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Re: Ask a pentecostal
« Reply #140 on: Sat Jan 03, 2009 - 05:20:29 »
By your remark    you do care  and  you don't really know    and then you say it isn't God


And then you call what you don't know sheer stupidity and a whole lot of nonsense



And you definitely got one of the most outrageous video's  to discredit all Holy Ghost laughter and manifestations
I have seen a whole lot of manifestations in my time and have experienced them as well 
The soul can react to the spirit    and Demons can rise to the surface and need to be cast out


The dog collar and howling like a wolf was just crazy in my opinion      I would feel uncomfortable in that meeting   as I saw it as a willfull choice to carry it out

   
One or more fake ones should not discredit what is from God            and you do get all sorts happening in a Holy Ghost service


  






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« Reply #141 on: Sat Jan 03, 2009 - 05:31:41 »
By your remark    you do care  and  you don't really know    and then you say it isn't God


And then you call what you don't know sheer stupidity and a whole lot of nonsense



And you definitely got one of the most outrageous video's  to discredit all Holy Ghost laughter and manifestations
I have seen a whole lot of manifestations in my time and have experienced them as well 
The soul can react to the spirit    and Demons can rise to the surface and need to be cast out


The dog collar and howling like a wolf was just crazy in my opinion      I would feel uncomfortable in that meeting   as I saw it as a willfull choice to carry it out

   
One or more fake ones should not discredit what is from God            and you do get all sorts happening in a Holy Ghost service


  
That video wasn't "fake".  And when you say "...the soul  can rise to the spirit and demons can rise to the surface...."  Huh??  What on earth are you talking about?  This just sounds like typical super spiritual Pentecostal made up gibberish.  The same kind of gibberish as "busting the heavens" and "anointing fires" and all the other super creepy pseudo spiritual hoo ha that is so typical of  Pentecostal weirdos.

Dude, you need some serious de-programming.






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Re: Ask a pentecostal
« Reply #142 on: Sat Jan 03, 2009 - 13:19:59 »
What am I talking about       stuff that you may not  have any experience with   


I know the video wasn't  "fake"        but like you I do doubt that it was the Holy Spirit in all of it  so what spirit was it  or was it just there soulish issues rising to the surface


They made a willful choice to put a dog collar on him    and a willfull choice to howl like a wolf

so lets leave that video out for the next few lines     

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Its all about when the Kingdom that comes upon  that people love or hate       That's when things get intresting

Busting the heavens is very simple    Its using the Kingdom within to release the Kingdom that comes upon     You have to tarry for that authority    This shifts the spiritual climate    where there is demonic resistance limiting the presence of God

You go into the spirit and take dominion and release the Kingdom of God that comes upon      First you have to do it around your own life before you can step into a coroperate setting and release it in there   

Its your authority in the spirit realm that is recognised when you step into that place


When you have that authority you can start to release what is in heaven to earth    The Joy or laughter is the provision from the Lord in heavenly places coming to earth to shift mindsets and break of depression   It is also a supernatural strength that is deposited into a believers life that they never had before   You have to get it in the spirit 

Our father who art in heaven   ........... They kingdom come thy will be done on earth  As It Is In HEAVEN


The devil hates it so discredits it by trying to cause problems     and demons do rise up to the surface that have to be dealt with      soulish issues have to be repented off as well

The religious spirit that doesn't go in and hinders those who are entering  is one of the most devastating ones out there limiting the power of God  flowing to earth     


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Re: Ask a pentecostal
« Reply #143 on: Sat Jan 03, 2009 - 13:21:46 »
so if it wasn't the Holy Spirit then what spirit was it?

Possibly self-delusion.

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Re: Ask a pentecostal
« Reply #144 on: Sat Jan 03, 2009 - 13:28:05 »
so if it wasn't the Holy Spirit then what spirit was it?

Possibly self-delusion.
From the soul   or a spirit of deception ?

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Re: Ask a pentecostal
« Reply #145 on: Sat Jan 03, 2009 - 16:01:39 »

That video wasn't "fake".  And when you say "...the soul  can rise to the spirit and demons can rise to the surface...."  Huh??  What on earth are you talking about?  This just sounds like typical super spiritual Pentecostal made up gibberish.  The same kind of gibberish as "busting the heavens" and "anointing fires" and all the other super creepy pseudo spiritual hoo ha that is so typical of  Pentecostal weirdos.

Dude, you need some serious de-programming.






I am new to this christian forum, but when I read something like this, with words like dude, than I get scared of it. So I see it, this is a thread where you have to be polite...I mean we are all christians, right!? I guess, we are....and we are all adults, i guess.....so we can talk about topics in a serious and polite way.

And with the things you tell here you affect not only one person, you affect lots of christians...your brothers and sisters i guess, right!?

So be nicer, please  ::frown::

and I think that this discussion will lead to nothing...
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Re: Ask a pentecostal
« Reply #146 on: Sat Jan 03, 2009 - 19:27:00 »
Can anybody tell me what is the difference between pentecostal church and charismatic church? My homechurch is a charismatic church, but the church I was in the last year (I moved for one year) is a pentecostal church and the only difference I saw was, that the pentecostal church was more conservative...but I think it also depends on in what pentecostal church you are in,

 so finally: what is the difference?

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« Reply #147 on: Tue Jan 06, 2009 - 07:21:50 »
Can anybody tell me what is the difference between pentecostal church and charismatic church? My homechurch is a charismatic church, but the church I was in the last year (I moved for one year) is a pentecostal church and the only difference I saw was, that the pentecostal church was more conservative...but I think it also depends on in what pentecostal church you are in,

 so finally: what is the difference?

I think "Pentacostal" is an actual denomination, whereas there are many denominations that have charismatic movements within them. There are Charismatic Catholics too.

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Re: Ask a pentecostal
« Reply #148 on: Tue Jan 06, 2009 - 20:47:37 »
Thanks I know.
Only for example my church is a charismatic church...not bpatist charismatic, cathlic charismatic or etc...
more like pentecostal...in there are a lot of churches which are "only" charismatic churches... maybe it is really kind of the same  ::smile::

thanks for your answer  ::smile::

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Re: Ask a pentecostal
« Reply #149 on: Tue Jan 13, 2009 - 17:14:20 »
I've attended a Pentecostal church in Central America.  The service was basically the same as a non-denominational type service here in the States.  A few songs, a message with an alter call (though not everytime), some prayer and a few more songs.  It was only when they had a special speaker that I saw someone put their hands on anothers head - then that someone sort of fell backwards.  They stood right back up and kept praying.  They didn't stay on the floor rolling around, etc.  I took it to be symbolic of dying with Christ.  They did have water baptism as well. 

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Re: Ask a pentecostal
« Reply #150 on: Tue Jan 13, 2009 - 17:24:01 »
I've attended a Pentecostal church in Central America.  The service was basically the same as a non-denominational type service here in the States.  A few songs, a message with an alter call (though not everytime), some prayer and a few more songs.  It was only when they had a special speaker that I saw someone put their hands on anothers head - then that someone sort of fell backwards.  They stood right back up and kept praying.  They didn't stay on the floor rolling around, etc.  I took it to be symbolic of dying with Christ.  They did have water baptism as well. 
No    it is the power of God slaying them in the Spirit    Now when that spiritual door stays open for longer they do roll around on the floor     God is picky who he lands on   

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Re: Ask a pentecostal
« Reply #151 on: Wed Jan 21, 2009 - 10:35:01 »
The definition from slain or slay is

: to delight or amuse immensely

If a person is touched by the Holy Spirit in such a way they could be in delight of that moment.
Not to sound earthly but if you have ever seen someone drunk they are slain by there alcohol which makes them unable to talk as they usually would or even walk.
This definition can also explain why Pentecostals see people run around in the church when impressed by the Holy Spirit.

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Re: Ask a pentecostal
« Reply #152 on: Wed Jan 21, 2009 - 21:28:31 »
Do you believe that the miraculous gifts of the Spirit ceased, and then were reinstated in "the last days" which we are now in?

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« Reply #153 on: Tue Jan 27, 2009 - 16:25:35 »
I have only witness once someone being slain in the Spirit...never experienced it myself...but..

If God were to suddenly open us up and expose us to His infinite glory and majesty, none of us could handle it. It would completely overwhelm us and overpower us. Our systems might shut down at the enormity of it, and we wouldn't be able to stand up under it or bear it. God is so much bigger than any of us are capable of comprehending, and God is probably protecting us by not revealing the fullness of Himself to us while we are in our weak, mortal bodies. So when the awesome power of God touches a person in a special way, it can easily cause a physical reaction in the frail human body and the frail human nervous system. People's hands or bodies might shake, their knees might get weak or wobbly, they might fall to the ground, and so on. Those of us who have never experienced the Holy Spirit in such a tangible way might think that a person is faking this or is demonized or something, which can sometimes be the case. However, the power of God is real, and God sometimes "touches" people in special ways.

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« Reply #154 on: Tue Jan 27, 2009 - 17:10:05 »
Amen Grace     ::smile::

Its the Coming upon of the Kingdom    that does it    Sometimes you can actually feel the heavens open and it is like a gentle wind     and other times it like a sudden weight that causes your legs to buckle or you get thrown backwards

depending upon the angle it comes 

Not all get it    so there is a lot of missunderstanding   This is removed when they come into it   Lets say another veil is removed as we go from glory to glory

When you get used to it you can start to perceive what it came upon   What word was been spoken or what words or word in the song where being sung    Its a spiritual door in heaven opening at that time

If you can discern the door then you can enter it    if you cant , then you will just perceive it as a touch from the Lord

When you enter that door you then can release that to earth as it is in heaven    You cant release it unless you hold the key to the door

By then finding out what word it was released upon you then need to go to the word of God later and get understanding  Now you have word and spirit coming together   So you can speak with authority like when Jesus stood up in the temple   You just step back into that spiritual door and speak the word of God    and that way you can release it to others    Now some will love it and some will hate it    Nothing has changed

Some one is going to get this   

And Grace I pray for the coming upon you and that you do get to be slain in the spirit     so that you would know  ::smile::

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Re: Ask a pentecostal
« Reply #155 on: Fri Feb 13, 2009 - 15:51:17 »
What is the difference between a Charismatic and a Pentecostal?

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Re: Ask a pentecostal
« Reply #156 on: Wed May 06, 2009 - 18:21:37 »
not much. Pentecostals are charismatic but not all Charismatics are pentecostal.

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Re: Ask a pentecostal
« Reply #157 on: Sat Jun 13, 2009 - 17:51:46 »
I just can't help it. Specially seeing as not many actually know what we believe.

So if you wanna know ask.

Other Pentecostal's are welcome to answer if they desire.
Why did God sent His Holy Spirit in a special way on Pentecost?

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« Reply #158 on: Sat Jun 20, 2009 - 09:34:38 »
I have only witness once someone being slain in the Spirit...never experienced it myself...but..

If God were to suddenly open us up and expose us to His infinite glory and majesty, none of us could handle it. It would completely overwhelm us and overpower us. Our systems might shut down at the enormity of it, and we wouldn't be able to stand up under it or bear it. God is so much bigger than any of us are capable of comprehending, and God is probably protecting us by not revealing the fullness of Himself to us while we are in our weak, mortal bodies. So when the awesome power of God touches a person in a special way, it can easily cause a physical reaction in the frail human body and the frail human nervous system. People's hands or bodies might shake, their knees might get weak or wobbly, they might fall to the ground, and so on. Those of us who have never experienced the Holy Spirit in such a tangible way might think that a person is faking this or is demonized or something, which can sometimes be the case. However, the power of God is real, and God sometimes "touches" people in special ways.


I was "revealed" so much in Oct '05 - if a psychiatrist had come over to my house I would have been diagnosed as psychotic for at least 5 hours. And why God "opened me up" to this experience I don't know -but my soil was tilled and ready is all I can imagine.   

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Re: Ask a pentecostal
« Reply #159 on: Sat Jul 11, 2009 - 23:11:28 »
i was slain in the spirit and came up speaking in tongues and i have been blessed for 25 yrs.  ::clappingoverhead::

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« Reply #160 on: Sun Jul 12, 2009 - 00:28:41 »
i was slain in the spirit and came up speaking in tongues and i have been blessed for 25 yrs.  ::clappingoverhead::

fenton,
Can you tell me about it ---you can pm me if you'd like to keep low key - and not  deal with doubters...I've only been speaking in tongues for 3 days!!  I'd love  to hear more.  :)

:) Elaine

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« Reply #161 on: Sun Mar 30, 2014 - 09:56:16 »
Here's another one: Why do some Pentecostal churches hold classes on how to speak in tongues?
Because they are not in the truth.

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« Reply #162 on: Sun Mar 30, 2014 - 10:02:09 »
Here's another: Do you believe, as some Pentecostals do, that the words "in the name of Jesus", or "in Jesus' name" must be said while you are being baptized in water, in order for your baptism to be valid?
I was baptized in the name of Jesus Christ. That covers it all. I do not concern myself with what others do.

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« Reply #163 on: Sun Mar 30, 2014 - 10:05:50 »
The History of your beginning? Just what movement did your church come from. What set your church at difference than others?
Jesus the Christ.

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« Reply #164 on: Sun Mar 30, 2014 - 10:11:00 »
Here's another: Do you believe, as some Pentecostals do, that the words "in the name of Jesus", or "in Jesus' name" must be said while you are being baptized in water, in order for your baptism to be valid?
No I don't.

Thanks for answering. Do you believe in the practice of being "slain in the spirit"? If so, what Scriptures, if any, would you use to support such a practice?
"slain in the spirit" is an expression that someone coined to express themselves to other Pentecostals.  I do not use this term.  It is not appropriate to me to describe a certain feeling of the Holy Ghost as "slain in the spirit" .

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« Reply #165 on: Sun Mar 30, 2014 - 10:28:28 »
OP question,

Renee and other Pentacostals,

Do you believe in the Trinity?   
What is the Trinity?

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« Reply #166 on: Sun Mar 30, 2014 - 10:34:30 »
Let us also not forget that the Jehovah's Witnesses are not Christian they are a cult.
Luke, Chapter 9
49:And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name; and we forbad him, because he followeth not with us.
50:And Jesus said unto him, Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us.

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« Reply #167 on: Sun Mar 30, 2014 - 10:54:15 »
OP question,

Renee and other Pentacostals,

Do you believe in the Trinity?   
What is the Trinity?


 How about going to the introduction section and telling us a little about yourself?

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« Reply #168 on: Sun Mar 30, 2014 - 11:06:48 »
OP question,

Renee and other Pentacostals,

Do you believe in the Trinity?   
What is the Trinity?


 How about going to the introduction section and telling us a little about yourself?
No thank you

 

     
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