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« on: April 30, 2009, 10:46:52 PM »
As noted in Ecclesiastes there is no phisosophical system in existence which was not tried out by Solomon, and you'll find the results of the experiment in Chapter 12.
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« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2009, 06:58:55 PM »
Quote from: Ewigkeit on April 30, 2009, 10:46:52 PM
As noted in Ecclesiastes there is no phisosophical system in existence which was not tried out by Solomon, and you'll find the results of the experiment in Chapter 12.
Are you saying that philosophy is vanity?
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« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2009, 02:52:11 AM »

Philosophy is wisdom? All is vanity.

1 Corinthians 1:19  For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.

1 Corinthians 1:20  Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?

1 Corinthians 1:27  But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
 
1 Corinthians 3:19  For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, He taketh the wise in their own craftiness.
 
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« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2009, 09:25:04 PM »
Quote from: larry2 on June 18, 2009, 02:52:11 AM

Philosophy is wisdom? All is vanity.
 
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Hi Larry2,

How do we properly judge what is wisdom and what is foolishness?
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« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2009, 09:57:10 PM »

B-Man - How do we properly judge what is wisdom and what is foolishness?

larry2 - Dear B-Man, you will always find wisdom in God's word, but man attempts to find his way among fools elevating his prideful self or ego in the process. Intelligence is not necessary wisdom, or the building of empires a sign of success.

Proverbs 8:Proverbs 8:12 "I, wisdom, dwell together with prudence; I possess knowledge and discretion. This wisdom talked of  here is not worldly wisdom.
   
1 Corinthians 1:25  Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
 
Base all you seek and learn against God's word to see if it lacks character to its approaching wisdom. Will it stand in the eternities of time as to its validity of anything more than foolishness or vanity? We are running a race as Paul the apostle did to win Christ (Philippians 3:8); what value do you place on that?

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« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2009, 04:10:54 PM »
Hi Larry2,

Let's try a different tack.  Is all philosophy foolishness, or does philosophy also contain wisdom?
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« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2009, 10:41:40 PM »

Dear B-Man, it would make it easier to know what you're seeking if you would give an illustration as to what philosophy was of wisdom. For instance, you can study the universe from now until the end of time and not discover how God created it. Man's knowledge is limited by his finite mind.

James 3:17  "The wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy." Does your understanding of wisdom match with this description?
 
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« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2009, 10:59:11 PM »
Quote from: larry2 on June 19, 2009, 10:41:40 PM

Dear B-Man, it would make it easier to know what you're seeking if you would give an illustration as to what philosophy was of wisdom. For instance, you can study the universe from now until the end of time and not discover how God created it. Man's knowledge is limited by his finite mind.

James 3:17  "The wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy." Does your understanding of wisdom match with this description?
 
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My understanding of wisdom is a union of the intellect with truth.  Would you agree or disagree?
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« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2009, 12:21:33 AM »

B-Man - My understanding of wisdom is a union of the intellect with truth.  Would you agree or disagree?

larry2 - I sure would agree if you're saying that only godly wisdom is pertinent to truth. To me, wisdom comes when one is wise enough to not be wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight! Something I believe is that intellect is relative. A philosopher pronounces a dog to have greater intelligence than an earthworm. Can the dog live in an environment of having to survive by eating dirt? What is that philosopher comparing that wisdom to: it is foolishness? Who is it that comes up with universal studies of research, and proclaims us as intelligent design? What happens B-Man is the absence of truth.

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« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2009, 09:38:22 AM »
Greetings Larry2,

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larry2 - I sure would agree if you're saying that only godly wisdom is pertinent to truth.
This would be a fair assessment, yes.

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To me, wisdom comes when one is wise enough to not be wise in their own eyes, and prudent in their own sight!
I look at it a bit differently, but saying the same thing, I think...to me, being wise in one's own eyes is an internal, intellectual corruption of actual wisdom.  Actual wisdom is attained in an alignment of the intellect with truth.  In my own theology, this union necessitates the corruption being "fixed" so that antithesis no longer exists between external Truth [God's presence in and design of His creation] and the particular intellect in question.

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Something I believe is that intellect is relative. A philosopher pronounces a dog to have greater intelligence than an earthworm. Can the dog live in an environment of having to survive by eating dirt? What is that philosopher comparing that wisdom to: it is foolishness?
I see what you're saying, but not sure the philosopher would be corrupting wisdom by arriving at the conclusion you pose.  Certain standards of intelligence have been hammered out over the years by which philosophers, biologists and others are able to judge relative standards of intelligence in living animals.  True, dogs don't normally eat dirt...but neither are worms able to be trained to sit up and beg or jump through hoops.

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Who is it that comes up with universal studies of research, and proclaims us as intelligent design? What happens B-Man is the absence of truth.
And here we agree again; I too consider that a lack of wisdom is in a real sense equal to an absence of truth.
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« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2009, 03:25:38 PM »
How do you define wisdom?
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« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2009, 02:27:47 AM »
Quote from: Dexter on November 12, 2009, 03:25:38 PM
How do you define wisdom?

Wisdom is defined as anything that comes out of Stucky's mouth.
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« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2009, 06:03:33 PM »
Quote from: Stucky on December 24, 2009, 02:27:47 AM
Quote from: Dexter on November 12, 2009, 03:25:38 PM
How do you define wisdom?

Wisdom is defined as anything that comes out of Stucky's mouth.

That sounds like my x mother in-law. She use to say "I maybe not be right, but I'm never wrong". Funny thing was, she really believed it.
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« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2009, 08:53:31 PM »
   B Man
   Would someone please help this ignorant old man by defining WISDOM.
   If you can not then tell us what you mean by PHILOSOPHY
   Thank you.
  

 
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« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2009, 09:01:39 PM »
Quote from: Dexter on December 24, 2009, 06:03:33 PM
Quote from: Stucky on December 24, 2009, 02:27:47 AM
Quote from: Dexter on November 12, 2009, 03:25:38 PM
How do you define wisdom?

Wisdom is defined as anything that comes out of Stucky's mouth.

That sounds like my x mother in-law. She use to say "I maybe not be right, but I'm never wrong". Funny thing was, she really believed it.

Dex,

Did I say something to make you think I was kidding?   Smile

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According to the Stuckmeyer Unabridged Dictionary, Wisdom is defined as "any utterance emanating from the mouth of Stucky."
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