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Re: I did not lie
« Reply #30 on: May 12, 2011, 10:24:14 AM »

Hello  LightHammer,

So you still do not believe me ? 

And yet I have more stuff I could tell you that happened  !


For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God
Not of works, lest any man should boast.

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« Reply #31 on: May 12, 2011, 10:31:57 AM »

The Catholic Church is the only place on this planet that uphols God's Word in its entirety. The only place. Let me make sure I over emphasize the only place on the planet.

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I harbor no ill will torwards grams. She's not that important to think negatively of.


Brother you are digging that hole deeper and deeper.  The insanity of promoting your ill deceived "religion" and then turning around and saying that someone is "not that important".  If your intentions are to thwart people away from the catholics, then let me give you a gold star! 

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Re: I did not lie
« Reply #32 on: May 12, 2011, 11:01:21 AM »

The Catholic Church is the only place on this planet that uphols God's Word in its entirety. The only place. Let me make sure I over emphasize the only place on the planet.

 rofl  ::bowing::  ::crazy::  ::frown::




I harbor no ill will torwards grams. She's not that important to think negatively of.


Brother you are digging that hole deeper and deeper.  The insanity of promoting your ill deceived "religion" and then turning around and saying that someone is "not that important".  If your intentions are to thwart people away from the catholics, then let me give you a gold star! 

I don't really care about bringing about Catholic converts either. All I care about is bringing Christ to those who don't know Him not explaining who Christ really is to those who are erfectly satisfied with their false ideas of who He is.

I would apologize that I'm not like you all and don't feel comfortable hugging eachother and crying but I like to deal with problems instead of sobbing over them and I always always always look to myself before I try to balme anyone else for my problems.

"For they needs must seek some support,  since they have fallen from the foundation of the Apostles and have no settled mind of their own, and if they can find none, then they malign the fathers. But no one will believe them any more even if they make efforts to libel them, for their heresy is condemned on all hands." St. Athanasius of Alexandria

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Re: I did not lie
« Reply #33 on: May 12, 2011, 11:08:39 AM »

Hello  LightHammer,

So you still do not believe me ?  

And yet I have more stuff I could tell you that happened  !




Let me reiterate how much I really don't care. You can spend your life letting your experiences weigh you down and blaming the world or more specifically my Church for your problems if you want. You can let it bind you in tears and bitterness. You can even use it to justify not knowing what Catholics really believe. However what good does it do you when your problem doesn't go away? Even if you were the victum of rogues within my Church what good does it do for your to wallow in sadness over that? Pick yourself and strive for everything they deprived you of. Don't wallow in pathetic tears over it. If you do they win. Those corrupt men and women in your past win.

I never ever said your tesimony was false. All I ever tried to do was help you see that what you were taught was not what the Catholic Church upholds. You did not want to hear that. Your friend Lively Stone starting throwing stones and you followed behind her because it felt good.

Now you guys want to trun your little crying circle into a mob that makes me seem like the bad guy because I was trying to defend my Faith and promote its ACTUAL teachings.

Sorry if I am not quick to embrace you for such but you are all delusional if you do not see it. Like I said I have been through "The Saints" thread over five times and I never once wronged you. I never once tried to mock your testimony. All I tried to do was show you what Catholics really believe.

Go drown yourself in tears because you equate that to an "attack".


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Just stay away from me if you're going to cry when I try to correct any misconceptions you have about my Church. You have gathered all these memebers who are doing this whole woe is me routine and all I tried to was help you and give you true information. It kind of makes me upset that I'm getting all this static and I never even mentioned your testimony in any negative light. Just stop addressing me if this is how you and your little tem are going to act.
« Last Edit: May 12, 2011, 11:17:02 AM by LightHammer »
"For they needs must seek some support,  since they have fallen from the foundation of the Apostles and have no settled mind of their own, and if they can find none, then they malign the fathers. But no one will believe them any more even if they make efforts to libel them, for their heresy is condemned on all hands." St. Athanasius of Alexandria

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« Reply #34 on: May 12, 2011, 11:55:12 AM »

Grams, does the Pope wear still cute red shoes, something akin to a woman's dress,  a stupid looking hat, and walk around with his hands folded in a very pious way as if he is going to suddenly break out in ten hail Mary's? I went through the Latin phase too, and the Fish Fridays; all Catholics ought to learn Latin.

PS; if that floats their boat, what do I care? I see many Protestants doing what I consider off the wall too. Ever heard of the gift of laughter, and other such phenomenal activity such as carrying the Holy Spirit around in a bucket to pour upon people? 

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« Reply #35 on: May 12, 2011, 12:17:45 PM »

.......and other such phenomenal activity such as carrying the Holy Spirit around in a bucket to pour upon people? 

::lookaround:: I'm really wanting to crack up about carrying the Holy Spirit in a bucket, just trying to be a bit PC here ~ we got to be careful, me thinks Bubba Lighthammer is a'fixin to start tearing up... ::cryingtears:: (bless his heart)

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Re: I did not lie
« Reply #36 on: May 12, 2011, 12:21:32 PM »
Quote Lighthammer from other thread: 

" I'm not an expert so I will share only what I know. To be a canonized saint the candidate must have two miracles accreditted to their intercessory prayer. By intercessory prayer we mean a saint on earth asks a saint in heaven to pray for them. When the saint in heaven prays for the siant on earth, the petition ascneds the Throne of God where the Father sits at the center and the Son at the Right Hand of Power. The petition comes to the Son and as our High Priest and One Mediator, the Son presents it to the Father. If the Father approves the miracles is carried out."
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You prefer man's (manmade) doctrines of the CC over God and God's very Word.

Show me in God's Word where what you have stated above is, please and thank you.

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Rom. 8:14  For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

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Re: I did not lie
« Reply #37 on: May 12, 2011, 12:29:10 PM »
Quote from Lighthammer from other thread:

"Of course she prays to Pope John Paul II for healing just like you pray to your brothers and sisters at your local church for their prayers.

Oh nevermind its no point in expecting honesty."
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Christians never pray "to" their brothers and sisters.

They pray "for" one another.

Jam 5:16   Confess [your] faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

Big difference.

We pray "to" God "for" one another in the name of Jesus who is our mediator.

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« Reply #38 on: May 12, 2011, 12:31:12 PM »

Quote from: larry2
 

We are on the judgment seat now as He walks among the candlesticks, and when we see Him, his reward for us is with Him.




May I ask who are you talking about?



I just posted the following link to have for further reference.

http://www.gracecentered.com/christian_forums/theology/the-judgment-seat-of-christ/

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Re: I did not lie
« Reply #39 on: May 12, 2011, 12:33:04 PM »

.......and other such phenomenal activity such as carrying the Holy Spirit around in a bucket to pour upon people? 

::lookaround:: I'm really wanting to crack up about carrying the Holy Spirit in a bucket, just trying to be a bit PC here ~ we got to be careful, me thinks Bubba Lighthammer is a'fixin to start tearing up... ::cryingtears:: (bless his heart)

I would say that you guys aren't that important to cry about but you guys would only take that out of proportion.
"For they needs must seek some support,  since they have fallen from the foundation of the Apostles and have no settled mind of their own, and if they can find none, then they malign the fathers. But no one will believe them any more even if they make efforts to libel them, for their heresy is condemned on all hands." St. Athanasius of Alexandria

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« Reply #40 on: May 12, 2011, 12:36:09 PM »
Quote Lighthammer from other thread: 

" I'm not an expert so I will share only what I know. To be a canonized saint the candidate must have two miracles accreditted to their intercessory prayer. By intercessory prayer we mean a saint on earth asks a saint in heaven to pray for them. When the saint in heaven prays for the siant on earth, the petition ascneds the Throne of God where the Father sits at the center and the Son at the Right Hand of Power. The petition comes to the Son and as our High Priest and One Mediator, the Son presents it to the Father. If the Father approves the miracles is carried out."
____________________________________________ ____________________________________________ _________________________________

You prefer man's (manmade) doctrines of the CC over God and God's very Word.

Show me in God's Word where what you have stated above is, please and thank you.

Blessings



Do you honestly even care what I present? When I debate protestants I genuinely am interested in understanding their positions and when we reach that understanding its pretty cool. However I have met only like two protestants on this site who actually cared about understanding my position. The most of you just want to shout about how false it is.

"For they needs must seek some support,  since they have fallen from the foundation of the Apostles and have no settled mind of their own, and if they can find none, then they malign the fathers. But no one will believe them any more even if they make efforts to libel them, for their heresy is condemned on all hands." St. Athanasius of Alexandria

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« Reply #41 on: May 12, 2011, 01:41:55 PM »
Quote Lighthammer from other thread: 

" I'm not an expert so I will share only what I know. To be a canonized saint the candidate must have two miracles accreditted to their intercessory prayer. By intercessory prayer we mean a saint on earth asks a saint in heaven to pray for them. When the saint in heaven prays for the siant on earth, the petition ascneds the Throne of God where the Father sits at the center and the Son at the Right Hand of Power. The petition comes to the Son and as our High Priest and One Mediator, the Son presents it to the Father. If the Father approves the miracles is carried out."
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You prefer man's (manmade) doctrines of the CC over God and God's very Word.

Show me in God's Word where what you have stated above is, please and thank you.

Blessings



Do you honestly even care what I present? When I debate protestants I genuinely am interested in understanding their positions and when we reach that understanding its pretty cool. However I have met only like two protestants on this site who actually cared about understanding my position. The most of you just want to shout about how false it is.


You evaded the question.

I have said to you, more than once, that you prefer the doctrines (manmade) of the CC over God's very Word.  In your postings it is mostly the teachings or doctrines of the CC which you adamantly defend, rather than God's very Word.  Something is very wrong with this mindset.

Prove that to yourself by showing where in God's Word you find this teaching from the doctrine of the CC, which you uphold and defend.

Prove to yourself where your true allegiance lies.  It is with an organization and not with God Himself.

As Christians, God's Word has the authority in all things.  Never should we uphold or defend the teachings/doctrines of any man or organization whose teachings contradict God's very Word and who are elevated above God's very Word.

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Re: I did not lie
« Reply #42 on: May 12, 2011, 02:02:22 PM »
Quote Lighthammer from other thread: 

" I'm not an expert so I will share only what I know. To be a canonized saint the candidate must have two miracles accreditted to their intercessory prayer. By intercessory prayer we mean a saint on earth asks a saint in heaven to pray for them. When the saint in heaven prays for the siant on earth, the petition ascneds the Throne of God where the Father sits at the center and the Son at the Right Hand of Power. The petition comes to the Son and as our High Priest and One Mediator, the Son presents it to the Father. If the Father approves the miracles is carried out."
____________________________________________ ____________________________________________ _________________________________

You prefer man's (manmade) doctrines of the CC over God and God's very Word.

Show me in God's Word where what you have stated above is, please and thank you.

Blessings



Do you honestly even care what I present? When I debate protestants I genuinely am interested in understanding their positions and when we reach that understanding its pretty cool. However I have met only like two protestants on this site who actually cared about understanding my position. The most of you just want to shout about how false it is.


You evaded the question.

I have said to you, more than once, that you prefer the doctrines (manmade) of the CC over God's very Word.  

The Catholic Church is not man made, unlike all protestant denominations, which are  man made.
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Re: I did not lie
« Reply #43 on: May 12, 2011, 02:09:56 PM »
ALL churches are man made, some are made from what Jesus told us to follow per the Holy Bible, others that are run on traditions of man are not of God and will be destroyed by their own hand and sinful nature.  The churches that pray to idols and dead saints will be cursed.

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« Reply #44 on: May 12, 2011, 02:13:13 PM »
ALL churches are man made

Wrong:

18 And I tell you that you are cephas, and on this cephas I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it.
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