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« Reply #15 on: February 27, 2009, 04:15:16 PM »

And what possible motivation would god have for putting footprints/fossils etc in the ground that are millions of years old.Of course he could do it, but the only possible motivation for anything is to confuse us if he meant us to take the bible word for literal 6 day word.

How do you know they are millions of years old?

Ahh, because Ph.D's who devote their entire lives to this type of study say they are and we aren't foolish enough to dismiss their credibility or their findings simply because we don't understand all the details of their methods or because the findings may be contradictory to what we have been taught in the past.
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« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2009, 10:45:59 PM »

Does this discredit the young earth theory, or is it just another deception by the same people who faked the moon landing?

Does this discredit the young earth theory, or is it just another deception by the same people who faked the moon landing?




Its just a bunch of evolutionists dribble da-da  reading what they want into what's been found.

No real scientist would take them seriously now days their is simply to much better science that shows how evolution can not possably be true .
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« Reply #17 on: February 28, 2009, 04:48:58 AM »

Does this discredit the young earth theory, or is it just another deception by the same people who faked the moon landing?

Does this discredit the young earth theory, or is it just another deception by the same people who faked the moon landing?




Its just a bunch of evolutionists dribble da-da  reading what they want into what's been found.

No real scientist would take them seriously now days their is simply to much better science that shows how evolution can not possably be true .


I have my own problems with Darwinian Evolution, but such statements really don't give me much solice and comfort.

Just where do I find these "real scientists" and all this "much better science" that you speak of here?  By the way what are "real scientists" and what is "better science"?
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« Reply #18 on: February 28, 2009, 05:20:08 AM »

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I Don't Believe In Any Of This, Period!

I believe it.

But I do not believe that atomic decay is constant..

No one says atomic decay is constant.  The basis for radiometric dating is that the half life for a given radioactive isotope is a constant.  This has been demonstrated again and again.  If you have information showing this is not the case, I would be interested in seeing it.
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« Reply #19 on: February 28, 2009, 06:28:44 AM »

Does this discredit the young earth theory, or is it just another deception by the same people who faked the moon landing?

Does this discredit the young earth theory, or is it just another deception by the same people who faked the moon landing?




Its just a bunch of evolutionists dribble da-da  reading what they want into what's been found.

No real scientist would take them seriously now days their is simply to much better science that shows how evolution can not possably be true .


Seriously, how do you get your head so far buried in your own delusion. Do you actually believe that? Do you believe that real scientists dont believe the evidence?

How is the US education system this awful.
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« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2009, 12:36:16 PM »

I wonder why these human footprints are beyond the pale and the Glenrose Paluxy footprints are hoaxes?

Plus Onelung you mentioned the unmentionable originally. Your post referred to "climate change". I thought climate was static until man came along and screwed it all up.
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« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2009, 12:55:53 PM »

I wonder why these human footprints are beyond the pale and the Glenrose Paluxy footprints are hoaxes?

Plus Onelung you mentioned the unmentionable originally. Your post referred to "climate change". I thought climate was static until man came along and screwed it all up.

The only way Creationists could credibly and successfully refute the findings of science would be for them to obtain their own Ph.D's and do the research themselves.  The problem with that is, the few Creationists who are intellectually capable of obtaining a Ph.D would no longer be Creationists by the time they completed their post graduate work.  Bueno!


Special Note: By "Creationist," I am refering to those who believe that man is only 6000 years old.
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« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2009, 01:01:47 PM »

Because jamie, after those tracks were analysed, they did not stand up.
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« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2009, 01:06:15 PM »

Because jamie, after those tracks were analysed, they did not stand up.

The tracks are dinosaur era. I wonder if anyone ever came up with any ideas on what kind of animal did make them.
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« Reply #24 on: March 01, 2009, 01:09:36 PM »

Some of them were forgeries, cut into the rock by locals who sold fossils during the depression.

Others are metatarsal prints.
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« Reply #25 on: March 01, 2009, 04:54:05 PM »

Because jamie, after those tracks were analysed, they did not stand up.

Yes, I've heard that, but the info I have read that some of the doubters published primarily uses the argument that they have to be faked because to believe otherwise would be to disprove evolution. That didn't seem all that scientific to me. I doubt they are human also, but the arguments against seemed to be rather weak.
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« Reply #26 on: March 01, 2009, 10:12:01 PM »

I read this the other day.  It might be interesting to those here.

Ever heard of Phillip Henry Gosse? 

well.. it is one big made up universe... God is perfectly capable of creating it intact at any point of development if he so chose.


This theory is similar what Gosse wrote in a book called Omphalos.  He was a well respected scientist and illustrator.

Did Adam have a navel?  Smile

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omphalos_(book)

In 1857, Gosse wrote the book in attempt to answer the fossil record.  He said that since the Bible trumps all of man's interpretation of nature... then creation must have been made mature.  Thus much of what appears old in creation, even the fossil record, is merely an illusion.  It only appears old - just as mature trees in the garden of eden would have tree rings, or Adam would have had a naval.

His book was never taken very seriously.

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Gosse worked with remarkable diligence on a book that he may have viewed as the most important of his career. Although a failure both financially and intellectually, it is the book by which he is best remembered.[30] Gosse believed that he had discovered a theory that might neatly resolve the seeming contradiction in the age of the earth between the evidence of God's Word and the evidence of His creation as expounded by such contemporary geologists as Charles Lyell.[31] In 1857, two years before the publication of Charles Darwin's, Origin of Species, Gosse published Omphalos: an Attempt to Untie the Geological Knot and thereby created what has been called the Omphalos hypothesis.

In what Stephen Jay Gould has called "glorious purple prose,"[32] Gosse argued that if one assumed creation ex nihilo, there would necessarily be traces of previous existence that had never actually occurred. "Omphalos" is Greek for "navel", and Gosse argued that the first man, Adam, did not require a navel because he was never born; nevertheless he must have had one, as do all complete human beings, just as God must have created trees with rings that they never grew.[33] Thus, Gosse argued that the fossil record—even coprolites—might also be evidence of life that had never actually existed but which may have been instantly formed by God at the moment of creation.[34]

The general response was "as the Westminster Review put it, that Gosse's theory was 'too monstrous for belief.'" Even his friend, the novelist Charles Kingsley, wrote that he had read "no other book which so staggered and puzzled" him, that he could not believe that God had "written on the rocks one enormous and superfluous lie for all mankind."[35] Journalists later sniggered that God had apparently hidden fossils in the rocks to tempt geologists to infidelity.[36]

Omphalos sold poorly and was eventually rebound with a new title, Creation, "in case the obscure one had had an effect on sales." The problem was not with the title, and in 1869 most of the edition was sold as waste paper.[37]

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« Reply #27 on: March 01, 2009, 10:24:46 PM »

He was a well respected scientist and illustrator.

A self-taught naturalist who read a couple of books on entomology is a scientist? Not even close even by mid 19th Century standards.


His book was never taken very seriously.

Can't imagine why.
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« Reply #28 on: March 01, 2009, 11:16:12 PM »

He was a well respected scientist and illustrator.

A self-taught naturalist who read a couple of books on entomology is a scientist? Not even close even by mid 19th Century standards.


His book was never taken very seriously.

Can't imagine why.

Well... he was elected into the Royal Society - I doubt that would have happened if he was thought to be a complete crackpot.  He did lose a lot of respect after the publication of the book though.  Also remember that he published this book 2 years before Darwin's Origin of Species.  Young earth creationism was still thought to be a viable explanation at the time - modern geology was a relatively new science.
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« Reply #29 on: March 02, 2009, 12:32:32 PM »

Hey may have at the time been doing the best with the data he had.
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