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Question: Is Time Travel Possible?
Yes   -12 (29.3%)
No, only to God   -20 (48.8%)
I don't know   -9 (22%)
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« on: November 15, 2008, 10:52:13 AM »

I've been thinking deeply about time travel in the last few weeks. I'm wondering if it's possible. I always have. This is the way I see it.

Time is movement. We are moving forward in time. We are moving away from the past and into/toward the future through the present.

So if time travel is possible, we must figure out a way to "travel" away from the future into the past or away from the present and into the future. So in that respect we are time "traveling" into the future at a slow pace.

So if time travel is possible we must find a way to move away from certain points. We must find a way to movement. And to do that we would have to find a road. That is, something that the tires would be able to grip to and thrust us/pull us one way or the other. So I guess we need some tires too!

Yeah, I was getting deep and then wound up in the shallow in.

So is time travel possible?
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« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2008, 11:08:06 AM »

Cool.  New forum.

I always like movies that involved time travel ("Where we're going, we don't need roads!"  Cool ).

There are theories that motion affects the passage of time... as in when something begins to move at an increasingly rapid rate of speed, the passage of time begins to behave differently.  Of course, we don't currently have the technology to propel people at fast enough speeds to confirm whether this would take place.

Fascinating subject though.  Perhaps, some others who have studied this more in depth might have some insight.

Somehow though, I suspect that if time travel is possible, then only travel to the future is possible.  Whether travel back into time is even possible, I don't know.  But, that would introduce some potential problems if it were.  Would be cool to go back in time though... the problem of changing history could get messy though.

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« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2008, 11:16:38 AM »

With God all things are possible.

But I don't think God would allow us to know how to do it.  Our potential for screwing things up is unfathomable.  Aside from the obvious - go back in time and make a change, suddenly so-and-so isn't born.  But think how many would want to go back to Eve and tell her NOT to take that apple..... and mess with Christ's death and resurrection..... motivations good and bad, whether traveling past or future, would have dire consequences.

God knows we can't even make the right decisions with even our own lives because of our sinful nature.  I can't see Him letting us have the ability to time travel.

Unless maybe if we could only do it as observers, without interaction....
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« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2008, 11:24:53 AM »

Just to mess with our minds a little bit, if anyone in the future ever does go back into time and changes history, then they already have.  Tipping hat

Another theory I've heard is the "alternate universe" theory.  It says that if someone does travel into the past and changes history, then they will effectively be in a parallel universe.  Things in our time will be unchanged, but the traveller will only see the effects of his meddlings in a parallel universe.

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« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2008, 11:30:55 AM »

Just to mess with our minds a little bit, if anyone in the future ever does go back into time and changes history, then they already have.  Tipping hat

That's true, all possible travels and changes have already been accounted for in our reality.

I know this is so, cuz I read it in the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.  If you haven't read it, you need to.
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« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2008, 10:16:02 PM »

Yes, Moses and Elijah talking to Jesus on the Mount of Transfiguration,
both possibly using wormhole/whirlwind/vortex technology to get there.   Announcement

Everyone know tornadoes warp space which is needed for time travel.

Check these cites out, just food for thought not an indorcement of the info.
There is a lot of whirlwind activity in the bible. 

God says in Job that his way is in the whirlwind and the storm.

Also time is non-linear, like when writing a book or making a movie.  the end can happen before the beginning. 

Also hyper-time may be possible, as there may be different rates of speed for time.   In hyper-time one day (24 hours) could be a thousand year to another being outside of our rate of space-time.  see the movie Clock Stoppers.
 
Like the  days of creation, took 1000 year in heaven for every 1 day on the earth.


http://www.timstouse.com/EarthChanges/ScienceOneness/chapter09.htm

http://www.tornadoproject.com/oddities/oddities.htm
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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2008, 09:07:49 AM »

God is the only One who has control over time. I would love to go back and warn myself not to do certain things and to do other things. Of course, I'd probably just screw up my life even more by interfering.
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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2008, 09:11:18 AM »

Yes.  Botox.
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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2008, 05:12:09 PM »

They took our jaabs!

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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2008, 05:15:16 PM »

They took our jaabs!



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« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2008, 05:39:33 PM »

unfortunately this question (just like the proof and disproof of god) is unanswerable at this time. However, i can give you many well thought out theories that seem very feasible to the idea of time travel.

The gravitational pull of a black hole stretches and warps space-time around it to an incredibly deep cone shaped hole. When scientists analyzed X-ray images of "super massive" black holes they discovered they were spinning at close to the speed of light. This causes the space time fabric to be dragged around, otherwise known as "frame dragging". Space-time because so distorted that it forms an almost complete circle. We have confirmed that black holes rotate.

on to cosmic strings (this all relates to time travel, please continue reading). Cosmic strings are thing threads of energy that were left over after the big bang. Despite being no wider than an Atom, Cosmic strings have colossal density. A string just one yard long would excerpt more gravity than the earth. immense gravity warps space time. Theoretically, if two Cosmic Strings were to pass eachother, you could use them as a "time machine". The fast moving strings warp space time as they pass so that they bend space time into a wed shape. Normally a space ship would have to take the longer route through space time, But the time traveler can now take a short cut.  By outrunning a light beam caused by the wed shape that the cosmic strings have formed (altering space-time), he can travel back in time. which means that if a ship were to pass by those two cosmic stings, that ship could be back before it departs.

lets take a closer look.

Cosmic strings bend space time (from their gravitational force) causing a short cut. By traveling across those cosmic stings, a ship can travel faster than light in normal space time.

You cant build a rocket that goes faster than the speed of light, but with curved space time, you can take a shortcut and beat the light beam theoretically making a time machine in principle.

The path of time is no longer linear. instead, it forms something like a circle.

However, there is a problem. The very moment you warp space time enough to form a circle, the entire region would fall inside a black hole. which would also mean that the time travel region would be inside a black hole.

take a look at this (its generally what i just said but with visuals)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOi0xA9GvX8

So, i vote yes, just because we haven't done it, doesn't mean it wont happen. Not only that, but there is so much evidence that points towards it.
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« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2008, 03:19:14 AM »

I've been thinking deeply about time travel in the last few weeks. I'm wondering if it's possible. I always have. This is the way I see it.

Time is movement. We are moving forward in time. We are moving away from the past and into/toward the future through the present.

So if time travel is possible, we must figure out a way to "travel" away from the future into the past or away from the present and into the future. So in that respect we are time "traveling" into the future at a slow pace.

So if time travel is possible we must find a way to move away from certain points. We must find a way to movement. And to do that we would have to find a road. That is, something that the tires would be able to grip to and thrust us/pull us one way or the other. So I guess we need some tires too!

Yeah, I was getting deep and then wound up in the shallow in.

So is time travel possible?

I am not a scientist, but it seems to me that only time travel into the past is possible.  And I am not sure we can actually affect the present our future through our actions in the past - like in Back To The Future - for example.  We might only be observers - if we ever figure out how do do it before Christ returns
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« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2008, 12:33:43 AM »

Is time travel possible?  I'll think about it and tell you yesterday.
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« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2008, 02:55:17 PM »

to answer the question simply:  No.

to answer it with more detail:  the past is gone, it doesn't exist anymore and the future has not yet been formed so where would one travel?

the Bible tells us 'that it is appointed unto man to die once...'  to time travel backwards would mean that some form of the past is still alive when that is just not so.

besides who would listen to a time traveler from the future and what would stop them from amassing huge amounts of money through gambling on sporting events?  altering the future in this  manner is never a wise thing.

so put me down to a firm no.  feel free to disagree with me.
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« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2008, 12:37:06 PM »

Like I said.   (Read Reply #78)
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