God does not work through religious people because they do not know Jesus but I'd agree that he may use some of them. Jesus works through born again Christians. You can’t choose to be a Christian and religious at the same time. You have to choose. Jesus said he has done everything to save me and I do not need to do anything because it is HIS grace. Religion said I have to do a list of things to be saved and that is a heresy. Jesus was never a religious person. I found that very disgusting and deceptive that you would say such a thing. All born again Christians have HIS authority. People need to be delivered from religious Spirits. They are in bondage because they follow false traditions and man-made rules.
Jesus followed the tenets of the religion that God himself created, so let me get this straight: with that thought in mind, people who obey the tenets of a religion are: a) religious or b) not religious?
Also was there a time in your life when you considered yourself to not be saved? Are you saved now? Did Jesus die on the cross for you during that time? Or what happened that suddenly made you saved?
Religion steals your joy because religion says you must do a list of things to be accepted and then you realize that you’re a sinner and can’t always do the right thing so then you feel depressed that you can’t be perfect like Jesus or it makes you so proud that you’re better than others. Both ways lead to sin!
Is rejecting religion
on a list of things that a person needs to do to be "accepted", in your view?
Was Jesus promoting religion when he said "Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect."? Was Jesus trying to steal people's joy and make them feel depressed? Which is more like what Jesus taught, a religion which encourages us to "be perfect" or one that says that trying to be perfect should be rejected because it "steals your joy"?
Being prideful and thinking one is better than others has a remedy, and it is the sacrament of confession. Perhaps Protestants have this problem more than faithful Catholics because they rejected that beautiful sacrament.
You can’t preach the gospel and be religious. Religious people usually care about rituals and traditions. They do not deliver the good news. They deliver their rules and traditions. It is powerless. They do not witness to others.
In your opinion.
“We "recrucify" Jesus every time we fall away. Hebrews 6:6. That doesn't make us antichrist. That defies the biblical definition of antichrist as well.”
You do not have to worry about that if you’re HIS Child.
On the contrary, one cannot fall away
unless he is first HIS child.
“Read the lives of the saints, and tell me that they had no joy. Preposterous.”
It is because the saints are never religious.
All the saints who I read, who all are filled with a joy beyond understanding, are very loyal followers of their religion. St. Catherine of Siena, your own favorite whipping girl for all that is wrong with religion, suffered terribly in her life, and she did it all with joy.SAINT CATHERINE OF SIENA VIRGIN (d. 1380)
Reality doesn't match your beliefs. Apparently that isn't a problem for you?
“Religion, however, keeps people unstained by the world, (James 1:27) and is a support against sin which is the real thing that leads into bondage and blocks true freedom.”
Religion is a tool of Satan to blind people. It makes you a slave.
That's not what the Bible says. Apparently that isn't a problem for you.
“Actually, 2 Timothy 3:5 warns us to avoid people who make a pretense of religion but deny its power. That is not the same as rejecting religion. In fact it is a confirmation that religion has power, and we should avoid people who say it doesn't.”
The real bible I have, the King James bible, does not use the word religion in 2 Timothy 3:5 not sure which bible you’re reading but anyway it does not say religion has power there. If it has power then it is not of God. We have so many religions in the world.
Your friend, Kimberly Daniels, seems to think that 2 Timothy 3:5 is about religion in the article you cut and pasted:
7. Religion creates a form of godliness through regimen and repetition. Second Timothy 3:5 warns us to avoid people with forms of godliness.
Was biblical Judaism, which God created, a "form of godliness" with "regimen and repetition"? If you think not, then you haven't read the Torah. Just because something has regimen and repetition doesn't make it a false form of godliness.
“A true worshiper who actually reads the New Testament would see that Jesus is actually proclaiming a very unrealistic standard. We are unable to do this by ourselves, which is why we need all the help we can get by God. Jesus wants us to be just like him, and many times the NT writers tell us to "be Holy just as our Father in heaven is holy". That is a high standard.
People living in the flesh want to lower that standard so that they don't have to strive to live up to it. But we know in the gospels that we are to "Strive to enter through the narrow gate".”
Yes we have to walk in holiness because God is Holy. God empowers us to walk in the Spirit. We are predestined to be holy. Sanctification is a process. It does not save me. I’m already perfect in Christ. He washed ALL of my sins.
If you were already perfect, then you wouldn't need to be sanctified. People are forgiven of sins by Christ, but that is not the same thing as being perfect. How can you not see this? Am I blind to think that someone who needs sanctification is not perfect? Is becoming more perfect possible? That defies the definition of "perfect".
1. having all the required or desirable elements, qualities, or characteristics; as good as it is possible to be.
“We can obey the commandments of God with God's help. And to say otherwise is an easy road straight to hell. The road is hard, and at times we feel like we fail. Jesus gave us communion with each other to help each other on the way. He stays with us always, and in a particular way through the sacrament of the Eucharist, helps us to never give up and not succumb to evil religious spirits who are a perversion of true religion.”
I’m saved to serve him. Religious people claim you must obey to be saved which is a lie.
What you are saying is the lie. Here is the "real" KJV Bible to demonstrate:
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth
the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness
Even if I break ALL commandments in this book, I will not fall away from grace.
Another lie. If you do so, you will be cut off from the true vine.
1 I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
2 Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
3 Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.
4 Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
5 I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.
6 If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.
7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.
8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.
9As the Father hath loved me, so have I loved you: continue ye in my love.
10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
11 These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full.
Here Jesus says that if you keep his commandments AS he has kept his Father's commandments, you abide in his love, and if you do not abide in him, you are case forth and thrown into the fire and burned.
There are no such things as sacraments. The word of God is more important to me than a ritual. The Eucharist cannot be Christ’s blood. Sorry if it offends you but that is the truth. You’re deceived.
So how do we eat Christ's flesh and drink Christ's blood as commanded in John 6? The answer is in Luke 22:19-20:
19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me.
20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.
This cup IS the new testament. You haven't comprehended the new testament unless you have experienced the Eucharist with faith. The Eucharist IS the new testament.
More evidence, Matthew 26:
26 And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body
27 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it;
28 For this is my blood
of the new testament
, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
“Yes, striving to become more holy means that we are hypocrites from time to time. But not striving to be holy is a sure path to hell.”
I’m not sure what you’re trying to say here.
That's probably because you deleted the context in which I was replying. Your friend Kimberly said:
9. Religion stems from the root of spiritual schizophrenia. One minute the people blessed the name of the Lord and cried, “Hosanna to the Highest!” In another breath they yelled, “Crucify Him!”Striving
to be holy, which Jesus commands
, means that at one time we are glorifying God, and at another we are sinning. Do you believe that Jesus died for our sins? So because YOU sinned, Jesus died. Every time you sin, are you thankful that Jesus was crucified for your sins? Are you not also very thankful that people did yell "crucify him"? Would you say that they shouldn't have yelled "crucify him?" If they hadn't, you wouldn't be saved. In fact, it would be best for you, if you had been there, to be someone encouraging
others to yell "crucify him!" Kimberly seems to think this is "spiritual schizophrenia" and attributes this to religion. Well, you should be thankful for religion then!
As an aside, Kimberly should look up the definition of schizophrenia. What she means is "multiple personality disorder".