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Re: I did not lie
« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2011, 11:38:54 PM »
I don't know what you're reading but save the bogus misrepresentations for Maury or Jerry Springer.

There's nothing bogus in what I have said.

No pretty much everything you say is bogus when concerning my Faith.

Perhaps it may be bogus to your personal faith, but yours isn't the faith we must live by as Christians. That is why what I say seems so foreign and antagonistic to you.

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« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2011, 11:45:32 PM »

If I cared about the opinions of men I may have blinked twice at that petty remark.

Go ahead and join on the team larry that would explain why you keep locking our threads instead of mandating honesty and decency from those non catholics speaking about Catholicism. 


All you have to do in those threads is to discontinuing the name calling, and I do think you are not entirely to blame.

Honesty? Here Sister Grams has given her testimony, and has ended up being attacked for doing so. If you don't want such witness, get your church to do differently; become Pope and change it, and then you too can wear cute little red papal slippers, white dresses, and funny hats.

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Re: I did not lie
« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2011, 11:58:27 PM »
You guys seriously need to define what the protestant definition is for the word "attack".

If trying to shed the light on the false teachings she was allegedly brainwashed to believe was Catholic doctrine is an "attack" than maybe I'm dealing with Satan in more direct sense than I thought.

Grams has been taught this false idea of Catholicism and all we were trying to do is help her understand that such was not true Catholicism.


Larry I'm a little surprised at you. You and I have disagreed in every encounter but one but we usually are honest with one another. I know you watched that thread. And I know you saw whose posting destroyed the peace. I know you saw it. I may be harsh, stone and I may be short but I know I am honest. I know you saw it Larry because I have been through that thread five times already to make sure I wasn't high off of second hogie smoke cycling through my dorm's hallway.

You may count it as a blessing that grams is not like me(which couldn't be more True) but I know you know who drew first blood with the crudeness in that thread and who has been initiating such the most lately. 

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« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2011, 12:05:15 AM »
That was a beautiful testimony Grams, and I thank you for posting.  I'm sure there are many that will be helped through your words.   ::smile::

I have a good friend who grew up in the Catholic church and got saved when he was in his senior year of highschool through classmates who preached the truth of God's Word and he got saved.

He was not saved as a Catholic and he shared with me how he was always trying to be "good," by doing what he was told by the CC, because he was so afraid that he would go to hell.  That was what he learned in the CC.

Quote Lighthammer:  "If I cared about the opinions of men I may have blinked twice at that petty remark."

You do care, very much.  In your words you deny the compassion and love God would have us to walk in towards Grams and others.  In your words you prefer the teachings of the men of the CC over God's Word.

I am saddened by your conduct.

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« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2011, 12:24:11 AM »

You guys seriously need to define what the protestant definition is for the word "attack".

If trying to shed the light on the false teachings she was allegedly brainwashed to believe was Catholic doctrine is an "attack" than maybe I'm dealing with Satan in more direct sense than I thought.

Grams has been taught this false idea of Catholicism and all we were trying to do is help her understand that such was not true Catholicism.

Larry I'm a little surprised at you. You and I have disagreed in every encounter but one but we usually are honest with one another. I know you watched that thread. And I know you saw whose posting destroyed the peace. I know you saw it. I may be harsh, stone and I may be short but I know I am honest. I know you saw it Larry because I have been through that thread five times already to make sure I wasn't high off of second hogie smoke cycling through my dorm's hallway.

You may count it as a blessing that grams is not like me(which couldn't be more True) but I know you know who drew first blood with the crudeness in that thread and who has been initiating such the most lately. 
 

Let me ask you straight out Brother LightHammer, and I know you're a brother in Christ whether you do or not. Are you saved and assured that Christ will not leave you? If not, grams has learned and you have not; case in point. Maybe you need children to lead you also. She has given her testimony and there is no reason for me to not believe her.

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Re: I did not lie
« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2011, 12:26:31 AM »
Joyfulle,

Judging me based off of one comment in a conversation that transcends this thread is not only foolish but judging by your discernment, or rather lack thereof, but very dangerous.

You don't know who I am or what you're talking about so apart from commenting on grams' testimony you really shouldn't address me if that's all you have to say. 

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« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2011, 12:36:24 AM »
Oh yea most definitely I believed I'm saved and I'm hoping Christ will proclaim such on the appointed Day before the Father.

As for Christ never leaving me, I believe it whole heartedly. You guys aren't the only one's with testimonies. However I try not to let my past distort my present.

Like I said Brother Larry, I know that you saw who initially led that thread astray. I know you saw who's posts have been the source of recent animosity. I know you are seeing what I'm seeing. 

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« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2011, 12:50:22 AM »
Oh yea most definitely I believed I'm saved and I'm hoping Christ will proclaim such on the appointed Day before the Father.

As for Christ never leaving me, I believe it whole heartedly. You guys aren't the only one's with testimonies. However I try not to let my past distort my present.

Like I said Brother Larry, I know that you saw who initially led that thread astray. I know you saw who's posts have been the source of recent animosity. I know you are seeing what I'm seeing. 


On the threads I shut down, I do know the problem, and it's going to have to be addressed, but don't make it a two headed coin.

As far as your present, God looks down on you and sees His Son in you; it gets no better than that. Now what you allow God to do in you has consequence of reward for eternity and that day before our Father has already occurred for us; we are a new creation in Christ. The only judgment you face is as you walk with the Lord now and avail yourself of His benefits for you. We are on the judgment seat now as He walks among the candlesticks, and when we see Him, his reward for us is with Him.
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« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2011, 01:10:46 AM »
Joyfulle,

Judging me based off of one comment in a conversation that transcends this thread is not only foolish but judging by your discernment, or rather lack thereof, but very dangerous.

You don't know who I am or what you're talking about so apart from commenting on grams' testimony you really shouldn't address me if that's all you have to say. 

Your lack of love, compassion, understanding is evident, in more than one statement to grams.  Love one another is what God's Word tells us.

Your defense is of the CC, not God's Word.  God is no respecter of persons.

Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks.

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« Reply #24 on: May 12, 2011, 05:11:03 AM »
  Please let me add this !

I know the Catholic Church has now changed !   My point now is , if you had not lived this you have no idea what I went through .
Theydid not  use the bible.   In my time there were no bibles !  Even the one the priest had at the alter was not a bible.  It was a giant prayer book !

OK !  I went to grade school in the 1940's !   Were you even alive then ?

The only thing the nuns did for us is when we made our first holy communion that we knew how to confess our sins, using the proper words !
What child want to tell his sins ?  To another human being.
If confessing your sins was the saving,  I sure flunked out !   I was not going to tell a man what I did in secret.  What most children do growing up .

And my big point is growing up  like this you are always told what to do and what not to do .
   You could not go to another church with out persmission  even for a Wedding or a Funeral  !
How could I learn any thing else if I was told to walk away from some one who was telling me of their doctrin ?
They brought me up into adult hood !  Were my belief stayed  !
The church was right, there was no other way  !

I bet you did not think I would tell you the church I grew up in ?
I am not ashed, but the church shoule be !   And the R.  K.   I cant spell his name !
I do know were he is spending his eternity !
Even though he did all that he did , I am sorry that he has to .............

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« Reply #25 on: May 12, 2011, 08:30:07 AM »
  Please let me add this !

I know the Catholic Church has now changed !   My point now is , if you had not lived this you have no idea what I went through .
Theydid not  use the bible.   In my time there were no bibles !  Even the one the priest had at the alter was not a bible.  It was a giant prayer book !

OK !  I went to grade school in the 1940's !   Were you even alive then ?

The only thing the nuns did for us is when we made our first holy communion that we knew how to confess our sins, using the proper words !
What child want to tell his sins ?  To another human being.
If confessing your sins was the saving,  I sure flunked out !   I was not going to tell a man what I did in secret.  What most children do growing up .

My oldest child receives his first communion on Sunday.  He had his first confession in January.  Since then he has ASKED me to bring him to confession 4 or 5 times.  He loves it, and he loves to live in the light.

Who would not want to confess their sins?  People pay thousands of dollars to psychologists to get sins off of their minds.  There have been random secular apps that have appeared in the world today where people confess their sins to the world.

Confession, apart from Eucharist, is the greatest sacrament for the human soul and psyche.  I absolutely love it, and frankly I don't know how ex-Catholics get by without it.

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« Reply #26 on: May 12, 2011, 08:42:14 AM »
Hi Grams!  ::smile::

I am sorry you went through all that, and from stories I have heard from others that attended the catholic schools you are spot on!

I'm sure there are some good catholic schools, but they hide well, lol.  My neighbor was looking for a Christian school for her young daughter, and said the catholic school were very uppity to her and wouldn't even show her the school.  (Bad move on the schools part, these folks are loaded with money).  She is taking her daughter to a Christian school and not the catholic school after that experience.

I had a similar situation like you did growing up in a SDA school, not going into it but some very strange things took place that should not have.  My SDA relatives get all hostile when I try to talk to them about it, as did some members in the church.  Like you, I left the church and found some kind and loving Christians in other churches.  I really enjoy the Baptist churches, I don't agree with them 100% but do find them to be loving folks that love Jesus and allow the members to have the freedom to have a loving relationship with Jesus without a bunch of mandated church rules.  We confess ONLY to Jesus, I'm with you on that!  I never have understood the having to go to some "man" to confess and find it sinful and against what God teaches us ~ He wants us to have a relationship with Him and that is why he made us!  Sad the burden it puts on some Christians to have all the man made rules and man made "traditions" since that is NOT from God.

So glad you have found a church that you like and allows you to have a relationship with Jesus, May God bless and keep you sister!

In Gods love,
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« Reply #27 on: May 12, 2011, 10:00:21 AM »
Oh yea most definitely I believed I'm saved and I'm hoping Christ will proclaim such on the appointed Day before the Father.

As for Christ never leaving me, I believe it whole heartedly. You guys aren't the only one's with testimonies. However I try not to let my past distort my present.

Like I said Brother Larry, I know that you saw who initially led that thread astray. I know you saw who's posts have been the source of recent animosity. I know you are seeing what I'm seeing. 


On the threads I shut down, I do know the problem, and it's going to have to be addressed, but don't make it a two headed coin.

As far as your present, God looks down on you and sees His Son in you; it gets no better than that. Now what you allow God to do in you has consequence of reward for eternity and that day before our Father has already occurred for us; we are a new creation in Christ. The only judgment you face is as you walk with the Lord now and avail yourself of His benefits for you. We are on the judgment seat now as He walks among the candlesticks, and when we see Him, his reward for us is with Him.
 ::smile::


I like that. Good stuff Big Brother.

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Re: I did not lie
« Reply #28 on: May 12, 2011, 10:13:57 AM »
Joyfulle,

Judging me based off of one comment in a conversation that transcends this thread is not only foolish but judging by your discernment, or rather lack thereof, but very dangerous.

You don't know who I am or what you're talking about so apart from commenting on grams' testimony you really shouldn't address me if that's all you have to say. 

Your lack of love, compassion, understanding is evident, in more than one statement to grams.  Love one another is what God's Word tells us.

Your defense is of the CC, not God's Word.  God is no respecter of persons.

Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks.

Blessings

The Catholic Church is the only place on this planet that uphols God's Word in its entirety. The only place. Let me make sure I over emphasize the only place on the planet. Protestants with their thousands of different "bible-truths" want to paint this picture of Catholicism that separates it from her creator Jesus Christ.

Its not that hard to grasp. Its what has to happen for protestantism to have any validity. The original Christian Church has to be proclaimed apostate in order to make reformation theology look like it is the solution to the problem, even if that problem does not truly exist.

I harbor no ill will torwards grams. She's not that important to think negatively of. I wonder easily take a bullet for as I would anyother. However its not my style or my upbringing to be gentle, I don't mean to be rude nearly as moften as people take it like that. I am just very direct and relentless in the face of what I percieve as dishonesty.

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« Reply #29 on: May 12, 2011, 10:18:22 AM »
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  We are on the judgment seat now as He walks among the candlesticks, and when we see Him, his reward for us is with Him.
       

May I ask who are you talking about?

GOD is light !