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Question: Is Time Travel Possible?
Yes   -12 (29.3%)
No, only to God   -20 (48.8%)
I don't know   -9 (22%)
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« Reply #60 on: April 27, 2009, 02:15:50 PM »

No good answers so I didn't vote.

God is not subject to time so he never has to time travel.. but he can exist at every moment under the arc of time at the same time.

As far as Man time traveling.. time is something we were created under and limited to.. so I highly doubt it.
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« Reply #61 on: April 28, 2009, 03:41:32 PM »

time is something we were created under and limited to..

Err, sorry Tantor, but wherever did you come up with that assumption? 

I'm pretty sure that the promise of life everlasting is part of the carrot.  That said, I would argue that no construct of a given number of dimensions (call it n) can ever create or devise some method of manipulating dimension n+1  [Think of it this way, no matter what picture you put on your TV screen the pictures in and of themselves couldn't make a three dimensional ball to toss out of the TV and onto your living room floor.]
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« Reply #62 on: May 05, 2009, 07:52:03 PM »

Time travel is a wonderful vehicle for science fiction, and was indeed very skillfully employed in the Dr. Who series; however, I most seriously doubt its viability or applicability in real life.
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« Reply #63 on: May 05, 2009, 08:10:26 PM »

That's the same thing you said next week.
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« Reply #64 on: May 08, 2009, 03:19:53 PM »

That's the same thing you said next week.

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« Reply #65 on: May 11, 2009, 09:14:23 PM »

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« Reply #66 on: June 25, 2009, 12:18:39 PM »





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« Reply #67 on: June 25, 2009, 12:50:10 PM »


Genesis 18:10  And he said, I will certainly return unto thee according to the time of life

Abraham and Sarah were made young again; were they just physically changed, or did God take them back in time.

God having known the end from the beginning according to His foreknowledge, was He omnipresent, or could He travel in or without time being a restriction? 

In the future the living creatures will speed back and forth like flashes of lightning; would they lose or gain time in such travel?   

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« Reply #68 on: July 01, 2009, 07:05:13 AM »

Of course time travel is possible.  The bible proves it with all the prophecies. 
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« Reply #69 on: July 02, 2009, 05:33:07 PM »


I've been traveling through time all in one direction, but I'm sure I don't want to go the other direction only to have to come this way again.   Praying hard

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« Reply #70 on: July 02, 2009, 10:53:02 PM »

Of course time travel is possible.  The bible proves it with all the prophecies. 
I don't follow this logic.
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« Reply #71 on: July 10, 2009, 10:44:40 PM »

Of course time travel is possible.  The bible proves it with all the prophecies.  
I don't follow this logic.

Think of how prophecies work.  If time only exist in the present moment, and can't flow forward or backwards, than how can prophecies work?  Inorder for prophecies to work, information from the future must be able to flow backwards in time to the recipient.  

If existence only exist in this moment that we are experiencing, than prophecies could not work because existence is no longer linear but is instead a dot, and only exist in the dot of present moment.  So how could anyone know what has not happen yet?

So since prophecies are real, with proof coming form the bible itself., ala: Revelations and more, than we know that existence is not a dot, but in fact a linear line of events, that events a-z is taking place all at once as I write this.  

Some might call what I am describing as a form of prophecy tree, where existence is not only linear, since trees have branches, but multi-linear, which results in infinite-existence. And mutiple-existence answers the time paradoxes problems, which was a tool used by anti-time travelers theorists to debunk the possibility of time travel.    Smile

so since prophecy shows informatin can travel from point b, back to point a, that shows that traveling on the linear line of existance is possible.

Don't forget, God is also a time traveler, he is both the Alpha and Omega, and he exist everywhere on the linear line at every moment.  Pondering


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« Reply #72 on: July 11, 2009, 12:36:14 AM »

Of course time travel is possible.  The bible proves it with all the prophecies.  
I don't follow this logic.

Think of how prophecies work.  If time only exist in the present moment, and can't flow forward or backwards, than how can prophecies work?  Inorder for prophecies to work, information from the future must be able to flow backwards in time to the recipient.  

If existence only exist in this moment that we are experiencing, than prophecies could not work because existence is no longer linear but is instead a dot, and only exist in the dot of present moment.  So how could anyone know what has not happen yet?

So since prophecies are real, with proof coming form the bible itself., ala: Revelations and more, than we know that existence is not a dot, but in fact a linear line of events, that events a-z is taking place all at once as I write this.  

Some might call what I am describing as a form of prophecy tree, where existence is not only linear, since trees have branches, but multi-linear, which results in infinite-existence. And mutiple-existence answers the time paradoxes problems, which was a tool used by anti-time travelers theorists to debunk the possibility of time travel.    Smile

so since prophecy shows informatin can travel from point b, back to point a, that shows that traveling on the linear line of existance is possible.

Don't forget, God is also a time traveler, he is both the Alpha and Omega, and he exist everywhere on the linear line at every moment.  Pondering
I suppose I conceive of prophecy as something God says He's gonna make happen, not that it already has in some linear time tree. God says, I'm going to strike Bill with lightening on July 23, and then it happens. It isn't because God saw it by traveling down the time tree, but because He made it happen when He wanted it to happen. That is not nearly the same as saying God prophecies because he's already been to next week, and comes back to report on it.

Further, since you bring it up, I'm not sure we grasp fully what "prophecy" means. Prophetic fulfillment in the NT do not seem to be of what the original hearers or speakers would have thought of as "prophecy" pointing to something in NT times. This is especially so when we realize that many NT fulfillments must be considered as secondary fulfillments of what we think are actual prophecies.

It is quite clear that Jewish use of earlier texts and events was characterized by the use of parallels, almost like one might use a proverb - to emphasize a point rather than to prove a prophetic fulfillment.
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« Reply #73 on: July 11, 2009, 06:31:59 AM »

Of course time travel is possible.  The bible proves it with all the prophecies.  
I don't follow this logic.

Think of how prophecies work.  If time only exist in the present moment, and can't flow forward or backwards, than how can prophecies work?  Inorder for prophecies to work, information from the future must be able to flow backwards in time to the recipient.  

If existence only exist in this moment that we are experiencing, than prophecies could not work because existence is no longer linear but is instead a dot, and only exist in the dot of present moment.  So how could anyone know what has not happen yet?

So since prophecies are real, with proof coming form the bible itself., ala: Revelations and more, than we know that existence is not a dot, but in fact a linear line of events, that events a-z is taking place all at once as I write this.  

Some might call what I am describing as a form of prophecy tree, where existence is not only linear, since trees have branches, but multi-linear, which results in infinite-existence. And mutiple-existence answers the time paradoxes problems, which was a tool used by anti-time travelers theorists to debunk the possibility of time travel.    Smile

so since prophecy shows informatin can travel from point b, back to point a, that shows that traveling on the linear line of existance is possible.

Don't forget, God is also a time traveler, he is both the Alpha and Omega, and he exist everywhere on the linear line at every moment.  Pondering
I suppose I conceive of prophecy as something God says He's gonna make happen, not that it already has in some linear time tree. God says, I'm going to strike Bill with lightening on July 23, and then it happens. It isn't because God saw it by traveling down the time tree, but because He made it happen when He wanted it to happen. That is not nearly the same as saying God prophecies because he's already been to next week, and comes back to report on it.

Further, since you bring it up, I'm not sure we grasp fully what "prophecy" means. Prophetic fulfillment in the NT do not seem to be of what the original hearers or speakers would have thought of as "prophecy" pointing to something in NT times. This is especially so when we realize that many NT fulfillments must be considered as secondary fulfillments of what we think are actual prophecies.

It is quite clear that Jewish use of earlier texts and events was characterized by the use of parallels, almost like one might use a proverb - to emphasize a point rather than to prove a prophetic fulfillment.

That would mean that God could not predict anything that He, himself, did not cause to happen.  That means that He could not predict anything bad that was going to happen.  He could not predict any event that resulted from evil intent.  That is a very severe limitation on what God can forsee.  It seems to me that God could not have predicted that man would sin and that He would need to have a plan in place to deal with it.  That means that the whole gospel plan was an afterthought to Adam's sin.  That is not what is the Bible says.
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« Reply #74 on: July 11, 2009, 07:11:08 AM »

time flows in 2 directions:  from past to present and from future to present....

as far as time travel...if it were possible, then there could be people here on the earth that are from the future...
since the future has been here forever and ever also......


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