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Todd Bentley is back
« on: Sun Apr 21, 2013 - 09:54:56 »
Todd Bentley is back - live into our homes from his current base in South Africa.

There is a 'tell all' interview on Youtube with him and the founders of God TV, who ask him some pretty tough questions.   I think their integrity stood out - they genuinely did not want to be broadcasting something that appeared to not be of God.   

Have you seen any of it?  What do you think?

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« Reply #1 on: Sun Apr 21, 2013 - 11:30:17 »
Has he repented of abandoning his first wife (who is ill & he can't seem to heal) & kids?

Or is he hanging in there with his second, younger, prettier wife?


Is he planning on another "healing seminar" with outrageous ticket prices that don't get refunded when he cancels at the last minute?


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« Reply #2 on: Sun Apr 21, 2013 - 12:24:08 »
Has he repented of abandoning his first wife (who is ill & he can't seem to heal) & kids?

Or is he hanging in there with his second, younger, prettier wife?


Is he planning on another "healing seminar" with outrageous ticket prices that don't get refunded when he cancels at the last minute?

Way to go JohnDB for standing up and speaking the truth!

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« Reply #3 on: Sun Apr 21, 2013 - 15:40:43 »
I personally wouldnt give him the time of day. God TV should never have shown his outrageous so called 'healing' meetings in the first place, and if they are showing him again, they are even more deluded that I thought. I actually stopped watching God TV after they were putting this mans 'show' on night after night to the exclusion of the normal far more useful programmes.

Anyone who kicks a man with stomach cancer in his stomach so hard that he knocks him over and leaves him in awful pain(yes I saw that happen), because apparently God ' told' him to, is clearly not of God. Any man who abandons his wife and children for another woman who he was having an innappropriate relationship with during the so called 'revival' meetings, isn't of God. He did eventually apparently come for accountability and discilpline, but guess what, it was just AFTER he had married the OW so they couldn't tell him that he had to go back to his wife. Now there's a surprise.    ::pondering::

What concerns me the most is that so many were taken in by him last time, and even those on God TV seem to have no discernment at all. I did try and contact them about it but they never got back to me. ::frown::
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Re: Todd Bentley is back
« Reply #4 on: Sun Apr 21, 2013 - 16:12:50 »

Posted by: chosenone
« on: Today at 02:40:43 PM

"What concerns me the most is that so many were taken in by him last time,"

Why was anyone ever taken in concerning him at any time! 

Nevertheless, it is a good thing that some now who once knew him, will speak out against such a wicked person. 

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Re: Todd Bentley is back
« Reply #5 on: Sun Apr 21, 2013 - 16:17:26 »

Posted by: chosenone
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"What concerns me the most is that so many were taken in by him last time,"

Why was anyone ever taken in concerning him at any time! 

Nevertheless, it is a good thing that some now who once knew him, will speak out against such a wicked person. 

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  Ae they? Well  I hope so.

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Re: Todd Bentley is back
« Reply #6 on: Sun Apr 21, 2013 - 16:38:53 »
What gets me about his "apology" is that he asks for forgiveness but never really admits that he hurt anyone.

He talks a lot about "his pain" that he felt from all the condemnation (in reality caused by his poor choices) but not once about remorse over the pain he inflicted on others.

So. He will likely do it all again.

After all, to Todd, it is all about Todd and Todd's feelings.

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« Reply #7 on: Sun Apr 21, 2013 - 17:42:16 »
This question was asked of The Lord: Lord, what do you think of Todd Bentley and all these megachurches?

http://trumpetcallofgodonline.com/index.php5?title=Woe_to_the_Megachurches_of_Men

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« Reply #8 on: Sun Apr 21, 2013 - 19:39:55 »
This question was asked of The Lord: Lord, what do you think of Todd Bentley and all these megachurches?

http://trumpetcallofgodonline.com/index.php5?title=Woe_to_the_Megachurches_of_Men


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Re: Todd Bentley is back
« Reply #9 on: Sat May 18, 2013 - 13:19:34 »
My view is that in the beginning of the Lakeland 'revival', something real was definitely happening.  I have always had it taught to me (by my God-fearing parents) that even if something is foolish, God sees people's hearts.  If earnest, faithful people turn up to a meeting (no matter who is at the front), seeking God and a touch from Him, He will meet them there.  And so for that reason, I felt that at the start, some really lovely things were happening.

But then I recall walking into my parents' home one eveving and they had it on the TV...my gut reaction was irritation and I remember asking if they would switch it off because it was getting on my nerves.  So, from that I conclude that something had started to go wrong....your spirit does not lie!

As for now...I think the same as above.  I don't have much thought for the person leading it, but I do know that God will still honour hungry people if they turn up to those meetings, genuinely seeking Him.

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Re: Todd Bentley is back
« Reply #10 on: Sun May 19, 2013 - 21:13:56 »
Todd Bentley is back - live into our homes from his current base in South Africa.

There is a 'tell all' interview on Youtube with him and the founders of God TV, who ask him some pretty tough questions.   I think their integrity stood out - they genuinely did not want to be broadcasting something that appeared to not be of God.   

Have you seen any of it?  What do you think?


My opinion has not changed. I saw a lot of things that were clearly red flags about him.

I believe these are dangerous chaotic meethings.


Assemblies of God Statement on Revival:

http://ag.org/top/General_Superintendent/Statement_on_Revival.cfm


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« Reply #11 on: Sun May 19, 2013 - 21:17:51 »
This question was asked of The Lord: Lord, what do you think of Todd Bentley and all these megachurches?

http://trumpetcallofgodonline.com/index.php5?title=Woe_to_the_Megachurches_of_Men


Why ALL megachurches, Trumpeter ?

That is just not right.

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Re: Todd Bentley is back
« Reply #12 on: Sun May 19, 2013 - 22:06:42 »
This question was asked of The Lord: Lord, what do you think of Todd Bentley and all these megachurches?

http://trumpetcallofgodonline.com/index.php5?title=Woe_to_the_Megachurches_of_Men


Why ALL megachurches, Trumpeter ?

That is just not right.

 

No its not. Just because a church is large that doesn't make it bad of course. There are some amazing spirit filled large churches world wide. The can do so much for people because of the resources(money, skills, and abilities) they have. I would like to go to a large church, but we don't have many here in the UK.

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« Reply #13 on: Sun May 19, 2013 - 23:45:06 »
This question was asked of The Lord: Lord, what do you think of Todd Bentley and all these megachurches?

http://trumpetcallofgodonline.com/index.php5?title=Woe_to_the_Megachurches_of_Men


Why ALL megachurches, Trumpeter ?

That is just not right.

 

No its not. Just because a church is large that doesn't make it bad of course. There are some amazing spirit filled large churches world wide. The can do so much for people because of the resources(money, skills, and abilities) they have. I would like to go to a large church, but we don't have many here in the UK.


Right. There are great large churches. Mine is large but it is not considered a Megachurch. We do so much for people here. We have several ministries, contact groups, bible studies (in a huge gym) lol, Drama Ministry, worship and art Ministry (I joined!) , Craft Fellowship...etc... It is so powerful and so many awesome people. God loves it!

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Re: Todd Bentley is back
« Reply #14 on: Mon May 20, 2013 - 04:16:01 »
This question was asked of The Lord: Lord, what do you think of Todd Bentley and all these megachurches?

http://trumpetcallofgodonline.com/index.php5?title=Woe_to_the_Megachurches_of_Men


Why ALL megachurches, Trumpeter ?

That is just not right.

 

No its not. Just because a church is large that doesn't make it bad of course. There are some amazing spirit filled large churches world wide. The can do so much for people because of the resources(money, skills, and abilities) they have. I would like to go to a large church, but we don't have many here in the UK.


Right. There are great large churches. Mine is large but it is not considered a Megachurch. We do so much for people here. We have several ministries, contact groups, bible studies (in a huge gym) lol, Drama Ministry, worship and art Ministry (I joined!) , Craft Fellowship...etc... It is so powerful and so many awesome people. God loves it!


 I would love that Lily, as in our church things are geared mainly towards families with young children, because a lot of the congregation are families with young children. LOL.I would love to have other groups such as the artistic ones and creative ones. That church is so right for you isn't it, with the artistic ministry. I just KNOW that God is going to use you in amazing ways in art for Him. You are very gifted in that area, and it just needed to be directed at Him and not the enemy. Bless you.

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« Reply #15 on: Mon May 20, 2013 - 06:52:43 »
Just because a church is large that doesn't make it bad of course. There are some amazing spirit filled large churches world wide. The can do so much for people because of the resources(money, skills, and abilities) they have.

I believe Trump is part of the house church movement who believes any assembly too large to fit comfortably in someones residence is too big and inherently corrupt.

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« Reply #16 on: Mon May 20, 2013 - 07:25:56 »
Just because a church is large that doesn't make it bad of course. There are some amazing spirit filled large churches world wide. The can do so much for people because of the resources(money, skills, and abilities) they have.

I believe Trump is part of the house church movement who believes any assembly too large to fit comfortably in someones residence is too big and inherently corrupt.

Well yes, but that isn't true of course.

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« Reply #17 on: Mon May 20, 2013 - 19:10:40 »
This question was asked of The Lord: Lord, what do you think of Todd Bentley and all these megachurches?

http://trumpetcallofgodonline.com/index.php5?title=Woe_to_the_Megachurches_of_Men


Why ALL megachurches, Trumpeter ?

That is just not right.

 

No its not. Just because a church is large that doesn't make it bad of course. There are some amazing spirit filled large churches world wide. The can do so much for people because of the resources(money, skills, and abilities) they have. I would like to go to a large church, but we don't have many here in the UK.


Right. There are great large churches. Mine is large but it is not considered a Megachurch. We do so much for people here. We have several ministries, contact groups, bible studies (in a huge gym) lol, Drama Ministry, worship and art Ministry (I joined!) , Craft Fellowship...etc... It is so powerful and so many awesome people. God loves it!


 I would love that Lily, as in our church things are geared mainly towards families with young children, because a lot of the congregation are families with young children. LOL.I would love to have other groups such as the artistic ones and creative ones. That church is so right for you isn't it, with the artistic ministry. I just KNOW that God is going to use you in amazing ways in art for Him. You are very gifted in that area, and it just needed to be directed at Him and not the enemy. Bless you.



True. I love this Church. It is like God planned it for me.

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“I just KNOW that God is going to use you in amazing ways in art for Him. You are very gifted in that area, and it just needed to be directed at Him and not the enemy. Bless you.”


Amen. I believe God saved my soul and I’ll do everything I could to glorify him.

I’m still in contact with the AoG healing minister even though I’m healed. She was trying hard to help me regain confidence in my faith. Sometimes I can’t touch anything unless I pray. Just two weeks ago, a lady in my church started crying and acting weird. I jumped in fear and stayed away from her. Other people did not pay any attention at all. I was very embarrassed.

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« Reply #18 on: Thu May 30, 2013 - 12:15:24 »
Just because a church is large that doesn't make it bad of course. There are some amazing spirit filled large churches world wide. The can do so much for people because of the resources(money, skills, and abilities) they have.
I believe Trump is part of the house church movement who believes any assembly too large to fit comfortably in someones residence is too big and inherently corrupt.
Well yes, but that isn't true of course.


I agree but there is something special about the smaller house groups.

From the email Tikkun Newsletter for June:  This is a listing of responses to an article by Dan Juster in the January issue.

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Reader Responses:

Father Nicholas M., D.Min. - As Cardinal Newman put it, the church is an organic entity, whose doctrine and life grows and proceeds by processes similar to nature. The 20th century corporate model of existence has little resemblance to the Creator's intention for human beings, and to try to imitate that mutant model of life in the church is of even greater concern. You hit it on the head, Dan...keep up the good work!

Hannah - I do so agree with what you have said, and pray for such a move of the Spirit which will enable us to live in such a way that brings honor to our GOD and envy and longing to those who do not yet know HIM.

Rittie - After having committed pretty much my entire believing life to this quest ... I now favor the model of small groups of people breaking bread and sharing life. I want to see people in love with Yeshua and each other. It is my conviction that we will grow into His image supernaturally naturally.

Dr. Juster replies: While I do not reject the value of larger meetings and celebrations, the meeting in the house was the most basic model in the first century.


http://www.tikkunministries.org/newsletters/dj-jun13.php

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« Reply #19 on: Thu May 30, 2013 - 12:48:55 »
Just because a church is large that doesn't make it bad of course. There are some amazing spirit filled large churches world wide. The can do so much for people because of the resources(money, skills, and abilities) they have.
I believe Trump is part of the house church movement who believes any assembly too large to fit comfortably in someones residence is too big and inherently corrupt.
Well yes, but that isn't true of course.


I agree but there is something special about the smaller house groups.

From the email Tikkun Newsletter for June:  This is a listing of responses to an article by Dan Juster in the January issue.

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Reader Responses:

Father Nicholas M., D.Min. - As Cardinal Newman put it, the church is an organic entity, whose doctrine and life grows and proceeds by processes similar to nature. The 20th century corporate model of existence has little resemblance to the Creator's intention for human beings, and to try to imitate that mutant model of life in the church is of even greater concern. You hit it on the head, Dan...keep up the good work!

Hannah - I do so agree with what you have said, and pray for such a move of the Spirit which will enable us to live in such a way that brings honor to our GOD and envy and longing to those who do not yet know HIM.

Rittie - After having committed pretty much my entire believing life to this quest ... I now favor the model of small groups of people breaking bread and sharing life. I want to see people in love with Yeshua and each other. It is my conviction that we will grow into His image supernaturally naturally.

Dr. Juster replies: While I do not reject the value of larger meetings and celebrations, the meeting in the house was the most basic model in the first century.


http://www.tikkunministries.org/newsletters/dj-jun13.php
 

Most churches in the UK have home groups within the larger church. Of course a larger church can offer far more in the way of annointed teachers etc and the churches that Paul wrote to were larger type meetings.

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« Reply #20 on: Fri Aug 30, 2013 - 13:11:18 »
Although it's a little off-topic, I don't see that there's anything inherently wrong with a 'mega church'.  I've not been a massive fan myself, because I like to feel like I know everyone in my church....but that doesn't mean that it's wrong for everyone else.  Each to their own!   A member of my family is on the leadership of a 'mega church' but the church has tried to shy away from the stereotype - as a result, the pastor goes out of his way to meet and greet as many of the church as he can and he takes a personal interest in as many as he can.  He seems like a godly and mature leader and he delegates a lot too, to his pastoral staff, to pick up where he can't.

Admittedly, my experience may be different - when I go, I am treated like family, because one of my family is a leader...but I have no reason to think that others experience anything different.

Also, Trumpeter, I have a problem with any kind of written prophecy where the 'voice of God' says uses Old English, as though that is somehow more holy than contemporary English.   Why would our God say things like 'whence' and 'Lo', when those are words not in common usage??? That to me, would be a God who is seperating Himself from a contemporary people.  It's not something I recognise.  Sorry!

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« Reply #21 on: Fri Aug 30, 2013 - 15:12:20 »
Although it's a little off-topic, I don't see that there's anything inherently wrong with a 'mega church'.  I've not been a massive fan myself, because I like to feel like I know everyone in my church....but that doesn't mean that it's wrong for everyone else.  Each to their own!   A member of my family is on the leadership of a 'mega church' but the church has tried to shy away from the stereotype - as a result, the pastor goes out of his way to meet and greet as many of the church as he can and he takes a personal interest in as many as he can.  He seems like a godly and mature leader and he delegates a lot too, to his pastoral staff, to pick up where he can't.

Admittedly, my experience may be different - when I go, I am treated like family, because one of my family is a leader...but I have no reason to think that others experience anything different.

Also, Trumpeter, I have a problem with any kind of written prophecy where the 'voice of God' says uses Old English, as though that is somehow more holy than contemporary English.   Why would our God say things like 'whence' and 'Lo', when those are words not in common usage??? That to me, would be a God who is seperating Himself from a contemporary people.  It's not something I recognise.  Sorry!
 

A mega church is simply a church that has a lot of people. I think its amazing to see so many together praising God.

 

     
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