Author Topic: Why are many if not most professing Christians still slaves to sins? (Read 2850 times)

Catalyst · « **Reply #45 on:** July 22, 2012, 08:54:10 PM »

Why am I the nasty one? I'm not the person running around judging others for abbreviations, and generally posturing as if I were the holy of holies, plus evading questions, blah blah blah.

I'm only nasty because you just made a fool of yourself, and now try to deflect your shame back at me. I don't inow who you have fooled around here, but the characteristicts iin the psych diagnostical literature, suggest you are more npd than Xian.

Quote from: Lively Stone on July 22, 2012, 06:23:01 PM

Quote from: Catalyst on July 22, 2012, 02:29:14 PM
Quote from: Lively Stone on July 21, 2012, 03:52:05 PM
Why anyone who is a Christian would use 'Xian' and expect to be taken seriously...

Because they would have more education than your bigotted comment shows you have.

IXOYE was a sign that spelled fish, usually drawn with a fish made of two arcs around it. You probably only know it as a catchy bumpersticker. The I is Jesus name. The X is Jesus title, The O is GOD, the Y is for being God's Son, the E is for being SAVIOR.
It stands for Jesus Christ, God son savior.

The people that used that sign, died horrific martyred deaths.

Your blatantly, pick at someone to show how holy you are, and out of ignorance, just insulted every martyr that died to build the church you so ingraciously denigrate by claiming to be a member of.

THE X has been used for Christ since Christ had died. It's a symbol of Christ. It's as much a symbol of Christ as your "holy cross" is around your neck.

Nice to show your self righteous colors.

Nasty person! You are not about to be martyred, so stop with the silly rationalizations for using the lazy, 'X'.

I hate it when I see it and so do many others. It just shows a lack of reverence for Jesus Christ. Isn't He worth writing out the full name for? He doesn't use a short form for yours.

Christian Forums and Message Board · « **Reply #45 on:** July 22, 2012, 08:54:10 PM »

Lively Stone · « **Reply #46 on:** July 22, 2012, 09:01:19 PM »

Quote from: Catalyst on July 22, 2012, 08:54:10 PM

Why am I the nasty one? I'm not the person running around judging others for abbreviations, and generally posturing as if I were the holy of holies, plus evading questions, blah blah blah.

Calling people bigots is nasty. In all my straight talk, I wouldn't cross that line.

Using the 'X' tells me that either someone doesn't have reverence for Jesus Christ, or is lazy in their typing, or is an unbeliever masking as a believer.

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I'm only nasty because you just made a fool of yourself, and now try to deflect your shame back at me. I don't inow who you have fooled around here, but the characteristicts iin the psych diagnostical literature, suggest you are more npd than Xian.

I am glad you admit you are nasty. Now, blaming others for it is not appropriate.

Christian Forums and Message Board · « **Reply #46 on:** July 22, 2012, 09:01:19 PM »

Catalyst · « **Reply #47 on:** July 22, 2012, 09:09:52 PM »

Oh sheesh! Just saw, Xian is a lack of reverance? So, if I type it in english, not Greek is that worse? Or in His home, mamma called him Joshua, to translate the aramaic to English, so Jesus isn't even the right transliteration for His name. Christ His title, is not what it was called in His life, so aren't we irreverant now using a DIFFERENT LANGUAGE/ where does the line stop, oh holy one? The Jews, if they accepted Christ as the messiah, errr mosiach, errrr..... they wouldn't even say His name, not anymore than they will say G_d.

So as you point the finger at me, and stick your chest out like a transgendered arnold schwarzenager, why don't you go read chapter two of colossians, and see what the most zealous APOSTLE HAD TO SAY about rules man makes up to keep himself looking holy. Even the Rabbis of today aren't so pharisitical as your rude, and presumptuous faux pleasant personality makes you appear to be.

Now, you have a choice. You can back off of your game, because I'm gonna call you out, over and over, and eventually even your allies will see your behavior for what it is, or you can stop talking ATme and talk with me, as if you were an adult, and we can both learn something. But, at least, for a while, you would have a steep learning curve.

You dismissed that you poo pooed the martyers for for being caught typing X for Christ, and tried to misdirect, errrrrrr LIE, and assert that I was claiming martyrdom. You are to proud to learn sometning, so you had to attempt to justify your commments.

I want a poll.... how many thought she wasn't trying to deflect herself being caught disrespecting the martyrs off on me by saying I was trying to claim martyrdom?

You remind me of SNL's "The Church Lady".

Catalyst · « **Reply #48 on:** July 22, 2012, 09:16:34 PM »

NO, BEING A BIGOT IS BEING NASTY, BEING CAUGHT AT FULFILLING EVERY LINE IN ANY DICTIONARY'S DEFINITIO, AND BEING EXPOSED FOR IT IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT PAUL DID TO peter in Galatians.

You are more concerned with someone being called how they are behaving, than you are your allies misbehavior. Do you think you are fooling God?

Lazy? I type 120 wpm. Its not lazy, its called not being an idolater.

And deflection like that is just one of the prime characteristics of NPD. Listen sister, I'm not going away, you can chill, or I will match my tone to yours, minus the self righteousness til we are expelled, or you leave in tears from facing the honesty I'm going to pour down upon you.

I don't care, this is my 4th or 5th request to get you to step back, grow up, and speak like an adult if you wish to talk with the ggrown ups.

Quote from: Lively Stone on July 22, 2012, 09:01:19 PM

Calling people bigots is nasty. In all my straight talk, I wouldn't cross that line.

Using the 'X' tells me that either someone doesn't have reverence for Jesus Christ, or is lazy in their typing, or is an unbeliever masking as a believer.

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I'm only nasty because you just made a fool of yourself, and now try to deflect your shame back at me. I don't inow who you have fooled around here, but the characteristicts iin the psych diagnostical literature, suggest you are more npd than Xian.

I am glad you admit you are nasty. Now, blaming others for it is not appropriate.

Christian Forums and Message Board · « **Reply #48 on:** July 22, 2012, 09:16:34 PM »

Bitter Sweet · « **Reply #49 on:** July 22, 2012, 09:21:25 PM »

Quote from: Catalyst on July 22, 2012, 04:36:27 PM

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Why, you don't agree with lively, you aren't a true "believer" at all!!

Maybe she has a point, I should just stop listening to my husband who's ancestors built one of Paul's first churches in his village (from the pic) and then start church hopping the way I've been accused of doing until I find one she approves of. That way I can kill 2 birds with 1 stone. And be one of those professing Christians that is still a slave to sin.

Ephesians 4:14 Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of people in their deceitful scheming.

Ephesians 5:22 Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

Christian Forums and Message Board · « **Reply #49 on:** July 22, 2012, 09:21:25 PM »

Catalyst · « **Reply #50 on:** July 22, 2012, 09:22:27 PM »

Quote from: Lively Stone on July 22, 2012, 06:27:11 PM

Quote from: Bitter Sweet on July 22, 2012, 02:58:15 PM

Just wanted to add that the X means chrst which means cross. To be a Christian in the Orthodox sense means a person that crosses him or herself. I remember being told to prichrsti myself which meant to do the father son and holy ghost thing with my fingers on my forehead shoulders and center.

Nonsense. Christ means, "Anointed One". Crossing oneself is just a religious affectation.

For anyone that can read, they are embarrassed for you. Xian does mean little Christ, and Christ does mean Christos, Where we get CHRISTENED from in the Greek, which is what annointing is.

Christ, and Christian, however are not the same words. Anyone who had read the post would see the curious addition of a suffix there, and a wise person, if they didn't know for sure would type www.dictionary.com and learned what the word meant with that suffix.

Why don't you try less to know it all, and put that much energy into learning about what you don't know, and you may get along with more folks.

Catalyst · « **Reply #51 on:** July 22, 2012, 09:26:00 PM »

And if you judge my faith one more time, you will rue the day you met me chickie. Grow up, stop making a fool of yourself, stop posturing as if you filled in for God when He takes a vacation, and sit back and talk WITH not AT people.

Ivw never seen a living or lively stone. But if its alive, it must have a brain. So, I'm thinking your name is a metaphor for dumb as a rock?

Quote from: Lively Stone on July 22, 2012, 09:01:19 PM

Quote from: Catalyst on July 22, 2012, 08:54:10 PM
Why am I the nasty one? I'm not the person running around judging others for abbreviations, and generally posturing as if I were the holy of holies, plus evading questions, blah blah blah.

Calling people bigots is nasty. In all my straight talk, I wouldn't cross that line.

Using the 'X' tells me that either someone doesn't have reverence for Jesus Christ, or is lazy in their typing, or is an unbeliever masking as a believer.

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I'm only nasty because you just made a fool of yourself, and now try to deflect your shame back at me. I don't inow who you have fooled around here, but the characteristicts iin the psych diagnostical literature, suggest you are more npd than Xian.

I am glad you admit you are nasty. Now, blaming others for it is not appropriate.

Bitter Sweet · « **Reply #52 on:** July 22, 2012, 09:37:05 PM »

Quote from: Catalyst on July 22, 2012, 09:22:27 PM

Quote from: Lively Stone on July 22, 2012, 06:27:11 PM
Quote from: Bitter Sweet on July 22, 2012, 02:58:15 PM

Just wanted to add that the X means chrst which means cross. To be a Christian in the Orthodox sense means a person that crosses him or herself. I remember being told to prichrsti myself which meant to do the father son and holy ghost thing with my fingers on my forehead shoulders and center.

Nonsense. Christ means, "Anointed One". Crossing oneself is just a religious affectation.

For anyone that can read, they are embarrassed for you. Xian does mean little Christ, and Christ does mean Christos, Where we get CHRISTENED from in the Greek, which is what annointing is.

Christ, and Christian, however are not the same words. Anyone who had read the post would see the curious addition of a suffix there, and a wise person, if they didn't know for sure would type www.dictionary.com and learned what the word meant with that suffix.

Why don't you try less to know it all, and put that much energy into learning about what you don't know, and you may get along with more folks.

I just found this blog that say's Christian means slaves.

http://mysticbelieverpriest.blogspot.com/2007/12/little-christ-hogwash.html

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The "Little Christ" Hogwash
I don’t know whether anyone’s tried to tell you that the word “Christian” means “Little Christ.” I’ve heard this from several. Several of the pastors who have tried to set me straight about our objective as Christians. Our objective to be like Christ.

But it is apparently false. This understanding of the word Christian is apparently false.

Having no idea myself, I looked it up this evening in one of Zondervan’s Understanding the Bible reference series: Zondervan’s Bible Dictionary.

It says that the word Christian is derived from the Greek, Christianos. Further it says, “The Latin termination –ianos, widely used throughout the [Roman] empire, often designated the slaves of the one with whose name it was compounded.”

“Slaves,” not “children” or “followers” or “friends” or “companions” or “colleagues” or “brothers.”

“Slaves.”

Lively Stone · « **Reply #53 on:** July 22, 2012, 10:33:05 PM »

Quote from: Catalyst on July 22, 2012, 09:09:52 PM

Now, you have a choice. You can back off of your game, because I'm gonna call you out, over and over, and eventually even your allies will see your behavior for what it is, or you can stop talking ATme and talk with me, as if you were an adult, and we can both learn something. But, at least, for a while, you would have a steep learning curve.

Take a little of your own advice, newbie.

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You dismissed that you poo pooed the martyers for for being caught typing X for Christ, and tried to misdirect, errrrrrr LIE, and assert that I was claiming martyrdom. You are to proud to learn sometning, so you had to attempt to justify your commments.

Nah...you were rationalizing the use of 'X'.

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I want a poll.... how many thought she wasn't trying to deflect herself being caught disrespecting the martyrs off on me by saying I was trying to claim martyrdom?

You remind me of SNL's "The Church Lady".

Start a thread if you want.

Lively Stone · « **Reply #54 on:** July 22, 2012, 10:36:53 PM »

'Christian' means, 'little Christ' or 'follower of Christ'. If one wants to consider that being a slave to Christ, that is also Biblical.

Lively Stone · « **Reply #55 on:** July 22, 2012, 10:39:18 PM »

Quote from: Catalyst on July 22, 2012, 09:16:34 PM

NO, BEING A BIGOT IS BEING NASTY, BEING CAUGHT AT FULFILLING EVERY LINE IN ANY DICTIONARY'S DEFINITIO, AND BEING EXPOSED FOR IT IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT PAUL DID TO peter in Galatians.

You are more concerned with someone being called how they are behaving, than you are your allies misbehavior. Do you think you are fooling God?

Lazy? I type 120 wpm. Its not lazy, its called not being an idolater.

And deflection like that is just one of the prime characteristics of NPD. Listen sister, I'm not going away, you can chill, or I will match my tone to yours, minus the self righteousness til we are expelled, or you leave in tears from facing the honesty I'm going to pour down upon you.

I don't care, this is my 4th or 5th request to get you to step back, grow up, and speak like an adult if you wish to talk with the ggrown ups.

You can spew all you like, but I am not going to be expelled. You need to tone it down some, though, and stop with the schoolyard-like threats.

Lively Stone · « **Reply #56 on:** July 22, 2012, 10:42:11 PM »

Quote from: Catalyst on July 22, 2012, 09:22:27 PM

Quote from: Lively Stone on July 22, 2012, 06:27:11 PM
Quote from: Bitter Sweet on July 22, 2012, 02:58:15 PM

Just wanted to add that the X means chrst which means cross. To be a Christian in the Orthodox sense means a person that crosses him or herself. I remember being told to prichrsti myself which meant to do the father son and holy ghost thing with my fingers on my forehead shoulders and center.

Nonsense. Christ means, "Anointed One". Crossing oneself is just a religious affectation.

For anyone that can read, they are embarrassed for you. Xian does mean little Christ, and Christ does mean Christos, Where we get CHRISTENED from in the Greek, which is what annointing is.

Christ, and Christian, however are not the same words. Anyone who had read the post would see the curious addition of a suffix there, and a wise person, if they didn't know for sure would type www.dictionary.com and learned what the word meant with that suffix.

Why don't you try less to know it all, and put that much energy into learning about what you don't know, and you may get along with more folks.

What are you arguing about?

Lively Stone · « **Reply #57 on:** July 22, 2012, 10:47:34 PM »

Quote from: Catalyst on July 22, 2012, 09:26:00 PM

And if you judge my faith one more time, you will rue the day you met me chickie. Grow up, stop making a fool of yourself, stop posturing as if you filled in for God when He takes a vacation, and sit back and talk WITH not AT people.

Ivw never seen a living or lively stone. But if its alive, it must have a brain. So, I'm thinking your name is a metaphor for dumb as a rock?

You are extremely combative. Why is that? Your salvos are like A-bombs against a mosquito.

I haven't judged your faith. I am questioning why you insist on 'X'. You have given your reasons. Fine. It isn't worth getting all red in the face about, now, is it?

Calling people names in this forum is a violation and reportable. Now you do as you suggest: grow up, and stop offending people.

chosenone · « **Reply #58 on:** July 22, 2012, 11:32:21 PM »

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