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« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2009, 01:50:12 PM »

Why are the "real" news stations glossing over his muslimness?

http://www.cnn.com/2009/US/11/05/texas.fort.hood.shootings/index.html

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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,572571,00.html

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« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2009, 02:10:28 PM »

The shooter is an American citizen, born in America.

How would WW2 have turned out if we kicked the catholics and Lutherans out of the armed forces before we went to Europe?

If the Catholics and Lutherans were collaborating with known enemies of the US at the time over the phone or telegraph praising efforts to kill Americans, it would be equal to this Muslim blogging on a radical Islamic website about the attributes of suicide bombers.

That the US and Canadian governments rounded up all the Japanese citizens in 1942 and incarcerated them for the duration of the war was a radical, yet effective way to prevent fifth column activity from flourishing, knowing that the attack on Pearl harbour could not have been completed with the degree of effectiveness it had without the work of Japanese agents on Oahu.

I find it incredulous in the wake of ongoing Muslim terrorism in North America and abroad, that the U.S. Armed Forces would even consider allowing Muslims into their ranks. It defies common sense. I should think that if the U.S. Congressmen of 1942 were alive today, they would undoubtedly be actively moving to deport all Muslim non-citizens and perhaps even going so far as to incarcerate any suspicious U.S. Muslim citizens/groups.

Even in the wake of Fort Hood, we can be sure that very little will be done to protect U.S. and N.A.T.O. troops from similar future kinds of attacks, being that the politically-correct in power don't possess the moral resolve to undertake radical action. The sacrifice of a few hundred of our troops every year under the current " half-measures" of combatting terrorism just isn't going to give the West the upper hand.

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« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2009, 02:10:48 PM »

I don't know.  The report I heard this morning mentioned it all, including his radical statements, but I'm honestly not sure which network it was.  I know it was one with a local affiliate, because I had it on for the weather--I usually watch the CBS affiliate in the pre-national hours, but I watch the NBC affiliate as well (I don't like their local morning guy, who smiles and bobs his head with every tragic story, so it was likely the CBS one.) Whichever one I was watching reported all this in a national story.

'course I listened to NPR on the short drive to work, so it may have been there.
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« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2009, 02:22:04 PM »

NPR usually covers all the angles...it was probably them.

I haven't figured out our local stations yet, so I am flipping between the national channels.

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« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2009, 03:04:26 PM »

Catholics and Lutherans were not killing American soldiers.


What were the German soldiers then?
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« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2009, 03:11:10 PM »

Catholics and Lutherans were not killing American soldiers.


What were the German soldiers then?

They wore handy uniforms of the opposite side. And they weren't killing in the name of Catholic or Lutheran Christianity.
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« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2009, 06:53:12 PM »

NPR usually covers all the angles...it was probably them.

I haven't figured out our local stations yet, so I am flipping between the national channels.

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It appears so.  A little while ago, they reported that the shooter had given a speech at a military conference about the Koran and said in the speech that all infidels were Hell-bound.

How was he allowed to continue in his position?
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« Reply #22 on: November 06, 2009, 07:05:53 PM »

NPR usually covers all the angles...it was probably them.

I haven't figured out our local stations yet, so I am flipping between the national channels.

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It appears so.  A little while ago, they reported that the shooter had given a speech at a military conference about the Koran and said in the speech that all infidels were Hell-bound.

How was he allowed to continue in his position?

Why was he allowed to continue in his position? 

Uhmmm... Because the military is really, really big and really, really bureaucratic and it takes a really, really long time to take action on personnel matters?  And perhaps because the military is strained fighting two wars, and needs all the soldiers it can get?

As I recall, this isn't the first, or even the bloodiest massacre in Killeen history.  Didn't the Luby's killer kill nearly twice as many people?  Wasn't he a white, conservative, presumably (nominal) christian from a well-to-do family who'd served in the navy? 

Does that mean that white conservative christian males should be barred from the military, as k-pappy's logic would suggest?

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« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2009, 07:20:10 PM »

In this case, it looks as if he was trying to get out (and had been for years,) but was unable to.  I understand that the approach we're taking benefits if we have Muslims serving, and that's not what I'm talking about.  I'm not a person who believes that all Muslims want to kill us.  It's just that this particular person seems to have put up so many red flags, that someone somewhere should have realized that the benefits of keeping him in the military didn't outweigh the risk.

I would guess that this question will be asked a lot in the coming days.
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« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2009, 10:00:52 AM »

Of course all Muslims don't want to kill us. Only the devout true believers. We call them radicals. They makeup about 10 percent of the Muslim population of over 1.2 Billion worldwide. We only have to be concerned with about 120 million.

 
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« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2009, 10:32:34 AM »

This man, as we have come to find out in recent days, had been flying under the radar for some time. However, the DOD, US Army, and CIA had knowledge and proof of this guy and his radical potential. Being in the military, I understand the constant tug-of-war going on between our gov, our military, civil rights, and the rights of muslims in this country and in our military.

He spoke of his intentions on a number of occassions. This man was no hero....though he's been in the military for a number of years, to refuse to deploy into a combat zone is ridiculous. We have men and women with families at home, who suffer and struggle for 12-15 months, worrying over their Loved ones on foreign soil. Because of his "beliefs", or as we have come to learn, his cowardice, he fought being deployed. This was NOT a case of a man trying to seperate from the military, instead, it was a man who didnt want to go to iraq/afgan...PERIOD!

Because the military/gov feared retribution from religious groups, they chose to turn a blind eye to the possibilities this man carried....now there are 13 true Americans dead and 1000's of others affected by this tragedy.

Appriximately 2 months before this took place, another muslim was actually given special rights by our gov and Army. His situation was voted on and it was decides that he could grow out his beard and wear his native headdress. As a Christian, I am not allowed to wear bracelets with any Christian symbols. I am, however, allowed to wear a cross around my neck, though, it has to be attached to my dogtags....which, ironically enough, have to be inside my acu top, covered at ALL times.

When are we, as Christians, gonna stand up and say enough is enough.  I understand the mind-set of most Christians..."Im saved so all ive gotta do is keep a low profile and await the LORD's return" .... to me, that is just pure BULL....For every event like these two that take place, we are losing out on possible brothers and sisters in CHRIST....there are 13 soldiers that will never again hear the LORD's word....I pray for their souls BUT, as we all know, if they weren't saved before their death, the time has passed.
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« Reply #26 on: November 19, 2009, 08:28:41 AM »

It's sad that the CIA and FBI dropped the ball on this Hassan. They had plenty of red flags raised on this guy eleven months prior to this incident, and could have prevented this whole mess, but they failed to take action on him. Now heres what they need to do. Take Nadal Hassan and strap a bomb to him and then send him to the Tailiban and detonate his sorry butt.
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« Reply #27 on: November 19, 2009, 03:33:06 PM »

Above all else, we must be politically correct!  Smacking

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« Reply #28 on: November 30, 2009, 08:36:57 AM »




    A few years ago an American soldier of Muslim conviction threw a fragmentation grenade into a headquarters
    tent in Iraq.  So Fort Hood was nothing new.
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« Reply #29 on: November 30, 2009, 08:39:02 AM »

mustn't jump to conclusions..... just jump .....when you hear "Ala akbar!"   True, they may have just hit their thumb with a hammer.
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