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« Reply #15 on: September 18, 2007, 02:29:12 PM »

Here are some verses used to explin the term slain in the spirit.

Mt 17:6 When the disciples heard this, they fell facedown to the ground, terrified.
Mt 17:7 But Jesus came and touched them. “Get up,” he said. “Don’t be afraid.”
Mt 17:8 When they looked up, they saw no one except Jesus. (NIV)

2Ch 5:13 The trumpeters and singers joined in unison, as with one voice, to give praise and thanks to the LORD. Accompanied by trumpets, cymbals and other instruments, they raised their voices in praise to the LORD and sang:
“He is good; his love endures forever.” Then the temple of the LORD was filled with a cloud,
2Ch 5:14 and the priests could not perform their service because of the cloud, for the glory of the LORD filled the temple of God. (NIV)

Mt 28:4 The guards were so afraid of him that they shook and became like dead men. (NIV)

Ac 9:4 He fell to the ground and heard a voice say to him, “Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?”
Ac 9:5 “Who are you, Lord?” Saul asked. “I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting,” he replied.
Ac 9:6 “Now get up and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do.”
Ac 9:7 The men traveling with Saul stood there speechless; they heard the sound but did not see anyone.
Ac 9:8 Saul got up from the ground, but when he opened his eyes he could see nothing. So they led him by the hand into Damascus. (NIV)

I have never been slain in the Spirit, so I can give no personal info.

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« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2007, 08:35:30 PM »

Here are some verses used to explin the term slain in the spirit.

Mt 17:6 When the disciples heard this, they fell facedown to the ground, terrified.
Mt 17:7 But Jesus came and touched them. “Get up,” he said. “Don’t be afraid.”
Mt 17:8 When they looked up, they saw no one except Jesus. (NIV)

2Ch 5:13 The trumpeters and singers joined in unison, as with one voice, to give praise and thanks to the LORD. Accompanied by trumpets, cymbals and other instruments, they raised their voices in praise to the LORD and sang:
“He is good; his love endures forever.” Then the temple of the LORD was filled with a cloud,
2Ch 5:14 and the priests could not perform their service because of the cloud, for the glory of the LORD filled the temple of God. (NIV)

Mt 28:4 The guards were so afraid of him that they shook and became like dead men. (NIV)

Ac 9:4 He fell to the ground and heard a voice say to him, “Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?”
Ac 9:5 “Who are you, Lord?” Saul asked. “I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting,” he replied.
Ac 9:6 “Now get up and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do.”
Ac 9:7 The men traveling with Saul stood there speechless; they heard the sound but did not see anyone.
Ac 9:8 Saul got up from the ground, but when he opened his eyes he could see nothing. So they led him by the hand into Damascus. (NIV)

I have never been slain in the Spirit, so I can give no personal info.

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you beat me to it I was just getting ready to post them. Well I also found some in the ot if you would like them posted as well James.

There have been times when I felt so light I just fell. Some times I felt a heaviness. Some I just went down on my own. But all the time I had control over it. I could've refused and stayed on my feet. Consider the scripture The spirit of the prophet is subject to the prophet.
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« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2007, 11:00:22 PM »

Hmm.  Those Scriptures just seem to describe people in different situations where they were overcome with shock in reaction to incredible events.  It was simply their emotional responses to what happened.

I would never have thought it was anything beyond that.  I don't know, what do you think?
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« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2007, 11:50:27 PM »

Here are some verses used to explin the term slain in the spirit.

Mt 17:6 When the disciples heard this, they fell facedown to the ground, terrified.
Mt 17:7 But Jesus came and touched them. “Get up,” he said. “Don’t be afraid.”
Mt 17:8 When they looked up, they saw no one except Jesus. (NIV)

2Ch 5:13 The trumpeters and singers joined in unison, as with one voice, to give praise and thanks to the LORD. Accompanied by trumpets, cymbals and other instruments, they raised their voices in praise to the LORD and sang:
“He is good; his love endures forever.” Then the temple of the LORD was filled with a cloud,
2Ch 5:14 and the priests could not perform their service because of the cloud, for the glory of the LORD filled the temple of God. (NIV)

Mt 28:4 The guards were so afraid of him that they shook and became like dead men. (NIV)

Ac 9:4 He fell to the ground and heard a voice say to him, “Saul, Saul, why do you persecute me?”
Ac 9:5 “Who are you, Lord?” Saul asked. “I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting,” he replied.
Ac 9:6 “Now get up and go into the city, and you will be told what you must do.”
Ac 9:7 The men traveling with Saul stood there speechless; they heard the sound but did not see anyone.
Ac 9:8 Saul got up from the ground, but when he opened his eyes he could see nothing. So they led him by the hand into Damascus. (NIV)

I have never been slain in the Spirit, so I can give no personal info.

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I honestly for the life of me can't figure out how folks would connect those verses to being "slain in the spirit."
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« Reply #19 on: September 19, 2007, 12:02:38 AM »

Well I also found some in the ot if you would like them posted as well James.

I would like to see something, Renee. In my experience, when dealing with the subject of being "slain in the spirit", when Scriptural support is requested, a patchwork of proof-texts are cited, which really do not prove anything at all.

There have been times when I felt so light I just fell. Some times I felt a heaviness. Some I just went down on my own. But all the time I had control over it. I could've refused and stayed on my feet. Consider the scripture The spirit of the prophet is subject to the prophet.

Honestly, I don't see what you're describing as being "slain in the spirit".
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« Reply #20 on: September 19, 2007, 11:36:04 AM »

22And the hand of the LORD was there upon me; and he said unto me, Arise, go forth into the plain, and I will there talk with thee.
23Then I arose, and went forth into the plain: and, behold, the glory of the LORD stood there, as the glory which I saw by the river of Chebar: and I fell on my face.
24Then the spirit entered into me, and set me upon my feet, and spake with me, and said unto me, Go, shut thyself within thine house.
Ezekiel 3:22-24 (King James Version)

2And, behold, the glory of the God of Israel came from the way of the east: and his voice was like a noise of many waters: and the earth shined with his glory.
3And it was according to the appearance of the vision which I saw, even according to the vision that I saw when I came to destroy the city: and the visions were like the vision that I saw by the river Chebar; and I fell upon my face.
4And the glory of the LORD came into the house by the way of the gate whose prospect is toward the east.
Ezekiel 43:2-4 (King James Version)

18And I fell down before the LORD, as at the first, forty days and forty nights: I did neither eat bread, nor drink water, because of all your sins which ye sinned, in doing wickedly in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger.
Deuteronomy 9 (King James Version)

28As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD. And when I saw it, I fell upon my face, and I heard a voice of one that spake.
Ezekiel 1 (King James Version)

17So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision.
Daniel 8 (King James Version)

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« Reply #21 on: September 19, 2007, 12:16:31 PM »

22And the hand of the LORD was there upon me; and he said unto me, Arise, go forth into the plain, and I will there talk with thee.
23Then I arose, and went forth into the plain: and, behold, the glory of the LORD stood there, as the glory which I saw by the river of Chebar: and I fell on my face.
24Then the spirit entered into me, and set me upon my feet, and spake with me, and said unto me, Go, shut thyself within thine house.
Ezekiel 3:22-24 (King James Version)

2And, behold, the glory of the God of Israel came from the way of the east: and his voice was like a noise of many waters: and the earth shined with his glory.
3And it was according to the appearance of the vision which I saw, even according to the vision that I saw when I came to destroy the city: and the visions were like the vision that I saw by the river Chebar; and I fell upon my face.
4And the glory of the LORD came into the house by the way of the gate whose prospect is toward the east.
Ezekiel 43:2-4 (King James Version)

18And I fell down before the LORD, as at the first, forty days and forty nights: I did neither eat bread, nor drink water, because of all your sins which ye sinned, in doing wickedly in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger.
Deuteronomy 9 (King James Version)

28As the appearance of the bow that is in the cloud in the day of rain, so was the appearance of the brightness round about. This was the appearance of the likeness of the glory of the LORD. And when I saw it, I fell upon my face, and I heard a voice of one that spake.
Ezekiel 1 (King James Version)

17So he came near where I stood: and when he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but he said unto me, Understand, O son of man: for at the time of the end shall be the vision.
Daniel 8 (King James Version)

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then apparently it is not what you thought. Different people are affected differently

I am not questioning anyone's salvation or anything, but I consider the passages I've seen to explain the "slain in the spirit" doctrine as beyond a stretch.
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« Reply #22 on: September 19, 2007, 04:10:39 PM »

Most people think of being slain in the spirit like a movie depiction. There are many who poke fun at Pentecostals, and just have not had the experience for yourself.

What would you call the experience given in the verses?

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« Reply #23 on: September 20, 2007, 02:01:16 AM »

practice of being "slain in the spirit"?

HUH? How would one practice this?  If the Holy Spirit touches you and knocks you down or flat, as John in Revelation... How would you practice for that?

If God want to interfere with the normal way of life for you, as he did with Zechariah (Luke 1:5-23, 59-79) which kept him from ministering in the temple, unable to speak, He will. There is no practice.

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« Reply #24 on: September 20, 2007, 02:05:46 AM »

Here's another: Do you believe, as some Pentecostals do, that the words "in the name of Jesus", or "in Jesus' name" must be said while you are being baptized in water, in order for your baptism to be valid?
No I don't.

Thanks for answering. Do you believe in the practice of being "slain in the spirit"? If so, what Scriptures, if any, would you use to support such a practice?



1Ki 8:10  And it came to pass, when the priests were come out of the holy [place], that the cloud filled the house of the LORD,


 1Ki 8:11  So that the priests could not stand to minister because of the cloud: for the glory of the LORD had filled the house of the LORD

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« Reply #25 on: September 20, 2007, 03:01:21 AM »

Yeah... It could be very diffacult to stand, let alone minister to others when the GLORY of the LORD comes down on you...

Sometimes, it's just like a wee short nap... in the Holy Presence of the LIVING GOD.  Sleeping
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« Reply #26 on: September 20, 2007, 07:33:02 AM »

Here's another: Do you believe, as some Pentecostals do, that the words "in the name of Jesus", or "in Jesus' name" must be said while you are being baptized in water, in order for your baptism to be valid?
No I don't.

Thanks for answering. Do you believe in the practice of being "slain in the spirit"? If so, what Scriptures, if any, would you use to support such a practice?



1Ki 8:10  And it came to pass, when the priests were come out of the holy [place], that the cloud filled the house of the LORD,


 1Ki 8:11  So that the priests could not stand to minister because of the cloud: for the glory of the LORD had filled the house of the LORD



All that says is that the priests were unable to fulfill their duties simply because the cloud disrupted things in the temple.  If something like that happened in a service at our church today, I doubt we would be able to go on with "business as usual" either.  It doesn't mean that anyone was "slain in the spirit" (whatever is really meant by that) though.

Again, most of these scriptures just appear to describe the natural reaction of individuals to extraordinary events.
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« Reply #27 on: September 20, 2007, 07:39:35 AM »

Concerning what I have seen on here on being "slain in the Spirit":  It seems to me that these passages are being used to justify a pre-conceived doctrine, rather than to get doctrine from the scriptures. 
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« Reply #28 on: September 21, 2007, 12:43:40 PM »

Concerning what I have seen on here on being "slain in the Spirit":  It seems to me that these passages are being used to justify a pre-conceived doctrine, rather than to get doctrine from the scriptures. 

When, after the out pouring of the Spirit, people fell down or swooned, the name given was slain in the spirit. There was the event, then they looked up the event in scripture, and found that others had experienced the same, or similar manifestations.

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« Reply #29 on: September 22, 2007, 05:31:36 PM »

Concerning what I have seen on here on being "slain in the Spirit":  It seems to me that these passages are being used to justify a pre-conceived doctrine, rather than to get doctrine from the scriptures. 
What these people in the bible experienced is now called Slain in the Spirit.

Just like from these scriptures we get the word rapture

1Co 15:51  Behold, I show you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
1Co 15:52  In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
1Co 15:53  For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
1Co 15:54  So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
1Co 15:55  O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?

The words themselves are not in there but the idea is.
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