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Question about Sub-Forums
« on: Wed May 12, 2021 - 21:02:11 »
I'm a newbie, just was noticing the listing of sub-forums here in the "Organized Religion and Religious Movements Discussions" and was scratching my head, just seems unusual on first sight.  Just wondering:

1)  Why is there a sub-forum entitled "Calvinism" and not one entitled "Arminianism" when the two are the relevant opposing theologic constructs that have played off of each other over the centuries? 
2)  I note you have both "Catholic Forum" and "Protestantism".  Why not therefore say "Protestant Forum" instead of "Protestantism"?  Or alternatively, "Catholicism" and "Protestantism", since the two theologic constructs are the main, directly opposing ones since the Reformation? 



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Re: Question about Sub-Forums
« Reply #1 on: Thu May 13, 2021 - 04:50:15 »
I'm a newbie, just was noticing the listing of sub-forums here in the "Organized Religion and Religious Movements Discussions" and was scratching my head, just seems unusual on first sight.  Just wondering:

1)  Why is there a sub-forum entitled "Calvinism" and not one entitled "Arminianism" when the two are the relevant opposing theologic constructs that have played off of each other over the centuries? 
2)  I note you have both "Catholic Forum" and "Protestantism".  Why not therefore say "Protestant Forum" instead of "Protestantism"?  Or alternatively, "Catholicism" and "Protestantism", since the two theologic constructs are the main, directly opposing ones since the Reformation?
I think I know why they have a Calvinism sub-forum and not one for  "Arminianism"~they consider  "Arminianism" the truth and not Calvinism....or, at least closer to the truth. Whereas, I consider Calvinism much closer to the truth and Arminianism another gospel~that's not to say that Calvinism, as preached by the Reformers, does not have its errors, for it certainly does.  Infant baptism, gospel means, justification by faith, which to them is man's faith, not Christ's, etc. just to name a few. Nevertheless, men and women who loved God and lived accordingly.

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Re: Question about Sub-Forums
« Reply #2 on: Thu May 13, 2021 - 22:52:21 »
I think I know why they have a Calvinism sub-forum and not one for  "Arminianism"~they consider  "Arminianism" the truth and not Calvinism....or, at least closer to the truth. Whereas, I consider Calvinism much closer to the truth and Arminianism another gospel~that's not to say that Calvinism, as preached by the Reformers, does not have its errors, for it certainly does.  Infant baptism, gospel means, justification by faith, which to them is man's faith, not Christ's, etc. just to name a few. Nevertheless, men and women who loved God and lived accordingly.
I see....that's really too bad, lots of discussion missed.

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Re: Question about Sub-Forums
« Reply #3 on: Fri May 14, 2021 - 00:31:18 »
I think I know why they have a Calvinism sub-forum and not one for  "Arminianism"~they consider  "Arminianism" the truth and not Calvinism....or, at least closer to the truth. Whereas, I consider Calvinism much closer to the truth and Arminianism another gospel~that's not to say that Calvinism, as preached by the Reformers, does not have its errors, for it certainly does.  Infant baptism, gospel means, justification by faith, which to them is man's faith, not Christ's, etc. just to name a few. Nevertheless, men and women who loved God and lived accordingly.
More like... Arminianism is so close in its beliefs to Calvinism that any discussion about it would go into the Calvinism forum.

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Re: Question about Sub-Forums
« Reply #4 on: Fri May 14, 2021 - 04:31:52 »
More like... Arminianism is so close in its beliefs to Calvinism that any discussion about it would go into the Calvinism forum.
Oh Jarroh~you are just confused on this subject by you making that statement as you are on politics~and that's a shame since you are a brilliant person otherwise....wasted gifts!  Take your kilt's off and put on a pair of pants, that may help. think like a man.  ::smile::

Every man of God before the Reformation and afterward would totally disagree with your statement~there are a volume of books proving my statement written from both sides.
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Re: Question about Sub-Forums
« Reply #5 on: Fri May 14, 2021 - 07:29:14 »
I see....that's really too bad, lots of discussion missed.

There is nothing stopping you from introducing a discussion of Arminianism in the Calvinism forum to compare the two.

As you will see here... all threads eventually splinter of into new areas

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Re: Question about Sub-Forums
« Reply #6 on: Fri May 14, 2021 - 13:05:15 »
More like... Arminianism is so close in its beliefs to Calvinism that any discussion about it would go into the Calvinism forum.
What an odd statement.  I guess that's why it's not a separate sub-forum here.

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Re: Question about Sub-Forums
« Reply #7 on: Fri May 14, 2021 - 13:08:22 »
There is nothing stopping you from introducing a discussion of Arminianism in the Calvinism forum to compare the two.

As you will see here... all threads eventually splinter of into new areas
Similarly, why have separate Catholic Forum and Protestantism sub-forums?  If there is just a Catholic Forum and no Protestantism forum, then a discussion on Protestantism could be simply started there with your reasoning.  And vice versa.

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Re: Question about Sub-Forums
« Reply #8 on: Fri May 14, 2021 - 13:38:02 »
Similarly, why have separate Catholic Forum and Protestantism sub-forums?  If there is just a Catholic Forum and no Protestantism forum, then a discussion on Protestantism could be simply started there with your reasoning.  And vice versa.


I was wrong, but then as I am me I claim that right. You seem so right ??? yet you missed this

Debate Arminianism

http://www.gracecentered.com/christian_forums/arminianism/

While it, like most of the sub forums is old.....

YOU might want to look into...

Calvinism or Arminianism

http://www.gracecentered.com/christian_forums/arminianism/calvinism-or-arminianism/

And then the rest of the threads in this forum.

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Re: Question about Sub-Forums
« Reply #9 on: Fri May 14, 2021 - 13:49:59 »
BTW:

It is a subforum of the Protestant one.

Protestantism
For discussion of matters concerning protestantism.

Sub Forums: Protestant Safe House , Arminianism, Debate Protestant Issues

http://www.gracecentered.com/christian_forums/organized-religion-and-religious-movements-discussions/

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Re: Question about Sub-Forums
« Reply #10 on: Fri May 14, 2021 - 14:41:05 »
BTW:

It is a subforum of the Protestant one.

Protestantism
For discussion of matters concerning protestantism.

Sub Forums: Protestant Safe House , Arminianism, Debate Protestant Issues

http://www.gracecentered.com/christian_forums/organized-religion-and-religious-movements-discussions/


Okay, that's fine, but again, then why not also make Calvinism a subforum of Protestantism along with Arminianism??  I'm just saying it's odd to me, anyway.

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Re: Question about Sub-Forums
« Reply #11 on: Fri May 14, 2021 - 15:53:22 »
Oh Jarroh~you are just confused on this subject by you making that statement as you are on politics~and that's a shame since you are a brilliant person otherwise....wasted gifts!  Take your kilt's off and put on a pair of pants, that may help. think like a man.  ::smile::

Every man of God before the Reformation and afterward would totally disagree with your statement~there are a volume of books proving my statement written from both sides.
For things to be opposites, they need to have most things in common.  E.g. the opposite of white is not trees, it's black.

Likewise, for Calvinism and Arminianism to be opposites, they must have most things in common.  To wit, both theologies center around questions of predestination and eternal security.

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Re: Question about Sub-Forums
« Reply #12 on: Fri May 14, 2021 - 19:32:34 »
Okay, that's fine, but again, then why not also make Calvinism a subforum of Protestantism along with Arminianism??  I'm just saying it's odd to me, anyway.

I dont care why.

The only sub forum I use is the preterist one.... as in me being an anti preterist.

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Re: Question about Sub-Forums
« Reply #13 on: Fri May 14, 2021 - 19:46:29 »
For things to be opposites, they need to have most things in common.  E.g. the opposite of white is not trees, it's black.

Likewise, for Calvinism and Arminianism to be opposites, they must have most things in common.  To wit, both theologies center around questions of predestination and eternal security.

Jarrod
Never heard that one before. But it would seem your reasoning would make it even more appropriate to place it as a sub-forum along with Arminianism, especially since the two began as reflections off one another, with very different point-by-point distinctions as between the two.  Both underpinned the progression of Protestantism after the Reformation, so that's why it appeared unusual to me to find them in different areas of your forum, but obviously it's your forum.  Just struck me as odd, that's all.
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