As the church is subjected to Christ, that applies to every individual believer as well. The believers are not subjected to a church: they are subjected to Christ. If the church was persecuted and the building destroyed, the believers are still subjected to Christ.
Actually we are supposed to submit to authorities, including church authorities. (Heb 13)
Elders, deacons, and the pastors are the only immediate church authority that any assembly are to have as they are to be examples as well as subjective to Christ, and no one else above the church. It is explained that the meaning of the name, The Nicolaitanes, mean a heirarchy that is established over the laity.http://www.biblestudy.org/basicart/why-does-god-hate-practices-of-the-nicolaitans.html
So while some may contest between the meaning of the deeds of the Nicolaitans and the doctrine of the Nicolaitanes, the meaning of the name should decalre what they are about.
It is a work of iniquity when the church has leaders that sit in Moses seats to rule and not to serve as an example by seeking to serve and not be served.
True, but Jesus encouraged people to listen to the guy in the Moses seat (Mat 23:2). Under your calculation, if there is ever a bad leader you can dump the whole institution.
This is not what the Bible says.
Actually, it is when a house or an assembly does not hear you, then you are to depart. If one can correct within the assembly or excommunicate those contrary, then you have an assembly of likeminded believers contending for the faith and showing love for one another in their walks with Jesus.
Matthew 10: 12And when ye come into an house, salute it. 13And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it: but if it be not worthy, let your peace return to you. 14And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
We are not to forsake the assembly:
Hebrews 10: 24And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: 25Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
And yet we are not to have fellowship with works of darkness but rather reprove them.
Ephesians 5:10Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord. 11And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
But when a church does not heed and patronize, leave.
Seems America has changed the service of the leaders as ones like politicians as in instead of being public servants, the public are serving them: Seems being a preacher is a career choice as I had heard of a pastor of a church that did not believe in God, but was doing that as a career. His wife and son believes and hopes that he will see the error of the evolution theory, but again, it goes to point that being a preacher these days as "qualified" by a college degree opens the field of pastoring a church to being a career choice: not God's calling.
True, this is a problem. But this is what to expect when anyone can establish a church whenever he feels like it without approval of church authorities.
"Church authorities" or not, you can only correct error by the scriptures. God is able to call fishermen into the ministries: no college degree needs be the qualification for anyone when if God is leading them.
2 Corinthians 3: 5Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God; 6Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
So one can see the importance of Jesus being the Good Shepherd and not a pastor nor a church because they may not be subjected to Christ Jesus in all things.
Who of us is subjected to Christ in all things? What is the alternative you propose?
Taking direction only from God. This isn't scriptural and can (and often does) lead to meglomania.
The problem here is when a church believes they can do no wrong.
Did you have the Promise Keepers' program in your church? Did your church experienced the "holy laughter" movement? These two plumblines was sent out in 1994, permitted by God, to see who would depart from faith to resorting to their own power and/or chase after other gods. The two movements were ecumenical in nature in gathering grapes of thorns and figs of thistles and although the banner waved is no longer highlighted presently, it proves that the church is asleep.
How could such a thing occur in these churches. When they had a little leaven that allowed it to leaven into a whole lump. From the commitment to follow Christ for the assurance of salvation presented at the altar call by a famous preacher and by the Nicene creed that broadened the way in the worship place to include the Holy Spirit as a sole worship even from the hymnals, thus allowed man to resort to more bondages in living the christian life in the Pormise Keepers program and allow spirits to steal the spotlight in the worship place when the real indwelling Holy Spirit will not speak of Himself so that He may testify of the Son in seeking the glory of the Son.
Indeed, a faithful witness as led by the Holy Spirit would only testify of the Son in seeking His glory which is the mind of Christ to be having in fellwoship and worship as God the Father cannot be honoured nor glorified except through the Son... and that is what the Holy Spirit Whom is God also, is leading believers to do so that they serve nothing else in His name nor glorify anything else in His name as the name of Jesus is above every other name.
One of the things I love about my church is its rich tradition which clergy must agree to uphold. This tradition includes great saints, martyrs, and, yes, preachers.
Want to know the truth? The church is the "pillar and foundation" of the truth. (I Tim 3:15)
The question to answer is which church.
That is the question when Jesus cryptically prophesied that because of false prophets, only a few will find the faith because the way has been broadened in how we approach God the Father other than by way of the Son.
Pride cometh before the fall. If the falling away of the faith is prophesied to occur, and I dare say that it has, maybe the church should stop trying to save face and instead, defend the faith by pruninbg away words and practises that are not representative of that faith. Little things that have been picked up along the way, adding more as time goes by, is nothing short but a lobster in a slowly boiling kettle.
Time to go to Jesus in prayers for some serious prunings.
As it is, routines and complacency is what causing alot of believers to be
Maybe so, but creative worship is not necessarily virtue. The unfortunate thing about it: you can do it only once before it becomes a routine.
There is a name when we really examine something we have read many times before. It is called meditation and that's not a bad thing.
Actually, creative worship is what is getting the church in trouble in the first place. They were creative about the Nicene creed and still no one saw the small leaven in it. The Holy Spirit Whom will not speak of himself, is not seeking to be worshipped nor glorified with the Father and the Son. John 5:22-23 & John 13:31-32 leaves the Third Person of the Trinity out of this mind of Christ we are to have since we are led by the Spirit to testify of the Son to glorify the Son to the glory of God the Father.
And the fact that the Holy Spirit is NOT the Giver of Life, but Jesus Christ is, proves how the creativity of man.. which the Nicene creed was done in ecumenical format to draw all churches together in agreement with the RCC, proves it is an agreement non-Catholics christians should not be making.
John 6: 32Then Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Moses gave you not that bread from heaven; but my Father giveth you the true bread from heaven. 33For the bread of God is he which cometh down from heaven, and giveth life unto the world. 34Then said they unto him, Lord, evermore give us this bread. 35And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.
John 11: 25Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: 26And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?
So the Holy Spirit is not the Giver of Life.
Semantics? That is the cop out excuse used by churches that do not seek to have their words and deeds reproved to be found abiding in Him. Either we bear a faithful witness, or we are lost in the creativity that has been crept into the churches not supported by the scriptures from the early secular history of the churches.
2 Corinthians 6: 14Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? 15And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? 16And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 17Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you. 18And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.