus' teachings.

btw the disciples had 3 &1/2 years of training under the best teacher. Paul says to commit your doctrines to faithful people. He also says, don't appoint a novice [which you may appear to be].

I'll get back to you. I may be too extreme for you.
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« Reply #35 on: February 04, 2009, 10:54:42 AM »
Quote from: llewksgood on January 25, 2009, 12:28:31 PM
Well... I have read your ramblings, I have followed through the discussion here, and I'm not sure what you think makes you an extreme christian over others.

You seek to evangelise, that is good. It may look like you're into some kind of judaistic christianity, but I'm not certain of that.

You say you believe the Bible, and that it is your authority, that is good.

You're into extremes, but I'm not sure they all reflect Jesus' teachings.

btw the disciples had 3 &1/2 years of training under the best teacher. Paul says to commit your doctrines to faithful people. He also says, don't appoint a novice [which you may appear to be].

I'll get back to you. I may be too extreme for you.

Who you talkin at?  Scratching head....a little confused.  Confused

And yeah... my my... the convo here has turned into something hostile.

I'm too extreme for all of you.

but that doesn't make me better than anyone.

Pff. I ain't even getting involved.

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« Reply #36 on: November 30, 2009, 11:54:51 PM »
Xzander,
I agree that God does not 'live' or dwell where sin is.  "God is light and in Him is no darkness at all" (1 Jhn 1:5).  Thise of us who have been "born-again" by the Holy Spirit are the children of light (Jhn 12:36; Eph 5:8; 1 Thess 5:5).  We, as believer's, do not live in sin (Rom 6:2).  If we do sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous (1 Jhn 2:1).
You are right when you say that we cannot "live in sin" and say we are in fellowship with God!  Still, if we di sin, the Holy Spirit will sear our conscience with coinviction and lead us to repentance (2 Peter 3:9b).
Besides, what is "extreme"?  We have an unction from the Holy One and we know all things (1 Jhn 2:20).  We are called to be "spiritual" and NOT "Carnal" (Rom 8:13).  SO, what could we as christians possibly consider to be "EXTREME"?  Paul states that he has learned to be content in all situations.  He knows how to be abased and he knows how to abound. (Phil 4:12).

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« Reply #37 on: December 09, 2009, 07:53:36 PM »
"Let he who is with out sin cast the first stone." Anyone care to make the first pitch?
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« Reply #38 on: December 21, 2009, 11:34:42 PM »
Quote from: Azrael on December 09, 2009, 07:53:36 PM
"Let he who is with out sin cast the first stone." Anyone care to make the first pitch?

(Looking for rocks}  We're not worthy! "Oh, hello blituri, you're here too?"
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« Reply #39 on: January 01, 2010, 02:21:43 PM »
 I see this as a mixed blessing of sorts, for although i was sinning, it is possible that God allowed me to go through everything I have so that I would know both sides of the picture.


God may have allowed you to live through this but He had nothing to do with it.  You chose to follow the enemy which means you turned your back on God.  Thank God a person can repent to God which means to turn from their wicked ways and come back to him.  Our salvation is a daily thing and we must work at it constantly. 

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« Reply #40 on: January 08, 2010, 05:33:55 PM »
Radical Christianity 101 taught at the School of the Tyrant by Paul in Ephesus no degree or license needed just knowing and obeying Christ is all that matters.

The following come out of Finland, God ain't dead He stills takes the foolish and the weak to confound the mighty and the wise.


AN "OUT-of-CHURCH" REVIVAL??
-by Mike Story.

I thought you'd be interested in what's happening here in Finland.

There is an extraordinary movement of the Holy Ghost here.
Something unprecedented in its size and growth.

Young people are Coming To Faith; they have an immediate
desire to go out into the streets and bring others into the fold.
There is NO interest in "church" or religion at all!

They want teaching and spiritual fathers & mothers; they know
"only milk" yet go out and teach that to kids in the streets ...
And they Come To Faith!

We have had to open our houses to them ( we were told to buy an
old village school 20 years ago...  so surprise-surprise  we have
two classrooms where we can train groups of future leaders ). Kids
are leaving the churches and seeking The Lord elsewhere because
they can't find Him in the religion and ceremonies and that applies
just as much to Pentecostal as to Free church, Lutheran, Orthodox,
Anglican, Baptist as it does to ALL Organised Religion: they WANT
what I call "inspired disorganisation" where MAN doesn't do the
organising; we just LISTEN ... And then do as we are told!

One young man ( to whom I have lent my copy of Out Of Church
Christians before I even read it myself ! ) is co-ordinating these
groups and acts as an enabler; bringing teaching from elders ( in
the "mature Christian" sense ) to beginners; arranging meetings
and encouraging these young people to keep going ! Very Book Of Acts!

The LORD is doing extraordinary things in India, in Andaman and
in Finland ... Thought you'd like to know!

-Dr Mike Story.
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« Reply #41 on: January 09, 2010, 03:29:07 AM »
Quote from: llewksgood on January 25, 2009, 12:28:31 PM
Well... I have read your ramblings, I have followed through the discussion here, and I'm not sure what you think makes you an extreme christian over others.

You seek to evangelise, that is good. It may look like you're into some kind of judaistic christianity, but I'm not certain of that.

You say you believe the Bible, and that it is your authority, that is good.

You're into extremes, but I'm not sure they all reflect Jesus' teachings.

btw the disciples had 3 &1/2 years of training under the best teacher. Paul says to commit your doctrines to faithful people. He also says, don't appoint a novice [which you may appear to be].

I'll get back to you. I may be too extreme for you.

True the disciples walked with Christ 3 1/2 years but later when it came to religion and religious matters they were deemed ignorant by the religious establishment of their day.
Paul and company started Churches and then due to persecution left before they had time to set in elders they actually came back on their return from their 1st missionary journey before they set them in. No Bible school training just a few weeks setting under Paul and Barnabas, yet the Scriptures teach they were filled with joy and the Spirit.

There were no pastor or leaders in place they were left on their own, they were mostly Gentile believers who in those times were probably uneducated; yet they had church and seemingly prospered in what they were doing after setting only a short time under Paul and Barnabas' teaching. Later on their return trip as they headed back to Antioch Paul and Barnabas set in elders in the bay churches they had planted Baby churches, baby Christians even when Paul and company returned perhaps a year or so later they would still have been considered novices by our standards yet out of that Paul and Barnabas set in elders, choosing the more mature not to pastor in the present day sense of the word but to lead by their example servant-hood and not by lording it over the flock as may modern day ministries tend to do(Acts 13:44-52; 14:21-28).
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« Reply #42 on: January 27, 2010, 02:06:09 PM »
     So you want extreme christians. I am about as extreme as you get. How can i help.
I am also a minister, a apostle and a prophet. But i did not go to any bible school or semanary. Because God teaches his own. As fortold in the prophets. And people who were not my people have become my people and i have become there God. And they shall have no need that anyone shall teach them for i myself shall teach them.
     For this reason those taught in most bible teaching instutions lack any power and do not manifest the power of God, Which is also how you know a false preacher. So what is the need friend.
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« Reply #43 on: January 27, 2010, 02:20:45 PM »
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     Indeed what you are seeing in Findland is what Jesus was speaking about in the parable of the wedding feast. When the Father of the groom had invited his friends to come to the wedding feast and they were to busy to come. He finially send his servents out into the highways and byways. Even to those with out a wedding garment.
     This will increase world wide and the youth will be the servents send into the highways and byways. The Lord also fortold this in his riding his ass beside the temple on his last days on earth. As it was in that time it shall be in this time. The Lord shall depart from the dead church and go into the highways. This is already happening. There will also arise a new type of christian, those who work mericals and manifest the power of God. The last shall be greater then the former. But be wise in this hour and slander no one nor judge a thing rashly. For these shall walk as Prophets and Apostles and shall be under direct protection of God. These are forrunners of the coming Lord and also of the two wintesses.
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