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Hi everyone!
I do not know if this qualifies as "philosophy" or not but it certainly is a way of life and a way of thinking, (and may indeed have something to do with your meta physics)  Smile

Those adhering to a literal interpretation of the Scripture should not have a problem with the following literal understanding, (though surely many will). However, we cannot possibly interpret absolutely everything as absolutely literal, and so by seeking, by the Holy Spirit, and in prayer, we come to understand what is literal and what is allegorical, spiritual, and supernal, in Scripture passages and their contexts. The following is therefore my "two cents" concerning the philosophy of the end of the heavens and the earth.

The Scripture is full of what some might refer to as "choke points". Everything else must go through these Scripture "choke points" to be properly understood. Most of the "choke points" are clearly defined by Yeshua himself when he walked among men, in the flesh, and are provided in the four Gospel accounts. Surely most of us here would agree that the words of Christ are non-negotiable. For this reason there are many places in the NT epistles where a certain parable or doctrinal statement of Yeshua may be referenced but because the writers did not expound upon the perfectly clear statements made in the Gospels, the parable, doctrinal statement, or teaching spoken of, is often not referenced in the particular epistle, (to do such a thing is a dangerous and careless mistake in most cases if not all).

We are expected to know the words of Christ Yeshua first and foremost before we truly begin to delve deeper into the epistles. All true doctrine flows from Yeshua and his words, parables, and teachings, whether forward into the NT epistles or going back into the OT shadows. Yeshua answers all of it, (although this is not always clear to us primarily because of preconceptions and misconceptions from erroneous teachings). In Mark 13, a companion passage with Matthew 24, we read that Yeshua is speaking directly to only four people and speaking with them privately on the Mount of Olives. We also should all know that the Gospel of Mark is most likely that of Peter who was there in person during this discourse. So this passage is a first hand account given by Peter who was there, (Mark is probably the convert and apprentice of Peter called "Marcus my son" in 1Pet.5:13).

Mark 13:1-4 KJV
1. And as he went out of the temple, one of his disciples saith unto him, Master, see what manner of stones and what buildings are here!
2. And Jesus answering said unto him, Seest thou these great buildings? there shall not be left one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
3. And as he sat upon the mount of Olives over against the temple, Peter and James and John and Andrew asked him privately,
4. Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign when all these things shall be fulfilled?


It is indisputable that this is a private conversation between Yeshua and the four apostles named in the above. But what then do most prophecy teachers, preachers, and theologians do when they come to the following portion of the passage?

Mark 13:28-31 KJV
28. Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When her branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is near:
29. So ye in like manner, when ye shall see these things come to pass, know that it is nigh, even at the doors.
30. Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.
31. Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.


How many times have we all heard prophecy teachers and preachers quote this passage, (or the companion fig tree parable from Matthew 24) and follow it up with a question and "obvious answer" interpretation for us? What is the next statement they invariably give after quoting this passage? They always follow it with a quick comment similar to the following remarks:

"Which generation is he talking about? The generation which sees all these things come to pass of course"…

As if it were obvious to everyone but the blind. However, nothing could be further from the truth. The facts are these:

Yeshua is having a private conversation with Peter, James, John, and Andrew, face to face, in private, at the Mount of Olives overlooking the Temple. And Yeshua states to them unequivocally:

"Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done."

Who among us is willing to interpret the words of Christ literally? That he meant what he said to whom he said it to? Because this happens to be one of those Scripture "choke points" and at this point in the discourse Yeshua says nothing about a "later generation" that will see all these things come to pass. He flat out and plainly states to the four apostles named, who were present at the start of the passage, that their own generation would not pass until all of the things he just foretold to them had transpired.

Therefore, if one is to be serious about the words of the Master then the same one makes his doctrine to fit what was spoken by the Master. The only possible conclusion that applies to us all is that when we shed this mortal body, (the saints do not die) then the sun shall be darkened, the moon shall not give her light, the stars of heaven shall fall, the powers of heaven shall be shaken, and we will see the Son of Man coming in the clouds of heaven and he will return for us, but each in his appointed time, and this accordingly after great tribulation.

Mark 13:23-31 KJV
23. But take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things.
24. But in those days, after that tribulation, the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,
25. And the stars of heaven shall fall, and the powers that are in heaven shall be shaken.
26. And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.
27. And then shall he send his angels, and shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from the uttermost part of the earth to the uttermost part of heaven.
28. Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When her branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is near:
29. So ye in like manner, when ye shall see these things come to pass, know that it is nigh, even at the doors.
30. Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.
31. Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.

Matthew 24:27-35 KJV
27. For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
28. For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
29. Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
30. And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
31. And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
32. Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
33. So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
34. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
35. Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.


Wheresoever the carcass is, there shall the eagles be gathered together. Two women shall be grinding at the mill, two men working in the field, one is taken and the other is left. Where? One is taken up on the wings of a great eagle, (Rev.12:14) the wicked one is left to vultures, ravens, or birds of prey, (also referred to by the same Greek word for "eagles") and every eye shall see, but each in his appointed time. For it is appointed unto men once to die, and then the judgment, and none shall be alone in his appointed times. This is the only way to make the doctrine fit the clear statement by the Master that the generation of the apostles would see all of these things come to pass before that generation itself passed away. Anyone willing to be serious may know that this is true by the last statement of the Mark 13 passage:

Mark 13:37 KJV
37. And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch.


The Gospel of Christ is personal and so is "the end" for every person of every generation. I am not suggesting that the world does not come upon a deadline, (imo we quickly approach it now) and there are obviously time indicators in many places in the Scripture, and I do believe there is an end to this world, (when all of the saints come to faith what need is there for the physical world any longer?). However, this is the primary meaning of Mark 13 and Matthew 24 in my understanding.

The kingdom of heaven is forever and ever, (Daniel 7:18) so then what "heaven" and what "earth" is it that shall pass away in this context? It is the natural fleshly mind and the natural fleshly body of man, which is the same "old man" that we are admonished to put away, and rather to put on the "new man" and "mind" which is Christ.

Ephesians 4:20-24 KJV
20. But ye have not so learned Christ;
21. If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:
22. That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;
23. And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
24. And that ye put on the new man, which after G-d is created in righteousness and true holiness.

Colossians 3:9-10 KJV
9. Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;
10. And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:


Also to be included in the Gospel is the anointing of Christ by Mary, (Matt.26:13).

Matthew 24:13-14 KJV
13. But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
14. And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.


Matthew 26:6-13 KJV
6. Now when Jesus was in Bethany, in the house of Simon the leper,
7. There came unto him a woman having an alabaster box of very precious ointment, and poured it on his head, as he sat at meat.
8. But when his disciples saw it, they had indignation, saying, To what purpose is this waste?
9. For this ointment might have been sold for much, and given to the poor.
10. When Jesus understood it, he said unto them, Why trouble ye the woman? for she hath wrought a good work upon me.
11. For ye have the poor always with you; but me ye have not always.
12. For in that she hath poured this ointment on my body, she did it for my burial.
13. Verily I say unto you, Wheresoever this gospel shall be preached in the whole world, there shall also this, that this woman hath done, be told for a memorial of her.

John 11:1-2 KJV
1. Now a certain man was sick, named Lazarus, of Bethany, the town of Mary and her sister Martha.
2. (It was that Mary which anointed the L-rd with ointment, and wiped his feet with her hair, whose brother Lazarus was sick.)

John 12:3-5 KJV
3. Then took Mary a pound of ointment of spikenard, very costly, and anointed the feet of Jesus, and wiped his feet with her hair: and the house was filled with the odour of the ointment.
4. Then saith one of his disciples, Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, which should betray him,
5. Why was not this ointment sold for three hundred pence, and given to the poor?


What was it that Mary had done in her anointing of Yeshua twice, (once upon his head and the other at his feet) with the most costly and precious anointing oil and perfume that she could find? And what is it about this which has the most to do with the Gospel message? And why would it be preached in all the world wheresoever the Gospel is preached?

Shabbat Shalom
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The four Gospel accounts are laid out like a four story house. Each floor plan tells a different perspective derived from the same overall building structure. When YHWH looks down as if from above he sees the entire house, with the foundation of Christ, the entire structure, and all the inner trappings and ornamental decorations, curtains, etc. However, when we as human beings approach the Gospels we enter at "the ground level" sort a speak. We see first the lower ground level, the first story, (though it is advisable for new believers to begin at the Gospel of John). It is as if we enter the first story of a four story house. After viewing the first floor we go up the stairs to the next floor and we find a new set of circumstances above the same area of the foundation and first level below. We must therefore understand and remember that all four of the Gospel accounts mesh together as one. Without this understanding we cannot even begin to understand the full story. Picture the first floor of this typical home floor plan as symbolizing the Gospel of Matthew and the second floor as the Gospel of Mark, etc., etc.



Zechariah 1:20-21 KJV
18. Then lifted I up mine eyes, and saw, and behold four horns.
19. And I said unto the angel that talked with me, What be these? And he answered me, these are the horns which have scattered Judah, Israel, and Jerusalem.
20. And the L-rd shewed me four carpenters.
21. Then said I, What come these to do? And he spake, saying, These are the horns which have scattered Judah, so that no man did lift up his head: but These are come to fray them, to cast out the horns of the Gentiles, which lifted up their horn over the land of Judah to scatter it.


The four Gospels are these very same "four carpenters" of Zechariah, not just penned or written by four men, but coming from "the four winds of heaven" which are probably the four living creatures of the Revelation. The four Gospels define the house in "four floors", or settings, which are the full Gospel of Yeshua.

Yeshua reveals to us the "Gospel of the Kingdom" in the Matt.24 companion passage to Mk.13. However the natural mind cannot comprehend until after it has been KILLED. When the power of the holy people is completely shattered that is when G-d can use us for his glory, as he did with Saul/Paul and in so many other places in Scripture. Until our "power" and carnal will is broken, our pride will always be in the way, and this does not just "happen" upon believing the Gospel of Christ crucified and resurrected. Faith is the entrance through the door which is Christ, a free gift by grace through faith. Then begins our walk and learning from the Master himself.

Matthew 24:3-14 KJV
3. And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
4. And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
6. And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
7. For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
8. All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9. Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
10. And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
11. And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12. And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13. But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
14. And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
15. When ye therefore (GSN#3767 oun) shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)


Strong's Ref. #3767
Romanized  oun
Pronounced oon
a primary word; (adverbially) certainly, or (conjunctionally) accordingly:
KJV--and (so, truly), but, now (then), so (likewise then), then, therefore, verily, wherefore.

Whenever someone says "THEREFORE" it means "BECAUSE OF WHAT I JUST SAID" or "ACCORDINGLY" or "because of what I just told you such and such will happen", "because the previous message is true therefore what follows will be true"…

Matt.24:15 begins with such a statement, (therefore) and therefore implies that Yeshua has just "rewound" the passage back to what was previously said. If we take this meshed into the context of the understanding of Mk.13, (from the previous post above) then we now have "the Gospel of the Kingdom" laid out in Matt.24:4-14 for us, and the message then applies to all believers from the time it was stated until now.

The clear order of Matthew 24:9 is thus:
1) They will deliver you up to affliction, ("tribulation" #2347 thlipsis).
2) Then you will be KILLED.
3) Then you will be hated by all nations for the sake of the name of Yeshua.

How will the "nations" hate you after you are dead? and why would it matter to you if you are dead? Wherefore the natural mind tends to skip right over this portion of the passage assuming that Yeshua means the physical death. However, Yeshua stated it that way, and in that order, and our misunderstanding as to why he did so is to our own detriment. What if he did not mean physical death as the primary meaning? Do all believers die physically for their faith? The word for "afflicted" (Matt.24:9) is the same one employed for "tribulation" elsewhere, (GSN#2347 thlipsis) and "great tribulation" (thlipsis megas). Who are the "THEY" of v.9 who will deliver up the saints to tribulation? They are the nations and kingdoms of the previous verse. There are seven nations whom YHWH said he would CAST OUT when the children of Israel entered the promised land, (again the land is the soil of the heart in typology). Also, YHWH states that he will have war with Amalek from age to age, (generation to generation) until the remembrance of him is blotted out completely and utterly. Agag was a name for the Amalekite kings, (from Amalek) and Haman and his TEN sons were Agagites, (Esther3:1).

Exodus 17:14-16 KJV
14. And the L-rd said unto Moses, Write this for a memorial in a book, and rehearse it in the ears of Joshua: for I will utterly put out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven.
15. And Moses built an altar, and called the name of it YHVHnissi:
16. For he said, Because the L-rd hath sworn that the L-rd will have war with Amalek from generation to generation.

1 Samuel 15:7-8 KJV
7. And Saul smote the Amalekites from Havilah until thou comest to Shur, that is over against Egypt.
8. And he took Agag the king of the Amalekites alive, and utterly destroyed all the people with the edge of the sword.

Esther 3:1 KJV
1. After these things did king Ahasuerus promote Haman the son of Hammedatha the Agagite, and advanced him, and set his seat above all the princes that were with him.


Perhaps this explains why Esther requested of king Ahasuerus to have the ten sons of Haman HANGED… AFTER THEY HAD ALREADY BEEN SLAIN! Mordecai and Esther certainly would have had access to the writings of Daniel. Specifically Dan.Ch.2 and the ten toes of iron mixed with potters clay, (the iron mixed with the seed of men). The Amalekites are also pictured as "locusts" in typology, (which has a direct bearing upon the meaning of Rev.9).

Judges 6:3-5 RSV
3. For whenever the Israelites put in seed the Midianites and the Amalekites and the people of the East would come up and attack them;  
4. they would encamp against them and destroy the produce of the land, as far as the neighborhood of Gaza, and leave no sustenance in Israel, and no sheep or ox or *donkey*  
5. For they would come up with their cattle and their tents, coming like locusts for number; both they and their camels could not be counted; so that they wasted the land as they came in.


Notice also the comparison to "THE SAND OF THE SEASHORE"

Judges 7:12 RSV
12. And the Midianites and the Amalekites and all the people of the East lay along the valley like locusts for multitude; and their camels were without number, as the sand which is upon the seashore for multitude.


The name used for the final end of Amalek is 'obed `ad ('abad `ad)
Which means "DESTRUCTION FOREVER" (Abaddon)


Numbers 24:16-20 KJV
16. He hath said, which heard the words of G-d, and knew the knowledge of the most High, which saw the vision of the Almighty, falling into a trance, but having his eyes open:
17. I shall see him, but not now: I shall behold him, but not nigh: there shall come a Star out of Jacob, and a Sceptre shall rise out of Israel, and shall smite the corners of Moab, and destroy all the children of Sheth.
18. And Edom shall be a possession, Seir also shall be a possession for his enemies; and Israel shall do valiantly.
19. Out of Jacob shall come he that shall have dominion, and shall destroy him that remaineth of the city.
20. And when he looked on Amalek, he took up his parable, and said, Amalek was the first of the nations; but his latter end shall be that he perish (HSN#0008 'obed, HSN#0006 'abad) for ever. (HSN#5703 `ad)


Strong's Ref. #5703
Romanized  `ad
Pronounced ad
from HSN5710; properly, a (peremptory) terminus, i.e. (by implication) duration, in the sense of advance or perpetuity (substantially as a noun, either with or without a preposition):
KJV--eternity, ever(-lasting, -more), old, perpetually, + world without end.

Strong's Ref. #0008
Romanized  'obed
Pronounced o-bade'
active of participle of HSN0006; (concrete) wretched or (abstract) destructin:
KJV--perish.

Strong's Ref. #0006
Romanized  'abad
Pronounced aw-bad'
a primitive root; properly, to wander away, i.e. lose oneself; by implication to perish (causative, destroy):
KJV--break, destroy(-uction), + not escape, fail, lose, (cause to, make) perish, spend, X and surely, take, be undone, X utterly, be void of, have no way to flee.

Amalek, Agag, Haman: The ten sons of Haman are the ten kings, (and locusts of Rev.9). YHWH says he will make war with Amalek from generation to generation, perpetually, until the remembrance of Amalek is completely put out from under heaven. This is exactly what we see in Rev.17 because the Word of YHWH cannot be broken and must be fulfilled. The Lamb, the Son of YHWH, Yeshua, defeats the ten kings in battle over and over again, (TEN AT A TIME) until they be all completely destroyed and their memory blotted out from under heaven. They receive power AS kings, (like kings, or similar to kings, but not necessarily visible kings) and they receive power for only "one hour" as kings with the beast. It is an hour of testing and trial, great tribulation, such as never was before and never shall be again.

Revelation 17:12-17 KJV
12. And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
13. These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
14. These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is L-rd of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
15. And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the wh*re sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
16. And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the wh*re, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
17. For G-d hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of G-d shall be fulfilled.


The Seven Mountains are Seven Nations:

Deuteronomy 7:1-4 KJV
1. When the L-rd thy G-d shall bring thee into the land whither thou goest to possess it, and hath cast out many nations before thee, the Hittites, and the Girgashites, and the Amorites, and the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites, seven nations greater and mightier than thou;
2. And when the L-rd thy G-d shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them:
3. Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son.
4. For they will turn away thy son from following me, that they may serve other gods: so will the anger of the L-rd be kindled against you, and destroy thee suddenly.


Paul gives the same warning again in the book of Acts quoting this verse:

Acts 13:19 KJV
19. And when he had destroyed seven nations in the land of Chanaan, he divided their land to them by lot.


Canaan (Chanaan) is also symbolic of the land, or soil, of the people of YHWH and he states that he will cleanse his house, land, soil, of all the Canaanites from his land:

Zechariah 14:20-21 KJV
20. In that day shall there be upon the bells of the horses, Holiness Unto The L-rd; and the pots in the L-rd's house shall be like the bowls before the altar.
21. Yea, every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the L-rd of hosts: and all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein: and in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of the L-rd of hosts.


We are the HOUSE OF YHWH, the saints are the Temple of Yeshua. Those who think nothing of the seven nations listed in Deut.7, or that they do not apply to the saints, or that they are now extinct, they are mistaken: For those seven nations are seven mountains upon which the Rev.17 woman sits. One of those seven nations is given in the New Testament example of the Girgashite man possessed with a double legion. This one example should be sufficient to understand what is the meaning:

Matthew 8:28 KJV
28. And when he was come to the other side into the country of the Gergesenes, there met him two possessed with devils, coming out of the tombs, exceeding fierce, so that no man might pass by that way.


Strong's Ref. #1086
Romanized  Gergesenos
Pronounced gher-ghes-ay-nos'
of Hebrew origin [HSN1622]; a Gergesene (i.e. Girgashite) or one of the aborigines of Palestine:
KJV--Gergesene.

The stars of heaven are the sons of YHWH, they are the children of Israel, they are the saints. It is a spiritual battle and "the high places of the field" is the spiritual battle ground of the mind. However, Ephraim is not listed in the twelve tribal names given in Rev.7. Therefore put to death the pride of Ephraim in yourself, (Yeshua does this for those who love him, and your pride will be killed, and then all those nations will really hate you because Yeshua will give you the truth).

1 John 2:18-19 ASV
18. Little children, it is the last hour: and as ye heard that antichrist cometh, even now have there arisen many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last hour.
19. They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they all are not of us.


Every servant will be tested and tried. And every branch which bears fruit the Father purges and prunes so that it may bear fruit more abundantly, (Jn.15:2). In addition this also speaks of part of the cleansing, purging, and ATONEMENT process which the Great High Priest Yeshua, (according to the order of Melchizedek) performs so that may be cleansed the Temple of the Tabernacle of the Testimony, which is the house of the saints and the great congregation-ekklesia, (see Lev.16:17 and Rev.15:8).

Judges 5:14 DRB
14. Out of Ephraim came those whose root was in Amalek; After thee was Benjamin among thy peoples. Out of Machir came down governors, And out of Zebulun they that handled the staff of the ruler.

Judges 5:14-21 KJV
14. Out of Ephraim was there a root of them against Amalek; after thee, Benjamin, among thy people; out of Machir came down governors, and out of Zebulun they that handle the pen of the writer.
15. And the princes of Issachar were with Deborah; even Issachar, and also Barak: he was sent on foot into the valley. For the divisions of Reuben there were great thoughts of heart.
16. Why abodest thou among the sheepfolds, to hear the bleatings of the flocks? For the divisions of Reuben there were great searchings of heart.
17. Gilead abode beyond Jordan: and why did Dan remain in ships? Asher continued on the sea shore, and abode in his breaches.
18. Zebulun and Naphtali were a people that jeoparded their lives unto the death in the high places of the field.
19. The kings came and fought, then fought the kings of Canaan in Taanach by the waters of Megiddo; they took no gain of money.
20. They fought from heaven; the stars in their courses fought against Sisera.
21. The river of Kishon swept them away, that ancient river, the river Kishon. O my soul, thou hast trodden down strength.

And in that day:
There shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of YHWH of armies…


Mark 16:9 KJV
9. Now when Jesus was risen early the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary Magdalene, out of whom he had cast seven devils.


To whom little is forgiven, the same loves little.
To whom much is forgiven, the same loves much.
And Mary had anointed Yeshua as her new King.

Peace-Shalom
In Yeshua!
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Daniel 9  ~  Ezra 4

Enoch the scribe note and first known writer prophesied of "Seventy Generations". We then find in Luke 3 the genealogy of seventy six generations from Adam to Christ, (inclusive). The Scripture clearly tells us that Enoch was the seventh from Adam. Not only is this found in the Genesis account but Jude 1:14 states the same unequivocally and again names Enoch a prophet, (meaning at least some portion of the writing is canonical since Jude quotes from it). One needs only to count the generations given by Luke 3 to discover a resulting sixty nine generations from Enoch to Christ.

69 + 7  =  76 Generations

1 Enoch 10:15
15. To Michael likewise the L-rd said, "Go and announce his crime to Semyâzâ, and to the others who are with him, who have been associated with women, that they might be polluted with all their impurity. And [announce] when all their sons shall be slain, [announce] when they shall see the perdition of their beloved, bind them for seventy generations in the valleys of the earth, even to the day of judgment, and of consummation, until the judgment, the effect of which will last for ever, be completed.


The understanding of this (and any non-canonical apocryphal works) should be no different than when we interpret what has been deemed as the canonical Scripture. If it be of YHWH then all of the same rules will apply and it will align with Scripture and with the sound doctrine of Scripture. What is "soil" according to the Parable of the Sower? Soil is the earth, the heart of man, 'adam, 'adamah, land, soil, earth, it refers to man, (the "rocky soil" of the Parable of the Sower is the condition of the heart, etc.,). What then is meant by the phrase "the valleys of the earth" in Enoch 10:15? The "valleys of the earth" are low points of humanity or wicked men. We see the very same when Yeshua arrives on the scene in the Gospel accounts: evil spirits abound everywhere, residing in and over people, causing severe maladies, sicknesses, and perversions. These wicked spirits were bound up in "the valleys of the earth" which are the low points of humanity, not only residing in the wicked, but also the sinners whom Christ came to set free and save from bondage. The Seventy Generations then are from Enoch to the first judgment at the time of Christ, and those bound up in the valleys of the earth are not the fallen watchers, (Nphiliym) but the wicked spirits of their offspring which were originally the giants, (hagibboriym). Was there a day of judgment, according to the Scripture, at the time of the first advent of Yeshua? Yes, according to Christ himself:

John 12:27-32 KJV
27. Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? Father, save me from this hour: but for this cause came I unto this hour.
28. Father, glorify thy name. Then came there a voice from heaven, saying, I have both glorified it, and will glorify it again.
29. The people therefore, that stood by, and heard it, said that it thundered: others said, An angel spake to him.
30. Jesus answered and said, This voice came not because of me, but for your sakes.
31. Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the prince of this world be cast out.
32. And I, if I be lifted up from the earth, will draw all men unto me.

John 16:7-11 KJV
7. Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.
8. And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
9. Of sin, because they believe not on me;
10. Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;
11. Of judgment, because the prince of this world is judged.


The prince, (archon) of this world, (kosmos) was judged at the cross because for the first and only time, the archon of this kosmos world order had killed a truly innocent man: Christ Yeshua, the only innocent One. As for the next two verses from the Enoch 10 passage, they concern the Parable of the Wheat and Tares, the end of the age, and of the world, and they are an exact fit to the Parable of the Wheat and Tares:

1 Enoch 10:16-17
16. In those days they shall be led off to the abyss of fire: and to the torment and the prison in which they shall be confined for ever.
17. And whosoever shall be condemned and destroyed will from thenceforth be bound together with them to the end of all generations.


The statement "in those days" (plural) refers to the "Two Great Days" (2Pet.3:8, Psalm 90:4) the two thousand years between the first judgment and the final judgment of the prince of this world. The final judgment will include all of the evil ones locked up since the first judgment. Those locked up are locked up with the souls of mortals which have refused the offering of Yeshua since the time of the cross. The spirits of mortal men are immortal, (though dead in trespasses and sins) and become a cage for the demons that inhabit their bodies when the wicked person physically dies. The two are apparently bound together as v.17 above states because Yeshua implies the very same in the Parable of the Wheat and Tares as well as other Scripture which verifies this terrible fact. If there were any doubt this teaching Amos 8 and Rev.18 both speak of the same, (the "basket" of Amos 8:1 is literally HSN#3619 "kluwb" a bird cage or bird trap).

Revelation 18:2 KJV
2. And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.


The wicked spirits were once the souls of the giants according to Enoch. This then must be one reason they do not like dry and arid places. They prefer a body just as Yeshua taught in several passages. They know that they are judged and apparently they do not want to enter eternal damnation alone. Therefore it is in their interest to deceive man so as to make themselves a host or a "house". Wicked men now become the "bird trap" for these wicked spirits and so the wicked man ultimately becomes "the cage" according to the Scripture. Just as the Parable of the Sower teaches, the wicked one, Satan, and his messengers are like fowls (unclean birds) which steal the seed of the truth from the hearts, (soil) of some men, (the compacted ground by the wayside) but the man or woman having a ready heart has the "fertile soil" or "good ground" which receives the seed of the truth and begins to bring forth fruit in the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 12:43-45 KJV
43. When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none.
44. Then he saith, I will return into my house from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it empty, swept, and garnished.
45. Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.


1 Enoch 10:18-22
18. Destroy all the souls addicted to dalliance, and the offspring of the Watchers, for they have tyrannized over mankind.
19. Let every oppressor perish from the face of the earth;
20. Let every evil work be destroyed;
21. [Let] The plant of righteousness and of rectitude appear, and its produce become a blessing.
22. Righteousness and rectitude shall be for ever planted with delight.


Who is the plant of righteousness and rectitude? Who is the olive tree to which we, as branches, are grafted into? Who is the true vine? The Father owns all of it, and the Father is the "husbandman" or the owner and planter. In the olive tree analogy the olive tree belongs to YHWH, he is the husbandman, the owner. Yeshua is the root of the Olive Tree, the True Vine, the Tree of Life, the Plant of Rectitude and Righteousness. Yeshua is the seed which first died, and then like a mustard seed sprouted, (netser) and branched out, and which became a kingdom filling the whole earth.

John 15:1-5 KJV
1. I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman.
2. Every branch in me that beareth not fruit he taketh away: and every branch that beareth fruit, he purgeth it, that it may bring forth more fruit.
3. Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you.
4. Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, except it abide in the vine; no more can ye, except ye abide in me.
5. I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.


1 Enoch 10:23-29
23. "And then shall all the saints give thanks, and live until they have begotten a thousand children, while the whole period of their youth, and their Sabbaths shall be completed in peace. In those days all the earth shall be cultivated in righteousness; it shall be wholly planted with trees, and filled with benediction; every tree of delight shall be planted in it.
24. In it shall vines be planted; and the vine which shall be planted in it shall yield fruit to satiety; every seed, which shall be sown in it, shall produce for one measure a thousand; and one measure of olives shall produce ten presses of oil.
25. Purify the earth from all oppression, from all injustice, from all crime, from all impiety, and from all the pollution which is committed upon it. Exterminate them from the earth.
26. Then shall all the children of men be righteous, and all nations shall pay me divine honours, and bless me; and all shall adore me.
27. The earth shall be cleansed from all corruption, from every crime, from all punishment, and from all suffering; neither will I again send a deluge upon it from generation to generation for ever.
28. In those days I will open the treasures of blessing which are in heaven, that I may cause them to descend upon earth, and upon all the works and labour of man.
29. Peace and equity shall associate with the sons of men all the days of the world, in every generation of it."


The greatest portion of the debate over Daniel 9 has always been concerning the word shabuwa` (HSN#7620) translated as "weeks" and whether the word is even actually there in v.24-26 or not. Technically it is not there. The word is employed in the common feminine gender only in Dan.9:27 where "shabuwa` 'echad" is properly rendered as "one week" (which is the only place it is properly rendered). In the other places which it occurs, (before v.27) it is given in masculine gender and phonetically written almost as identical with the word for "seventy" (#7657 shab`iym) the only difference being in essence the equivalent of a jot or a tittle albeit the block form script "meat" of the letters are the same as #7657. It is therefore probable that the one is a word play on the other since also the two words are given together at the beginning of the prophecy (v.24). For instance the word employed by Daniel could have been used only here in this passage, (through all of Scripture this is the only place it is found) so as to seal up the book until the time of the end as he was told to do. It has therefore stood as a mystery to modern prophecy minds for the most part, (but it was not hidden to the apostles and writers of the original NT).

The only way that one may possibly understand the truth, as with all Scripture, is by the Holy Spirit and by allowing all Scripture to shape our understanding of the passage. The two words employed at the start of Dan.9:24 are nearly identical in the Hebrew yet are translated "Seventy weeks" (shabu`iym shib`iym). If the "shabu`iym" in question are in fact "generations" then the decree mentioned in v.24 (translated as "determined") speaks partially of the 1-Enoch decree of "seventy generations". The word "shabu`iym" then becomes ambidextrous in nature as a dual-meaning wordplay. On the one hand it would mean "generations" in the family grouping or familial sense of the word but also in a time oriented function when the reader understands by the Spirit what is meant within the text. However, at the same time it also serves for the dual purpose meaning of "weeks" within the same text. If this is the case then it certainly explains why it has been misunderstood for so long. It also explains why Luke placed sixty nine generational names in the Luke 3 genealogy from Enoch to Christ.

Yeshua may indeed have answered this very question to Peter, (in the statement concerning "seventy times seven"). Notice Yeshua says UNTIL seventy times seven. In much the same way as surmised herein, the statement suggests a time oriented nature by using the word UNTIL even though the nature of the remarks appear only to deal with forgiving ones brethren. In fact the entire passage concerns forgiveness of our brothers; Peter asks how often should we forgive our brother? The answer is essentially to forgive all "seventy families" of our brothers times seven, or "UNTIL seventy times seven" which suggests that there are indeed seventy families in the family tree of YHWH. This would make the "generations" of Dan.9 not only time frames but also generational families, (seventy family groups).

Matthew 18:21-22, 35 KJV
21. Then came Peter to him, and said, L-rd, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?
22. Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.
35. So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.


The implications are that there are seventy generations in the family tree of YHWH, both by these words of the Master and by the genealogy found in Luke 3. If there are indeed at least symbolically "seventy generations" then we should expect to find somewhere in the Scripture where sixty two generations returned to build Jerusalem according to the second part of the decree given in Daniel 9:25. The word translated "determined" by the KJV in Daniel 9:24, (HSN#2852 cathak) specifically means "to cut off" as in cutting off in sections, as in the distinct sections or ordinances of a decree. Since the decree given is stated to be "cathak" then the second portion or "cut out" is given in Dan.9:25 with the commandment to restore and rebuild Jerusalem.

Strong's Ref. #2852
Romanized  chathak
Pronounced khaw-thak'
a primitive root; properly, to cut off, i.e. (figuratively) to decree:
KJV--determine.

From the time that the word or command goes forth should then be "seven generations UNTIL Messiah" (as opposed to seven "weeks" which is generally accepted as a 49 year period) and this would explain why the "seven" is purposely separated from the "sixty and two". We also should expect then to find that indeed sixty two generations returned to rebuild the plaza-square and city ("wall" is simply not in the text). Ezra chapter 2 describes exactly that scenario, sixty two generations of family names returned from the time of Zerubbabel to the time of Ezra the Priest, Scribe, and Chronicler.
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The Chronicler-Chronologist  ~  Ezra the Priest and Scribe
The Return of the Families


Ezra 2:1-2 KJV
1. Now these are the children of the province that went up out of the captivity, of those which had been carried away, whom Nebuchadnezzar the king of Babylon had carried away unto Babylon, and came again unto Jerusalem and Judah, every one unto his city;
2. Which came with Zerubbabel: Jeshua, Nehemiah, Seraiah, Reelaiah, Mordecai, Bilshan, Mispar, Bigvai, Rehum, Baanah. The number of the men of the people of Israel:


The Cities  ~  39 Watches, Outposts, and Towns, (Jerusalem = 40 Total)

Ezra 2:3-35 KJV
3. The children of Parosh, two thousand an hundred seventy and two.
4. The children of Shephatiah, three hundred seventy and two.
5. The children of Arah, seven hundred seventy and five.
6. The children of Pahathmoab, of the children of Jeshua and Joab, two thousand eight hundred and twelve.
7. The children of Elam, a thousand two hundred fifty and four.
8. The children of Zattu, nine hundred forty and five.
9. The children of Zaccai, seven hundred and threescore.
10. The children of Bani, six hundred forty and two.
11. The children of Bebai, six hundred twenty and three.
12. The children of Azgad, a thousand two hundred twenty and two.
13. The children of Adonikam, six hundred sixty and six.
14. The children of Bigvai, two thousand fifty and six.
15. The children of Adin, four hundred fifty and four.
16. The children of Ater of Hezekiah, ninety and eight.
17. The children of Bezai, three hundred twenty and three.
18. The children of Jorah, an hundred and twelve.
19. The children of Hashum, two hundred twenty and three.
20. The children of Gibbar, ninety and five.
21. The children of Bethlehem, an hundred twenty and three.
22. The men of Netophah, fifty and six.
23. The men of Anathoth, an hundred twenty and eight.
24. The children of Azmaveth, forty and two.
25. The children of Kirjatharim, Chephirah, and Beeroth, seven hundred and forty and three.
26. The children of Ramah and Geba, six hundred twenty and one.
27. The men of Michmas, an hundred twenty and two.
28. The men of Bethel and Ai, two hundred twenty and three.
29. The children of Nebo, fifty and two.
30. The children of Magbish, an hundred fifty and six.
31. The children of the other Elam, a thousand two hundred fifty and four.
32. The children of Harim, three hundred and twenty.
33. The children of Lod, Hadid, and Ono, seven hundred twenty and five.
34. The children of Jericho, three hundred forty and five.
35. The children of Senaah, three thousand and six hundred and thirty.


The Priests  ~  4 Families

Ezra 2:36-39 KJV
36. The priests: the children of Jedaiah, of the house of Jeshua, nine hundred seventy and three.
37. The children of Immer, a thousand fifty and two.
38. The children of Pashur, a thousand two hundred forty and seven.
39. The children of Harim, a thousand and seventeen.


The Levites, the Singers, and the Porters  ~  10 Families

Ezra 2:40-42 KJV
40. The Levites: the children of Jeshua and Kadmiel, of the children of Hodaviah, seventy and four.
41. The singers: the children of Asaph, an hundred twenty and eight.
42. The children of the porters: the children of Shallum, the children of Ater, the children of Talmon, the children of Akkub, the children of Hatita, the children of Shobai, in all an hundred thirty and nine.


The Nethinims and the children of Solomon's Servants  ~  45 Families

Ezra 2:43-58 KJV
43. The Nethinims: the children of Ziha, the children of Hasupha, the children of Tabbaoth,
44. The children of Keros, the children of Siaha, the children of Padon,
45. The children of Lebanah, the children of Hagabah, the children of Akkub,
46. The children of Hagab, the children of Shalmai, the children of Hanan,
47. The children of Giddel, the children of Gahar, the children of Reaiah,
48. The children of Rezin, the children of Nekoda, the children of Gazzam,
49. The children of Uzza, the children of Paseah, the children of Besai,
50. The children of Asnah, the children of Mehunim, the children of Nephusim,
51. The children of Bakbuk, the children of Hakupha, the children of Harhur,
52. The children of Bazluth, the children of Mehida, the children of Harsha,
53. The children of Barkos, the children of Sisera, the children of Thamah,
54. The children of Neziah, the children of Hatipha.
55. The children of Solomon's servants: the children of Sotai, the children of Sophereth, the children of Peruda,
56. The children of Jaalah, the children of Darkon, the children of Giddel,
57. The children of Shephatiah, the children of Hattil, the children of Pochereth of Zebaim, the children of Ami.
58. All the Nethinims, and the children of Solomon's servants, were three hundred ninety and two.


No Record of Lineage (still included in the count)  ~  3 Families

Ezra 2:59-60 KJV
59. And these were they which went up from Telmelah, Telharsa, cherub, Addan, and Immer: but they could not shew their father's house, and their seed, whether they were of Israel:
60. The children of Delaiah, the children of Tobiah, the children of Nekoda, six hundred fifty and two.


4 + 10 + 45 + 3  =  62 Generational Family Names

These are the sixty and two generations which returned to rebuild Jerusalem according to the Daniel 9:25 prophecy. They are the same sixty two generations which were foretold to return before Messiah was to arrive and cut the covenant. The Chronicler completes the chronology, ending the family count at 62 families, (at verse 62) by filling in two verses with the following:

Ezra 2:61-62 KJV
61. And of the children of the priests: the children of Habaiah, the children of Koz, the children of Barzillai; which took a wife of the daughters of Barzillai the Gileadite, and was called after their name:
62. These sought their register among those that were reckoned by genealogy, but they were not found: therefore were they, as polluted, put from the priesthood.


No doubt it is by design that Ezra 2 closes in a complete 70 verses:

Ezra 2:63-70 KJV
63. And the Tirshatha said unto them, that they should not eat of the most holy things, till there stood up a priest with Urim and with Thummim.
64. The whole congregation together was forty and two thousand three hundred and threescore,
65. Beside their servants and their maids, of whom there were seven thousand three hundred thirty and seven: and there were among them two hundred singing men and singing women.
66. Their horses were seven hundred thirty and six; their mules, two hundred forty and five;
67. Their camels, four hundred thirty and five; their asses, six thousand seven hundred and twenty.
68. And some of the chief of the fathers, when they came to the house of the L-rd which is at Jerusalem, offered freely for the house of G-d to set it up in his place:
69. They gave after their ability unto the treasure of the work threescore and one thousand drams of gold, and five thousand pound of silver, and one hundred priests' garments.
70. So the priests, and the Levites, and some of the people, and the singers, and the porters, and the Nethinims, dwelt in their cities, and all Israel in their cities.


Now therefore we find a curious statement inserted into the Luke 3 genealogy which makes perfect sense in this light. Luke inserts the following statement just before the genealogy:

ALL THE PEOPLE WERE BAPTIZED BEFORE CHRIST CAME

The implications are that all of those families which had returned from the captivity, of those who were interested in the kingdom of heaven, which kingdom had been prophesied to come at around this time with the advent of Meshiach, (they knew from Daniel) and which had their hearts prepared, (willing to be baptized) and were seeking righteousness and holiness, and wanting to be part of the plan of YHWH, all of them were FIRST baptized into the baptism of John the Baptist. Then when Christ Yeshua came, John pointed them all to Yeshua, the Lamb of YHWH who takes away the sins of the world, the anointed Mashiyach Prince prophesied in Dan.9:24-27.

Luke 3:21-38 KJV
21.  Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened,
22. And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.
23. And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,
24. Which was the son of Matthat, which was the son of Levi, which was the son of Melchi, which was the son of Janna, which was the son of Joseph,
25. Which was the son of Mattathias, which was the son of Amos, which was the son of Naum, which was the son of Esli, which was the son of Nagge,
26. Which was the son of Maath, which was the son of Mattathias, which was the son of Semei, which was the son of Joseph, which was the son of Juda,
27. Which was the son of Joanna, which was the son of Rhesa, which was the son of Zorobabel, which was the son of Salathiel, which was the son of Neri,
28. Which was the son of Melchi, which was the son of Addi, which was the son of Cosam, which was the son of Elmodam, which was the son of Er,
29. Which was the son of Jose, which was the son of Eliezer, which was the son of Jorim, which was the son of Matthat, which was the son of Levi,
30. Which was the son of Simeon, which was the son of Juda, which was the son of Joseph, which was the son of Jonan, which was the son of Eliakim,
31. Which was the son of Melea, which was the son of Menan, which was the son of Mattatha, which was the son of Nathan, which was the son of David,
32. Which was the son of Jesse, which was the son of Obed, which was the son of Booz, which was the son of Salmon, which was the son of Naasson,
33. Which was the son of Aminadab, which was the son of Aram, which was the son of Esrom, which was the son of Phares, which was the son of Juda,
34. Which was the son of Jacob, which was the son of Isaac, which was the son of Abraham, which was the son of Thara, which was the son of Nachor,
35. Which was the son of Saruch, which was the son of Ragau, which was the son of Phalec, which was the son of Heber, which was the son of Sala,
36. Which was the son of Cainan, which was the son of Arphaxad, which was the son of Sem, which was the son of Noe, which was the son of Lamech,
37. Which was the son of Mathusala, which was the son of Enoch, which was the son of Jared, which was the son of Maleleel, which was the son of Cainan,
38. Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of G-d.


76 - 7  =  69 Generations from Enoch to Christ.

And all of those willing in heart were first baptized into John.
Then came Yeshua and folded all into himself and Daniel 9 was set in order.
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Daniel 9:24-27 KJV
24. Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
25. Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
26. And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
27. And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Daniel 9:24 Strong's Ref. Numbers
24.
   |7657| [shib`iym] Seventy
   |0000| [shabu`iym] weeks [generations]
   |2852| [cathak] are decreed
   |5921| [`al] as to
   |5971| [`am] your people [`am-ka]
   |5921| [`al] and as to
   |5892| [`iyr] city
   |6944| [qodesh] your holy [qadshe-ka]
   |3607| [kala'] to restrain
   |6588| [pesha`] the transgression
   |8552| [tamam] and to perfect
   |2856| [catham] to close up, to seal, to end
   |2403| [chatta'ah] sins and the expiation sacrifice penalty thereof
   |3722| [kaphar] and to atone for, to cover, to expiate
   |5771| [`avon] iniquity,
   |0935| [bow'] and for the bringing in
   |6664| [tsedeq] of righteousness
   |5769| [`owlam] everlasting,
   |2856| [chatham] and to seal up
   |2377| [chazown] vision
   |5030| [nabiy'] and prophecy
   |4886| [mashach] and to anoint
   |6944| [qodesh] the Holy
   |6944| [qodesh] Most Holy.


Blue Letter Bible Concordance:
http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Dan&c=9#conc/24

Daniel 9:24 TUA (Transliterated Unaccented Bible)
24. Shabu`iym shib`iym nechtak `al- `amka w`al- `iyrqadsheka lkale' hapesha`, uwlhatem {*} chaTa't {*},uwlkaper `awon, uwlhabiy' tsedeq `olamiym, wlachtom chazownwnabiy', wlimshoach qodesh qadashiym.

24. Seventy weeks [generations] have been decreed concerning your people, and concerning your city holy, for to restrain the transgression, and for to perfect the closing up of sins and the sacrificial penalty thereof, and for to atone for iniquity, and for to bring in righteousness everlasting, and for to close up vision and prophecy, and for to anoint the Holy most Holy.

Daniel 9:25 TUA (Transliterated Unaccented Bible)
25. Wteda` wtaskel min- motsa' dabar lhashiyb wlibnowtYruwshalaim, `ad- Mashiyach, nagiyd, shabu`iym shib`ah.Wshabu`iym shishiym uwshnayim tashuwb wnibntah rchowbwcharuwts uwbtsowq ha`itiym.

25. Therefore know and discern that from the going forth of the word, to restore and to rebuild Jerusalem, unto Mashiyach Prince, seven generations. And generations sixty and two shall return, and shall build the broad place [square] and the hard digging even in the troubles of the times.

Daniel 9:26 TUA (Transliterated Unaccented Bible)
26. W'achrey hashabu`iymshishiym uwshnayim yikaret Mashiyach w'eyn low.  Wha`iyrwhaqodesh yashchiyt `am nagiyd haba'.  Wqitsow basheTep, w`adqets milchamah -- nechretset shomemowt.

26. And after the generations sixty and two shall Mashiyach cut, but not for himself. And the people of the Prince that shall come shall corrupt [#7843 shachath] the city, even the holy, and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.

Strong's Ref. #7843
Romanized  shachath
Pronounced shaw-khath'
a primitive root; to decay, i.e. (causatively) ruin (literally or figuratively):
KJV--batter, cast off, corrupt(-er, thing), destroy(-er, -uction), lose, mar, perish, spill, spoiler, X utterly, waste(-r).

Strong's Ref. #3772
Romanized  karath
Pronounced kaw-rath'
a primitive root; to cut (off, down or asunder); by implication, to destroy or consume; specifically, to covenant (i.e. make an alliance or bargain, originally by cutting flesh and passing between the pieces):
KJV--be chewed, be con-[feder-]ate, covenant, cut (down, off), destroy, fail, feller, be freed, hew (down), make a league ([covenant]), X lose, perish, X utterly, X want.

The phrase "Mashiyach shall cut" means he will "CUT IN COVENANT" (and not necessarily that Messiah will be "cut off"). This is born out by the fact that the Jews of the time were not expecting Messiah to die or be "cut off". Therefore they understood the passage to mean that the anointed Prince would cut a covenant, but not for himself. The word "karath" means primarily TO CUT, and even by the Strong's definition it was originally to cut by "passing between the pieces" as the covenant with Abram. In the same way Yeshua cut the week in half and placed the church age into the midst of the week. It is the very same terminology used of the covenant which was made with Abraham and the very same word "karath" is employed in the very same way:

Genesis 15:18 LIT
18.
   |3117| On day
   |1931| that
   |3772| cut
   |3068| YHWH
   |0000| with
   |0087| Abram
   |1285| a covenant
   |0559| saying,
   |2233| to your seed
   |5414| I have given
   |0853| -
   |0776| land
   |0000| this
   |5104| from the River of
   |4714| Egypt
   |5704| to
   |5104| the River
   |1419| Great,
   |5104| the River
   |6578| Euphrates;
   |0853| -

Genesis 15:18 TUA
18. Bayowm hahuw' karat YHWH 'et- 'Abram briytle'mor lzar`ka natatiy 'et- ha'arets hazo't minhar Mitsrayim`ad- hanahar hagadol nhar- Prat.

Genesis 15:18 KJV
18. In the same day the L-rd made [cut] a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:

Daniel 9:27 TUA (Transliterated Unaccented Bible)
27. Whigbiyr briytlarabiym shabuwa` 'echad.  Wachtsiy hashabuwa` yashbiytzebach uwminchah.  W`al knap shiquwtsiym mshomem, w`ad- kalahwnechratsah titak `al- shomem.

27. And [he] shall confirm [mighty, prevail, strengthen] the covenant for the many one week. And the midst of the week he shall put to rest sacrifice and oblation. And upon the overspreading of abominations he shall make desolate, even unto the consummation, and that [which is] determined shall be poured out upon the desolate.

Yeshua cut the WEEK of Sukkot-Tabernacles in HALF

John 7:2-14 KJV
2. Now the Jews' feast of tabernacles was at hand.
3. His brethren therefore said unto him, Depart hence, and go into Judaea, that thy disciples also may see the works that thou doest.
4. For there is no man that doeth any thing in secret, and he himself seeketh to be known openly. If thou do these things, shew thyself to the world.
5. For neither did his brethren believe in him.
6. Then Jesus said unto them, My time is not yet come: but your time is alway ready.
7. The world cannot hate you; but me it hateth, because I testify of it, that the works thereof are evil.
8. Go ye up unto this feast: I go not up yet unto this feast; for my time is not yet full come.
9. When he had said these words unto them, he abode still in Galilee.
10. But when his brethren were gone up, then went he also up unto the feast, not openly, but as it were in secret.
11. Then the Jews sought him at the feast, and said, Where is he?
12. And there was much murmuring among the people concerning him: for some said, He is a good man: others said, Nay; but he deceiveth the people.
13. Howbeit no man spake openly of him for fear of the Jews.
14. Now about the midst of the feast Jesus went up into the temple, and taught.


Sukkot III - Tabernacles-Booths III  =  Tishri 17
Pesach II - First-Fruits Wave Sheaf  =  Nisan 16-17 (the year of the Crucifixion)
Tishri 17  ~  Nisan 16  =  180 Days


There are three Passovers mentioned in the Gospel of John, (which are one full year) but the public Temple Ministry of Christ was a mere 180 days, (half of 360). It is the same as was portrayed in the typology of the great 180-day feast of king Ahasuerus. John Ch.7 quoted above had taken place after the first two Passovers, (14 Nisan and the second Passover "festival" of the second month, 14 Iyyar) of the full one-year ministry of Yeshua.

Public Temple Ministry of Christ  =  180 Days (half of 360)

Esther 1:2-4 KJV
2. That in those days, when the king Ahasuerus sat on the throne of his kingdom, which was in Shushan the palace,
3. In the third year of his reign, he made a feast unto all his princes and his servants; the power of Persia and Media, the nobles and princes of the provinces, being before him:
4. When he shewed the riches of his glorious kingdom and the honour of his excellent majesty many days, even an hundred and fourscore days.


Next - The much disregarded Ezra4 chronology, the going forth of the commandment to restore and rebuild Jerusalem, (first given in Torah) and the time oriented implications of those items in relationship to the Daniel 9 Seventy Weeks.

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The chronology laid out in Ezra 4 is widely ignored by the modern shepherds and their fellow chronologists including even the Jews. For this reason there is much confusion and debate over which so called decree is the one spoken of in Daniel9. Some say the supposed Ezra decree of 458BC, others rely upon a fictitious Nehemiah decree of 444BC, and they all have their timelines and dates set out even to the day. I would prefer not to delve into any of these because for one, I already have, and for two, they rely solely upon Bible chronology albeit by those who disregard Ezra4. For instance, there is no document or historical record to be found of any so-called Nehemiah decree dated to 444BC nor is there any document, stone tablet, monolith, etc., of any sort proving the Ezra 458-457BC date. Those dates are simply assumed from the perceived chronology of the chronologists themselves. However, if the chronologist ignores Ezra4, (or explains it away with unreasonable and untenable hypothesis) then his chronology bears the results of the confusion which we see today. Ezra4 matches precisely the attested historical record. The Persian kings list given in Ezra4 is attested as historical fact and may be found online, even at the least of which reliable sites is wikipedia.

Historically attested Medo-Persian kings and their dates of reign:

The Achaemenid Empire

550-530 BC - Cyrus II the Great, son of Cambyses I
529-522 BC - Cambyses II, son of Cyrus the Great
522 BC - Smerdis (Bardiya), alleged son of Cyrus the Great
521-486 BC - Darius I the Great, brother-in-law of Smerdis
485-465 BC - Xerxes I the Great, son of Darius I
465-424 BC - Artaxerxes I Longimanus, son of Xerxes I
424 BC - Xerxes II, son of Artaxerxes I
424-423 BC - Sogdianus, half-brother and rival of Xerxes II
423-405 BC - Darius II Nothus, half-brother and rival of Xerxes II
404-359 BC - Artaxerxes II Mnemon, son of Darius II
358-338 BC - Artaxerxes III Ochus, son of Artaxerxes II
338-336 BC - Artaxerxes IV Arses, son of Artaxerxes III
336-330 BC - Darius III Codomannus, great-grandson of Darius II

"Smerdis" reigned less than one year, (about eight months) and Xerxes II also only reigned one year. The primary kings which are identified in Ezra4 would be the following:

550-522 BC - Cyrus II the Great (including Cambyses II and Smerdis)
521-486 BC - Darius I the Great
485-465 BC - Xerxes I the Great (the same is Ahasuerus of Esther)
465-424 BC - Artaxerxes I Longimanus
423-405 BC - Darius II Nothus (the time of Zechariah and Haggai)
404-359 BC - Artaxerxes II Mnemon (Ezra - Nehemiah)

The building of the Temple at Jerusalem was halted, (for 70 years according to Zech.1:12). The drought and famine in the land is also evident in Haggai and may refer to spiritual drought and famine. YHWH had begun to bring back the people to the land first under Sheshbazzar. Zerubbabel then came 49 years later and the foundation of the Temple was laid. However, a problem arose when the priests and the ancients saw the small area and size of the foundation and began to murmur, complain, and wail. Thus the people were brought back and then while they were in the land it rested and enjoyed its Sabbaths, (that seventy was not spent in physical Babylon: in this "philosophy" the children of Israel are the "land"). Tyre also was "forgotten seventy years" as Isaiah had prophesied, (Isa.23:15) then Yeshua paid a visit to Tyre, (Mrk.7:24) as Isa.23:17 also had prophesied.

If the chronology allows for the first group to return to the land and then to be documented in the hall of records, (as is recorded in Ezra and Nehemiah) then the first group which began returning under Sheshbazzar took about 49 years to complete, (539BC decree of Cyrus to 491BC in the reign of Darius I). Then would have come Zerubbabel and codified those which had returned by their families and names. Both Sheshbazzar and Zerubbabel are Babylonian-Persian names, (it is highly unlikely that one Jew would have two alternate Babylonian names and thus they are probably not the same person as is purported by the modern chronologists). When Zerubbabel arrived with the last large group of families he took an accounting of all those with him and those which had returned in the years before him from Sheshbazzar to his present time, (492BC). The seventy years which the Temple construction was put off then ran from the laying of the foundation in 491BC until 421BC which was the second year of Darius II Nothus (not Darius I) when Zechariah and Haggai prophesied. With this outline Ezra4 is a perfect match to the attested historical facts.

Ezra 3:7-13 KJV
7. They gave money also unto the masons, and to the carpenters; and meat, and drink, and oil, unto them of Zidon, and to them of Tyre, to bring cedar trees from Lebanon to the sea of Joppa, according to the grant that they had of Cyrus king of Persia.
8. Now in the second year of their coming unto the house of G-d at Jerusalem, (491BC) in the second month, began Zerubbabel the son of Shealtiel, and Jeshua the son of Jozadak, and the remnant of their brethren the priests and the Levites, and all they that were come out of the captivity unto Jerusalem; and appointed the Levites, from twenty years old and upward, to set forward the work of the house of the L-rd.
9. Then stood Jeshua with his sons and his brethren, Kadmiel and his sons, the sons of Judah, together, to set forward the workmen in the house of G-d: the sons of Henadad, with their sons and their brethren the Levites.
10. And when the builders laid the foundation of the temple of the L-rd, they set the priests in their apparel with trumpets, and the Levites the sons of Asaph with cymbals, to praise the L-rd, after the ordinance of David king of Israel.
11. And they sang together by course in praising and giving thanks unto the L-rd; because he is good, for his mercy endureth for ever toward Israel. And all the people shouted with a great shout, when they praised the L-rd, because the foundation of the house of the L-rd was laid.
12. But many of the priests and Levites and chief of the fathers, who were ancient men, that had seen the first house, when the foundation of this house was laid before their eyes, wept with a loud voice; and many shouted aloud for joy:
13. So that the people could not discern the noise of the shout of joy from the noise of the weeping of the people: for the people shouted with a loud shout, and the noise was heard afar off.


Josephus attests to this very same schism which occurred, and it was bad news because what the Scripture implies is that the weeping and wailing, (murmuring) was in conflict with the joy of the younger generation so much so that both got louder and louder so as to drown out the other until the noise brought the attention of the surrounding heathen, (the noise was heard afar off).

Ezra 4:3-7 KJV
3. But Zerubbabel, and Jeshua, and the rest of the chief of the fathers of Israel, said unto them, Ye have nothing to do with us to build an house unto our G-d; but we ourselves together will build unto the L-rd G-d of Israel, as king Cyrus the king of Persia hath commanded us.
4. Then the people of the land weakened the hands of the people of Judah, and troubled them in building,
5. And hired counsellers against them, to frustrate their purpose, all the days of Cyrus king of Persia, even until the reign of Darius king of Persia. (Darius I, 521-486BC)
6. And in the reign of Ahasuerus, (Xerxes I, 485-465BC) in the beginning of his reign, wrote they unto him an accusation against the inhabitants of Judah and Jerusalem.
7. And in the days of Artaxerxes (Artaxerxes I, 465-424BC) wrote Bishlam, Mithredath, Tabeel, and the rest of their companions, unto Artaxerxes king of Persia; and the writing of the letter was written in the Syrian tongue, and interpreted in the Syrian tongue.


The Scripture then states that Artaxerxes I, when he received the letter, decided to put an end to this ambitious building project until further notice. The decree of Cyrus is not mentioned in the letter because the letter is sent by the adversaries of Judah. The Cyrus decree is now so dated that Artaxerxes I does not know of it. The heathen round about lie about the situation and proclaim that the Jews have even set up the wall round about the city.

Ezra 4:18-24 KJV
18. The letter which ye sent unto us hath been plainly read before me.
19. And I commanded, and search hath been made, and it is found that this city of old time hath made insurrection against kings, and that rebellion and sedition have been made therein.
20. There have been mighty kings also over Jerusalem, which have ruled over all countries beyond the river; and toll, tribute, and custom, was paid unto them.
21. Give ye now commandment to cause these men to cease, and that this city be not builded, until another commandment shall be given from me.
22. Take heed now that ye fail not to do this: why should damage grow to the hurt of the kings?
23. Now when the copy of king Artaxerxes' letter was read before Rehum, and Shimshai the scribe, and their companions, they went up in haste to Jerusalem unto the Jews, and made them to cease by force and power.
24. Then ceased the work of the house of G-d which is at Jerusalem. So it ceased unto the second year of the reign of Darius king of Persia (Darius II Nothus, 423-405BC).


The second year of Darius II Nothus was 422-421BC and is historically attested and accurate. The same date is exactly seventy years from 491BC which are the same seventy years of Zech.1:12 and Isa.23:15. All of this concerns only the building of the Temple and not yet even the city itself, (which is the focus of the Dan.9 prophecy). The monies given to Tyre for supplies in Ezra3:7 were not yet reimbursed with trees, building supplies, etc., because the project was interrupted by the murmurings of the priests and the ancients and the heathen round about who took notice. Thus, Tyre was "forgotten seventy years as the years of one king" (491-421BC). Ezra the scribe sets all of this chronology out before he gives the account of his own arrival, it is the history and record of what had already transpired from his vantage point. Darius II gives the permission to continue the building of the Temple after a search is made in the halls of records and the old decree of Cyrus is then found. Darius II Nothus is so frightened by the news, (because the laws of the Medes and the Persians cannot be broken) that he commands not only the completion of the Temple but sends offerings and supplies over and above the original decree of Cyrus while asking prayer and supplication be made for himself and his sons for the mistake, (Ezra6). Then we read the following:

Ezra 7:1-6 KJV
1. Now after these things, in the reign of Artaxerxes king of Persia, Ezra the son of Seraiah, the son of Azariah, the son of Hilkiah,
2. The son of Shallum, the son of Zadok, the son of Ahitub,
3. The son of Amariah, the son of Azariah, the son of Meraioth,
4. The son of Zerahiah, the son of Uzzi, the son of Bukki,
5. The son of Abishua, the son of Phinehas, the son of Eleazar, the son of Aaron the chief priest:
6. This Ezra went up from Babylon; and he was a ready scribe in the law of Moses, which the L-rd G-d of Israel had given: and the king granted him all his request, according to the hand of the L-rd his G-d upon him.


Those who claim that Ezra the SCRIBE meant something other than what is written in Ezra4 are only fooling themselves to support their own chronologies. Ezra the priest and scribe, which also probably wrote the Chronicles, (leaving the originals intact as any good chronologist would do as is also evident in the genealogical records of Ezra and Nehemiah, the one being slightly corrected from the other) this same Ezra had arrived in Judah during the reign of Artaxerxes II Mnemon, (404-359BC). In fact, rabbinical tradition was that Ezra died in the year 323 BCE in the same year as Alexander the Great. The older rabbinical authorities, (cf. Seder Olam Rabbah 30) hold the view that the death of Ezra occurred in the year concurrent or equivalent to what is now circa 323 BCE and thus was synonymous with the death of Alexander the Great.

Josephus also affirms another most valuable documentary evidence concerning this time period when he states that Sanballat was contemporary with Alexander the Great and was a key player in the region when the Grecian army came through Palestine. The Sanballat of Josephus is no doubt the same antagonist as the Sanballat the Horonite of the book of Nehemiah. Josephus clearly shows that Sanballat was deeply involved in the Jewish-Samaritan politics of the time in question and that it was at the time of the Battle of Granicum, the final Darius, and the end of the Persian kingdom.

Nehemiah 4:1 KJV
1. But it came to pass, that when Sanballat heard that we builded the wall, he was wroth, and took great indignation, and mocked the Jews.

Nehemiah 13:28-29 KJV
28. And one of the sons of Joiada, the son of Eliashib the high priest, was son in law to Sanballat the Horonite: therefore I chased him from me.
29. Remember them, O my G-d, because they have defiled the priesthood, and the covenant of the priesthood, and of the Levites.


This division in the priesthood is much of the focus of "the kings of the north and south" of Dan.11, (the negev-south is Judah and the north is Samaria and its profane newly built temple at Mt Gerizzim, the priests are also sometimes viewed as "kings" in Scripture).

Josephus Antiquities Book 11 Chapter 7:2
2. Now when John had departed this life, his son Jaddua succeeded in the high priesthood. He had a brother, whose name was Manasseh. :Now there was one Sanballat, who was sent by Darius, the last king [of Persia], into Samaria. He was a Cutheam by birth; of which stock were the Samaritans also. This man knew that the city Jerusalem was a famous city, and that their kings had given a great deal of trouble to the Assyrians, and the people of Celesyria; so that he willingly gave his daughter, whose name was Nicaso, in marriage to Manasseh, as thinking this alliance by marriage would be a pledge and security that the nation of the Jews should continue their good-will to him.

Josephus Antiquities Book 11 Chapter 8:1-3a
CONCERNING SANBALLAT AND MANASSEH, AND THE TEMPLE WHICH THEY BUILT ON MOUNT GERIZZIM; AS ALSO HOW ALEXANDER MADE HIS ENTRY INTO THE CITY JERUSALEM, AND WHAT BENEFITS HE BESTOWED ON THE JEWS.

1. ABOUT this time it was that Philip, king of Macedon, was treacherously assaulted and slain at Egae by Pausanias, the son of Cerastes, who was derived from the family of Oreste, and his son Alexander succeeded him in the kingdom; who, passing over the Hellespont, overcame the generals of Darius's army in a battle fought at Granicum. So he marched over Lydia, and subdued Ionia, and overran Caria, and fell upon the places of Pamphylia, as has been related elsewhere.

2. But the elders of Jerusalem being very uneasy that the brother of Jaddua the high priest, though married to a foreigner, should be a partner with him in the high priesthood, quarreled with him; for they esteemed this man's marriage a step to such as should be desirous of transgressing about the marriage of [strange] wives, and that this would be the beginning of a mutual society with foreigners, although the offense of some about marriages, and their having married wives that were not of their own country, had been an occasion of their former captivity, and of the miseries they then underwent; so they commanded Manasseh to divorce his wife, or not to approach the altar, the high priest himself joining with the people in their indignation against his brother, and driving him away from the altar. Whereupon Manasseh came to his father-in-law, Sanballat, and told him, that although he loved his daughter Nicaso, yet was he not willing to be deprived of his sacerdotal dignity on her account, which was the principal dignity in their nation, and always continued in the same family. And then Sanballat promised him not only to preserve to him the honor of his priesthood, but to procure for him the power and dignity of a high priest, and would make him governor of all the places he himself now ruled, if he would keep his daughter for his wife. He also told him further, that he would build him a temple like that at Jerusalem, upon Mount Gerizzini, which is the highest of all the mountains that are in Samaria; and he promised that he would do this with the approbation of Darius the king. Manasseh was elevated with these promises, and staid with Sanballat, upon a supposal that he should gain a high priesthood, as bestowed on him by Darius, for it happened that Sanballat was then in years. But there was now a great disturbance among the people of Jerusalem, because many of those priests and Levites were entangled in such matches; for they all revolted to Manasseh, and Sanballat afforded them money, and divided among them land for tillage, and habitations also, and all this in order every way to gratify his son-in-law.

3. About this time it was that Darius heard how Alexander had passed over the Hellespont, and had beaten his lieutenants in the battle at Granicum, and was proceeding further; whereupon he gathered together an army of horse and foot, and determined that he would meet the Macedonians before they should assault and conquer all Asia. So he passed over the river Euphrates, and came over Taurus, the Cilician mountain, and at Issus of Cilicia he waited for the enemy, as ready there to give him battle. Upon which Sanballat was glad that Darius was come down; and told Manasseh that he would suddenly perform his promises to him, and this as soon as ever Darius should come back, after he had beaten his enemies; for not he only, but all those that were in Asia also, were persuaded that the Macedonians would not so much as come to a battle with the Persians, on account of their multitude. But the event proved otherwise than they expected; for the king joined battle with the Macedonians, and was beaten, and lost a great part of his army. His mother also, and his wife and children, were taken captives, and he fled into Persia. So Alexander came into Syria, and took Damascus; and when he had obtained Sidon, he besieged Tyre, when he sent all epistle to the Jewish high priest, to send him some auxiliaries, and to supply his army with provisions; and that what presents he formerly sent to Darius, he would now send to him, and choose the friendship of the Macedonians, and that he should never repent of so doing...
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So then, Daniel 11:2 very likely pertains to three "kings" (rulers) of the line of David according to the promise made to him from YHWH. However, Ezra was a direct descendent of Levi-Aaron, not Judah, (compare 1Chr6:1-15 with Ezra7:1-6 lineage posted above, Ezra is of the same lineage as Jeshua son of Jehozadak). And hence the curious statement of Dan.11:2 "and the fourth shall be far richer than they all"… (but no mention of the fourth as a "king").

1) Sheshbazzar - Prince of Judah - appointed by Cyrus.
2) Zerubbabel - Governor of Judah - Darius I
3) Nehemiah - Governor-Tirshatha of Judah - appointed by Artaxerxes II.
4) Ezra (not a "king" but fourth and far richer than all: Torah Scribe).

What would stir up all the realm of Greece? Greece is the he-goat of Dan.8 not touching the ground, the prince of the power of the air, (Dan.8:5, Dan.11:3, and Alexander is the first king). Torah learning, Torah studies, and true Torah teaching: Ezra stirred up the prince of the power of the air, the Prince of Greece, and thus Dan.11 follows the priesthood and spiritual battles between Judah (Negev) and Samaria (the king of the North) until the time of Herod and of Christ the Prince of the Covenant of Dan.11:22.

However, this all pertains to a whole different "thread" of information. The point is that Ezra passed on in the same year that Alexander died at Babylon, which was 323BC, WHICH WAS A YEAR OF JUBILEE (if we allow the Scripture to simply mean what it says). We have a fair amount of certainty that 573BC was a Jubilee from the information given in Ezekiel 40:1, the text even includes the words "Rosh Hashanah" ("the head of the year") and as it was the tenth day of the month, which is Yom Kippur when the Jubilee is to be proclaimed, and the 25th year of the captivity, and the 14th year after the city was smitten, (573BC). There are plenty of great articles to be found searching the internet concerning the 573BC-Jubilee topic. If we simply allow the Jubilee to be exactly 50 years total (inclusive) then they are chronologically very easy to figure on any timeline. The Exodus would have taken place 40 years before at least the beginning of the counting. The first Jubilee would have been observed from the entry into Canaan at Passover and the second circumcision at Gilgal: "And the manna ceased on the morrow after they had eaten of the old corn of the land; neither had the children of Israel manna any more; but they did eat of the fruit of the land of Canaan that year" (Joshua 5:11). Then every 49+1 years thereafter on a calendar or timeline would have been a Year of Jubilee:

1573, 1523, 1373, 1323, until 573BC, then to 423BC, (Darius II) 323BC, etc.

From here it becomes fairly simplified as Scripture lays it out in Nehemiah.

404-359BC - Artaxerxes II Mnemon
385BC - 20th year of Artaxerxes (Nehemiah 2:1)
373BC (Jubilee) - 32nd Year of Artaxerxes (Nehemiah 5:14, 13:6)

The problem arises because of the statement in Nehemiah 6:15 concerning the wall being completed in the fifty and second day. The word "yowm" is singular (not "yowmiym" which would be plural, "days"). The Young's Literal Bible Translation correctly translates the verse.

Nehemiah 6:15 KJV
15. So the wall was finished in the twenty and fifth day of the month Elul, in fifty and two days.

Nehemiah 6:15 TUA (Transliterated Unaccented)
15. Watishlam hachowmah b`esriym wachmishah le-'Eluwl --lachmishiym uwshnayim yowm!

Nehemiah 6:15 YGB (Young's Bible Translation)
15. And the wall is completed in the twenty and fifth of Elul, on the fifty and second day;


Anyone who gives a serious inquiry into the book of Nehemiah will quickly see that there is no way that the entire wall was built in a mere 52 days according to the account given by Nehemiah himself, (also that would not match the prophecy of Dan.9 of occurring "in the troubles of the times"). The Neh.6:15 statement is an idiom, the wall was finished in the 52nd day but the portion spoken of in the passage includes ONLY THE STANDING UP OF THE GATES. The entire wall was more likely built in 62 years and the final portion of the wall, (the standing up of the gates into their openings) was completed in the 52nd day of the return of Nehemiah to Jerusalem, in the 62nd year of building the wall. Nehemiah makes it clear that only the doors of the gates are left to be stood up at the beginning of the passage:

Nehemiah 6:1 KJV
1. Now it came to pass when Sanballat, and Tobiah, and Geshem the Arabian, and the rest of our enemies, heard that I had builded the wall, and that there was no breach left therein; (though at that time I had not set up the doors upon the gates;)


Nehemiah had arrived in the twentieth year of Artaxerxes II Mnemon (385BC) to begin the building the wall. He was in Jerusalem for twelve years, (as Tirshatha-Governor) until the thirty second year of Artaxerxes and then returned to Babylon. He then came back to hang the doors of the gates when the work of the circuit of the wall was completed and all that was remaining was the standing up of the doors into their openings or gates.

Nehemiah 13:6-7 KJV
6. But in all this time was not I at Jerusalem: for in the two and thirtieth year of Artaxerxes king of Babylon came I unto the king, and after certain days obtained I leave of the king:
7. And I came to Jerusalem, and understood of the evil that Eliashib did for Tobiah, in preparing him a chamber in the courts of the house of G-d.


If we understand that the entire wall project entailed sixty two years then the timeline would be thus:

404-359BC - Artaxerxes II Mnemon
385BC - 20th year of Artaxerxes - Nehemiah comes to Jerusalem.
373BC (Jubilee) - 32nd Year of Artaxerxes - Nehemiah returns to Babylon.

385BC - Arrival of Nehemiah in Jerusalem - The Wall is begun.
385BC subtract 62 Years  =  323BC - Nehemiah returns to Jerusalem.
323BC (Jubilee) - The Wall is completed the 52nd day of Nehemiah's return.

By the following we can know the timing is true:

Nehemiah 13:28 KJV
28. And one of the sons of Joiada, the son of Eliashib the high priest, was son in law to Sanballat the Horonite: therefore I chased him from me.


Not only has Eliashib already served as high priest but the Book of Nehemiah, (which according to the modern shepherds was supposed to have closed the canon of Scripture some four hundred years before Christ) actually lists the descendants of Jeshua son of Jehozadak to the time of Jaddua. Jaddua was high priest when Alexander came through even according to the famous Josephus story of the dream vision which Alexander had received of Jaddua and the procession of the priests in the white robes as he approached the city of Jerusalem, (Jos.Ant.Bk.11.Ch.8:4-5).

Nehemiah 12:10-22 KJV
10. And Jeshua begat Joiakim, Joiakim also begat Eliashib, and Eliashib begat Joiada,
11. And Joiada begat Jonathan, and Jonathan begat Jaddua.
12. And in the days of Joiakim were priests, the chief of the fathers: of Seraiah, Meraiah; of Jeremiah, Hananiah;
13. Of Ezra, Meshullam; of Amariah, Jehohanan;
14. Of Melicu, Jonathan; of Shebaniah, Joseph;
15. Of Harim, Adna; of Meraioth, Helkai;
16. Of Iddo, Zechariah; of Ginnethon, Meshullam;
17. Of Abijah, Zichri; of Miniamin, of Moadiah, Piltai:
18. Of Bilgah, Shammua; of Shemaiah, jehonathan;
19. And of Joiarib, Mattenai; of Jedaiah, Uzzi;
20. Of Sallai, Kallai; of Amok, Eber;
21. Of Hilkiah, Hashabiah; of Jedaiah, Nethaneel.
22. The Levites in the days of Eliashib, Joiada, and Johanan, and Jaddua, were recorded chief of the fathers: also the priests, to the reign of Darius the Persian.


Notice also the above phrase "Darius the PERSIAN" (not "the Mede"). It was at the close of the Tanak-OT canon that "the commandment to restore and to rebuild Jerusalem" was given by Ezra. It is the last year of the sojourn of Ezra in this earth, the year is 323BC, a year of Jubilee. The wall was completed and the people were gathered in the city in the seventh month.

Nehemiah 8:2 KJV (Rosh Hashanah - Tishri 1)
2. And Ezra the priest brought the law before the congregation both of men and women, and all that could hear with understanding, upon the first day of the seventh month.

Nehemiah 8:4-9 KJV
4. And Ezra the scribe stood upon a pulpit of wood, which they had made for the purpose; and beside him stood Mattithiah, and Shema, and Anaiah, and Urijah, and Hilkiah, and Maaseiah, on his right hand; and on his left hand, Pedaiah, and Mishael, and Malchiah, and Hashum, and Hashbadana, Zechariah, and Meshullam.
5. And Ezra opened the book in the sight of all the people; (for he was above all the people;) and when he opened it, all the people stood up:
6. And Ezra blessed the L-rd, the great G-d. And all the people answered, Amen, Amen, with lifting up their hands: and they bowed their heads, and worshipped the L-rd with their faces to the ground.
7. Also Jeshua, and Bani, and Sherebiah, Jamin, Akkub, Shabbethai, Hodijah, Maaseiah, Kelita, Azariah, Jozabad, Hanan, Pelaiah, and the Levites, caused the people to understand the law: and the people stood in their place.
8. So they read in the book in the law of G-d distinctly, and gave the sense, and caused them to understand the reading.
9. And Nehemiah, which is the Tirshatha, and Ezra the priest the scribe, and the Levites that taught the people, said unto all the people, This day is holy unto the L-rd your G-d; mourn not, nor weep. For all the people wept, when they heard the words of the law.

Nehemiah 8:13-18 KJV (Preparing for Sukkot-Tabernacles)
13. And on the second day were gathered together the chief of the fathers of all the people, the priests, and the Levites, unto Ezra the scribe, even to understand the words of the law.
14. And they found written in the law which the L-rd had commanded by Moses, that the children of Israel should dwell in booths in the feast of the seventh month:
15. And that they should publish and proclaim in all their cities, and in Jerusalem, saying, Go forth unto the mount, and fetch olive branches, and pine branches, and myrtle branches, and palm branches, and branches of thick trees, to make booths, as it is written.
16. So the people went forth, and brought them, and made themselves booths, every one upon the roof of his house, and in their courts, and in the courts of the house of G-d, and in the street of the water gate, and in the street of the gate of Ephraim.
17. And all the congregation of them that were come again out of the captivity made booths, and sat under the booths: for since the days of Jeshua the son of Nun unto that day had not the children of Israel done so. And there was very great gladness.
18. Also day by day, from the first day unto the last day, he read in the book of the law of G-d. And they kept the feast seven days; and on the eighth day was a solemn assembly, according unto the manner.


This is "the going forth of the commandment to restore and rebuild Jerusalem". What is the holy city Jerusalem according to Scripture? It is mount Zion of above, the city of the living YHWH, the heavenly Jerusalem of above, the mother of us all, (Heb.12:22, Gal.4:26, Rev.21). Who are the children of the holy city?

THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL - THE SAINTS - THE CHILDREN OF ZION
THE GREAT CONGREGATION - EKKLESIA


What is our "Sukkah" that we are commanded to build at Sukkot-Tabernacles? It is OUSELVES, our lives and what things we surround ourselves with, our temporary dwellings or "booths" here on this earth, our tent, our body, mind, and soul, and the place of meeting, (mow`ed) where YHWH and his Son Yeshua will come and sup with us if we open the door of our hearts to him. Thus "the commandment to restore and rebuild Jerusalem" was given by Ezra directly from Torah, (Lev.23:39-44) at Rosh Hashanah in the year of release and Jubilee, 323BC. But the children of Israel had not fully understood it since the days of Joshua the son of Nun. The year 323BC is exactly Seven Generations before Meshiach arrived. This timing is also supported by the Matt.1 genealogy where there are stated to be fourteen generations from the Babylonian captivity to Christ, (half of that being seven generations).

Matthew 1:17 KJV
17. So all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations; and from David until the carrying away into Babylon are fourteen generations; and from the carrying away into Babylon unto Christ are fourteen generations.


323BC - 28AD  =  350 Years - Seven Generations - Seven Jubilee "Weeks"

Luke 4:13-21 KJV (Shortly after Baptism and the Temptation)
13. And when the devil had ended all the temptation, he departed from him for a season.
14. And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about.
15. And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all.
16. And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.
17. And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,
18. The Spirit of the L-rd is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
19. To preach the acceptable year of the L-rd.
20. And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.
21. And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.


The Jubilees continue from 28AD through 1978AD
1573BC-28AD = 32 Jubilees (1600 Years)
28AD-1978AD = 39 Jubilees (Start of the 72nd and 120th was 1978-79)
1978AD-2028AD = 72nd or 120th Jubilee
2028AD - 15 Years taken from the sundial of Ahaz? (2013AD)

28AD-688AD = 660 A/O/D-Dome of the Rock
688AD-1948AD = 1260 Years (The Book of The Revelation of Yeshua)
688AD-1978AD = 1290 Years (Daniel 12:11)
323BC-1978AD = 2300 Years (Daniel 8:14)
Thus began the cleansing of the entire Qodesh ...
Three Days and a Hemi remain ...


1 John 2:18 ASV
18. Little children, it is the last hour: and as ye heard that antichrist cometh, even now have there arisen many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last hour.


Shabbat Shalom!
In Yeshua!!!
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« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2011, 03:46:09 PM »

Ugh!
I thought I knew the word...

*sigh

amazing post!
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« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2011, 10:15:03 PM »

Ugh!
I thought I knew the word...

*sigh

amazing post!

Hi asaracini
While I appreciate your kind words, please allow me to add that YHWH does not need any of us to do anything for him. There was a time when I likened myself to a "minor prophet" and assumed of myself that if I "studied to show myself approved" I might even be found worthy to become one of "two witnesses" doing great things for YHWH, in the name of Yeshua, in these last days. And like so many others now, so full of pride, I thought I knew more than anyone else and was superior in all things unto the works and the wonderful knowledge of Christ. One day in my great swelling pride I became entangled in the tail of a dragon and was cast down to earth without even knowing it. And in my arrogance, like a star having fallen from heaven, I took the key that only I had, (each of us has his own key) and opened up the mouth of a well. The sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of a great iron furnace, even darkened with the locusts of Amalek, even the crowned ones of Edom, Moab, and the prominent sons of Ammon, (every crown about the weight of a talent).

Every man has his appointment and none shall be alone in his appointed times. Yet each appointment, (mow`ed) is separate because we are the tabernacle of the congregation, the tent of meeting, ('ohel mow`ed). Each of us is like an individual sanctuary, a tabernacle-sukkah, residing in the midst of our impurities in the great congregation of YHWH. No man knows the day or the hour of his meeting in the air with Yeshua, but we all who believe will have that meeting in the air and in the clouds of heaven, (see Lev.16, Rev.8:1-4, even the cloud of incense). And he that overcomes shall not be hurt of the second death, and he that endures unto the end shall be saved, but he that seeks to save his life shall loose it, ("Behold, thou shalt see in that day, when thou shalt go into an inner chamber to hide thyself").

So the falling away and the apostasy comes, and the son of perdition will be revealed, the one whom Yeshua will destroy with the brightness of his coming, and every one will know that Christ is he who searches the reigns and HEARTS. Glory be to Christ Yeshua our High Priest, according to the order of Melchizedek, who comes at the appointed time, in the fullness of time, and even as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the whale, so is the Son of man three days and three nights in the HEART (GSN#2588 kardia) of the land: for to atone, and for to cleanse, and for to purge, even as the carcasses are strewn in the broad place of the great city, (spiritually called Sodom and Egypt). For wheresoever the carcass is there shall the eagles be gathered together.

Genesis 15:9-18 KJV
9. And he said unto him, Take me an heifer of three years old, and a she goat of three years old, and a ram of three years old, and a turtledove, and a young pigeon.
10. And he took unto him all these, and divided them in the midst, and laid each piece one against another: but the birds divided he not.
11. And when the fowls came down upon the carcases, Abram drove them away.
12. And when the sun was going down, a deep sleep fell upon Abram; and, lo, an horror (HSN#0367) of great darkness (HSN#2822) fell upon him.
13. And he said unto Abram, Know of a surety that thy seed shall be a stranger in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them; and they shall afflict them four hundred years;
14. And also that nation, whom they shall serve, will I judge: and afterward shall they come out with great substance.
15. And thou shalt go to thy fathers in peace; thou shalt be buried in a good old age.
16. But in the fourth generation they shall come hither again: for the iniquity of the Amorites is not yet full.
17. And it came to pass, that, when the sun went down, and it was dark, behold a smoking furnace, and a burning lamp that passed between those pieces.
18. In the same day the L-rd made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:


Strong's Ref. #0367
Romanized  'eymah
Pronounced ay-maw'
or (shortened) 'emah {ay-maw'}; from the same as HSN0366; fright; concrete, an idol (as a bugbear):
KJV--dread, fear, horror, idol, terrible, terror.

Strong's Ref. #2822
Romanized  choshek
Pronounced kho-shek'
from HSN2821; the dark; hence (literally) darkness; figuratively, misery, destruction, death, ignorance, sorrow, wickedness:
KJV--dark(-ness), night, obscurity.

John 8:56-58 KJV
56. Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
57. Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
58. Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.


Hebrews 10:31, 35-39
31. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living G-d.
35. Cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompence of reward.
36. For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of G-d, ye might receive the promise.
37. "For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry."
38. "Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him."
39. But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.

Zechariah 13:4-9
4. And it shall come to pass in that day, that the prophets shall be ashamed every one of his vision, when he hath prophesied; neither shall they wear a rough garment to deceive:
5. But he shall say: "No prophet am I, a man tilling the soil am I, for one purchased me from my youth!"
6. And one shall say unto him, "What are these wounds between thine hands?" Then he shall answer, "Those with which I was wounded in the house of those who love me."
7. Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith YHWH of armies: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones.
8. And it shall come to pass that in all the land, saith YHWH, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.
9. And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, YHWH 'Elohay!


Peace-Shalom
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« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2011, 08:34:40 AM »

Also, it is highly probable that the name of "Gog" may be a Greek synonym for Agag, (pronounced Ag-awg) and is certainly related to the ten sons of Haman the Agagite. At the time of Ezekiel the Greek language had just begun to make its entrance into the cultures of the Middle East, (Aramaic was the common Gentile language of the nations surrounding Judea of that time). Aside from Rev.20:8 the name Gog may actually be found numerous other places in the NT Greek, (every time we read the word synagogue). This would make complete sense because in other places the Assyrian king of Babylon, (Isa.13&14) and the king of Tyrus (Ezek.28) similarly seek to be seated in the great mount of the congregation, or the synagogue. In other words Gog seeks to take the power and reigns of ruler ship within the sanctuary and great congregation of YHWH, (this is not difficult to see in modern terms of churches, organizations, faith groups, forums, etc., with all of their self proclaimed "mighty ones" taking charge over the flocks). The Greek word for "GATHER" also has the same connotation.

Revelation 16:16 KJV
16. And he gathered (GSN#4863) them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

Revelation 16:16 TUA - Greek Transliteration
16. Kaisunegagen autous eis ton topon ton kaloumenon HebraistiHarmagedon.{*}


Strong's Ref. #4863
Romanized  sunago
Pronounced soon-ag'-o
from GSN4862 and GSN0071; to lead together, i.e. collect or convene; specifically, to entertain (hospitably):
KJV--+ accompany, assemble (selves, together), bestow, come together, gather (selves together, up, together), lead into, resort, take in.

Revelation 3:9 KJV
9. Behold, I will make them of the synagogue (GSN#4864) of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.


Strong's Ref. #4864
Romanized  sunagoge
Pronounced soon-ag-o-gay'
from (the reduplicated form of) GSN4863; an assemblage of persons; specifically, a Jewish "synagogue" (the meeting or the place); by analogy, a Christian church:
KJV--assembly, congregation, synagogue.

Three of the "Isles of the Gentiles" were plucked out by the roots. The Elamite-Medes were scattered by Alexander at the end of the Medo-Persian Empire. The first great horn of Yavan-Javan was then broken, (Alexander the Great) and Tiras may or may not be the equivalent of Tyrus (another Greek wordplay with "Tsowr" throughout Ezk.Ch.26-29?) but if not then Tiras is otherwise not mentioned anywhere else in Scripture, (which simply does not compute).

Ezekiel 38 names Gomer "AND ALL HIS BANDS" …
And the "bands" of Gomer are THREE …


Genesis 10:1-5 KJV
1. Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood.
2. The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras.
3. And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah.
4. And the sons of Javan; Elishah, and Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim.
5. By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.

Ezekiel 38:2-7 KJV
2. Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,
3. And say, Thus saith the L-rd G-d; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:
4. And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:
5. Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:
6. Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.
7. Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them.


Gog is the "guard unto them" all. Thus the number of the names included in Ezekiel 38:2-7 are TEN when we count all three of the "bands" of Gomer, (including Ashkenaz and Riphath which were not mentioned by name in Ezekiel). One might also take note that when Yavan was broken it was divided to the four winds of heaven thus making Yavan the prince of the power of the air. This also is from whence the Gentile ekklesia-congregation of Yeshua is called out from, (all four corners of the four winds of the earth). The same Yavan is therefore the leopard with four heads and four wings on the back of it.

Yavan is divided into four even from the beginning in Gen.10:4 quoted above:
"And the sons of Javan; Elishah, and Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim."

Also the northern tribes of the house of Israel were placed into the cities of the Medes (2Kgs.17:6) when they went into captivity during the Jubilee year of 723-722BC. The same is Elam in the territory of the Medes, and Elam was scattered to the four winds of heaven according to Jer.49:36, thus taking the house of Israel with it into all the nations of the Gentiles and the world.

Ezekiel 38 Gentile nations under Agag-Gog
1) Magog
2) Meshech
3) Tubal
4) Persia (Medai-Medes-Elam scattered to the four winds - Jer.49:36)
5) Ethiopia (Yavan - broken to the four winds - Dan.8:21-22)
6) Libya (Tiras - mortally wounded)
7) Gomer
8) Ashkenaz
9) Riphath
10) Togarmah

11) Tyrus-Leviathan-Assyrian-Bel-Agag-synaGog

Tyrus-Leviathan was mortally war-wounded through Nebuchadnezzar and then Alexander but ascends from the abyss-sea and from "the midst of the seas" in the time of the end, (the "abussos-sea" and the opening of the well or pit of the "abussos-land" are not the same).

Revelation 17:12-14
12. And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
13. These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
14. These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Master of masters, and King of kings: AND THEY THAT ARE WITH HIM ARE CALLED, AND CHOSEN, AND FAITHFUL.

Revelation 12:11 KJV
11. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

Revelation 17:16-18 KJV
16. And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the wh*re, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
17. For G-d hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of G-d shall be fulfilled.
18. And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.


And in the mightiest earthquake of all time, and in the blackest of night of the vision, they killed me because I would not bow the knee to the mighty mirror-man image of myself to save my life. And as for myself, I had become "Daq" (HSN#1851) and I was afflicted the days. So I spent two days catatonic in a hospital bed, unconscious and comatose, and the third I began to revive, and stunned I remained static until the Spirit entered into me and stood me upon my feet. Then I arose, and did the business of the King, and was made third ruler of my kingdom. And I was desolate over the mirror-image of myself as a wicked mighty one, but none understood. And the hard rain of the body of the flesh was given to the fowls of the air and to the conflagration of the flame. And it came to pass that when I understood these things that I wept and mourned over my transgressions and abominations, like the house of Nathan apart, like the house of Shimi apart, and I remembered the words of the Master, and I remembered the story of Lot's wife. And mercy and grace were also poured out in the time that I was melted away, in the fury of the passion of the sprinkling of the blood of the mighty haKohen haGadowl Yeshua, and the consumption decreed overflowed, with no righteousness of my own, but with the righteousness of YHWH and His Mighty Word.

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Isaiah 10:21-25
21. The remnant shall return, even the remnant of Jacob, unto the Mighty 'El.
22. For though thy people Israel be as the sand of the sea, yet a remnant of them shall return: the consumption decreed shall overflow with righteousness.
23. For 'Adonay YHWH of armies shall make a consumption, even determined, in the midst of all the land.
24. Therefore thus saith 'Adonay YHWH of armies, O my people that dwellest in Zion, be not afraid of the Assyrian: he shall smite thee with a rod, and shall lift up his staff against thee, after the manner of Egypt.
25. For yet a very little while, and the indignation shall cease, and mine anger in their destruction.

Isaiah 59:16-21
16. And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him.
17. For he put on righteousness as a breastplate, and an helmet of salvation upon his head; and he put on the garments of vengeance for clothing, and was clad with zeal as a cloke.
18. According to their deeds, accordingly he will repay, fury to his adversaries, recompence to his enemies; to the islands he will repay recompence.
19. So shall they fear the name of YHWH from the west, and his glory from the rising of the sun. When the enemy shall come in like a flood, the Spirit of YHWH shall lift up a standard against him.
20. And the Redeemer shall come to Zion, and unto them that turn from transgression in Jacob, saith YHWH.
21. As for me, this is my covenant with them, saith YHWH; My spirit that is upon thee, and my words which I have put in thy mouth, shall not depart out of thy mouth, nor out of the mouth of thy seed, nor out of the mouth of thy seed's seed, saith YHWH, from henceforth and for ever.

1 Corinthians 6:19 KJV
19. What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of G-d, and ye are not your own?

1 John 5:21 KJV
21. Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.


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Continuing forward with the Jubilee theme: The northern tribes of the house of Israel went into captivity in a year of Jubilee, (723-722BC) if the most commonly accepted date of the captivity is to be accepted as correct, (722BC). Ezek.4 gives the time of the dispersion as 390 years, (even a day for a year). However, most prophecy teachers (mistakenly) add the 40 years of the house of Judah to the 390 years of the house of Israel, yet nowhere are we told to do any such thing. Even Ezekiel is commanded to perform each time allotment separately, (by switching sides and thus dividing them). If we keep them separated then both timeframes fit separate but very precise timelines predicated upon the previous Jubilee information from another post above which is a given year of Jubilee in 573BC based upon the information from Ezek.40:1 and also that of a year of Jubilee being the last year of every fifty year period, (and although the length of the year changed on all ancient calendars 722-701BC, it matters not for counting Jubilee cycles).

The prophesied dispersion of Judah is exact if we understand that the years prophesied in Ezek.4 are MULTIPLIED BY SEVEN. And if the house of Judah fits accordingly then we can be fairly sure that the northern tribes of the house of Israel also fit their respective timeline, (and that indeed 723-722BC is the correct year of the captivity and indeed also another Jubilee year). The Lev.26 "oath of the curse" is written to all Israel, (the house of Judah and the house of Israel were one at the time). The first oath of curse of "seven times" is that the chastisement will be augmented seven times more for the breaking of the covenant and the unrepentant heart, (it is all about the circumcision of the heart).

Leviticus 26:13-18 KJV (Seven Times Chastisement)
13. I am the L-rd your G-d, which brought you forth out of the land of Egypt, that ye should not be their bondmen; and I have broken the bands of your yoke, and made you go upright.
14. But if ye will not hearken unto me, and will not do all these commandments;
15. And if ye shall despise my statutes, or if your soul abhor my judgments, so that ye will not do all my commandments, but that ye break my covenant:
16. I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart: and ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it.
17. And I will set my face against you, and ye shall be slain before your enemies: they that hate you shall reign over you; and ye shall flee when none pursueth you.
18. And if ye will not yet for all this hearken unto me, then I will punish (HSN#3256 yacar) you seven times more (HSN#3254 yacaph) for your sins.


Strong's Ref. #3254 is to add, augment, or to MULTIPLY.

Strong's Ref. #3254
Romanized  yacaph
Pronounced yaw-saf'
a primitive root; to add or augment (often adverbial, to continue to do a thing):
KJV--add, X again, X any more, X cease, X come more, + conceive again, continue, exceed, X further, X gather together, get more, give more-over, X henceforth, increase (more and more), join, X longer (bring, do, make, much, put), X (the, much, yet) more (and more), proceed (further), prolong, put, be [strong-] er, X yet, yield.

Strong's Ref. #3256 is instructive correction (a Father to his children).

Strong's Ref. #3256
Romanized  yacar
Pronounced yaw-sar'
a primitive root; to chastise, literally (with blows) or figuratively (with words); hence, to instruct:
KJV--bind, chasten, chastise, correct, instruct, punish, reform, reprove, sore, teach.

Starting with Judah then Ezekiel is told that the "siege years" of judgment will be 40. This judgment multiplied by 7 is a total of 280 years, (7x40=280). Thus the time of the "siege years" of Judah will be a total of 280 years for their transgressions and unrepentant hearts.

Ezekiel 4:1-6 KJV
1. Thou also, son of man, take thee a tile, and lay it before thee, and pourtray upon it the city, even Jerusalem:
2. And lay siege against it, and build a fort against it, and cast a mount against it; set the camp also against it, and set battering rams against it round about.
3. Moreover take thou unto thee an iron pan, and set it for a wall of iron between thee and the city: and set thy face against it, and it shall be besieged, and thou shalt lay siege against it. This shall be a sign to the house of Israel.
4. Lie thou also upon thy left side, and lay the iniquity of the house of Israel upon it: according to the number of the days that thou shalt lie upon it thou shalt bear their iniquity.
5. For I have laid upon thee the years of their iniquity, according to the number of the days, three hundred and ninety days: so shalt thou bear the iniquity of the house of Israel.
6. And when thou hast accomplished them, lie again on thy right side, and thou shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days: I have appointed thee each day for a year.


We now know that Nebuchadnezzar came through Palestine the first time in 606BC, (there really is no need to argue over a 3-6 month period, within Fall-606 to Spring-605, unless one desires to waste three pages of a thread to end up in the same place where we are at this point). We also know from Scripture that for three years, under Jehoiakim, Judah had rebelled and did not serve the king of Babylon. This rebellion was then from 603-600BC or 602-599BC. Then his son Jehoiachin-Jeconiah, (also Coniah) surrendered and was taken captive to Babylon, (599BC is also supported by the information in Ezek.40:1 of the 25th year of captivity).

2 Kings 24:1 KJV
1. In his days Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon came up, and Jehoiakim became his servant three years: then he turned and rebelled against him.


Jehoiakim reigned 11 years - 2 Kings 23:36.
Jehoiachin reigned 3 months - 2 Kings 24:8.
Zedekiah reigned 11 years - 2 Kings 24:18.
The reign of Zedekiah ended when the city was smitten in 587BC.

605BC-602BC Jehoiakim served Nebuchadnezzar 3 years.
602BC-599BC Rebellion of Jehoiakim - 3 years.
599BC - Jehoachin - 3 months.
598BC-587BC - Zedekiah - 11 years (until the city was smitten).

If we subtract the 3 years of the rebellion under Jehoiakim then the dispersion of Judah is 280 years to the death of Ezra and Alexander the Great in the Jubilee year of 323BC.

606BC-323BC = 283 Years
Subtract 3 Years rebellion of Johoiakim = 280 Years of Ezekiel 4.

So then, with the death of Ezra, in the Jubilee year 323-322BC, the completion and dedication of the Wall, and the giving of the commandment from Torah to restore and to rebuild Jerusalem, (the HOLY CITY people) was exactly 280 years from 603-602BC to 323-322BC prophesied in Ezek.4 for Judah.

The northern kingdom and house of Israel is simpler equation:

7 x 390 = 2730 Years of dispersion to the four winds, (with Elam - Jer.49:36).
At the first 390 years Alexander came through in 333BC and scattered Elam-Media.

723-722BC (Jubilee year and captivity) subtract 390 years = 333BC.
723BC + 2730 Years = 2008AD (no "zero year" in current calendar).

Judah also falls into place with the year 2008AD on the overall timeline from a previous post above. The two timelines reconnect and come into agreement at the year 2008AD. They are rectified and consolidated by the adjustment for the 15 years given to the life of Hezekiah, king of Judah, which were taken from the "sundial of Ahaz" (2Kgs.20:6-11).

323BC-1978AD = 2300 Years
688AD-1948AD = 1260 Years
688AD-1978AD = 1290 Years
688AD-2023AD = 1335 Years
("abridged" to literal 24-hr days?)

2023AD subtract 15 Years (given to Hezekiah) = 2008AD (Sept. 30 Rosh Hashanah)
Sept. 30, 2008 (Trumpets) - May 26, 2012 (Pentecost) = 1335 Days

Please understand I am not date-setting anything, it just is what it is now that 2008 has come and gone and the stock markets of the world collapsed on the very same day, (Sept.29, 2008, Erev Rosh Hashanah, 777pts, 7.0% US NYSE). Seek YHWH in his Word and see what comes in Ezekiel Ch.5 directly after the "siege years" are ended for the house of Israel: the city is divided into three parts… Sound familiar?

Glory to Yeshua!
Shabbat Shalom …
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The following may or may not be for everyone, depending upon whether a person perceives himself or herself as having been grafted into the house of Israel and the olive tree of YHWH or not. However, we can be fairly sure by the Scripture that judgment upon the so-called "heathen" non-believers comes after physical death when Yeshua says to them: "I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity"… The judgment of the unbelieving world comes not in this life, (for the most part) and therefore the judgments and warnings of Scripture are primarily for the saints.

The seven letters to the seven churches are representative not only of seven ekklesia-congregations at the beginning of the age of Meshiach, (and his building of the spiritual temple as prophesied in Zech.6:12-13) but also the seven letters represent seven minor "epochs" of church history, seven stages in the walk of the life of a believer, and even seven modern ekklesia-candlesticks of today. And as with those things, so goes the remainder of the book. In the same way it is likely that, as Yeshua spoke, seven messages came forth prepared for seven different types of person hearing the Word, (after all we are speaking of the Son of YHWH, our High Priest who "sevened" himself in oath, which is what an "oath" means in the Hebrew). The following is one example of why we should not discount our brother or sister which hears something different from the same Word than what we believe we have heard, (and because none of us are given all of it unless and until Yeshua has first prepared such a one for such a thing, absolute power corrupts a man for sure, and we are all different parts of the same body of Christ).

Matthew 16:5-7 KJV
5. And when his disciples were come to the other side, they had forgotten to take bread.
6. Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.
7. And they reasoned among themselves, saying, It is because we have taken no bread.

Mark 8:14-16 KJV
14. Now the disciples had forgotten to take bread, neither had they in the ship with them more than one loaf.
15. And he charged them, saying, Take heed, beware of the leaven of the Pharisees, and of the leaven of Herod.
16. And they reasoned among themselves, saying, It is because we have no bread.


Matthew-Levi hears: "leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees"…
Simon-Peter hears: "leaven of the Pharisees, and of the leaven of Herod"…

Both statements above are obviously correct and yet no other place mentions all three together in this same context, they simply heard two different things. Some unbelieving might even use this as an apparent contradiction. However, what is the likelihood that Yeshua spoke all three at the same time but each witness heard only what was prepared for him according to the Spirit? There are also many other such instances occurring in the four Gospel accounts, (and it is quite possible that there are in fact seven different storylines flowing throughout the four). Therefore the understanding of this possibility is critical to our understanding of the Revelation of Yeshua. More directly then, I am not suggesting that the following is not for every believer, because it is, whether everyone knows it or not, or believes it or not, or is ready for it or not, but some will hear the Word differently than as presented herein, (so then take all seven proper understandings and you will have the greater understanding). However, the one who already knows he is correct never wants to hear the other seven understandings, (which I suppose would make his opinion "the eighth").

The Four "Seven Times Oath of the Curse" - Revelation of Yeshua

Leviticus 26:18 KJV (Seven Times Chastisement)
18. And if ye will not yet for all this hearken unto me, then I will punish you seven times more for your sins.

Leviticus 26:19-22 KJV (Seven Seals - Seven Blows - Makkah)
19. And I will break the pride of your power; and I will make your heaven as iron, and your earth as brass:
20. And your strength shall be spent in vain: for your land shall not yield her increase, neither shall the trees of the land yield their fruits.
21. And if ye walk contrary unto me, and will not hearken unto me; I will bring seven times more plagues (HSN#4347 makkah) upon you according to your sins.
22. I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children, and destroy your cattle, and make you few in number; and your high ways shall be desolate.


Strong's Ref. #4347
Romanized  makkah
Pronounced mak-kaw'
or (masculine) makkeh {muk-keh'}; (plural only) from HSN5221; a blow (in 2Chr.2v10, of the flail); by implication, a wound; figuratively, carnage, also pestilence:
KJV--beaten, blow, plague, slaughter, smote, X sore, stripe, stroke, wound([-ed]).

The Land, Vegetation, and Trees of Leviticus 26:20

Revelation 7:1 KJV
1. And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.


The "Wild Beasts" of Leviticus 26:22

Revelation 6:8 KJV
8. And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

Revelation 13:2 KJV
2. And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

Hosea 13:4-9 KJV
4. Yet I am the L-rd thy G-d from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me.
5. I did know thee in the wilderness, in the land of great drought.
6. According to their pasture, so were they filled; they were filled, and their heart was exalted; therefore have they forgotten me.
7. Therefore I will be unto them as
a lion: as a leopard by the way will I observe them:
8. I will meet them as
a bear that is bereaved of her whelps, and will rend the caul [chest plate] of their heart, and there will I devour them like a lion: the wild beast shall tear them.
9. O Israel, thou hast destroyed thyself; but in me is thine help.


It is all about the true circumcision of the heart performed only by the very finger of YHWH. The word for "caul" in Hosea 13:8 means the chest or breast, (chest plate). The finger of YHWH is his own High Priest residing over the Lev.16 Yom Kippur ceremonies, that is according to the order of Melchizedek, that is Yeshua our High Priest, which High Priest besprinkles our hearts with his own blood in atonement. The heart is the Golden Altar of Incense.

Hammered - Nakah - As the Seven Lamp Candlestick (msg#852996)

Leviticus 26:23-26 KJV (Seven Trumpets - Seven Strikes - Nakah)
23. And if ye will not be reformed by me by these things, but will walk contrary unto me;
24. Then will I also walk contrary unto you, and will punish (HSN#5221 nakah) you yet seven times for your sins.
25. And I will bring a sword upon you, that shall avenge the quarrel of my covenant: and when ye are gathered together within your cities, I will send the pestilence among you; and ye shall be delivered into the hand of the enemy.
26. And when I have broken the staff of your bread, ten women shall bake your bread in one oven, and they shall deliver you your bread again by weight: and ye shall eat, and not be satisfied.
(Ezek.4:9-17)

Strong's Ref. #5221
Romanized  nakah
Pronounced naw-kaw'
a primitive root; to strike (lightly or severely, literally or figuratively):
KJV--beat, cast forth, clap, give [wounds], X go forward, X indeed, kill, make [slaughter], murderer, punish, slaughter, slay(-er, -ing), smite(-r, -ing), strike, be stricken, (give) stripes, X surely, wound.

The Fury of the Passion of the Blood - Sprinkled (Spirit poured out)

Leviticus 26:27-34 KJV (Seven The Fury - Seven Bowls)
27. And if ye will not for all this hearken unto me, but walk contrary unto me;
28. Then I will walk contrary unto you also in fury; and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins.
29. And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.
30. And I will destroy your high places, and cut down your images, and cast your carcases upon the carcases of your idols, and my soul shall abhor you.
31. And I will make your cities waste, and bring your sanctuaries unto desolation, and I will not smell the savour of your sweet odours.
32. And I will bring the land into desolation: and your enemies which dwell therein shall be astonished at it.
33. And I will scatter you among the heathen, and will draw out a sword after you: and your land shall be desolate, and your cities waste.
34. Then shall the land enjoy her sabbaths, as long as it lieth desolate, and ye be in your enemies' land; even then shall the land rest, and enjoy her sabbaths.

Revelation 11:7-8 KJV
7. And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
8. And their dead bodies (GSN#4430 carcass-corpse) shall lie in the street of the great city, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, where also our L-rd was crucified.


Strong's Ref. #4430
Romanized  ptoma
Pronounced pto'-mah
from the alternate of GSN4098; a ruin, i.e. (specifically) lifeless body (corpse, carrion):
KJV--dead body, carcase, corpse.

Matthew 24:27-29 KJV
27. For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
28. For whosesoever the carcase (GSN#4430) is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
29. Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:


WITH (meta) the Three Days and a Hemisu
A Great Voice ~ "Come up hither!"

Seven Thunders - Seven Bowls
True circumcision of the heart - The "Golden Altar" of the heart is Atoned.
3rd Woe - Seventh Trumpet - Time is no more.
And a son is born into the Kingdom!


Hebrews 10:19-22 KJV
19. Having therefore, brethren, boldness to enter into the holiest by the blood of Jesus,
20. By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;
21. And having an high priest over the house of G-d;
22. Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.


YHWH remembers not the Mosaic Covenant because it is, at this point, completely fulfilled in us by Yeshua our High Priest, according to the order of Melchizedek, now presiding over the Lev.16 ceremonies, (and for each in his appointed time). YHWH states rather that he will remember the Covenant with Jacob, and with Isaac, and with ABRAHAM, the Covenant of the Great Congregation-Ekklesia which hearts are circumcised by the very finger of YHWH, (the same "finger" of YHWH which wrote the Decalogue into the tablets of stone).

Leviticus 26:40-45 KJV
40. If they shall confess their iniquity, and the iniquity of their fathers, with their trespass which they trespassed against me, and that also they have walked contrary unto me;
41. And that I also have walked contrary unto them, and have brought them into the land of their enemies; if then their uncircumcised hearts be humbled, and they then accept of the punishment of their iniquity:
42. Then will I remember my covenant with Jacob, and also my covenant with Isaac, and also my covenant with Abraham will I remember; and I will remember the land.
43. The land also shall be left of them, and shall enjoy her sabbaths, while she lieth desolate without them: and they shall accept of the punishment of their iniquity: because, even because they despised my judgments, and because their soul abhorred my statutes.
44. And yet for all that, when they be in the land of their enemies, I will not cast them away, neither will I abhor them, to destroy them utterly, and to break my covenant with them: for I am the L-rd their G-d.
45. But I will for their sakes remember the covenant of their ancestors, whom I brought forth out of the land of Egypt in the sight of the heathen, that I might be their G-d: I am the L-rd.

Leviticus 16:18-19 KJV (Atonement of the Altar of Incense - the Heart)
18. And he shall go out unto the altar that is before the L-rd, and make an atonement for it; and shall take of the blood of the bullock, and of the blood of the goat, and put it upon the horns of the altar round about.
19. And he shall sprinkle of the blood upon it with his finger seven times, and cleanse it, and hallow it from the uncleanness of the children of Israel.

Luke 11:20-26 KJV
20. But if I with the finger of G-d cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of G-d is come upon you.
21. When a strong (mighty one) man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace:
22. But when a stronger than he shall come upon him, and overcome him, he taketh from him all his armour wherein he trusted, and divideth his spoils.
23. He that is not with me is against me: and he that gathereth not with me scattereth.
24. When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none, he saith, I will return unto my house whence I came out.
25. And when he cometh, he findeth it swept and garnished.
26. Then goeth he, and taketh to him seven other spirits more wicked than himself; and they enter in, and dwell there: and the last state of that man is worse than the first.




Jerusalem, O Jerusalem!
Your spoils shall be divided in your midst!!
Mahershalalhashbaz!!!
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A DREAM  ~
26 July 2002 -- 3:00AM PST

There is a place in a night vision dream where there is a mountain valley. The two sides of the valley on either side are cliffs, like in the Grand Canyon, only straight and narrow. In the valley below is where we run. There are sidewalks, roads, byways, and pathways, houses, buildings, and old friends and neighbors all along the way. All of the sidewalks and pathways have certain squares in the walking surface every so often. These squares have a red lightning bolt insignia embedded in the center of them. If you step on one of the squares a red lightning bolt appears glowing in the surface. There are electrical power plants and power lines strewn above from telephone posts and power beams all along the way and they have electricity and the power of the lightning running through them. When you step on the wrong square a skyship comes looking for you from above. And the skyships are evil only evil.

Along the way I stepped on a square and it lit up with a red lightning bolt. As I ran to hide, I ran into a power plant and that was when I noticed that the skyships hovered over the power plants to siphon electrical power from them. They did not see me as they hovered above but the one I saw, (never, never, looking directly at them) was siphoning electrical power for to come and hunt me down, not knowing I was already there hiding in the power plant. After the skyship left to go search for me, I went along my way through the pathways of the mountain valley and came to a familiar house were I knew I had old church friends from a once more gentle time, my old Bible study friends. It was late evening, beginning to get dark, and the sky was reddish orange like sunset but all around. So I knocked on the door, whispering, but sternly and forcefully, let me in! let me in! A stranger came to the door and let me into the house which was now nothing more than the old living room and lounge where we used to have Bible study together. There was a group having study at the time, and most of them I knew were my old friends, but now I recognized none of them. I began to try to tell them what was transpiring outside but they remained speechless and docile. I thought that they were just listening attentively, so I continued to warn them of all that was happening outside along the walkways, pathways, sidewalks, roads, in the parks, the power plant, and in the sky with the skyships. And when had I finished speaking I looked around the circle of my old friends and they were all dumb, speechless, incoherent, and drooling from the mouth, as though they were in a stupor, like zombies, brains turned to mush, like we see happening all around us now, (this night vision dream was July 26, 2002). So I ran out, exiting from the house, and continued my path along the walkways through the mountain-valley toward the end of the mountain-valley chasm. And I noticed that the skyships followed the power lines along the way, siphoning electrical lightning power from the power lines in the sky.

Night fell, and it was the blackest night but the sky was clear, and I came running out of the mountain-valley when I had finally reached the end of the great chasm. It opened up into a huge open arena with a city in the midst of the clearing, like a giant bowl that is miles and miles around with a city at the center. And there were seven suns, like flat discs, stationed on the horizon, refracting very diminished and low intensity hues in the black of the night. All seven suns were in a row lined up next to each other on the skyline. They were not suns but more like discs, circular, but flat looking rather than spherical. Each sun has a slightly different color variation from the others: hues of red, orange, brimstone-sulfur yellow, pale-onyx greens, and greenish-yellow tints. There were several skyships from above chasing me as I came running out of the mountain valley into the colossal city arena. And I saw in the sky, all around the entire span of the horizon, in a giant circle around the city arena, higher in the sky than the seven suns which were all aligned together on one side of the horizon, I saw three rows of smaller orbs, silvery like chrome, flickering in the black night sky above. The orbs were almost invisible because there was not much light for them to reflect except what shone from the city below and the seven opaque dimly lit suns. Then the sky began to light up like a neon green circuit board, like the circuitry patterns in the design of a computer chipboard or motherboard. The whole sky lit up with green circuitries and running lines, and then writing began floating across the sky, in arc lines across the heavens straight above, blinking and flashing their warning signs, as if digitized into the neon green circuitry in white flashing letters. And it was the final Gospel message for the final time.

The whole sky lit up with a green hue from the neon green streamers running everywhere, like a great giant motherboard across the entire sky above. And when this began to unfold I noticed that the three rows of silvery orbs, the three rows stacked one atop the other, all three rows encircling the entire horizon around the city arena at about 45 degrees in the sky, about half way from looking straight up, those shiny silvery orbs were flickering open and close, open and close, open and close, in quick succession like a speed shutter. The orbs had a type of eyelid which opened and closed in rapid succession like the speed shutter of a camera lens. And that was when I understood that these orbs were portals. Portals lined up in three rows all the way around the entire horizon of the great city, and there was no escaping them on foot, or escaping their craft which were coming and going everywhere across the sky. These were the portals from which the evil came through, the evil skyships, they were coming through the silvery chrome orbs every time one of them would open and close its shutter-eyelid. So I ran towards the city to begin trying to warn people, and I saw the people of the city on the rooftops of the skyscrapers, dancing and celebrating. And all of the buildings were very tall, way up into the heights of the sky, like great high towers, even like the tower of Babel would have been. And way up high, upon all of the flat rooftops of the skyscraper buildings, I could see there were lost people with lost souls, dancing on all of the rooftops and celebrating the arrival of the evil only evil. And there was music blasting everywhere like a concert in a huge arena or coliseum, and the music was deafening, so loud they could not hear any warning from anyone even if they wanted to. And the only signs of any life they had left in them was evil only evil.

HE THAT SHALL ENDURE UNTO THE END - THE SAME SHALL BE SAVED
THEN IF ANY MAN SHALL SAY UNTO YOU - BEHOLD HERE OR THERE IS THE CHRIST - BELIEVE IT NOT!!!

As I awoke I began to pray unceasing and sought confirmation from the Master all day about this matter, (because it was so vivid, and powerful, and very frightening) and lo and behold, while watching the news later that same evening, a story came on Fox News about how a UFO had been sighted over Washington DC that very morning, which was reported to have occurred at around the same time that I would have been having the dream. There were many eye-witnesses which saw two military fighter jets giving chase over the DC Capitol area. Then to my horror the announcer exclaimed how amazing it was that this sighting had happened on the 50th anniversary of a previous mass sighting over the DC area in July 1952. I have since discovered that the land of Israel is the "epicenter" of modern UFO activity and deception just as it was in the pre-flood days of Noah when Nephilim descended at the founts of Yar-Dan. The following is the Fox News report which I saw that day. I later retrieved the transcript from the internet.

Transcript - FOX NEWScast
26 JULY 2002 - 7:40PM EDT.
SHEPARD SMITH:
The nighttime skies over the nation's capital alive with blue and orange lights streaking across the sky, so say a lot of panicked people who called in to a radio station, no joke here. American fighter jets in hot pursuit... NORAD confirmed to FOX News that 2 F-16s did scramble, but found nothing! A mystery in the sky above Andrews Air Force Base... that's the one The President uses. Fox report now from Brian Wilson live in our D.C. newsroom. Brian?
BRIAN WILSON: Fair to say, Shepard. A lot more questions than answers at this point, but something strange was going on in the Maryland night sky. Here is what we know; 1:00 a.m. the folks at NORAD saw something they couldn't identify in Maryland airspace, not far from the nation's capitol. The track it was taking caused them some concern so they scrambled 2 DC Air National Guard jets to check things out. Now, DC Air National Guard confirms that 2 F-16s from the 113th Wing were vectored to intercept whatever it was that NORAD was worried about. However, when the pilots got where they were supposed to be, they said they didn't see anything when they arrived on the scene.
Now the folks at NORAD would not provide details about the exact location, direction or speed of the object they were tracking. Now independently, a number of folks who live in Waldorf, Maryland, which is not far from Andrews Air Force Base and not far from the nation's capitol, called local radio station WTOP to say that about the same [time] they witnessed a fast moving, bright blue light in the sky. They go on to claim that the light was being chased by military jets. One witness tells the radio station that the jets were right on its tail. Quote: "as the thing would move, a jet was right behind it..." end of quote. An investigation is underway. But National Guard spokesman Captain Sheldon Smith says, and this is another quote, "We don't have any information about funny lights." By the way, this just happens to be the 50th anniversary of a series of still-unexplained sightings over the nation's capitol, a story that made banner-headline news in 1952. Shepard, we'll continue to watch for this.
SHEPARD SMITH: And now it can be told... Brian Wilson, live in Washington.
END TRANSCRIPT


This night vision dream of July 2002 was in body. Awakening I was curled up in a fetal position and incapable of movement for a several, both fists clenched so tightly that it took a several to get them to open, and my arms were crossed and locked together against my chest as though a high voltage current had been circuiting through me. But the second and more recent one, (where I was terribly humbled) was not a dream: Harpagenta, windows of tritou, one day known to YHWH, inside or outside I know not, (YHWH knows). However, no one is allowed inside the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony or tabernacle of the congregation until "IT IS DONE!"

The dream had I written down earlier that morning and after I saw the report on the news, that very same evening, I knew it was confirmation and so I mailed the dream away to my mother and my brothers. And it came to pass that a Warrior Friend of the King called back at me from the Negev, (stationed thereby is B'er-Lachay-Ro'iy) even Beer Sheva, and Nachalat Yeshua!

Exodus 23:20-25
20. Behold, I send a mal'ak before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared.
21. Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for My name is in him.
22. But if thou shalt indeed obey his voice, and do all that I speak; then I will be an enemy unto thine enemies, and an adversary unto thine adversaries.
23. For My mal'ak shall go before thee, and bring thee in unto the Amorites, and the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Canaanites, and the Hivites, and the Jebusites: and I will cut them off.
24. Thou shalt not bow down to their gods, nor serve them, nor do after their works: but thou shalt utterly overthrow them, and quite break down their images.
25. And ye shall serve YHWH 'Eloheykem, and He shall bless thy bread, and thy water; and I will take sickness away from the midst of thee.


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After the circumcision we journeyed from the hill of the foreskins, (for in those forty Jubilees the terrible mighty ones had died off in the wilderness and the children which came of age in the wilderness were not yet circumcised). And it came to pass that when I was appointed third ruler of my kingdom, I approached and entered into the court, and the King was seated, and He lowered the golden scepter. So I prayed, made my confession, and said, O King of kings, the great and wonderful YHWH, keeping the covenant and mercy to them that love him, and to them that keep his commandments, keeping your holy covenant of mercy and grace with the innumerable children of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob forever: what is to be of a third ruler such as this one? What are the duties? What shall this one do, your servant, O Adoni? For here am I, and you have made your people to be kings and priests, and yet surely am I no king. And the King answered by the mighty power of the right hand of the Salvation of his Word, and said:

"Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men. Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid. When it is evening, ye say, It will be fair weather: for the sky is red. And in the morning: foul weather today: for the sky is red and threatening. Can ye discern the face of the sky and yet not the shades of My commands? My cities are spread abroad; overflowing through goodness: And YHWH has again comforted Zion! And has again chosen Jerusalem! And I, even I, am thy part and thine inheritance!"

So I came forth from the midst of the court before the King, and with joy in my heart, because the words are life as marrow to the bones. And as I came forth, I lifted up my eyes, and the outer court had been ejected out, and was thrust outward, and away from any view. And the seven suns were brilliantly lighted, each one shining as the light of the sun, so bright were they that I could no longer perceive them as the seven suns distinctly, neither was there need for the light of the former sun. And Jews with Gentiles walked together as brethren, in the walkways, the pathways, and the highways of the city. And the city overflowed outward as far as could be seen: even it filled all of the earth in the continuing suburbs thereof.

So I went to the books, and I looked, and Behold, abiding unwalled suburbs of the cities of the priests: each abiding suburb two thousand cubits to a quarter and squared round about the four quarters of their circuits. FORTY TWO cities of the priests with all their suburbs, and the forty two continued from a new moon to another: month to month in all their sojourns and their goings, even month to month in all the foliage of their trees: month to month in all the fruits of all their goods, even month to month with all their beasts in all their suburbs!

Numbers 18:19-23 KJV
19. All the heave offerings of the holy things, which the children of Israel offer unto the L-rd, have I given thee, and thy sons and thy daughters with thee, by a statute for ever: it is a covenant of salt for ever before the L-rd unto thee and to thy seed with thee.
20. And the L-rd spake unto Aaron, Thou shalt have no inheritance in their land, neither shalt thou have any part among them: I am thy part and thine inheritance among the children of Israel.
21. And, behold, I have given the children of Levi all the tenth in Israel for an inheritance, for their service which they serve, even the service of the tabernacle of the congregation.
22. Neither must the children of Israel henceforth come nigh the tabernacle of the congregation, lest they bear sin, and die.
23. But the Levites shall do the service of the tabernacle of the congregation, and they shall bear their iniquity: it shall be a statute for ever throughout your generations, that among the children of Israel they have no inheritance.

Numbers 35:1-6 KJV
1. And the L-rd spake unto Moses in the plains of Moab by Jordan near Jericho, saying,
2. Command the children of Israel, that they give unto the Levites of the inheritance of their possession cities to dwell in; and ye shall give also unto the Levites suburbs for the cities round about them.
3. And the cities shall they have to dwell in; and the suburbs of them shall be for their cattle, and for their goods, and for all their beasts.
4. And the suburbs of the cities, which ye shall give unto the Levites, shall reach from the wall of the city and outward a thousand cubits round about.
5. And ye shall measure from without the city on the east side two thousand cubits, and on the south side two thousand cubits, and on the west side two thousand cubits, and on the north side two thousand cubits; and the city shall be in the midst: this shall be to them the suburbs of the cities.
6. And among the cities which ye shall give unto the Levites there shall be six cities for refuge, which ye shall appoint for the manslayer, that he may flee thither: and to them ye shall add forty and two cities.

Numbers 35:5-6 YGB (Young's Bible)
5. And ye have measured from the outside of the city, the east quarter, two thousand by the cubit, and the south quarter, two thousand by the cubit, and the west quarter, two thousand by the cubit, and the north quarter, two thousand by the cubit; and the city [is] in the midst; this is to them the suburbs of the cities.
6. 'And the cities which ye give to the Levites [are] the six cities of refuge, which ye give for the fleeing thither of the man-slayer, and besides them ye give forty and two cities;

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Exodus 19:5-6 KJV
5. Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:
6. And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.

1 Peter 2:9-10 KJV
9. But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light;
10. Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of G-d: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.

Hebrews 13:12-16 KJV
12. Wherefore Jesus also, that he might sanctify the people with his own blood, suffered without the gate.
13. Let us go forth therefore unto him without the camp, bearing his reproach.
14. For here have we no continuing city, but we seek one to come. (imminent)
15. By him therefore let us offer the sacrifice of praise to G-d continually, that is, the fruit of our lips giving thanks to his name.
16. But to do good and to communicate forget not: for with such sacrifices G-d is well pleased.

Hebrews 13:14 LIT (Literal Bible w/vertical Strong's)
14.
   |3756| not
   |1063| Because
   |2192| we have
   |5602| here
   |3306| a continuing
   |4172| city,
   |0235| but
   |3588| the
   |9999| {one}
   |3195| imminent
   |1934| we seek.

Hebrews 12:22-29 KJV
22. But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living G-d, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
23. To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to G-d the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
24. And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.
25. See that ye refuse not him that speaketh. For if they escaped not who refused him that spake on earth, much more shall not we escape, if we turn away from him that speaketh from heaven:
26. Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven.
27. And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain.
28. Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve G-d acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
29. For our G-d is a consuming fire.

Matthew 13:40-43 KJV
40. As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
41. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
42. And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
43. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.


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Also, I understood by the Word that when "in a journey afar off" (as most of us are) the children of Israel are to keep the Passover in the second month, for such is the provision appointed in the Word of Torah, (and Torah and prophecy cannot be separated).

Numbers 9:9-11 KJV
9. And the L-rd spake unto Moses, saying,
10. Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If any man of you or of your posterity shall be unclean by reason of a dead body, or be in a journey afar off, yet he shall keep the passover unto the L-rd.
11. The fourteenth day of the second month at even they shall keep it, and eat it with unleavened bread and bitter herbs.


So also, as in the days of Hezekiah when the Temple was cleansed, sanctified, and rededicated, yet not all of the children of Israel were properly prepared or themselves sanctified: YHWH our Elohiym was, and is, and will be merciful, and He healed all of them which had willing hearts. And they kept the Passover the fourteenth day of the second month at evening, and the midst of the second month celebration of the second Feast of Unleavened Bread is 17 Iyyar, (2/17).

2 Chronicles 29:1-11 KJV
1. Hezekiah began to reign when he was five and twenty years old, and he reigned nine and twenty years in Jerusalem. And his mother's name was Abijah, the daughter of Zechariah.
2. And he did that which was right in the sight of the L-rd, according to all that David his father had done.
3. He in the first year of his reign, in the first month, opened the doors of the house of the L-rd, and repaired them.
4. And he brought in the priests and the Levites, and gathered them together into the east street,
5. And said unto them, Hear me, ye Levites, sanctify now yourselves, and sanctify the house of the L-rd G-d of your fathers, and carry forth the filthiness out of the holy place.
6. For our fathers have trespassed, and done that which was evil in the eyes of the L-rd our G-d, and have forsaken him, and have turned away their faces from the habitation of the L-rd, and turned their backs.
7. Also they have shut up the doors of the porch, and put out the lamps, and have not burned incense nor offered burnt offerings in the holy place unto the G-d of Israel.
8. Wherefore the wrath of the L-rd was upon Judah and Jerusalem, and he hath delivered them to trouble, to astonishment, and to hissing, as ye see with your eyes.
9. For, lo, our fathers have fallen by the sword, and our sons and our daughters and our wives are in captivity for this.
10. Now it is in mine heart to make a covenant with the L-rd G-d of Israel, that his fierce wrath may turn away from us.
11. My sons, be not now negligent: for the L-rd hath chosen you to stand before him, to serve him, and that ye should minister unto him, and burn incense.

2 Chronicles 29:35-36 KJV
35. And also the burnt offerings were in abundance, with the fat of the peace offerings, and the drink offerings for every burnt offering. So the service of the house of the L-rd was set in order.
36. And Hezekiah rejoiced, and all the people, that G-d had prepared the people: for the thing was done suddenly.

2 Chronicles 30:1-3 KJV
1. And Hezekiah sent to all Israel and Judah, and wrote letters also to Ephraim and Manasseh, that they should come to the house of the L-rd at Jerusalem, to keep the passover unto the L-rd G-d of Israel.
2. For the king had taken counsel, and his princes, and all the congregation in Jerusalem, to keep the passover in the second month.
3. For they could not keep it at that time, because the priests had not sanctified themselves sufficiently, neither had the people gathered themselves together to Jerusalem.

2 Chronicles 30:10-20 KJV
10. So the posts passed from city to city through the country of Ephraim and Manasseh even unto Zebulun: but they laughed them to scorn, and mocked them.
11. Nevertheless divers of Asher and Manasseh and of Zebulun humbled themselves, and came to Jerusalem.
12. Also in Judah the hand of G-d was to give them one heart to do the commandment of the king and of the princes, by the word of the L-rd.
13. And there assembled at Jerusalem much people to keep the feast of unleavened bread in the second month, a very great congregation.
14. And they arose and took away the altars that were in Jerusalem, and all the altars for incense took they away, and cast them into the brook Kidron.
15. Then they killed the passover on the fourteenth day of the second month: and the priests and the Levites were ashamed, and sanctified themselves, and brought in the burnt offerings into the house of the L-rd.
16. And they stood in their place after their manner, according to the law of Moses the man of G-d: the priests sprinkled the blood, which they received of the hand of the Levites.
17. For there were many in the congregation that were not sanctified: therefore the Levites had the charge of the killing of the passovers for every one that was not clean, to sanctify them unto the L-rd.
18. For a multitude of the people, even many of Ephraim, and Manasseh, Issachar, and Zebulun, had not cleansed themselves, yet did they eat the passover otherwise than it was written. But Hezekiah prayed for them, saying, The good L-rd pardon every one
19. That prepareth his heart to seek G-d, the L-rd G-d of his fathers, though he be not cleansed according to the purification of the sanctuary.
20. And the L-rd hearkened to Hezekiah, and healed the people.


The cleansing of the entire house consisting of the Holy of Holies, the Sanctuary-Holy Place, and finally the Porch, (with the two witnesses represented by the two pillars "Boaz" and "Yachin" which stand continually before YHWH) all together represent "a Time, Times, and half a Time" ("mow`ed, mow`diym, chetsiy" Dan.12:7) or "an appointment, appointments (plural), and the half". The Sanctuary-Holy Place is the same Tabernacle of Meeting, or Tabernacle of the Congregation, ("ohel mow`ed" of Lev.16:16 and the Yom Kippur Atonement Ceremonies). The Wilderness Tabernacle and the Solomon (First) Temple with its 20x10 Porch dimensions portray a "Time, Times, and a Half" in their measurements and layouts. Thus the "shades of the commandments" are also the "signs of the times".

The Solomon Temple ~ Body of the Saints


The second month Passover-Unleavened Bread dates of 2/14-2/21 Hebrew Calendar, (and the midst of the Feast which is 2/17) portend the Genesis-Revelation "Flood Dates" that so many seem lately to have become entertained and enamoured about, (i.e. the ongoing 21May2011 prognostications) because they do not care to understand what was actually said, and so they take what parts they like from what was said, (mainly the dates) and smother the truth with a heaping continuous supply of their own vainglory: feigning a closeness to YHWH which they exhibit nowhere else in their prognostications.

Genesis 7:11 KJV
11. In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

Genesis 7:24 KJV
24. And the waters prevailed upon the earth an hundred and fifty days.

Genesis 8:3-4 KJV
3. And the waters returned from off the earth continually: and after the end of the hundred and fifty days the waters were abated.
4. And the ark rested in the seventh month, on the seventeenth day of the month, upon the mountains of Ararat.


The Revelation 9 "Flood" is the same Five Months or 150 Days of Noah, (typologically 2/17-7/17). The time runs from the MIDST of the second Passover Feast of Unleavened Bread of the second month, (2/17 or 17 Iyyar) to the MIDST of the Feast of Sukkot-Tabernacles, (7/17 or 17 Tishri) and the dates run their course year by year, every year. However, Yeshua already fulfilled the final half of Sukkot-Tabernacles (Jn.Ch.7 quoted previously herein) and therefore what remains is the first half of the Week, the first three days of Sukkot-Tabernacles, (literal days) and a Hemi. However, each in his appointed time, and none shall be alone in his appointed times, and it is appointed unto men once to die and then the judgment, and each appointment is by lot, month in, month out.

Daniel 12:13 KJV
13. But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot (HSN#1486) at the end of the days.


Strong's Ref. #1486
Romanized  gowral
Pronounced go-rawl'
or (shortened) goral {go-ral'}; from an unused root meaning to be rough (as stone); properly, a pebble, i.e. a lot (small stones being used for that purpose); figuratively, a portion or destiny (as if determined by lot):
KJV--lot.

Zechariah 14:1 KJV
1. Behold, the day of the L-rd cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided (HSN#2505) in the midst of thee.


Strong's Ref. #2505
Romanized  chalaq
Pronounced khaw-lak'
a primitive root; to be smooth (figuratively); by implication (as smooth stones were used for lots) to apportion or separate:
KJV--deal, distribute, divide, flatter, give, (have, im-)part(-ner), take away a portion, receive, separate self, (be) smooth(-er).

By lot then, (because we have free will) when the enemy comes in like a flood, even a "five month" flood: And the circumcision-atoning-cleansing of a son born into the kingdom is exacted by the High Priest Yeshua, even the very Finger of YHWH, and it so happens not according to the Genesis Revelation flood dates on the Hebrew calendar, but rather say for instance, it occurs in the eighth month of the Hebrew Calendar: Then the lot of the servitude of the newly born son, born in the eighth month, would fall under the deputyship of Sibbecai the Hushathite, (the same is Sibbechai which slew Sippai one of the sons of the Rapha at the battle of Gob or Gezer). Everything is cyclical, month to month, year in year out, and YHWH of armies has sent His Son Yeshua, the Prince of princes, haSar-sariym, the Captain of the host, to lead us into our place in the Kingdom by the Holy Ghost in his Word.

1 Chronicles 27:1-15 KJV
1. Now the children of Israel after their number, to wit, the chief fathers and captains of thousands and hundreds, and their officers that served the king in any matter of the courses, which came in and went out month by month throughout all the months of the year, of every course were twenty and four thousand.
2. Over the first course for the first month was Jashobeam the son of Zabdiel: and in his course were twenty and four thousand.
3. Of the children of Perez was the chief of all the captains of the host for the first month.
4. And over the course of the second month was Dodai an Ahohite, and of his course was Mikloth also the ruler: in his course likewise were twenty and four thousand.
5. The third captain of the host for the third month was Benaiah the son of Jehoiada, a chief priest: and in his course were twenty and four thousand.
6. This is that Benaiah, who was mighty among the thirty, and above the thirty: and in his course was Ammizabad his son.
7. The fourth captain for the fourth month was Asahel the brother of Joab, and Zebadiah his son after him: and in his course were twenty and four thousand.
8. The fifth captain for the fifth month was Shamhuth the Izrahite: and in his course were twenty and four thousand.
9. The sixth captain for the sixth month was Ira the son of Ikkesh the Tekoite: and in his course were twenty and four thousand.
10. The seventh captain for the seventh month was Helez the Pelonite, of the children of Ephraim: and in his course were twenty and four thousand.
11. The eighth captain for the eighth month was Sibbecai the Hushathite, of the Zarhites: and in his course were twenty and four thousand.
12. The ninth Captain for the ninth month was Abiezer the Anetothite, of the Benjamites: and in his course were twenty and four thousand.
13. The tenth captain for the tenth month was Maharai the Netophathite, of the Zarhites: and in his course were twenty and four thousand.
14. The eleventh captain for the eleventh month was Benaiah the Pirathonite, of the children of Ephraim: and in his course were twenty and four thousand.
15. The twelfth captain for the twelfth month was Heldai the Netophathite, of Othniel: and in his course were twenty and four thousand.

2 Timothy 3:15-17 KJV
15. And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16. All scripture is given by inspiration of G-d, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17. That the man of G-d may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.


No more a "prophet" am I … A tiller of the soil am I …
For the Son of Man purchased me from my youth!


Daniel 10:5-6 KJV
5. Then I lifted up mine eyes, and looked, and behold a certain man clothed in linen, whose loins were girded with fine gold of Uphaz:
6. His body also was like the Beryl, and his face as the appearance of lightning, and his eyes as lamps of fire, and his arms and his feet like in colour to polished brass, and the voice of his words like the voice of a multitude.


Revelation 1:13-16 KJV
13. And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.
14. His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
15. And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.
16. And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp twoedged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.


Daniel 12:7 KJV
7. And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

Revelation 10:1-7 KJV
1. And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a RAINBOW was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire:
2. And he had in his hand a little book open:
and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth,
3. And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices.
4. And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not.
5. And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his [right] hand to heaven,
6. And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:
7. But in the days [days plural] of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of G-d should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.


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