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Christian Pacifism
« on: December 14, 2011, 08:16:19 PM »
Until the later 20th C.".. the majority of other Pentecostal denominations, officially opposed Christian participation in war...--wikipedia
I first learned of that about 1980 when I was doing research for my book on Christian Pacifism and read a Masters Thesis on it.

This is the 30th Anniversary of the book and it is now an ebook for Nook and Kindle where you can read some reviews and with the Kindle "Look Inside" feature, you can read my story.
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/christian-pacifism-michael-snow/1000946312?ean=2940013328471&itm=1&usri=christian+pacifism

http://www.amazon.com/Christian-Pacifism-Fruit-Narrow-ebook/dp/B005RIKH62/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1323375088&sr=8-1
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Re: Christian Pacifism
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2013, 04:15:07 PM »
This is interesting. I was raised in the Pentecostal church (although I attend a Vineyard church now) and I have never heard this. All the males in my family and my wifes family served in the military in one branch or another for as far back as before the 1900's. I inlisted in 1977 and served until 88 in the army. This is new information to me. Thanks for posting.
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Re: Christian Pacifism
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2013, 06:30:38 PM »
This is interesting. I was raised in the Pentecostal church (although I attend a Vineyard church now) and I have never heard this. All the males in my family and my wifes family served in the military in one branch or another for as far back as before the 1900's. I inlisted in 1977 and served until 88 in the army. This is new information to me. Thanks for posting.

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Re: Christian Pacifism
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2013, 09:56:47 AM »
Until the later 20th C.".. the majority of other Pentecostal denominations, officially opposed Christian participation in war...--wikipedia
I first learned of that about 1980 when I was doing research for my book on Christian Pacifism and read a Masters Thesis on it.

This is the 30th Anniversary of the book and it is now an ebook for Nook and Kindle where you can read some reviews and with the Kindle "Look Inside" feature, you can read my story.
http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/christian-pacifism-michael-snow/1000946312?ean=2940013328471&itm=1&usri=christian+pacifism

http://www.amazon.com/Christian-Pacifism-Fruit-Narrow-ebook/dp/B005RIKH62/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1323375088&sr=8-1


If you are a pacifist, then you cannot engage in violence by proxy either, otherwise you are being hypocritical.
This means that a pacifist cannot call the police when attacked, he has to grin and bear it, take it on the chin as they say!
When someone decides to rape your wife or children, you cannot truly defend them.

Pacifists demand that we turn the other cheek because of what Jesus said.
This being the case, a pacifist cannot claim on his insurance when the house burns down or his car is damaged, because that is not turning the other cheek. His property is being defended by proxy.

The problem with many "christian" doctrines is that they are frequently applied in a partisan manner. If pacifism is true, then the principle must be true in all circumstances.

Again, it is almost impossible for a pacifist to lay down his life for another, without first abandoning his pacifism and making a violent response.
ie. If someone is attacking a woman. What can you do. The famous answer I have seen several times, even here, is that the pacifist would resist by "getting in the way". His aim being to obstruct but not harm the perpetrator. The violent perpetrator therefore just kills him as a nuisance. He has not laid down his life for the victim, - who still gets raped.
All that has happened is that the pacifist has needlessly wasted his life for a banal principle. He has made no sacrifice for the victim whatsoever.
Disturb us Lord, when we are too pleased with ourselves. When our dreams have come true because we dreamed too little. When we arrived safely because we sailed too close to the shore. Disturb us Lord, to dare more boldly. To venture on wider seas. Where storms will show your mastery; Where, losing sight of land, we shall find the stars. We ask you to push back the horizons of our hopes; And to push into the future, in strength, courage, hope and love.                     (SIR FRANCIS DRAKE 1577)

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Re: Christian Pacifism
« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2013, 09:56:47 AM »