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« Reply #15 on: June 17, 2009, 01:17:33 PM »

A prominent philosopher, who shall remain nameless for now, posited that the cause of all unhappiness in the world was this:

That people desired things which were incompatible with each other.

What say ye?  Does it pass the Biblical test?
But the question is begged....what is the cause of desiring incompatible things?
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« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2009, 04:53:45 PM »

A prominent philosopher, who shall remain nameless for now, posited that the cause of all unhappiness in the world was this:

That people desired things which were incompatible with each other.

What say ye?  Does it pass the Biblical test?
But the question is begged....what is the cause of desiring incompatible things?

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« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2009, 02:20:34 AM »

A prominent philosopher, who shall remain nameless for now, posited that the cause of all unhappiness in the world was this:

That people desired things which were incompatible with each other.

What say ye?  Does it pass the Biblical test?
But the question is begged....what is the cause of desiring incompatible things?
Natural desires...for food drink companionship sex, etc.
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« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2009, 09:15:56 AM »

A prominent philosopher, who shall remain nameless for now, posited that the cause of all unhappiness in the world was this:

That people desired things which were incompatible with each other.

What say ye?  Does it pass the Biblical test?
But the question is begged....what is the cause of desiring incompatible things?
Natural desires...for food drink companionship sex, etc.
Hi WS,

Natural desires of themselves can't be a cause for desiring incompatible things, can they?  Assuming Adam and Eve existed in a state of perfection, this perfection suggests that each choice before the fall was perfect in every way....hence, all natural desires would in perfection of the intellect be directed only to the perfection of each desire.  Something must stimulate natural desires in such a way that they become unnatural or corrupt.

The question is still begged--the cause of desiring incompatible things must first be resolved before the question in the OP can be answered, imo.
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« Reply #19 on: August 24, 2009, 12:51:04 PM »

The cause of all suffering is that people want things to be different than they are.  Accept life in it's totality; don't pick and choose.
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« Reply #20 on: August 27, 2009, 08:38:13 PM »

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The cause of all suffering is that people want things to be different than they are.  Accept life in it's totality; don't pick and choose.
I think you miss my point.  Reference perfection again: if every desire, thought, sensation, feeling, emotion and judgment were made from a wholly perfect state, no one would want things to be different.  In a state of perfection, why would we want anything to be different?  What's better than perfect?  How does one improve on perfection?  The philosopher who noted that people desired things that were incompatible begs the same question.  If we assume from Scripture that Adam and Eve operated in perfection in all inner reality (spirit, body, mind of the individual) interacting with a perfect external reality, there exists no room for "incompatible" things.  Perfection has no room for incompatibility; incompatibility references imperfection.

What did Adam stain reality with when he ate the fruit that humans began desiring incompatible things?  The desire of incompatible things requires a pathology, one that corrupts the perfection of desire such that incompatible things become appealing.

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« Reply #21 on: August 27, 2009, 10:56:39 PM »

The cause of all suffering is that people want things to be different than they are.  Accept life in it's totality; don't pick and choose.
Your sentence does not ring true to me...example:

I want to be skinnier. I accept that. I choose to be skinnier.  I choose to change... I want things to be different.

I am picking to change and choosing to be different than I am and yet there is no suffering.

My suffering is being here and now fat.

I would say that suffering is in staying the same and accepting my fatness ---choosing, picking  and wanting to be different makes me happy because there will be change from what is.

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