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Question: Is Time Travel Possible?
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« Reply #45 on: February 28, 2009, 08:34:12 PM »

Has anyone asked Eloise Hawking what she thinks about all this?
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« Reply #46 on: February 28, 2009, 09:03:21 PM »

A tv show?
called "Lost?
Eloise Hawking is a mysterious character who appears to have accurate knowledge of the future and the workings of time.
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« Reply #47 on: February 28, 2009, 09:37:49 PM »

Never heard of it, although Dr. Farrady said something like that in one of his lectures....
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« Reply #48 on: April 13, 2009, 07:52:16 PM »

I've been thinking deeply about time travel in the last few weeks. I'm wondering if it's possible. I always have. This is the way I see it.

Time is movement. We are moving forward in time. We are moving away from the past and into/toward the future through the present.

So if time travel is possible, we must figure out a way to "travel" away from the future into the past or away from the present and into the future. So in that respect we are time "traveling" into the future at a slow pace.

So if time travel is possible we must find a way to move away from certain points. We must find a way to movement. And to do that we would have to find a road. That is, something that the tires would be able to grip to and thrust us/pull us one way or the other. So I guess we need some tires too!

Yeah, I was getting deep and then wound up in the shallow in.

So is time travel possible?


Short answer, no.

The reason being is that time is a product of human awareness and the way the mind works.

As you have heard, no human mind can know what God really is. Can't pour the ocean into a cup type thing.

The human mind compensates by breaking "this" reality down into tiny bit sized chunks. It consumes these one after another, giving the illusion of flow and movement.

Time exists only in the human realm. In the human mind.

To know God, is to know timelessness.

God lives in the present moment only.




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« Reply #49 on: April 14, 2009, 09:17:18 AM »

Time exists only in the human realm. In the human mind.

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« Reply #50 on: April 14, 2009, 09:40:36 AM »

In order for the mind to navigate this world,  it has to establish reference points. Otherwise, it would be floating blind in a dark space.

The reality is there isn't anything but the present moment.

It is the mind that gives a sense of past or future. Humans spend their day either remembering the past or anticipating the future. Few are capable of maintianing a fix on the present moment.

Harder than it sounds.

When you are in spirit form, you have neither body or mind. You experience timelessness. Total awareness.

You're just "on", and the kingdom is laid out before you.

When you dream, this sense of time you have goes right out the window. Ever lay down for a few minutes to find that an hour has passed?

But you would swear on a stack of bibles, it was just 5 minutes.

Time, is all about perception.




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« Reply #51 on: April 14, 2009, 12:31:13 PM »

Masked Man,

Only you will appreciate this --- once years ago I was given one of those Dawning Gasping Revelation Insights, whatever they are called.

                                      Time is Foreplay.
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« Reply #52 on: April 14, 2009, 12:38:55 PM »

As I speak from personal revelation instead of outward sources, I do understand.

My own inner processes are highly visual in nature. Translation  into words is something I struggle with on the human end sometimes.

I think the scriptures refer to this state as the "hollow reed through which the wind blows" or something like that.

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« Reply #53 on: April 14, 2009, 04:55:36 PM »

           
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« Reply #54 on: April 17, 2009, 01:47:25 PM »

Of course it is.  There are a number of theorectical ways to achieve time travel based on folding the space time manifold as outlined in General Relativity.  It is however an enormous engineering problem that is unlikely to be resolved any time soon.

But there are three scenarios of such travel  I can think of and there are probably lots more.

In one you move from one point to the other (say to go back in time to fix a mistake you made).  You have now moved back in time like pressing rewind on a DVD.  Unfortunately you have no knowledge of the future so you are highly likely to repeat the very error you came back to correct.  That's the bad news.  The good news is that unlike a DVD you will have from that point until the point you went back in time to make any number of new and interesting errors.  This may happen all the time.  How would you know?

In a second, you want to be your current self in a different time.  Say Jerusalem around 30 AD.  You hang around there for a couple of years with a dozen or so pals and come back to when you left.  Just like the movie Contact, without the special effects I mean, there is no way to tell the difference between the real occurence and a perhaps preternaturally accurate delusion.

In the third where you go back for a week, and are not here for a week and then come back  would not only require some machinery we have no clue how to build or where to start, but the amount of energy required is potentially staggering.

Perhaps some things are just better left alone....
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« Reply #55 on: April 23, 2009, 01:18:44 PM »

With God all things are possible.

But I don't think God would allow us to know how to do it.  Our potential for screwing things up is unfathomable.  Aside from the obvious - go back in time and make a change, suddenly so-and-so isn't born.  But think how many would want to go back to Eve and tell her NOT to take that apple..... and mess with Christ's death and resurrection..... motivations good and bad, whether traveling past or future, would have dire consequences.

God knows we can't even make the right decisions with even our own lives because of our sinful nature.  I can't see Him letting us have the ability to time travel.

Unless maybe if we could only do it as observers, without interaction....

Could u.f.o. activity be christians and angels traveling to and fro into the future and the past.

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« Reply #56 on: April 23, 2009, 05:17:03 PM »

Wait till you all find out who just won the 2012 election.
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« Reply #57 on: April 25, 2009, 05:35:04 PM »

I do believe time travel is possible but will God allow it. If we travel into the past those that have gone to heaven or hell will be brught back to go through this trial again or to sin again. I do not think God will allow this. If we go into the future you will sooner or later run into judgement day and again I do not think God will allow it.
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« Reply #58 on: April 27, 2009, 11:25:18 AM »

If we travel into the past those that have gone to heaven or hell will be brught back to go through this trial again or to sin again. I do not think God will allow this.

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When you rewind your copy the Ten Commandments what happens?

THEY won't be "brought back" to sin again.  YOU are just going back to watch them sin in the first place.  You could do it over and over, like watching a good movie.

As for jumping forward to judgement day, how would anyone know?  If you jumped to the rapture and were taken up I'm pretty sure you won't be coming back to tell anyone.  And if you jump and go to hell.....  Well, let's just assume that not only will jumping back not be your first priority but in that event you could safely assume that God intended for you to be there because that's where you are.
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« Reply #59 on: April 27, 2009, 02:12:28 PM »

Never heard of it, although Dr. Farrady said something like that in one of his lectures....

Absolutely brilliant!  Rolling on floor laughing

As for time travel, this morning when my alarm went off at 5:45 a.m. and I heaved my alarm clock across the room in anger, time traveled about 10 feet from my bed to my door. So, yes, I guess time can travel.
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