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Buster D Body Crab

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in my area. Which one is right? Which message of Jesus as he taught it is the one that is taught today?

I've come a long way in life and experienced different things including spiritual and religious practices.Lately I've had a really strong craving to learn about Christianity. I just feel like I want to carry the bible and have it close to me.

Someone gave me an amplified bible for my birthday and it is almost like a magnet. I read the new testament and that is great. But since there are so many denominations out there which one is holding to those scriptures?

Thanks for your answers.


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This is pretty much the same as your other post... but you did ask an additional question.

"But since there are so many denominations out there which one is holding to those scriptures?"

I would say, none. They all fall short to a degree.

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But since there are so many denominations out there which one is holding to those scriptures?

None, so don't get sucked in.

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But since there are so many denominations out there which one is holding to those scriptures?

None, so don't get sucked in.

None, including CoC, nondenominational, home church and etc...

so what are you saying? No one should assemble together?

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in my area. Which one is right? Which message of Jesus as he taught it is the one that is taught today?

I've come a long way in life and experienced different things including spiritual and religious practices.Lately I've had a really strong craving to learn about Christianity. I just feel like I want to carry the bible and have it close to me.

Someone gave me an amplified bible for my birthday and it is almost like a magnet. I read the new testament and that is great. But since there are so many denominations out there which one is holding to those scriptures?

Thanks for your answers.
 

In my time going to different churches in the UK, I have  found that the Vineyard churches and the New Frontiers churches have been the closest.  However if you go along to different ones, I am sure you will be able to discern the right one for you.

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None, including CoC, nondenominational, home church and etc...

so what are you saying? No one should assemble together?

I'm saying that unless the Lord specifically sends one into a denominational/"non-denominational" assembly they should be avoided. That includes many house churches, every denomination from Baptist to Roman Catholic to Messianic and also "non-denominational" assemblies which are simply denominations unto themselves. But one should definitely assemble with other believers as one is able to whether it be in a home, dedicated building, or a park.

Buster D Body Crab

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This is pretty much the same as your other post... but you did ask an additional question.

"But since there are so many denominations out there which one is holding to those scriptures?"

I would say, none. They all fall short to a degree.
Hi. Yes, I ask this a couple of times here because as silly as it may sound I don't want to get it wrong.

It isn't easy to explain but I have this hunger to enter into the bosom of Christ and stay there with my bible. Weird huh? But there it is. It is just this magnetic draw that makes me want to learn everything I can so that he knows my name and I am a true Christian.

Thanks for any help. Forgive the weird wording of this I just don't know how to put it except for what I feel in my heart.

LexKnight

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This is pretty much the same as your other post... but you did ask an additional question.

"But since there are so many denominations out there which one is holding to those scriptures?"

I would say, none. They all fall short to a degree.
Hi. Yes, I ask this a couple of times here because as silly as it may sound I don't want to get it wrong.

It isn't easy to explain but I have this hunger to enter into the bosom of Christ and stay there with my bible. Weird huh? But there it is. It is just this magnetic draw that makes me want to learn everything I can so that he knows my name and I am a true Christian.

Thanks for any help. Forgive the weird wording of this I just don't know how to put it except for what I feel in my heart.

Totally understood, man. Just remember it's your walk with Him, not with Christianity.

Buster D Body Crab

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Thanks. I'm starting to see that. Christianity just seems to be the one word that is to bring all believers together. And if someone asks what I believe I'd thought it would be easier to say I'm Christian. Of course that was before I joined this forum and read how much conflict there is among those who do that now.
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Thanks. I'm starting to see that. Christianity just seems to be the one word that is to bring all believers together. And if someone asks what I believe I'd thought it would be easier to say I'm Christian. Of course that was before I joined this forum and read how much conflict there is among those who do that now.
 ::smacking:: ::cheesy::

YOu just need to do what you feel is right always, regardless of what others may say, however disagreements are not always a problem, its how we learn. Debating can be beneficial, and as long as we agree on the basics of our faith(which most here do) then thats the most important thing.   

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Thanks. I'm starting to see that. Christianity just seems to be the one word that is to bring all believers together. And if someone asks what I believe I'd thought it would be easier to say I'm Christian. Of course that was before I joined this forum and read how much conflict there is among those who do that now.
 ::smacking:: ::cheesy::

YOu just need to do what you feel is right always, regardless of what others may say,however disagreements are not always a problem, its how we learn.
I agree with you there.
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Debating can be beneficial, and as long as we agree on the basics of our faith(which most here do) then thats the most important thing.   
I'm all for debate it just seems that there is a lot of personal back and forth and belittling that goes on when discussing doctrine and the like.

I'm here because the name caught my attention. Grace centered. When I hear about Jesus and God and salvation what is said is that it is by Gods grace that we are saved. It is that and that this community purports in the name to be centered on that that caught my attention.
What I'm about is starting at the mouth of the road that I was led to by this inner calling to find Jesus there. And I know the sign post says that road is all about faith in him and salvation. It is all the little side roads that I'm finding people here discussing that make it confusing. Conditional stuff, unconditional stuff. Holy spirit abiding before someone repents because that is what leads them to that. Holy spirit coming in after baptism as with Christ when he was baptized by John.

I figure at this point if Jesus led me to seek him I may just be better off tuning in and letting him take the wheel down that road as I use the bible as the GPS.

There is a lot of confusion here in that argument stuff and even in debate that makes it hard for this one who is new to the whole deal to fathom. Jesus is suppose to be the prince of peace and here is a group of grace centered people who aren't at peace discussing Jesus.

I thank you all for your indulgence. I'll stick around and see what I see. I hope you all work things out too.

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If you are interested in learning why there are so many different churches and church groups in America, this book traces, with great detail, how these came about.   America has some groups which are unique to this continent.   A man I know had to read this book for a seminary class while he was living in England.   I own the book and recommend it.   

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Thanks. I'm starting to see that. Christianity just seems to be the one word that is to bring all believers together. And if someone asks what I believe I'd thought it would be easier to say I'm Christian. Of course that was before I joined this forum and read how much conflict there is among those who do that now.
 ::smacking:: ::cheesy::

YOu just need to do what you feel is right always, regardless of what others may say,however disagreements are not always a problem, its how we learn.
I agree with you there.
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Debating can be beneficial, and as long as we agree on the basics of our faith(which most here do) then thats the most important thing.   
I'm all for debate it just seems that there is a lot of personal back and forth and belittling that goes on when discussing doctrine and the like.

I'm here because the name caught my attention. Grace centered. When I hear about Jesus and God and salvation what is said is that it is by Gods grace that we are saved. It is that and that this community purports in the name to be centered on that that caught my attention.
What I'm about is starting at the mouth of the road that I was led to by this inner calling to find Jesus there. And I know the sign post says that road is all about faith in him and salvation. It is all the little side roads that I'm finding people here discussing that make it confusing. Conditional stuff, unconditional stuff. Holy spirit abiding before someone repents because that is what leads them to that. Holy spirit coming in after baptism as with Christ when he was baptized by John.

I figure at this point if Jesus led me to seek him I may just be better off tuning in and letting him take the wheel down that road as I use the bible as the GPS.

There is a lot of confusion here in that argument stuff and even in debate that makes it hard for this one who is new to the whole deal to fathom. Jesus is suppose to be the prince of peace and here is a group of grace centered people who aren't at peace discussing Jesus.

I thank you all for your indulgence. I'll stick around and see what I see. I hope you all work things out too.

Once you are more established in your faith, you may be able to see disagreement in a less threatening light. People come here from different countries, with very different lives and backgrounds and churches, there is bound to be disagreement sometimes. I never cease to be amazed at what some people who come here believe and say, but it can be useful as it makes us search more deeply ourselves, and it can also strengthen what we ourselves know and believe.  Avoid the threads/parts of the forum that you don't like, I do.

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Thanks. I'm starting to see that. Christianity just seems to be the one word that is to bring all believers together. And if someone asks what I believe I'd thought it would be easier to say I'm Christian. Of course that was before I joined this forum and read how much conflict there is among those who do that now.
 ::smacking:: ::cheesy::

YOu just need to do what you feel is right always, regardless of what others may say,however disagreements are not always a problem, its how we learn.
I agree with you there.
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Debating can be beneficial, and as long as we agree on the basics of our faith(which most here do) then thats the most important thing.   
I'm all for debate it just seems that there is a lot of personal back and forth and belittling that goes on when discussing doctrine and the like.

I'm here because the name caught my attention. Grace centered. When I hear about Jesus and God and salvation what is said is that it is by Gods grace that we are saved. It is that and that this community purports in the name to be centered on that that caught my attention.
What I'm about is starting at the mouth of the road that I was led to by this inner calling to find Jesus there. And I know the sign post says that road is all about faith in him and salvation. It is all the little side roads that I'm finding people here discussing that make it confusing. Conditional stuff, unconditional stuff. Holy spirit abiding before someone repents because that is what leads them to that. Holy spirit coming in after baptism as with Christ when he was baptized by John.

I figure at this point if Jesus led me to seek him I may just be better off tuning in and letting him take the wheel down that road as I use the bible as the GPS.

There is a lot of confusion here in that argument stuff and even in debate that makes it hard for this one who is new to the whole deal to fathom. Jesus is suppose to be the prince of peace and here is a group of grace centered people who aren't at peace discussing Jesus.

I thank you all for your indulgence. I'll stick around and see what I see. I hope you all work things out too.

I appreciate your comments.   

Take some time before you reach too many conclusions.   The people here do love God but sometimes we let our personal stuff get in the way.   We're not making eye contact as we "speak" to one another so some statements made to one another are not always perceived in the way that they are meant.   We've got a broad range of personalities.   I'm pretty matter-of-fact and that's from so many years of dealing with manufacturers, customers and employees.  If you're a manager you've got to make a decision, say what you think, and move on without having a lot of time to weigh your words.  When you're accustomed to a pressure-packed environment so many hours for so many years sometimes the fruit often comes from the emotional side and it's not a spiritual product.   I know of others here who work in pressure packed environments.   That's no excuse but it's the truth.   Many can understand such things and many just look at their own lives and own situations and they can't comprehend why others are not just like them in their beliefs and their opinions and how they communicate here.  We've all got different family experiences and situations.   We've all got different health situations.   We're different ages.   Most of us grew up in certain denominational groups so we come here with different beliefs right from the get-go.   We vary in theological knowledge and education.   We've got new converts to people with Doctorates in Theology.  We've got our doctrinal pets and our doctrinal pet peeves.   We've got people here who think the Jews are still the elect and we've got people here who think that the Mormons are the elect.   Actually we're a lot like the early church here at this forum.   The early church was in flux and they couldn't agree on much either.   It just goes to show how God moves His plans forward despite how unreliable His people are.   He gets the glory, not us.   He takes us as we are.   The Potter molds the clay and He has more patience than we do.  Someday we will be with Him and we will have been perfected.   For now we're supposed to occupy until He comes.   

Stay focused on Jesus Christ.   Learn Who He is.   Learn What He did for mankind (and is still doing).   Learn Why He had to do those what He did.   You'll find that these things are what are important in the Christian faith.   Whether we take Welch's grape juice communion from little plastic cups versus dipping bread into a large metal cup with real wine is not worth sweating about.   

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I appreciate your insight. Thank you.

Thanks. I'm starting to see that. Christianity just seems to be the one word that is to bring all believers together. And if someone asks what I believe I'd thought it would be easier to say I'm Christian. Of course that was before I joined this forum and read how much conflict there is among those who do that now.
 ::smacking:: ::cheesy::

YOu just need to do what you feel is right always, regardless of what others may say,however disagreements are not always a problem, its how we learn.
I agree with you there.
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Debating can be beneficial, and as long as we agree on the basics of our faith(which most here do) then thats the most important thing.   
I'm all for debate it just seems that there is a lot of personal back and forth and belittling that goes on when discussing doctrine and the like.

I'm here because the name caught my attention. Grace centered. When I hear about Jesus and God and salvation what is said is that it is by Gods grace that we are saved. It is that and that this community purports in the name to be centered on that that caught my attention.
What I'm about is starting at the mouth of the road that I was led to by this inner calling to find Jesus there. And I know the sign post says that road is all about faith in him and salvation. It is all the little side roads that I'm finding people here discussing that make it confusing. Conditional stuff, unconditional stuff. Holy spirit abiding before someone repents because that is what leads them to that. Holy spirit coming in after baptism as with Christ when he was baptized by John.

I figure at this point if Jesus led me to seek him I may just be better off tuning in and letting him take the wheel down that road as I use the bible as the GPS.

There is a lot of confusion here in that argument stuff and even in debate that makes it hard for this one who is new to the whole deal to fathom. Jesus is suppose to be the prince of peace and here is a group of grace centered people who aren't at peace discussing Jesus.

I thank you all for your indulgence. I'll stick around and see what I see. I hope you all work things out too.

I appreciate your comments.   

Take some time before you reach too many conclusions.   The people here do love God but sometimes we let our personal stuff get in the way.   We're not making eye contact as we "speak" to one another so some statements made to one another are not always perceived in the way that they are meant.   We've got a broad range of personalities.   I'm pretty matter-of-fact and that's from so many years of dealing with manufacturers, customers and employees.  If you're a manager you've got to make a decision, say what you think, and move on without having a lot of time to weigh your words.  When you're accustomed to a pressure-packed environment so many hours for so many years sometimes the fruit often comes from the emotional side and it's not a spiritual product.   I know of others here who work in pressure packed environments.   That's no excuse but it's the truth.   Many can understand such things and many just look at their own lives and own situations and they can't comprehend why others are not just like them in their beliefs and their opinions and how they communicate here.  We've all got different family experiences and situations.   We've all got different health situations.   We're different ages.   Most of us grew up in certain denominational groups so we come here with different beliefs right from the get-go.   We vary in theological knowledge and education.   We've got new converts to people with Doctorates in Theology.  We've got our doctrinal pets and our doctrinal pet peeves.   We've got people here who think the Jews are still the elect and we've got people here who think that the Mormons are the elect.   Actually we're a lot like the early church here at this forum.   The early church was in flux and they couldn't agree on much either.   It just goes to show how God moves His plans forward despite how unreliable His people are.   He gets the glory, not us.   He takes us as we are.   The Potter molds the clay and He has more patience than we do.  Someday we will be with Him and we will have been perfected.   For now we're supposed to occupy until He comes.   

Stay focused on Jesus Christ.   Learn Who He is.   Learn What He did for mankind (and is still doing).   Learn Why He had to do those what He did.   You'll find that these things are what are important in the Christian faith.   Whether we take Welch's grape juice communion from little plastic cups versus dipping bread into a large metal cup with real wine is not worth sweating about.

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Here is a nice lecture on how our Christian Churches came to be:


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dR3e5jssD0w


Very objective and insightful.

Buster D Body Crab

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Thank you. I'm listening to it now.

 

     
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