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Re: Spank Me Please Mommy and Daddy!
« Reply #35 on: Fri Feb 02, 2007 - 06:43:22 »
Or blowing up their headquarters, burning all their profits and giving their Boards of Directors wedgies.

Nasty ol' evil corporations.

Must've been spanked as  children.

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« Reply #36 on: Fri Feb 02, 2007 - 07:10:27 »
Please watch your choice of words Adrian.

Don't forget this is a Christian board, ok?

You seem very bitter about this matter.

I believe the point was that these CEOs have grown up to be self disciplined people now. I don't believe they are are so evil, as you seem to portray them. Some, no doubt are, but you find that in all walks of life, no matter where you look around.

That's why we need Jesus.

Blessings, Memmy
Selfishly taking one's business to idiotic measures by competively trying to create an unnecessary monopoly, despite the downfall of fellow companies, in order to get an uncomprehensible amount of cash that is completely supererogatory is not "self-discipline". Quite the opposite on the contrary. Especially when one person is taking all that money when the US is over 8 billion dollars in debt.

And when does someone have to be a CEO to be succesful to begin with? It's obviously not the correct choice for everyone. There are many other opportunities in "lesser" jobs that are just as, perhaps more satisfying.

Not all CEO's are bloodthirsty savages bent on world domination.  There are a few out that are greedy, but not all.

Our yearly budget deficit for the federal government has been in the billions the last few years, and our National Debt is over 8 Trillion.

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Re: Spank Me Please Mommy and Daddy!
« Reply #37 on: Sun Feb 04, 2007 - 11:07:32 »
Um... Adrian?  Ever thought of kidnapping and torturing CEO's?
Torturing, I've done. Kidnapping is illegal. I prefer the psychological torturing method which is completely legal. Unless it's a child.

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« Reply #38 on: Fri Feb 09, 2007 - 07:15:15 »
Spank me, please

Social psychologists and financial analysts continue to look for the critical personal characteristics that lead a person to be a CEO or successful entrepreneur. Much to the dismay of child psychologists, there is one thing they all seem to have in common.

As children, they were paddled, belted, switched or swatted.

Worldly success is not the standard by which to judge a successful life.  CEOs and successful entrepenuers often work 80-100 hours per week, ignore their children, and live empty, frustrating lives.  Of course this is not always the case.
My hope for my my daughter is that she grows up to be a happy, healthy servant of God.  I don't care if she does that from a boardroom or a class room.

Just my two cents.

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« Reply #39 on: Sun Mar 25, 2007 - 21:37:18 »
Perhaps that explains the abundance of moraly bankrupt CEOs. ::frown::

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Re: Spank Me Please Mommy and Daddy!
« Reply #40 on: Mon Mar 26, 2007 - 01:04:03 »
And also the abundance of morally bankrupt bus drivers, newspaper reporters, high school teachers...?

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« Reply #41 on: Thu Sep 25, 2008 - 16:28:46 »
I have three kids  now all adults. They got the VERY VERY occasional smack if I really got cross with them but I could NEVER have cold bloodedly hit them when I was calm and 'in control'. The thought makes me cringe inside and makes my blood run cold even thinking about it.
People were always commenting on how well bahaved and lovely they all were, and that was without corporal punishment, or hitting(and certainly not with a stick or belt or suchlike), just the usual tellings off and occasionally being sent to their rooms.
You only have to watch such programmes as super nanny now to see that all you need is consistency, and loving firmness to change even the most difficult child.  You dont need physical pnishment, she has proved that time and time again with the most naughty children you could imagine.

My husband was hit with the buckle end of a belt and he was a very sensitive child, and I am sure this has affected him badly and he still has some issues with his mum (who did the hitting) and they have a very poor relationship.
She even told a neighbour that they should shut their daughter in the chicken house for being naughty, when this poor little girl was really really scared of chickens. Well they did as she said.......goodness knows what happened the the little girl or how this affected her.
I guess if you want your children to obey out of fear, then go ahead, hit them with sticks, belts or whatever you want, but that isnt what I wanted for my children. I wanted them to bahave because it was the right thing to do and not because they were so scared and afraid of the punishment.

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Re: Spank Me Please Mommy and Daddy!
« Reply #42 on: Thu Sep 25, 2008 - 16:41:33 »
I have three kids  now all adults. They got the VERY VERY occasional smack if I really got cross with them but I could NEVER have cold bloodedly hit them when I was calm and 'in control'. The thought makes me cringe inside and makes my blood run cold even thinking about it.
People were always commenting on how well bahaved and lovely they all were, and that was without corporal punishment, or hitting(and certainly not with a stick or belt or suchlike), just the usual tellings off and occasionally being sent to their rooms.
You only have to watch such programmes as super nanny now to see that all you need is consistency, and loving firmness to change even the most difficult child.  You dont need physical pnishment, she has proved that time and time again with the most naughty children you could imagine.

My husband was hit with the buckle end of a belt and he was a very sensitive child, and I am sure this has affected him badly and he still has some issues with his mum (who did the hitting) and they have a very poor relationship.
She even told a neighbour that they should shut their daughter in the chicken house for being naughty, when this poor little girl was really really scared of chickens. Well they did as she said.......goodness knows what happened the the little girl or how this affected her.
I guess if you want your children to obey out of fear, then go ahead, hit them with sticks, belts or whatever you want, but that isnt what I wanted for my children. I wanted them to bahave because it was the right thing to do and not because they were so scared and afraid of the punishment.

Should I take the word of the Super Nanny or the Word of God?

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« Reply #43 on: Thu Sep 25, 2008 - 17:13:41 »
I have three kids  now all adults. They got the VERY VERY occasional smack if I really got cross with them but I could NEVER have cold bloodedly hit them when I was calm and 'in control'. The thought makes me cringe inside and makes my blood run cold even thinking about it.
People were always commenting on how well bahaved and lovely they all were, and that was without corporal punishment, or hitting(and certainly not with a stick or belt or suchlike), just the usual tellings off and occasionally being sent to their rooms.
You only have to watch such programmes as super nanny now to see that all you need is consistency, and loving firmness to change even the most difficult child.  You dont need physical pnishment, she has proved that time and time again with the most naughty children you could imagine.

My husband was hit with the buckle end of a belt and he was a very sensitive child, and I am sure this has affected him badly and he still has some issues with his mum (who did the hitting) and they have a very poor relationship.
She even told a neighbour that they should shut their daughter in the chicken house for being naughty, when this poor little girl was really really scared of chickens. Well they did as she said.......goodness knows what happened the the little girl or how this affected her.
I guess if you want your children to obey out of fear, then go ahead, hit them with sticks, belts or whatever you want, but that isnt what I wanted for my children. I wanted them to bahave because it was the right thing to do and not because they were so scared and afraid of the punishment.

Should I take the word of the Super Nanny or the Word of God?

Its debatable  and many have debated it, whether the word says that we should hit our children, but the point I was trying to make is that you actually dont need to beat/hit your children to get them to beome nice people. If other non violent methods work, then what an earth is the point of using violent ones? I know many people, Christians and otherwise who dont use violent methods and have lovely children. The point that I was making about supernanny is that she is called in to deal with REALLY badly behaved children and the methods she uses, which are widely used today, really work.
I am not saying we dont need to be firm and discipline our children, but why use violent methods if we dont have to?
Some children who are hit a lot can become resentful fearful and angry and this will stay inside until at some pont it may well emerge and cause lots of problems for them and those around them.

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« Reply #44 on: Thu Sep 25, 2008 - 17:18:44 »
I have three kids  now all adults. They got the VERY VERY occasional smack if I really got cross with them but I could NEVER have cold bloodedly hit them when I was calm and 'in control'. The thought makes me cringe inside and makes my blood run cold even thinking about it.
People were always commenting on how well bahaved and lovely they all were, and that was without corporal punishment, or hitting(and certainly not with a stick or belt or suchlike), just the usual tellings off and occasionally being sent to their rooms.
You only have to watch such programmes as super nanny now to see that all you need is consistency, and loving firmness to change even the most difficult child.  You dont need physical pnishment, she has proved that time and time again with the most naughty children you could imagine.

My husband was hit with the buckle end of a belt and he was a very sensitive child, and I am sure this has affected him badly and he still has some issues with his mum (who did the hitting) and they have a very poor relationship.
She even told a neighbour that they should shut their daughter in the chicken house for being naughty, when this poor little girl was really really scared of chickens. Well they did as she said.......goodness knows what happened the the little girl or how this affected her.
I guess if you want your children to obey out of fear, then go ahead, hit them with sticks, belts or whatever you want, but that isnt what I wanted for my children. I wanted them to bahave because it was the right thing to do and not because they were so scared and afraid of the punishment.

Should I take the word of the Super Nanny or the Word of God?

Its debatable  and many have debated it, whether the word says that we should hit our children, but the point I was trying to make is that you actually dont need to beat/hit your children to get them to beome nice people. If other non violent methods work, then what an earth is the point of using violent ones? I know many people, Christians and otherwise who dont use violent methods and have lovely children. The point that I was making about supernanny is that she is called in to deal with REALLY badly behaved children and the methods she uses, which are widely used today, really work.
I am not saying we dont need to be firm and discipline our children, but why use violent methods if we dont have to?
Some children who are hit a lot can become resentful fearful and angry and this will stay inside until at some pont it may well emerge and cause lots of problems for them and those around them.

Spanking isn't violent, abuse is violent.  It is discipline and it is mentioned favorably in God's Word.  My children are small.  I can't reason with them with words.  They understand a good swat.  I'll take God's Word over Super Nanny.  I don't want to spank my children when I'm cross, I want to do it without being angry, crossing the line happens when one is too angry.

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« Reply #45 on: Thu Sep 25, 2008 - 22:49:25 »
I have three kids  now all adults. They got the VERY VERY occasional smack if I really got cross with them but I could NEVER have cold bloodedly hit them when I was calm and 'in control'. The thought makes me cringe inside and makes my blood run cold even thinking about it.
People were always commenting on how well bahaved and lovely they all were, and that was without corporal punishment, or hitting(and certainly not with a stick or belt or suchlike), just the usual tellings off and occasionally being sent to their rooms.
You only have to watch such programmes as super nanny now to see that all you need is consistency, and loving firmness to change even the most difficult child.  You dont need physical pnishment, she has proved that time and time again with the most naughty children you could imagine.

My husband was hit with the buckle end of a belt and he was a very sensitive child, and I am sure this has affected him badly and he still has some issues with his mum (who did the hitting) and they have a very poor relationship.
She even told a neighbour that they should shut their daughter in the chicken house for being naughty, when this poor little girl was really really scared of chickens. Well they did as she said.......goodness knows what happened the the little girl or how this affected her.
I guess if you want your children to obey out of fear, then go ahead, hit them with sticks, belts or whatever you want, but that isnt what I wanted for my children. I wanted them to bahave because it was the right thing to do and not because they were so scared and afraid of the punishment.

Should I take the word of the Super Nanny or the Word of God?

Its debatable  and many have debated it, whether the word says that we should hit our children, but the point I was trying to make is that you actually dont need to beat/hit your children to get them to beome nice people. If other non violent methods work, then what an earth is the point of using violent ones? I know many people, Christians and otherwise who dont use violent methods and have lovely children. The point that I was making about supernanny is that she is called in to deal with REALLY badly behaved children and the methods she uses, which are widely used today, really work.
I am not saying we dont need to be firm and discipline our children, but why use violent methods if we dont have to?
Some children who are hit a lot can become resentful fearful and angry and this will stay inside until at some pont it may well emerge and cause lots of problems for them and those around them.

Spanking isn't violent, abuse is violent.  It is discipline and it is mentioned favorably in God's Word.  My children are small.  I can't reason with them with words.  They understand a good swat.  I'll take God's Word over Super Nanny.  I don't want to spank my children when I'm cross, I want to do it without being angry, crossing the line happens when one is too angry.

We all have to do what we think it best of course, but God gives us people with childcare experience to give us help and hints along the way, just as he gives us help with all issues in life.

What worries me is that some families us this violent (and I believe any physical hitting beating or whatever is violent) method for every little misdemeanor when  surely it should only ever be used for the really bad behaviour.(if at all)
I watched a programme once about three families (two in the USA and one in the UK) who all used swatches, willow tree branches or whatever to hit their chilldren 'in love', but they used it daily, for everythng that their children EVER did wrong, and it made me feel like weeping to see it. As a Christian it totally went against the grain, and I knew that I could never do that to my children.
I was ALWAYS  firm and consistant with my kids, but there are so many ways to correct them that I believe that hitting is useless and unnessessary.Maybe some families such as these, who use this so much need to give a bit more thought to using alternative methods far more often, rather than thinking that only thing one thing works and nothing else will do.
 
My youngest child, a daughter, was smacked no more than 4 or 5 times in her whole life(and I regreted it each time) and she is a lovely young lady.

Where do you draw the line. If someone is hit several times with a belt,as my husband was for his punishment, that is abuse to me. Is one smack allowed? Is two or three? Is hitting with a cane/swat allowed according to others? Where do you stop. If smacking isnt violent, when does it become violent? I cant see the difference.I can only remember one occasion being smacked when I was small and I grew up to be a normal, kind, very honest and decent person (I hope!)
If we hit someone in the street we would quite rightly be arrested and charged with assult, so why is it allowed with children, who are so small compared to us.

I am just very grateful that God doesnt see fit to hit or beat me, as his child. everytime I make a mistake or I, and most peole probably, would be black and blue. His way is to gently lead and encourage and guide and lead by example, not to be violent or demanding.Yes he does discipline us, but not by forcing us or by using fear or punishment, but by drawing us with love and consistantly showing us the right way.

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Re: Spank Me Please Mommy and Daddy!
« Reply #46 on: Thu Sep 25, 2008 - 23:11:09 »
I don't see how your post jives with scripture.  I think it does the opposite.

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« Reply #47 on: Thu Sep 25, 2008 - 23:27:54 »
Proverbs 13:24

He who spares the rod hates his son,  but he who loves him is careful to discipline him.

Proverbs 23:13,14

Do not withhold discipline from a child; if you punish him with the rod, he will not die.
Punish him with the rod and save his soul from death.

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« Reply #48 on: Fri Sep 26, 2008 - 03:07:52 »
Proverbs 13:24

He who spares the rod hates his son,  but he who loves him is careful to discipline him.

Proverbs 23:13,14

Do not withhold discipline from a child; if you punish him with the rod, he will not die.
Punish him with the rod and save his soul from death.


well, 2 of my children are Christians and the third is getitng there, so I guess they are saved from death., in the only way that they can be saved from death, through Christ.

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« Reply #49 on: Fri Sep 26, 2008 - 05:45:30 »
Proverbs are just general wise advice sayings, not commandments.  No one should hit a child with a rod.

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« Reply #50 on: Fri Sep 26, 2008 - 11:37:38 »
Proverbs are just general wise advice sayings, not commandments.  No one should hit a child with a rod.

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They are not strict commandments, but they are wise sayings, AND scripture.  You can either believe what they say or not.  Choice is up to you.  I believe them.

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« Reply #51 on: Fri Sep 26, 2008 - 12:06:11 »
The modern equivilant of a rod is a metal bar.  Are you seriously going to advocate hitting a child with something like this?  I will tell you now, if I find out anyone is using a rod to hit a child with, they had better hope the police get there before I do.

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« Reply #52 on: Fri Sep 26, 2008 - 12:08:26 »
The modern equivilant of a rod is a metal bar.  Are you seriously going to advocate hitting a child with something like this?  I will tell you now, if I find out anyone is using a rod to hit a child with, they had better hope the police get there before I do.

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No, I don't use a metal bar.  Tell me, are you against corporal punishment?

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« Reply #53 on: Fri Sep 26, 2008 - 12:12:20 »
The proverbs are there as instruction and to guide us in all things concerning God and life.

If you cannot trust the Proverbs, then you certainly can't trust some "Child care professional" who got their education at some liberal college that probably never mentioned a Holy and righteous God to them in the FOUR years they learned to care for the child that GOD GAVE TO YOU to raise.

Putting the responsibility of "experience" and "guidance" for our children's future and eternity on to someone we don't know, educated by someone we never met, so that we can take our hands off of what God gave us to to do is very irresponsible.

I had a respected, published Dr tell me once... "No one is more of an expert with your child than you"...  which says it all for me.  Child care people don't tell me how to raise my child, I tell them.

And if a spanking is violence in your home, then you have no business spanking your child, you need to realize that you did not take GOD'S FULL counsel into consideration and go back to the drawing board.  

The "ROD" ...   was not the STAFF or LARGE STICK that you spank with.. it was as a switch... a reed or stalk of growth by the side of the river...    And I know from experience as a child, a rod or switch on the buttock of a kid with pants on, will make them jump... it's not abuse.   It stings...  but not nearly as much as the sting of spiritual death will should you neglect to be the parent that God has called you to be in life.  People need to grow up.  

A few years ago... We had a great uproar about the American kid who was getting spanked in Singapore for his crimes...  Hey...  if you go to Singapore where they cane you, you don't need a gun to walk the streets at night.  The parental respect is off the charts.  Just a thought.

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« Reply #54 on: Fri Sep 26, 2008 - 12:14:12 »
The modern equivilant of a rod is a metal bar.  Are you seriously going to advocate hitting a child with something like this?  I will tell you now, if I find out anyone is using a rod to hit a child with, they had better hope the police get there before I do.

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That is bunk... is that what a rod for spanking is to you?  Would you not look up what "rod" meant and how to get one?  You would just take the word that because we make steal rods today, that is your option for spanking your child?  Some realistic thinking would be nice... a switch is the modern equivalent to the "rod" we speak of in proverbs...   balance here people, balance.

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« Reply #55 on: Fri Sep 26, 2008 - 12:16:09 »
Those scriptures do speak in terms of masculine - so, beat the sons but not the daughters.

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« Reply #56 on: Fri Sep 26, 2008 - 12:17:17 »
zoonance... how do you justify that compared to the WORD saying that there is NEITHER Male nor Female, Gentile or Jew in the LORD?

Seems to correct your theology on spanking only males.

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« Reply #57 on: Fri Sep 26, 2008 - 12:19:05 »
WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS... why do people pull out the ridiculous to explain the simple? 

"the Rod" is  a "steal rod".... and "spank males only".... we act like we have no reasoning power of our own, we speak as robots.   ::frustrated::

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« Reply #58 on: Fri Sep 26, 2008 - 12:23:24 »
zoonance... how do you justify that compared to the WORD saying that there is NEITHER Male nor Female, Gentile or Jew in the LORD?

Seems to correct your theology on spanking only males.



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« Reply #59 on: Fri Sep 26, 2008 - 12:28:00 »
The modern equivilant of a rod is a metal bar.  Are you seriously going to advocate hitting a child with something like this?  I will tell you now, if I find out anyone is using a rod to hit a child with, they had better hope the police get there before I do.

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No, I don't use a metal bar.  Tell me, are you against corporal punishment?

No, I'm not. I don't use anything but my hand, and one swat is all that is needed.

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« Reply #60 on: Fri Sep 26, 2008 - 12:40:09 »
WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS... why do people pull out the ridiculous to explain the simple? 

"the Rod" is  a "steal rod".... and "spank males only".... we act like we have no reasoning power of our own, we speak as robots.   ::frustrated::
It's spelled "steel".

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« Reply #61 on: Fri Sep 26, 2008 - 12:44:34 »
WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS... why do people pull out the ridiculous to explain the simple? 

"the Rod" is  a "steal rod".... and "spank males only".... we act like we have no reasoning power of our own, we speak as robots.   ::frustrated::
It's spelled "steele".

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Sopranette



Make the kids watch Remington Steele?   That is cruel!

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« Reply #62 on: Fri Sep 26, 2008 - 12:47:09 »
WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS... why do people pull out the ridiculous to explain the simple? 

"the Rod" is  a "steal rod".... and "spank males only".... we act like we have no reasoning power of our own, we speak as robots.   ::frustrated::
It's spelled "steele".

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It's spelled "steel."

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« Reply #63 on: Fri Sep 26, 2008 - 19:26:51 »
WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS... why do people pull out the ridiculous to explain the simple? 

"the Rod" is  a "steal rod".... and "spank males only".... we act like we have no reasoning power of our own, we speak as robots.   ::frustrated::
It's spelled "steele".

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It's spelled "steel."

Thanks Gary... sometimes I type faster than I think... 

But, THAT is funny. 

And,  no matter how it is correctly spelled, taking the term literally in this day and age of education and information is just NUTS!   rofl
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Re: Spank Me Please Mommy and Daddy!
« Reply #64 on: Fri Sep 26, 2008 - 19:27:41 »
zoonance... how do you justify that compared to the WORD saying that there is NEITHER Male nor Female, Gentile or Jew in the LORD?

Seems to correct your theology on spanking only males.



I only answer because you honestly do not recognize my humor.   I truly apologize for embarrassing you.   ::kissing::




Oh... too funny... but I'm not embarrassed.. truly.   


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Re: Spank Me Please Mommy and Daddy!
« Reply #65 on: Sat Sep 27, 2008 - 10:34:22 »
The modern equivilant of a rod is a metal bar.  Are you seriously going to advocate hitting a child with something like this?  I will tell you now, if I find out anyone is using a rod to hit a child with, they had better hope the police get there before I do.

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  Did you ever read the Psalms where David wrote:  "Thy rod and they staff, they comfort me."?  The rod and staff were used to give direction, to pull the lambs back from danger.  They were used to beat predators...
Shepherds did not use the rod to beat their sheep.

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Re: Spank Me Please Mommy and Daddy!
« Reply #66 on: Sat Sep 27, 2008 - 14:18:38 »
The modern equivilant of a rod is a metal bar.  Are you seriously going to advocate hitting a child with something like this?  I will tell you now, if I find out anyone is using a rod to hit a child with, they had better hope the police get there before I do.

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  Did you ever read the Psalms where David wrote:  "Thy rod and they staff, they comfort me."?  The rod and staff were used to give direction, to pull the lambs back from danger.  They were used to beat predators...
Shepherds did not use the rod to beat their sheep.

Thank you SO MUCH for posting this, I was going to post this very same thing. They didnt hit their sheep, only used the rod to guide them if they were going off track. They didnt beat them, so how come we are suppose to beat/hit our kids?

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Re: Spank Me Please Mommy and Daddy!
« Reply #67 on: Sat Sep 27, 2008 - 14:43:23 »
The modern equivilant of a rod is a metal bar.  Are you seriously going to advocate hitting a child with something like this?  I will tell you now, if I find out anyone is using a rod to hit a child with, they had better hope the police get there before I do.

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  Did you ever read the Psalms where David wrote:  "Thy rod and they staff, they comfort me."?  The rod and staff were used to give direction, to pull the lambs back from danger.  They were used to beat predators...
Shepherds did not use the rod to beat their sheep.

Thank you SO MUCH for posting this, I was going to post this very same thing. They didnt hit their sheep, only used the rod to guide them if they were going off track. They didnt beat them, so how come we are suppose to beat/hit our kids?

Beating and spanking are different.  Like I said before, if you want to go by Super Nanny, by all means go ahead.  I believe that the bible speaks of physical discipline and while my kids are young, I will use it.

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Re: Spank Me Please Mommy and Daddy!
« Reply #68 on: Sat Sep 27, 2008 - 14:44:55 »
The modern equivilant of a rod is a metal bar.  Are you seriously going to advocate hitting a child with something like this?  I will tell you now, if I find out anyone is using a rod to hit a child with, they had better hope the police get there before I do.

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  Did you ever read the Psalms where David wrote:  "Thy rod and they staff, they comfort me."?  The rod and staff were used to give direction, to pull the lambs back from danger.  They were used to beat predators...
Shepherds did not use the rod to beat their sheep.

Would you spank your children to prevent them from getting hurt really badly.  To keep them from playing with the stove or a knife, etc?  Are you for or against corporal punishment?

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Re: Spank Me Please Mommy and Daddy!
« Reply #69 on: Sat Sep 27, 2008 - 14:46:12 »
The problem is that we have lost the distinction between appropriate physical correction and physical abuse, so that the first is assumed by many to be automatically the second.  That is, to use the technical, psychological term, hogwash.

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