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WHO IS THE PERSON TO ENTER THE BODY OF CHRIST - FIRST ??
« on: Wed Aug 22, 2018 - 17:46:59 »
  Hi to all  and who was the first    SAVED  person to enter the  Body of Christ .as was written in  Acts 16:4   , Acts 9:6  , Rom 10:9 ,  10 and  1 Cor 12:3  is why I say it is  Paul  !!

I say it was Paul , so what say you ??

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« Reply #1 on: Wed Aug 22, 2018 - 18:36:28 »
Not sure post text with the reference so I can read it to see what you are saying

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« Reply #2 on: Wed Aug 22, 2018 - 19:28:43 »
   Hi and they are the references that I will use to prove that the first person to enter the  Body of Christ is Paul !!

 #1 , Acts 16:14  ,  God opens the  heart !!

 #2 , Acts 9:6  , the  KEY  wors is  LORD !!

 #3.  No one calls  Jesus Lord    EXCEPT  by the  Holy  Spirit  !!

 #4 , Rom 10:9  Key word is  LORD !!

 #5 Rom 10:10   with the  HEART HE  believes to  Righteousness !!

 That is salvation and the  PATTERN  of  1 Tim 1:16  !!

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« Reply #3 on: Wed Aug 22, 2018 - 19:32:57 »
I am not going to take the time to look up the verses if you are no going to take the time to post them so you are wasting our time

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« Reply #4 on: Wed Aug 22, 2018 - 19:39:07 »
I guess he missed Acts 2  LOL

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« Reply #5 on: Wed Aug 22, 2018 - 19:47:18 »
yes his line up is not looking to promising but I am waiting for him to post the text to the verses so I can better understand his point

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« Reply #6 on: Wed Aug 22, 2018 - 20:00:45 »
  Hi and what verse did I miss in Acts 2  ??

I have to go , see you tomorrow !!

 Just where is the  Body of Christ  mentioned in Acts  2 ??

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« Reply #7 on: Wed Aug 22, 2018 - 20:08:31 »
seriously??? is that not when the doors to the kingdom opened????

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« Reply #8 on: Wed Aug 22, 2018 - 20:23:51 »
I guess he missed Acts 2  LOL

He didn't get the memo that only Acts 2 matters.   rofl

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« Reply #9 on: Thu Aug 23, 2018 - 03:15:31 »
Hi to all  and who was the first    SAVED  person to enter the  Body of Christ .as was written in  Acts 16:4   , Acts 9:6  , Rom 10:9 ,  10 and  1 Cor 12:3  is why I say it is  Paul  !!

I say it was Paul , so what say you ??

 dan p
We all enter into Christ at the SAME TIME as far as God is concerned. We enter INTO Christ by God's election of grace!
Quote from: Paul
Ehesians 1:4~"According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:"
But that being true, some do enter into Christ by water baptism in time when we believe~
Quote from: Paul
Romans 16:7~"Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellowprisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me."
So you are wrong.... others were in Christ before Paul in a practical sense. Yet all were in Christ before the foundation of the world, or from eternity past by God's election of grace. In time and at baptism, we give God an answer of the good conscience that he has given to us in regeneration by confessing Jesus Christ to be the Son of God with a commitment to follow his teachings by being baptized into HIS RELIGION/TEACHINGS/FAITH and identifying ourselves with those who believe the same, with a commitment to love them even as Christ so loved us.
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« Reply #10 on: Thu Aug 23, 2018 - 12:20:43 »
   Hi yogi bear , where is verse that proves that ??

 Is the  Kingdom the  Body of Christ , and where does it say that ??

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« Reply #11 on: Thu Aug 23, 2018 - 12:28:48 »
 Hi and where did the  12  apostles   EVER   TEACH   any thing about the  Body of Christ  ??

 Here is prove that  Paul  taught  , in  Rom 12:5  and 1  Cor 12:13  , and  Eph 2:14-16  , and  1 Cor 12:27  ,  and  Eph 4:12  and  Rom 7:4  !!

Now show where Peter in Acts    EVER   taught any thing about the  Body of Christ  ??

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« Reply #12 on: Thu Aug 23, 2018 - 14:03:15 »
Dan you are delusional .  None of the proof text in the OP have anything to do with Paul being the first to enter the body (church) of Christ.  That happened on Pentecost with the guy that was given the keys.

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« Reply #13 on: Thu Aug 23, 2018 - 17:18:56 »
  Hi and when was that  guy given the KEYS   to the  Kingdom  in Acts 2  ?

 Are you pointing to  Matt 16:18  ??

And if these are the Keys given to  Peter , will you    explain why the   Greek word    I  WILL  BUILD / OIKODOMEO   is in the  Greek   FUTURE  TENSE  ??

 Then , what does verse 19  , what does  Peter   BIND  and  LOOSE   mean ??

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« Reply #14 on: Thu Aug 23, 2018 - 18:22:38 »
The passage in both Greek and English is clear
15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

You are seeing codes and meanings that do not even resemble the simple word of God I will waste no more time here.
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« Reply #15 on: Fri Aug 24, 2018 - 19:54:17 »
  Hi and sorry that you feel that way and Matt 16:18 is about Peter and we know from Acts 21:20 that , that the Jews were all    ZEALOUS OF THE   LAW  OF  MOSES , and seem to be blending Jews and  GENTILES  together !!

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« Reply #16 on: Wed Oct 03, 2018 - 14:12:38 »
That Paul was the first member of the Body of Christ is a doctrine of Mid-Acts Dispensationalism, also known as Hyper-Dispensationalism, or Full Dispensationalism.

The reasoning behind this is that Paul first referred to the Body of Christ.

This teaching is not consistent.   First it is claimed that the Body includes the Gentiles who have believed in Christ as have the remnant Jews, but it is not accepted that the Body is now under the New Covenant.   The New Covenant is claimed to be for Israel with Christ reigning over Israel.    Only Paul's epistles apply to the Church/the Body; all other NT Scripture is directed toward Israel.   

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« Reply #17 on: Wed Oct 03, 2018 - 14:20:09 »
  Hi and sorry that you feel that way and Matt 16:18 is about Peter and we know from Acts 21:20 that , that the Jews were all    ZEALOUS OF THE   LAW  OF  MOSES , and seem to be blending Jews and  GENTILES  together !!

 dan p

First of all, Peter was called to the Gentiles before Paul was called.   Read Acts Chapter 15.

The early church were Jews.   They resisted repentance and were comfortable under Moses.  That's what they knew.  That was their brand.    The Book of Acts reveals a Jewish church which gradually repented and came under the authority of Jesus Christ.   Paul's missionary travels did not begin until 17 years after he was called by Jesus.  The Law's hold on the church increased during that time. The Jews insisted that Greek proselytes be baptized and the men be circumcised as was demanded under Moses.   Read Galatians 2:11.  Paul called Peter a hypocrite for allowing the leaders of the Jerusalem church to put demands of the Law upon Greek/Gentile converts.   

 

     
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