Author Topic: Tesla..... my first experince riding in one~amazing POWER (Read 998 times)

RB · « **on:** Sun Oct 23, 2022 - 15:57:35 »

https://www.tesla.com/ My best friend brought one and we went on a drive and truly it drove us 100% we talked while it took us on a twenty miles plus trip and back.

It cost about three cents a mile to drive, but the car cost $160.000. But my friend brought it just to have it because he could. He's a CEO of a large company in Augusta Ga.

It goes 0-60 in three seconds and he showed me!

Elon Musk is from another plant! he's so far ahead of most companies in many area's.

mommydi · « **Reply #1 on:** Sun Oct 23, 2022 - 16:01:32 »

Sounds fun, RB!!

Thanks for sharing your experience with us.

RB · « **Reply #2 on:** Mon Oct 24, 2022 - 05:00:04 »

Quote from: mommydi on Sun Oct 23, 2022 - 16:01:32

Sounds fun, RB!!

Thanks for sharing your experience with us.

It was nice~he has the Model X. He drives it everywhere ...well him and his dog. He has a family car that his wife drives the grandchildren around but she does not drive his car because she has not figured it out yet. It takes time to get used to, but I could...it's a man's thing, to be honest with you. But that will change, it all will moving forward but not in our lifetime...that's if the Lord tarries.

To be honest with you~I love my truck more! But, I'm not a Georgia Tech graduate who loves technology, and rightly so. My grandson was with us visiting since he lives in Agusta while his wife is at medical school and they came over Friday night to eat with us, and of course, he love it~him and Bob both finished at Tech and they live in a different world from simple little me.

Texas Conservative · « **Reply #3 on:** Mon Oct 24, 2022 - 07:16:16 »

Quote from: RB on Sun Oct 23, 2022 - 15:57:35

https://www.tesla.com/ My best friend brought one and we went on a drive and truly it drove us 100% we talked while it took us on a twenty miles plus trip and back.

It cost about three cents a mile to drive, but the car cost $160.000. But my friend brought it just to have it because he could. He's a CEO of a large company in Augusta Ga.

It goes 0-60 in three seconds and he showed me!

Elon Musk is from another plant! he's so far ahead of most companies in many area's.

If you got 160,000 miles out of this car, it would cost you $1 a mile to drive plus the approximately 0.03 a mile for charging it, and that is without fast chargers. Not a very good deal. Total cost over that 160,000 miles is most likely about 170k.

I have a Ford Focus, I bought it for $14.5k. For 160,000 mile of this car, it is $0.09 cents a mile, plus about .17 cents a mile at $6 a gallon. Ford Focus total cost at $6 a gallon for the entire time would be 42k.

I will be skipping electric vehicles for quite a while.

If you are rich, and this isn't a big portion of your money, I can understand. I would probably still get a big diesel truck if money were no object.

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mommydi · « **Reply #4 on:** Mon Oct 24, 2022 - 10:33:43 »

Quote from: Texas Conservative on Mon Oct 24, 2022 - 07:16:16

I will be skipping electric vehicles for quite a while.

Same.
I've been looking at gasoline powered Audis for about a year now. That's probably my next car. Might as well start spending the kids' inheritance.

Wycliffes_Shillelagh · « **Reply #5 on:** Mon Oct 24, 2022 - 11:09:56 »

Quote from: RB on Sun Oct 23, 2022 - 15:57:35

https://www.tesla.com/ My best friend brought one and we went on a drive and truly it drove us 100% we talked while it took us on a twenty miles plus trip and back.

It cost about three cents a mile to drive, but the car cost $160.000. But my friend brought it just to have it because he could. He's a CEO of a large company in Augusta Ga.

It goes 0-60 in three seconds and he showed me!

Elon Musk is from another plant! he's so far ahead of most companies in many area's.

The head of our firm has one, and the acceleration is really something else. To be honest, I don't much like being a passenger when he drives, as he does things that don't safe to me, but I guess if you know what the car will do perhaps they are.

RB · « **Reply #6 on:** Mon Oct 24, 2022 - 12:20:54 »

Quote from: mommydi on Mon Oct 24, 2022 - 10:33:43

Same.
I've been looking at gasoline powered Audis for about a year now. That's probably my next car. Might as well start spending the kids' inheritance.

If you do not, one of the children will~of the four I have, one would spend everything pretty sure of that, but, then again, I would never know that's the only good thing.

I offered my wife a new Toyota Highlander, but she chose to give her car to my son and brought her step-father's Honda, which he never used very much anyway.

RB · « **Reply #7 on:** Mon Oct 24, 2022 - 12:31:10 »

Quote from: Wycliffes_Shillelagh on Mon Oct 24, 2022 - 11:09:56

The head of our firm has one, and the acceleration is really something else. To be honest, I don't much like being a passenger when he drives, as he does things that don't safe to me, but I guess if you know what the car will do perhaps they are.

Knowing more about the car and how Musk's company is outperforming ALL major car companies in the world, gave me a deeper appreciation of his genius~he is even ahead of NASA, in some areas even to a point that they ARE FUNDING HIM, not sure to what degree, but they are. He's a very brilliant person, and has proved that he is......$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$~or, is it just "white privilege"?

It truly is not a race issue, but the blessings of God upon such people, according to his own will, even though he may leave them bankrupt spiritually speaking.

Cobalt1959 · « **Reply #8 on:** Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 02:07:10 »

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If you got 160,000 miles out of this car, it would cost you $1 a mile to drive plus the approximately 0.03 a mile for charging it, and that is without fast chargers. Not a very good deal. Total cost over that 160,000 miles is most likely about 170k.

I have a Ford Focus, I bought it for $14.5k. For 160,000 mile of this car, it is $0.09 cents a mile, plus about .17 cents a mile at $6 a gallon. Ford Focus total cost at $6 a gallon for the entire time would be 42k.

I will be skipping electric vehicles for quite a while.

If you are rich, and this isn't a big portion of your money, I can understand. I would probably still get a big diesel truck if money were no object.

I have a 2005 Ford Focus ZX3. I am the 3rd of 4th owner. It has 424,000 miles on it. It still runs strong although it has several rattles and squeaks at that age. Work is 2.5 miles one way so it costs me hardly anything to run. A full tank of gas will last a month. My wife has a 2011 Focus sedan. I have a "thing" about Fords.

The performance of EV's is phenomenal. But the drawbacks outweigh the pluses right now. When the batteries fail the cost to replace them is exorbitant. They are actually much harder on the environment when it comes to gathering the raw materials to manufacture them, the manufacture process itself and disposing of them than fossil-fueled cars are, and the batteries themselves are a clear and present danger. Lithium-ion batteries are volatile, especially in the case of an accident, or sudden temperature changes. The running count on Tesla fatalities in an accident stands, right now, at 38. And all those were caused by the car getting in an accident, and it caught fire. The Tesla, and all cars using lithium-ion batteries are the equivalent of driving around in the Hindenberg. It isn't a question of if your EV will spontaneously combust, it's a question of when.

Jaime · « **Reply #9 on:** Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 04:53:04 »

It’s weird the reolacement cost of a battery for an EV is about twice what I paid for my first house and I had a 30 year note on it. I’m either getting old or things are totally bonkers, or……….both.

RB · « **Reply #10 on:** Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 05:18:50 »

Quote from: Jaime on Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 04:53:04

It’s weird the reolacement cost of a battery for an EV is about twice what I paid for my first house and I had a 30 year note on it. I’m either getting old or things are totally bonkers, or……….both.

Thye cost six times what I paid for my first house, and I had a note on that as well! Things have changed. I well remember as a little boy back in the late fifties, and early sixties I could go to the local little mom-and-pop store and buy a lot for .25 cents, now a tax on a meal for a child at McDonald's is more than that!

It is good to read what others have to say about battery-powered cars like Tesla. It IS something to think about for sure. But, folks with money really do not care on the cost of replacement batteries, etc. That's not a concern of theirs. But other things mentioned by Cobalt1959 should be.

mommydi · « **Reply #11 on:** Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 05:38:25 »

Quote from: Cobalt1959 on Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 02:07:10

I have a "thing" about Fords.

I'm driving a Ford Escape. I haven't had any mechanical problems with it whatsoever which is important to me - however - it's uncomfortable, the visibility is terrible, road noise is awful, and I feel like I'm getting a whiplash every time I drive it. You know you're getting old when all you care about in a car is comfort and visibility.

That car registers and amplifies every scratch in the pavement. I'd like a sedan the next time.
My parents used to have a huge Lincoln Continental that felt like a boat sailing down the road. In fact, we all called it "the boat." Never felt a bump in the road and quiet ride. I miss quiet rides. I swear, I'm getting old.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lkc5Woyy47I&t=1940s

RB · « **Reply #12 on:** Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 06:06:52 »

Quote from: mommydi on Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 05:38:25

I'm driving a Ford Escape. I haven't had any mechanical problems with it whatsoever which is important to me - however - it's uncomfortable, the visibility is terrible, road noise is awful, and I feel like I'm getting a whiplash every time I drive it. You know you're getting old when all you care about in a car is comfort and visibility. That car registers and amplifies every scratch in the pavement. I'd like a sedan the next time.
My parents used to have a huge Lincoln Continental that felt like a boat sailing down the road. In fact, we all called it "the boat." Never felt a bump in the road and quiet ride. I miss quiet rides. I swear, I'm getting old.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lkc5Woyy47I&t=1940s

I LOVE a smooth ride and my Tundra 1794 gives me that and MORE.

Texas Conservative · « **Reply #13 on:** Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 08:20:05 »

Quote from: mommydi on Mon Oct 24, 2022 - 10:33:43

Same.
I've been looking at gasoline powered Audis for about a year now. That's probably my next car. Might as well start spending the kids' inheritance.

If you want luxury, I would go with a Lexus (Toyota). Much better made cars, and less expensive to get fixed. One of my coworkers ditched his Audi when he found out how much it would cost to get a routine brake job done.

mommydi · « **Reply #14 on:** Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 08:24:26 »

Quote from: RB on Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 06:06:52

I LOVE a smooth ride and my Tundra 1794 gives me that and MORE.

OK, I had to look-

https://news.pickuptrucks.com/2020/01/what-is-the-toyota-tundra-1794-edition.html

Looks so nice. That saddle brown leather interior is what I'm wanting in a sedan.

mommydi · « **Reply #15 on:** Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 08:26:33 »

Quote from: Texas Conservative on Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 08:20:05

If you want luxury, I would go with a Lexus (Toyota). Much better made cars, and less expensive to get fixed. One of my coworkers ditched his Audi when he found out how much it would cost to get a routine brake job done.

Thanks. I will give them a look, TC.

Alan · « **Reply #16 on:** Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 09:12:20 »

The new GMC Denali EV boasts 730HP and claims it has a 650 mile range on a full charge. Probably very expensive. We aren't very well equipped to handle charging needs in this part of the world, and my home is pretty much maxxed out on electrical with everything I have added to this house. I have two open spots on my 100amp panel, and that is minimum code, so installing a 220V dedicated charger is out of the question. I could upgrade to a 200amp panel, but the electricity company would have to change the stack and the primary wires coming from the street, that's about a $10,000 job.

Gas is $1.60/litre here, that equates to US $4.46/gallon. I have a 2016 Canyon, it gets fairly decent mileage, so I'm staying put for now.

Rella · « **Reply #17 on:** Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 09:22:21 »

Quote from: Alan on Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 09:12:20

The new GMC Denali EV boasts 730HP and claims it has a 650 mile range on a full charge. Probably very expensive. We aren't very well equipped to handle charging needs in this part of the world, and my home is pretty much maxxed out on electrical with everything I have added to this house. I have two open spots on my 100amp panel, and that is minimum code, so installing a 220V dedicated charger is out of the question. I could upgrade to a 200amp panel, but the electricity company would have to change the stack and the primary wires coming from the street, that's about a $10,000 job.

Gas is $1.60/litre here, that equates to US $4.46/gallon. I have a 2016 Canyon, it gets fairly decent mileage, so I'm staying put for now.

Plus less chance of catching on fire

RB · « **Reply #18 on:** Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 09:41:47 »

Quote from: mommydi on Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 08:24:26

OK, I had to look-

https://news.pickuptrucks.com/2020/01/what-is-the-toyota-tundra-1794-edition.html

Looks so nice. That saddle brown leather interior is what I'm wanting in a sedan.

I have saddle brown leather interior~it's about eight years old and I'm ready for another one. maybe I'll wait a year or so before buying~mine has low mileage.

My next one I want this one: https://www.chevrolet.com/trucks/previous-year/silverado/2500hd-3500hd

We shall see if it works out.............wait and see how the economy goes. I have had several Fords for my business and care nothing for them. Never again. I brought four new ones in one year, one was a lemon! The Ford Econoline vans were good, at least better than the trucks.

Now, I will say the 7.3 motor Ford had built by International was the best engine they ever had for trucks. But, that is the only one. the 6.0 diseal is the worse of all time! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptuvEwEVkT4 I had one so sorry. a $60.000 nightmare!

Alan · « **Reply #19 on:** Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 09:46:58 »

Quote from: Rella on Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 09:22:21

Plus less chance of catching on fire

From everything I have read, there is still a much higher chance of an ICE vehicle catching fire than an EV, the problem is that fires with gasoline can be contained very quickly with modern firefighting techniques, not so much with lithium batteries.

Alan · « **Reply #20 on:** Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 09:48:42 »

Quote from: RB on Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 09:41:47

I have saddle brown leather interior~it's about eight years old and I'm ready for another one. maybe I'll wait a year or so before buying~mine has low mileage.

My next one I want this one: https://www.chevrolet.com/trucks/previous-year/silverado/2500hd-3500hd

We shall see if it works out.............wait and see how the economy goes. I have had several Fords for my business and care nothing for them. Never again. I brought four new ones in one year, one was a lemon! The Ford Econoline vans were good, at least better than the trucks.

Now, I will say the 7.3 motor Ford had built by International was the best engine they ever had for trucks. But, that is the only one. the 6.0 diseal is the worse of all time! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptuvEwEVkT4 I had one so sorry. a $60.000 nightmare!

This one is for you!

https://www.chevrolet.com/electric/silverado-ev

Or the Denali

https://www.gmc.com/future-vehicles/sierra-ev-denali

4WD · « **Reply #21 on:** Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 09:57:03 »

I haven't seen a favorable review of any EV truck. I wouldn't have one if someone were to give it to me any longer than it would take to sell it. Just wait until California bans gasoline vehicles and see how many RVers visit there. The whole EV thing is nothing but an elaborate "WOKE" endeavor to kill the economy and ruin peoples' lives.

The EVs are little more than glorified golf carts with the exception that golf carts don't catch on fire like EVs.

mommydi · « **Reply #22 on:** Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 10:02:18 »

Quote from: 4WD on Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 09:57:03

I haven't seen a favorable review of any EV truck. I wouldn't have one if someone were to give it to me any longer than it would take to sell it. Just wait until California bans gasoline vehicles and see how many RVers visit there. The whole EV thing is nothing but an elaborate "WOKE" endeavor to kill the economy and ruin peoples' lives.

The EVs are little more than glorified golf carts with the exception that golf carts don't catch on fire like EVs.

I agree with you, 4.

Texas Conservative · « **Reply #23 on:** Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 10:15:39 »

RV Truck range is severely depleted when pulling a load. If you run a business and need to pull a trailer, your truck better stay extremely local.

Texas Conservative · « **Reply #24 on:** Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 10:17:00 »

I think another piece of advice I have heard is never buy the first model year of any car/truck.

Texas Conservative · « **Reply #25 on:** Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 10:20:53 »

The Silverado EV looks like a souped up Honda Ridgeline.

mommydi · « **Reply #26 on:** Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 10:26:39 »

Everything about it-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imkgbRe97eY

Except the price.

Alan · « **Reply #27 on:** Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 12:04:54 »

Quote from: Texas Conservative on Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 10:20:53

The Silverado EV looks like a souped up Honda Ridgeline.

Yep, kinda hanging onto that ugly Avalanche styling that had the most useless payload of any truck on the market.

As I said above, EVs are not for me for numerous reasons, but one I didn't mention is the monopoly on energy I believe we’re being set up for. Electricity prices are crazy right now, but once they convince everyone to use a single form of energy, the prices will skyrocket out of control.

Alan · « **Reply #28 on:** Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 12:08:01 »

Quote from: Texas Conservative on Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 10:15:39

RV Truck range is severely depleted when pulling a load. If you run a business and need to pull a trailer, your truck better stay extremely local.

Also, extreme weather conditions will most definitely affect time between charges, and may overall contribute to premature battery depletion.

mommydi · « **Reply #29 on:** Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 12:37:41 »

Quote from: Alan on Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 12:04:54

As I said above, EVs are not for me for numerous reasons, but one I didn't mention is the monopoly on energy I believe we’re being set up for. Electricity prices are crazy right now, but once they convince everyone to use a single form of energy, the prices will skyrocket out of control.

Yes, and much easier to control the masses when we're all dependent on a single form of energy.

Texas Conservative · « **Reply #30 on:** Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 13:00:06 »

Quote from: Alan on Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 12:04:54

Yep, kinda hanging onto that ugly Avalanche styling that had the most useless payload of any truck on the market.

As I said above, EVs are not for me for numerous reasons, but one I didn't mention is the monopoly on energy I believe we’re being set up for. Electricity prices are crazy right now, but once they convince everyone to use a single form of energy, the prices will skyrocket out of control.

I work in the energy industry. On my career side, it is called job security.

Wycliffes_Shillelagh · « **Reply #31 on:** Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 17:17:46 »

Quote from: Alan on Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 12:04:54

As I said above, EVs are not for me for numerous reasons, but one I didn't mention is the monopoly on energy I believe we’re being set up for. Electricity prices are crazy right now, but once they convince everyone to use a single form of energy, the prices will skyrocket out of control.

I don't know about Canada, but in the US...

Electricity (and most utilities) are not usually part of a free market such that supply-and-demand determine the price. Electricity is most often supplied by government-subsidized for-profit corporations. As the infrastructure is funded with muni-bonds, the gov' also regulates them heavily, including setting the prices for electricity, capping the maximum profit the utility company can earn, forcing them to hold a certain amount of liquid assets in reserve, forcing them to hire union workers, and acting as the arbiter with the union.

Jarrod

Alan · « **Reply #32 on:** Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 18:11:07 »

Quote from: Wycliffes_Shillelagh on Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 17:17:46

I don't know about Canada, but in the US...

Electricity (and most utilities) are not usually part of a free market such that supply-and-demand determine the price. Electricity is most often supplied by government-subsidized for-profit corporations. As the infrastructure is funded with muni-bonds, the gov' also regulates them heavily, including setting the prices for electricity, capping the maximum profit the utility company can earn, forcing them to hold a certain amount of liquid assets in reserve, forcing them to hire union workers, and acting as the arbiter with the union.

Jarrod

Yeah, it's much the same here, the utility companies goals and commitments always seem to look to the consumer's best interests, but in reality they gouge us pretty good. Utility companies apply for rate increases as deemed necessary, much to the ire of the consumers. CEOs and upper management in these companies make obscene incomes.

RB · « **Reply #33 on:** Wed Oct 26, 2022 - 03:37:52 »

Quote from: Wycliffes_Shillelagh on Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 17:17:46

I don't know about Canada, but in the US...

Electricity (and most utilities) are not usually part of a free market such that supply-and-demand determine the price. Electricity is most often supplied by government-subsidized for-profit corporations. As the infrastructure is funded with muni-bonds, the gov' also regulates them heavily, including setting the prices for electricity, capping the maximum profit the utility company can earn, forcing them to hold a certain amount of liquid assets in reserve, forcing them to hire union workers, and acting as the arbiter with the union.

Jarrod

Jarrod, you may be correct forcing them to hire union workers, and acting as the arbiter with the union, but that's not the case in the south, where the union has very little, IF ANY power. We are a "right to work state"~now this changing as you cross the mason-dixie line heading up north, especially the northeast~and most major cities EXCEPT in the south. Our utility company locally is a non-profit company and operates much as you have pointed out.

Texas Conservative · « **Reply #34 on:** Wed Oct 26, 2022 - 07:43:18 »

Quote from: Wycliffes_Shillelagh on Tue Oct 25, 2022 - 17:17:46

I don't know about Canada, but in the US...

Electricity (and most utilities) are not usually part of a free market such that supply-and-demand determine the price. Electricity is most often supplied by government-subsidized for-profit corporations. As the infrastructure is funded with muni-bonds, the gov' also regulates them heavily, including setting the prices for electricity, capping the maximum profit the utility company can earn, forcing them to hold a certain amount of liquid assets in reserve, forcing them to hire union workers, and acting as the arbiter with the union.

Jarrod

There are three different major types of electric utilities. Public Owned Utilities (POU), Investor Owned Utilities (IOU), and Co-Ops. Muni bonds would be for POU's, but not IOU's which are most providers.

IOU's are regulated because they are restricted monopolies. Generation of power can happen in regulated or deregulated markets which can make things a bit more complicated.

IOU's typically are allowed a specific rate of return, not a specific amount of profit. Therefore, costs are passed through for projects.

As far as the union stuff, that is not universal.

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