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Re: Ask a pentecostal
« Reply #105 on: March 22, 2008, 10:01:37 AM »

I don't think the canonization of the Bible has anything to do with it either.  What man has chosen or not chosen to canonize certainly has no effect on what God does period.  Man could have only one page of Malachi left over and  God will still do what He wants to do and what He always does.



I agree.  But, have also come to believe many of the gifts aren't used because we aren't trying.  Many are turned off by the speaking in tongues and don't try for some of the other gifts such as healing or prophecy.  Do nonpenecostals research, study and seek some of the gifts other than tongues?  I'm not saying tongues is wrong but some of us are introverts and or shy.  Do we give up to soon?

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Re: Ask a pentecostal
« Reply #106 on: March 22, 2008, 11:20:00 AM »

I don't think the canonization of the Bible has anything to do with it either.  What man has chosen or not chosen to canonize certainly has no effect on what God does period.  Man could have only one page of Malachi left over and  God will still do what He wants to do and what He always does.



I agree.  But, have also come to believe many of the gifts aren't used because we aren't trying.  Many are turned off by the speaking in tongues and don't try for some of the other gifts such as healing or prophecy.  Do nonpenecostals research, study and seek some of the gifts other than tongues?  I'm not saying tongues is wrong but some of us are introverts and or shy.  Do we give up to soon?

I believe tongues are other languages, not gibberish, and that the use of tongues has a purpose.  For instance, in Acts 2 folks heard Peter speaking the gospel in their own languages.  When everyone speaks the same language, what is the purpose of tongues going to be?

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Re: Ask a pentecostal
« Reply #107 on: March 22, 2008, 05:18:36 PM »
The Expositor's Bible Commentary speaks of the tongues at Pentecost as being languages and the tongues in 1Corinthians 12-14 as ecstatic utterances.  I agree.  Pentecost tongues was immediately understood as being a language but in Corinthians no one could understand. 

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« Reply #108 on: March 22, 2008, 07:06:34 PM »
Did the Pentecostal movement begin out of the Holiness movement? In Los Angeles there is a church on Azusa Street that is believed to be the birthplace of the Pentecostal movement. Is that true?


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« Reply #109 on: September 22, 2008, 11:44:02 PM »
Wow, this thread died a sudden death.

Yes, the Azusa Street Revival took place in LA in 1906.  At a private home, I believe, not a church building.

Holiness Movement was a major influence, also an offshoot of Methodism.

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« Reply #110 on: October 27, 2008, 04:23:14 PM »
when in history was scripture first interpreted in a way that would suggest that baptism of the Holy Spirit was somehow seperate from water baptism? please provide footnotes and sources of the proofs you state, thank you. I am not asking you for biblical quotes, I am asking you for history outside of scripture and who taught it and when.

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Re: Ask a pentecostal
« Reply #111 on: October 28, 2008, 01:48:47 PM »
Here's another one: Why do some Pentecostal churches hold classes on how to speak in tongues?
I'm a Pentecostal and I believe what there doing is very wrong, I allso know many Pastors would disagree with it.

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Re: Ask a pentecostal
« Reply #112 on: October 28, 2008, 10:34:49 PM »
The Expositor's Bible Commentary speaks of the tongues at Pentecost as being languages and the tongues in 1Corinthians 12-14 as ecstatic utterances.  I agree.  Pentecost tongues was immediately understood as being a language but in Corinthians no one could understand. 
Nah...the tongues in 1Cor are also known intelligible languages.  They just couldn't understand because there was no interpreter.

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« Reply #113 on: October 29, 2008, 02:01:58 PM »
The Expositor's Bible Commentary speaks of the tongues at Pentecost as being languages and the tongues in 1Corinthians 12-14 as ecstatic utterances.  I agree.  Pentecost tongues was immediately understood as being a language but in Corinthians no one could understand. 
Both are used, When some missionaries went to foreign County for example Japan, The missionary even though they did not speak in Japanese. The people would tell them they understood everything that was being said. Then there is another type of language that happens which sounds sort of like Hebrew. It strictly is for edification of the church. For the best understanding read 1 Corinthians 14:6-22, And especially verses 26,27,28

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« Reply #114 on: November 09, 2008, 12:33:17 AM »
I grew up in the pentecostal church and was their from my birth till the age of about 27, and I do believe that all should be baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus, because that is the way we are taught to do so in the Word. But one of the reasons I left the pentecostal church was because they taught that you didnt have the Holy Spirit unless you have spoken in tongues, which I believe to be completely unbiblical. So my question is, do you believe this to be true, tongues as the evidence and where is biblical evidence for this belief?

sorry if this has already been addressed but I didnt want to read through every single post on this thread to find out, I skimmed and didnt find it so here I am ::smile::.

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« Reply #115 on: November 09, 2008, 03:03:22 PM »
I grew up in the pentecostal church and was their from my birth till the age of about 27, and I do believe that all should be baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus, because that is the way we are taught to do so in the Word. But one of the reasons I left the pentecostal church was because they taught that you didnt have the Holy Spirit unless you have spoken in tongues, which I believe to be completely unbiblical. So my question is, do you believe this to be true, tongues as the evidence and where is biblical evidence for this belief?

sorry if this has already been addressed but I didnt want to read through every single post on this thread to find out, I skimmed and didnt find it so here I am ::smile::.

God Bless
I was a deacon for awhile and studied the ten fundamental truths and that is one area like you I did not agree with. And I still don't, I believe it happens, but in scripture it does not say all will receive it. Check out 1 Corinthians 14: 5. It said somewhere else that not all will receive the gift of tongues but right now I do not remember where it is found. There is another reason that the Pentecostal church believe this but it goes back awhile and I really don't want to get in to that it is very long and involved happening. I have pointed this out to many times and there is many others who don't except this teaching either. There is times it happens but to me not all the time. I do believe in tongues but, just not they way it is taught.

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Re: Ask a pentecostal
« Reply #116 on: November 10, 2008, 06:38:54 AM »
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i believe every christian must speak in tongue as a evidence of the baptism of the holy ghost because the early christians experienced it all were filled with the holy ghost and spoke in tongues.
I think all that is needed of us is to desire it. and our father in heaven, the giver of all good and perfect gift will give it to us.

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« Reply #117 on: November 10, 2008, 08:26:21 AM »
::nodding::
i believe every christian must speak in tongue as a evidence of the baptism of the holy ghost because the early christians experienced it all were filled with the holy ghost and spoke in tongues.
I think all that is needed of us is to desire it. and our father in heaven, the giver of all good and perfect gift will give it to us.
I struggle with the part that states it as if you must speak in tongues or you have not received the baptism of The Holy Spirit, That is the part I struggle with.
The other thing that bothers me is when they say ask a Pentecostal. The gifts of the Spirit are for everybody of the Church Jesus is the head of, not any one denomination. God Bless You.

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« Reply #118 on: November 10, 2008, 08:39:46 AM »
I grew up in the pentecostal church and was their from my birth till the age of about 27, and I do believe that all should be baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus, because that is the way we are taught to do so in the Word. But one of the reasons I left the pentecostal church was because they taught that you didnt have the Holy Spirit unless you have spoken in tongues, which I believe to be completely unbiblical. So my question is, do you believe this to be true, tongues as the evidence and where is biblical evidence for this belief?

sorry if this has already been addressed but I didnt want to read through every single post on this thread to find out, I skimmed and didnt find it so here I am ::smile::.

God Bless

I believe that tongues is a gift of the Holy Spirit but not all receive it or have to receive- as the bible says each is given his/her own gifts and there are many and none is greater then another because we are all members of one body and each part is needed to make a whole!

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Re: Ask a pentecostal
« Reply #119 on: November 10, 2008, 08:40:31 AM »
::nodding::
i believe every christian must speak in tongue as a evidence of the baptism of the holy ghost because the early christians experienced it all were filled with the holy ghost and spoke in tongues.
I think all that is needed of us is to desire it. and our father in heaven, the giver of all good and perfect gift will give it to us.
I struggle with the part that states it as if you must speak in tongues or you have not received the baptism of The Holy Spirit, That is the part I struggle with.
The other thing that bothers me is when they say ask a Pentecostal. The gifts of the Spirit are for everybody of the Church Jesus is the head of, not any one denomination. God Bless You.

 ::amen!::