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Grace Church
« on: June 28, 2010, 04:01:11 PM »
 ::amen!::

I belong to a none denomination Grace church.

This is my first post, I do not see any  faith close to mine.

   2 Tim 2:15  Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
       


We believe the bible  is to for every one , but not to every one !

There is a time Past ~  But Now ~  And ages to come.
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God
Not of works, lest any man should boast.

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Re: Grace Church
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2010, 05:23:29 PM »
Tell us more-I like the name of your church! I too am a non-denominational Christian. Through the years I have found that there are are like minded brethren who choose to gather around Christ -not a religious social club. Such believers are often blessed with fine expository bible teaching, fervent evangelism and rich spiritual fellowship. The religion clubs (denominations) often wind up denying Biblical inerrancy, becoming increasingly political and focused on the temporal instead of what is eternal. But even us non-denominational believers are not without our faults and we can't deny that God blesses and uses believers in the denominations-many of them are our brethren too and deserve our prayers and encouragement.
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Re: Grace Church
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2010, 07:42:55 PM »
Hello davidmac,

You say,

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Tell us more-I like the name of your church!   

Our full name is.   Grace Bible Church.

We belive in   "Time Past"  Ephesians 2:11,12
"But Now" Ephesians 2:13
"Ages to Come" Ephesians " 2:7


Time Past Genesis - Malachi

Gen. to Mal. Prophecy - Ministry of Israel
Under the Law
Matt. to John - Kingdom at Hand - Earthly ministry of
Christ to Israel Only
Kingdom Offered
Acts - Peter & The little flock

But Now  - Romans - Philemon
Grace
Kingdom Postponed Romans ll:25
Paul and the Body of Christ

Ages to Come - Hebrews - Revelation
Kingdom Established  Rev. 11:15; 20:4-6
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God
Not of works, lest any man should boast.

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Re: Grace Church
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2010, 07:27:12 AM »
  This is from our web sight.   

THE CROSS" and "CHRIST CRUCIFIED (1 Corinthians 1:18,23)


The point is this. The gospel that the Twelve Apostles preached during the earthly ministry of Christ is not the same gospel the Apostle Paul was sent to preach later. According to 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 the gospel Paul preached was the GOOD NEWS of the DEATH, BURIAL, and RESURRECTION of Christ FOR OUR SINS.


Paul tells us in Galatians 1:11,12 where his gospel originated. It was after the resurrection and ascension that the Lord Jesus Christ revealed to the Apostle Paul all that was accomplished on the Cross. In acts 20:24 Paul calls this message "THE GOSPEL OF THE GRACE OF GOD." In Galatians 2:1,2 we see that this gospel is intended for the Gentiles as well as the Jews; and in Galatians 2:6-10 we find that the Twelve Apostles learned of this gospel from Paul.


In this present age of "GRACE", God has set Israel as a nation aside, and the Kingdom promised to them has been postponed until a future time. Therefore the "GOSPEL OF THE KINGDOM" is NOT God's message of good news for today, but rather the good news of how the Cross saves Sinners of all nationalities. This is God's message for today

  Are we allowed to put web sights here ?   Or u tub ?
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« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2010, 09:38:04 AM »

Hello davidmac    ::smile::

I looked at the rules, and it seems like I can post our Web !
So if you wish to look at it , or ask any question ?

I tend to go in circles some of the time.  But I do love to talk of the bible.

And how God has made it so easy for us in this time.
To be saved and not loose our salvation, how wonderful that is !!  ::amen!::

There is a lot to look at .  We have links to other believers.  We are on TV and
the computer.   

http://www.rightlydividing.org/

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Not of works, lest any man should boast.

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Re: Grace Church
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2010, 01:08:08 PM »
Howdy Grams,
I looked over your church's doctrinal statement and I agree with it on a number of topics such as-The Bible,The Godhead, the person of Christ,total depravity, redemption,Eternal Security, the Holy Spirit, the church, walk,resurrection,and second coming of Christ.
I agree with  half of your churches statement on baptism- "All saved persons have been made members of the Body of Christ by One divine baptism (this is baptism into the Body of Christ by the Holy Spirit). By that ONE BAPTISM, every member of the Body of Christ is identified with Christ in His death, burial and resurrection."
But disagree with the statement-
" In light of the statement concerning the "ONE BAPTISM" in Ephesians 4:5 and the statement in I Corinthians 1:17 that "Christ sent me not to baptize but to preach the gospel", we affirm that water baptism has no place in God's spiritual program for the Body of Christ in this day of grace."
I believe that the great commission is in order until the Lord comes for His own and that all of those who have trusted Christ for salvation should be immersed in water. Just as the elements of the Lord's supper symbolize the body and blood of our blessed Lord our burial in water (baptism) symbolizes our union with Him and this ritual saves us in a symbolic sense- We are told in 1Peter 3:21-
"The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God)"
Baptism symbolizes the washing away of our sins- "And now why do you wait? Rise and be baptized and wash away your sins, calling on his name."(Acts22:16)
Don't get me wrong- I  do not believe in literal baptismal regeneration just as I do not believe in transubstantiation-but these symbols (not substance- I know), are rituals (not the reality- I know) that are full of meaning and are important. Are there unbaptized born again Christians- of course! But they are like those who are married but without a wedding ceremony.I know I probably will not change your mind on baptism-and that is OK. I think that your church has emphasized dispensational truth far beyond the understanding of most Christians-and some of the teaching sounds interesting,but doesn't convince me personally.
I say all this to also say-there is so much that we do agree on-and I pray for the Lord's blessing for you and yours. ::smile::
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Re: Grace Church
« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2010, 02:25:30 PM »
Well thank you davidmac  !

I have come a long way [ and my husband ]

We were both Catholic.  Until our children started to roam off into other religions.
I have to say I do not know how they are now the Catholic religion .
But in my time, they were not good !   No bible, no questions, do as we say and
that is that !
This verse  really shook me up , the first time I read it .

Mat 6:5  And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
Mat 6:6  But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
 


It is so wonderful to have the bible to read !
I believe my bible every word.   I have been arguing at another forum about this.
So many people believe the bible has a lot of mistakes.
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God
Not of works, lest any man should boast.

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Re: Grace Church
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2010, 04:52:42 PM »
 ::huggingyou:: I too believe every word in the bible ::reading::- I will be looking for more of your posts
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Re: Grace Church
« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2010, 12:36:38 AM »
Grams, I am glad that you are with a fundamental Christian denomination rather than the popular modernistic sects, but like most fundamental gatherings it is still "denominational" in that it is denominated as Grace Church  ---right? 

The scriptural designation for a Christian assembly must be according to the Word, which most denominations are not by their sectarian nature.  I hope this doesn't offend you, but I just wanted to direct your attention to the inconsistency there.  Look up always!

- Seriousseeker
I believe a faithful "child of God" should trust our Savior --the Lord Jesus (which pleases the Father), worship Him and make Him our best Friend;  value "unity of the faith", be non-sectarian and hold fully to Scripture ---declaring "all the counsel of God" and be "rightly dividing the Word of Truth" as the Apostle Paul counseled the saints.  Let us look up always (note John 14).

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« Reply #9 on: July 09, 2010, 04:50:03 AM »
Hello Seriousseeker,

We at are church are not a religion.
We "Rightly Dividing the Word of Truth"

There is a 

"Time Past"  Eph. 2:11,12

"But Now"  Eph. 2:13

"Ages to Come"  Eph. 2:7

When our Tom,[ preacher ] teaches us.  He always has verses from the bible to
back up what he has said.   He does study a lot !
 And when ever he has a different view on things then what he has preached before , he will tell us. 
He alway's backs up every thing with these words. 
"Don't believe me !  Look it up in the Bible.

I did post [ a few posts]  our web above you can look at any thing there you want to.

There are things to read .  And there are links to other churches which believe  about the same as we do.  And we have a U Tub, with our Tom preaching, from our Sunday services.    Take a look !  Lots to see.

For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God
Not of works, lest any man should boast.

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