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Re: The Coronavirus: Concerned or not?
« Reply #1 on: Thu Jan 23, 2020 - 06:07:31 »
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« Reply #2 on: Thu Jan 23, 2020 - 07:21:01 »
Not bothering me though they are really having issues in China about it as of morning news.

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Re: The Coronavirus: Concerned or not?
« Reply #3 on: Thu Jan 23, 2020 - 07:31:13 »
I think we'd have a healthier world if Asians stopped eating rats, primates, snakes, and bats.

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Re: The Coronavirus: Concerned or not?
« Reply #4 on: Thu Jan 23, 2020 - 08:06:42 »
It would also help if they would stop eating western foods. ::smile::

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Re: The Coronavirus: Concerned or not?
« Reply #5 on: Thu Jan 23, 2020 - 08:23:27 »
It would also help if they would stop eating western foods. ::smile::

As a western girl, I'll take my quarter pounder with cheese and daylight donuts with accompanying heart disease over their bat soup and monkey brains diet with accompanying mutating viruses and pandemics any day of the week.


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Re: The Coronavirus: Concerned or not?
« Reply #6 on: Thu Jan 23, 2020 - 09:55:57 »
I think we'd have a healthier world if Asians stopped eating rats, primates, snakes, and bats.
More so if they stop drinking BLOOD of certain animals! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O_ytJ_tloA
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As a western girl, I'll take my quarter pounder with cheese and daylight donuts with accompanying heart disease over their bat soup and monkey brains diet with accompanying mutating viruses and pandemics any day of the week.
You sound like Sherry! You deserve to hear this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4AgZST_TG8
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Re: The Coronavirus: Concerned or not?
« Reply #7 on: Mon Jan 27, 2020 - 12:01:19 »
More so if they stop drinking BLOOD of certain animals! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O_ytJ_tloA You sound like Sherry! You deserve to hear this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4AgZST_TG8

RB!!!!!! That first video!  ::puking::

The last few days, I've seen videos of some of the most disgusting food choices EVER - taken in various Asian countries. Eating live rats, live frogs, whole bats in soup, fried cats (fried whole with their head looking right at you), etc. IMO, it's an abomination to eat live animals and no wonder so many nasty pandemics start in Asian countries with wet markets and vile eating choices.
IMO, when people mock and disrespect nature by eating animals while they're alive, nature turns on the humans - God's plan!



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Re: The Coronavirus: Concerned or not?
« Reply #8 on: Mon Jan 27, 2020 - 12:46:39 »
RB!!!!!! That first video!  ::puking::

The last few days, I've seen videos of some of the most disgusting food choices EVER - taken in various Asian countries. Eating live rats, live frogs, whole bats in soup, fried cats (fried whole with their head looking right at you), etc. IMO, it's an abomination to eat live animals and no wonder so many nasty pandemics start in Asian countries with wet markets and vile eating choices.
IMO, when people mock and disrespect nature by eating animals while they're alive, nature turns on the humans - God's plan!

Absolutely correct, mommydi +1.

I heard 2 or 3 days ago that this started from bats or snakes from a live farm. Which I assume is a supplier to people wanting these live foods.

I also read that young pigs were infected by bats and who knows how many pigs were eaten...

I also heard Hong Kong has declared a state of emergency

Hong Kong’s government has put the territory on the highest state of emergency in response to the outbreak of coronavirus in mainland China. Schools will remain closed until Feb. 17, long after the Chinese New Year holidays, which begin today, should have finished.

https://variety.com/2020/biz/asia/hong-kong-declares-emergency-coronavirus-response-1203479971/


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Re: The Coronavirus: Concerned or not?
« Reply #9 on: Mon Jan 27, 2020 - 13:57:06 »
Absolutely correct, mommydi +1.

I heard 2 or 3 days ago that this started from bats or snakes from a live farm. Which I assume is a supplier to people wanting these live foods.

I also read that young pigs were infected by bats and who knows how many pigs were eaten...

I also heard Hong Kong has declared a state of emergency

Hong Kong’s government has put the territory on the highest state of emergency in response to the outbreak of coronavirus in mainland China. Schools will remain closed until Feb. 17, long after the Chinese New Year holidays, which begin today, should have finished.

https://variety.com/2020/biz/asia/hong-kong-declares-emergency-coronavirus-response-1203479971/

Rella, whether this turns into some kind of deadly pandemic or fizzles out, we need to go ahead and work on our immune system. I'm always low on Vitamin D. Just took a dose and now sitting outside on this beautiful 67 degree sunny day and trying to get some D that way, too.

Tomorrow is freezing rain - so got to get sun it when I can!




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Re: The Coronavirus: Concerned or not?
« Reply #10 on: Mon Jan 27, 2020 - 18:30:16 »
Rella, whether this turns into some kind of deadly pandemic or fizzles out, we need to go ahead and work on our immune system. I'm always low on Vitamin D. Just took a dose and now sitting outside on this beautiful 67 degree sunny day and trying to get some D that way, too.

Tomorrow is freezing rain - so got to get sun it when I can!

I do do Vit D daily.  In fact, last year doc took mom of he D supplement cause it had gotten too high and told her not to supplement.

I cant sit in the sun. I burn and using sun block if I am in it too long, it simply drains me of all energy.  But my D levels are good.

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Re: The Coronavirus: Concerned or not?
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Re: The Coronavirus: Concerned or not?
« Reply #13 on: Tue Jan 28, 2020 - 11:33:04 »
Should you be worried?

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Re: The Coronavirus: Concerned or not?
« Reply #15 on: Tue Jan 28, 2020 - 14:55:28 »
5 confirmed cases in the US.

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Re: The Coronavirus: Concerned or not?
« Reply #16 on: Wed Jan 29, 2020 - 10:52:06 »
I just watched a live news conference with my state's health department people. Interesting.

Of course they downplayed all of it, and were reassuring- I guess to avoid panic.

They did give instructions on how to isolate someone in your home who is ill - dedicating a specific room for them that is regularly disinfected, etc, but how many people will actually do that? Every year, the regular flu spreads all over the place because people refuse to isolate themselves while ill.

They did say the best defense against this is a strong immune system. I'm not freaking out about this virus at all, but I am working on building my immune system and encouraging family members to do the same.

Plenty of rest
Less stress
Sunshine if possible
Fresh air
Gentle exercise
No sugar
Vitamin C
Vitamin D3 and K2

Also reviewing thorough hand washing practices and avoiding touching the face. There's nothing like being told to avoid touching your face to make you need to touch your face!
I'm also diffusing thieves oil in my home. I'm not sure if it actually disinfects the air as touted, but smells good anyway.


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Re: The Coronavirus: Concerned or not?
« Reply #17 on: Sat Feb 01, 2020 - 08:04:51 »
Big deal or not?

Thoughts?


Look at this-
https://twitter.com/TruthRaiderHQ/status/1220033745094414339

Has it occurred to anyone that this issue may have been contrived?

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Re: The Coronavirus: Concerned or not?
« Reply #18 on: Sat Feb 01, 2020 - 08:10:10 »
I heard it was contrived in a biological weapons lab in China. And it got out of the lab somehow.

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Re: The Coronavirus: Concerned or not?
« Reply #19 on: Fri Feb 14, 2020 - 10:54:33 »
IMO, this is looking more and more like the Chinese government is using this virus as a cover to commit genocide on Christians, Muslims, anti-communist protestors, and just an abundance of men in general. I've seen too many videos now of perfectly healthy looking individuals wrestled to the ground and hauled off. So all of the sudden, the videos we see go from dead virus victims lying in the streets to healthy individuals being wrestled to the ground and hauled off. Some of these supposed flu victims appear to have super human strength if it takes four grown men to wrestle them to the ground.
They're thinning the heard - getting rid of dissidents, and blaming it on the flu.

Socialism/Communism playing out in front of us.


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Re: The Coronavirus: Concerned or not?
« Reply #20 on: Fri Feb 14, 2020 - 11:24:42 »
IMO, this is looking more and more like the Chinese government is using this virus as a cover to commit genocide on Christians, Muslims, anti-communist protestors, and just an abundance of men in general. I've seen too many videos now of perfectly healthy looking individuals wrestled to the ground and hauled off. So all of the sudden, the videos we see go from dead virus victims lying in the streets to healthy individuals being wrestled to the ground and hauled off. Some of these supposed flu victims appear to have super human strength if it takes four grown men to wrestle them to the ground.
They're thinning the heard - getting rid of dissidents, and blaming it on the flu.

Socialism/Communism playing out in front of us.

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Re: The Coronavirus: Concerned or not?
« Reply #21 on: Sat Feb 15, 2020 - 00:56:14 »
The vast, vast majority of reported cases are in China.  What we know for sure about those cases is that we can't trust the "official" reports.  I doubt there's a way to know what's really going on.

There is a corona virus research facility near the Wuhan outbreak epicenter.  No way to know if that's really the source.

Rumors it came from an icky "wet market" where their weirdo culture sells things like bats for food.  Rumors the exotic mammal the pangolin is a vector.  Who knows?

There are reports from China that health workers are being infected in spite of wearing protective clothing.  Are they true?  How can that happen -- Are they wearing wrong-quality masks, or are the virus particles fantastically tiny and able to pass through or what?

Experts are uncertain whether COVID19 (the new official name) can even be transmitted "airborne" through aerosolized sneeze or cough droplets lingering in the air in the first place.

There is evidence COVID19 can be found in fecal matter from infected persons, but it's unclear whether this can be a source of transmission.

A report from a hotel or apartment in Hong Kong suggests the virus can be transmitted through plumbing, as was also true of SARS (another in the corona virus family).

It is unclear how infectious COVID19 is.  Infectiousness is measured by "R0" (usually pronounced "R-nought").  Flu typically has an R0 of about 1.3, meaning each person infected with flu will on average infect 1.3 other people.  SARS has an R0 somewhat less than 1.  Same with MERS.  There is some consensus that COVID19 has R0 of about 2.2 or 2.3, but no one really knows; estimates range from less than 1 to something like 4.75.

Mortality rate is uncertain.  So far, all reported deaths have been in China, and their reporting is unreliable.  Based on their dubious numbers, mortality is about 2% or 1 in 50.  That is higher than flu (I can't find good numbers for flu) but lower than SARS (1 in 10) or MERS (maybe over 1 in 3).

It is uncertain whether the virus can be transmitted to and from pets.  (This Newsweek article makes the silly recommendation that, just on general principles, people should wash their hands thoroughly for at least 20 seconds after handling pets.  If it were determined that such practice were really important, no one would ever again own pets.  Hell, I sleep with my cat, with her face right next to mine!  The same article insists we wash our hands thoroughly for 20 seconds any time we blow our noses, and *immediately* throw away the tissue; and that we always cough into a tissue or our elbow.  I have allergies, which includes chronic cough.  I cover my cough when I'm around humans.  If I coughed into my elbow literally *every* time I cough, I'd need shoulder surgery.  I'd have to convert one room of my house into storage for kleenex boxes, and another into a giant incinerator to dispose of used ones, and I'd need to take out a loan to pay the water bill for all the hand-washing, and to pay for skin grafts on my hands.)

This article talks about an interesting experimental approach.  But since it's happening in China, I have no confidence the results will be trustworthy.

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Re: The Coronavirus: Concerned or not?
« Reply #22 on: Sat Feb 15, 2020 - 08:52:27 »
Vial of COVID19 being sent to Pitt for research.

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« Reply #23 on: Sat Feb 15, 2020 - 10:52:01 »
The vast, vast majority of reported cases are in China.  What we know for sure about those cases is that we can't trust the "official" reports.  I doubt there's a way to know what's really going on.


Right. I also don't trust any videos I see coming from China. Truth? Propaganda? Who knows? People need to keep in mind that these little videos we're seeing on various social media sites are mostly being pulled from Tik Tok.
Keep in mind what Tik Tok is and who owns it-

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Wki: TikTok is a video-sharing social networking service owned by ByteDance, a Beijing-based company founded in 2012 by Zhang Yiming. It is used to create short lip-sync, comedy, and talent videos. The app was launched in 2017 for iOS and Android for markets outside of China.
So communist China owns and controls Tik Tok and the videos we're seeing.

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It is uncertain whether the virus can be transmitted to and from pets.  (This Newsweek article makes the silly recommendation that, just on general principles, people should wash their hands thoroughly for at least 20 seconds after handling pets.  If it were determined that such practice were really important, no one would ever again own pets.  Hell, I sleep with my cat, with her face right next to mine!
Yep, I slept with my little doggie until she passed away in December. Now I borrow my grand-doggie for several days at a time to fill that empty space in my life, I guess. In fact, I borrowed her last Friday and kept her until Wednesday. I can't imagine not being able to cuddle with her for fear of contracting a fatal virus.

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Re: The Coronavirus: Concerned or not?
« Reply #24 on: Sun Feb 16, 2020 - 12:36:27 »
If not, why not?

Coronavirus: Pangolins may have spread the disease to humans

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/coronavirus-pangolins-may-have-spread-the-disease-to-humans

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Re: The Coronavirus: Concerned or not?
« Reply #25 on: Sun Feb 16, 2020 - 19:31:39 »
Sen. Cotton was interviewed on FNC Sunday morning.  He said it's certain the virus did not originate at the wet market, even though that market may have contributed to its spread.  He hinted it may have come from the nearby virus research lab, but did not come right out and say it.

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Re: The Coronavirus: Concerned or not?
« Reply #26 on: Fri Feb 21, 2020 - 12:22:32 »
Start prepping .China who are East Asians have one of the highest IQs in the world, and then they shuts down there economy . Welding up doors in apartments and have released internet control police to say nothing wrong here. Worry a lot. The Lord told me this is his plan ? and I am going to see some horrible things. Japan held a controlled ship of 3000 and then 600 got infected . Good on keeping them indoors. Doesn't work.  Chinese doctors who have full suits get infected. South Korea church gets infected. Jesus not saving now. It’s his plan He has told me this now twice .

Corona virus has a crown and has a bow. International travel. Plaque is one of the horse man ...not sure about that...but yes I have been buying food for 7 weeks and then I look and it’s not enough. China is welding doors shut and stopping travel. When do each firm stop working because they can’t get parts anymore for there machines.society collapses. People,starve.  Its big guys and girls my brothers and sisters in the Lord. Buy Food water and stuff to keep you safe or hunt for food. The Lord told me it’s started . What’s is that?  When he speaks like this ....then I just started to buy food and other crazy stuff . I don’t really know my brothers and sisters. The Lord speaks to us when we need to harvest for the lean years. Prep now my brothers and sisters in the Lord . We will meet again. I love you all. If it’s fake news . You just eat it tomorrow. Big bags of rice and sauce mixes.peace out


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Re: The Coronavirus: Concerned or not?
« Reply #27 on: Fri Feb 21, 2020 - 16:44:30 »
Add this to the thoughts and the conspiracy theories.....

I see this as a prophesied plague, with mans involvement.

http://82.221.129.208/.vs0.html

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Re: The Coronavirus: Concerned or not?
« Reply #28 on: Sun Feb 23, 2020 - 02:54:08 »
On The most probable on how it started and why.

https://youtu.be/lxEFL5KC9Xc

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Re: The Coronavirus: Concerned or not?
« Reply #30 on: Mon Feb 24, 2020 - 04:38:10 »
I lean away from Dispensational Eschatology, so I don't see it as a "prophesied" plague.

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« Reply #31 on: Mon Feb 24, 2020 - 04:41:01 »
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They did say the best defense against this is a strong immune system. I'm not freaking out about this virus at all, but I am working on building my immune system and encouraging family members to do the same.

Plenty of rest
Less stress
Sunshine if possible
Fresh air
Gentle exercise
No sugar
Vitamin C
Vitamin D3 and K2
...


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Re: The Coronavirus: Concerned or not?
« Reply #32 on: Mon Feb 24, 2020 - 07:53:11 »
Start prepping .China who are East Asians have one of the highest IQs in the world, and then they shuts down there economy . Welding up doors in apartments and have released internet control police to say nothing wrong here. Worry a lot. The Lord told me this is his plan ? and I am going to see some horrible things. Japan held a controlled ship of 3000 and then 600 got infected . Good on keeping them indoors. Doesn't work.  Chinese doctors who have full suits get infected. South Korea church gets infected. Jesus not saving now. It’s his plan He has told me this now twice .

Corona virus has a crown and has a bow. International travel. Plaque is one of the horse man ...not sure about that...but yes I have been buying food for 7 weeks and then I look and it’s not enough. China is welding doors shut and stopping travel. When do each firm stop working because they can’t get parts anymore for there machines.society collapses. People,starve.  Its big guys and girls my brothers and sisters in the Lord. Buy Food water and stuff to keep you safe or hunt for food. The Lord told me it’s started . What’s is that?  When he speaks like this ....then I just started to buy food and other crazy stuff . I don’t really know my brothers and sisters. The Lord speaks to us when we need to harvest for the lean years. Prep now my brothers and sisters in the Lord . We will meet again. I love you all. If it’s fake news . You just eat it tomorrow. Big bags of rice and sauce mixes.peace out

Doesn't this go against Jesus warnings about not being concerned for tomorrow and trusting Him for each day?

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« Reply #33 on: Mon Feb 24, 2020 - 11:04:50 »
Doesn't this go against Jesus warnings about not being concerned for tomorrow and trusting Him for each day?
Did Jospeh prep. 7 full 7 lean. Trusting in him really,  is when we die we know we Will be with him and those whom Christ chose. That’s a given . So if we live for 70 years or die young ...it doesn’t  really matter. We all will die. But how we die is the key. Christians who trusted in him was feed to lions and burnt as candles on sticks covered in tar.

Maybe God is telling us to prep. Is not that action faith?

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« Reply #34 on: Mon Feb 24, 2020 - 11:10:30 »
Did Jospeh prep. 7 full 7 lean. Trusting in him really,  is when we die we know we Will be with him and those whom Christ chose. That’s a given . So if we live for 70 years or die young ...it doesn’t  really matter. We all will die. But how we die is the key. Christians who trusted in him was feed to lions and burnt as candles on sticks covered in tar.

Maybe God is telling us to prep. Is not that action faith?

Love you my sister

Do you think we may need to trust that he will protect us from this, as in psalm 91?