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beethoven's violin music...on his own violin
« on: Fri Aug 04, 2006 - 14:29:05 »
BBC NEWS
First CD for Beethoven's violin
Beethoven's own violin has been used in a recording for the first time, according to the Beethoven Foundation.

It was played by German violinist Daniel Sepec on a CD of the composer's violin and piano sonatas.

The instrument, which is engraved with Beethoven's insignia, was in his family's possession until the early 19th Century. Beethoven died in 1827.

The violin ended up in the US and was returned to the Beethoven Foundation in 1995 for a symbolic sum.

It was restored in 1848, and again when acquired by the Foundation.

The new CD comes with a 31-page booklet describing the history of the instrument.

Beethoven wrote 10 violin sonatas and one concerto for violin and orchestra, as well as some unpublished violin works.

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« Reply #1 on: Fri Aug 04, 2006 - 19:21:01 »
For me (a music lover) that would have been like drinking from the Holy Grail! Imagine - getting to play Beethoven's own personal violin!

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« Reply #2 on: Fri Aug 04, 2006 - 19:57:26 »
That would be neat.  Yet, the strings and the bow would be different.  I wonder what the decades have done to the wood of the violin.

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Re: beethoven's violin music...on his own violin
« Reply #3 on: Sat Aug 05, 2006 - 02:47:35 »
decades only make stradivari more valuable.  i wonder who made this one?
were i recording with it, since it's an original, i'd use gut strings to get an approximation of the timbre ludwig would have had in mind.

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« Reply #4 on: Sat Aug 05, 2006 - 08:33:14 »
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decades only make stradivari more valuable.
True.  But, it made it different, too.  Likewise, Beethoven's violin may have "improved" since he had it, but that's my point: it's different, it's not quite the same as when he played it.

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Re: beethoven's violin music...on his own violin
« Reply #5 on: Sat Aug 05, 2006 - 09:44:48 »
Twice-restored.  Older. Gone thru various altitude and weather pressure changes, humidity changes, etc.  Sure it's different.

The spoon I used as a baby is different now too.  :) 

I guess we'll never hear exactly what ol' Beethoven heard.

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« Reply #6 on: Sat Aug 05, 2006 - 10:46:39 »
... seeing as how he was deaf ...

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Re: beethoven's violin music...on his own violin
« Reply #7 on: Mon Aug 07, 2006 - 12:57:55 »
Ever listen to recordings from before the turn of the (20th) century of classical performances of orchestral or operatic works? This may be blasphemy, but in my opinion, if you compensate for the poorer recording quality and try to appreciate the actual quality of the original performance and compare it to today's standards, they kinda sucked back then.

I know Caruso was some kind of stud tenor, but I just don't like the sound of his voice. We just do it better nowadays.

Just sayin', is all.

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« Reply #8 on: Mon Aug 07, 2006 - 13:19:43 »


The spoon I used as a baby is different now too.  :) 



From what I've read,  it seems that any physical object you can name -  a person,  a piece of furniture,  a book,  what have you,  doesn't contain the same atoms that it contained 25 or 30 years ago.

So nothing's ever the same, really.

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« Reply #9 on: Mon Aug 07, 2006 - 15:22:45 »
Even nostalgia isn't what it used to be.

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« Reply #10 on: Wed Aug 09, 2006 - 21:43:51 »


The spoon I used as a baby is different now too.  :) 



From what I've read,  it seems that any physical object you can name -  a person,  a piece of furniture,  a book,  what have you,  doesn't contain the same atoms that it contained 25 or 30 years ago.

So nothing's ever the same, really.

Depends on what you're talking about. Living beings shed and accumulate molecules constantly. Wood furniture may interact with the air on its surface quite a bit, but deeper inside, assuming it is not overly humid, the wood beneath the surface should remain inert. Metal objects, the same: static interior, oxidizing surface area. The metal atoms should still be there, regardless.

Most solid objects don't sublimate their material. Rather, they absorb air particulates and moisture and then disintegrate (i.e. the material crumbles away), but the original material is still present and accounted for.

 

     
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